2013 Ford 6.7 with 5 inch Flo-Pro Exhaust and H&S Tuner

[@TheBCSledder]

The turbo sounds amazing.

[@msr0889]

One of the better exhaust videos. Thanks!

[@sonconmas]

Love the sound of these proper diesel V8s, most of the trucks here in the UK are Euro-spec with 2.2 diesels, but the 3.2D is pretty common in the new Ford Ranger

[@subman719]

Just a side note... the AERO Turbine muffler ONLY works at full RPM on this large of an exhaust with a 6.7 Diesel! The DRONE sound is STILL there at low RPM's (1300 to 1700 rpm) and the exhaust is NOTICEABLY LOUDER and throatier! The backlash "howl" sound is still there too, just not as pronounced as with the former 4 inch exhaust. The muffler is only quieting the upper RPM range above 2000 which helps keep it from being obnoxiously loud during rural driving. All tuner deletes are still in effect.

[@stvynix3687]

These diesel's are so much quieter... when I start my 7.3, it's so loud... we've come a long way.I love Ford, but I'll keep my old rig.

[@nathancarter9136]

You'll be keeping that 7.3 forever. They just go and go and go. New diesels have crazy power and are really quiet but they just don't run right for long.

[@stvynix3687]

I agree Nathan... you're awesome! The new one's are too complicated!

[@josemigueljr]

stvynix my respect to the 7.3s they are serious work beast they will go on forever. we have two and I'd like to get a newer truck but I want something that I can run and keep for a long time.

[@stvynix3687]

iRepFlorida93 Thank you my friend! You're quite attractive as well ;-)

[@nathanblair3235]

I think the 4" sounded better to be honest.

[@subman719]

Nathan Blair ... I agree... 4” had slightly better performance too with stock turbo. Oh well... not putting it back on. LOL

[@nathanblair3235]

subman719 Good to know. I think I may end up going with the 4" myself. What tunes are you running?

[@subman719]

I have a custom delete tune by Ryan Milliken who owns Hardway Performance. He wrote it back when he was working with H&S. He no longer does Powerstroke tunes... just Cummins now. I have the last of a dead breed but you can find other companies out there that will do a custom tune for you. Just make sure they do it on a dyno and it's NOT a "smoke" or "lope" tune!

[@nathanblair3235]

Thanks! I am planning to go with PPEI tunes and EZ LYNK with SOTF. I will probably run a tow tune most of the time. Also planning on the Sinister EGR delete with Flo Pro 4" exhaust and 5" No limit stage 2 intake. I think that's all my wife will let me buy, since my 38's aren't cheap! Lol

[@subman719]

Did you look at the No Limit EGR delete kit? They have a bypass plate for the coolant which works better than Sinister.

[@altairsouza7014]

Excellent!!! the best sound!!! On day this dream will be possible in Brazil....

[@subman719]

RHCP9181: Yes, you DO have to run a tuner with a special tune that overrides the OEM programming which turns off all the malfunction indicators and allows the truck to run with the emissions system deleted. The other obstacle is getting a custom tune that is CLEAN! Most custom tunes just turn up fuel levels and cause you to "ROLL COAL" which will get you a very serious fine now, thanks to all the A$$Holes that think it's "cool" to roll coal. I have a "CLEAN TUNE" that barely puffs any black smoke when accelerating... that is what you want! A clean tune! I haven't had a single problem with raising awareness to my deleted truck. I will say however, that I don't think you'll be able to get away with a delete on your truck in California... I think the laws are too stringent and may prevent you from getting inspected. I do not have to have my truck inspected in my state because of my weight class and I'm non-commercial so I'm exempt.

[@RHCP9181]

subman719 Sorry for late response, just saw the reply. So would the mini maxx be considered a clean tune and will it delete the cat and dpf filter? The plan is to probably either find a "smog guy" or just put the filter and cat back on and run it stock for when I have to smog it. Also, what delete kit do you recommend?

[@subman719]

RHCP9181 ... Your best bet is to find a "smog guy" because swapping everything in and out every year is a brutal way to go! You not only have the time of swapping out the exhaust system but you also have to re-flash the PCM back to stock then re-flash back to the custom tune once you put the aftermarket stuff back on! You'll easily kill an entire day swapping stuff back and forth. The Mini Maxx itself from H&S is a clean tune because it has to be compatible with the DPF system to not clog it up. In order to do the "deletes" you must have the MCC unlock code and custom tune to unlock and override the Mini Maxx's emissions compliant tune... that's where you need to be selective as to "who" writes the custom tune! Most shops/guys just go in and turn up fuel values which creates a "dirty tune"... you need to find a shop that turns up the values proportional to rpm and load which is usually done on a dyno. Due to the OEM turbo and fuel limitations, you can only get an honest 25hp gain with the deletes versus just using the Mini Maxx out of box with DPF and EGR intact. The main advantage to doing the deletes is if you want to go beyond the factory turbo and fuel limits by installing upgraded turbo and fuel system as I plan on doing. My advice is to ask yourself what is most important to you... power increase or cool sound. If it's mainly power then just go with the out of box Mini Maxx and save yourself all the headaches. If you really want the cool sound then be prepared for the added (doubled) expense of doing the deletes and possibility of getting busted by California's stringent laws. Yes, lot's of people out there are running deleted and rolling coal but their fun will probably get cut short and be expensive. NJ has imposed a $5000 "rolling coal" fine recently so I'm EXTREMELY careful as to how, when and where I hit the throttle! I put links in the description above to all the parts I used for both the 4" and 5" exhausts and other parts like tuner, intake and EGR delete. Hope this helps and let me know what you decide to do. I'll help any way I can.

[@RHCP9181]

subman719 I really appreciate all the info, its definitely helpful. I'd like to leave California as soon as I can, except I have to finish school. Smog is every 2 years I think in California, but non the less, it definitely would be a pain in the ass to put the filter back on and off and put pcm to stock. My neighbor does that on his '08 450. His only smokes if he has a decent load, which most of the time is his 18K trailer. I know a few buddies that would sign off smog for me so. Thanks again for the info. I'll look for those links and check out the kits.

[@bobbymorris3350]

subman719 it sounds like my 6.0 with stock everything

[@HogHunter3001]

THAT TRUCK IS AMAZING!!!!

[@subman719]

Thank you!

[@OkayishOffroad]

Do you think you would be able to film a in cab driving on the street video? I love your truck by the way :) hahaha

[@subman719]

Thanks... I'll work on doing an in cab video in the near future!

[@subman719]

Just want to give an update... I will have to wait until the warmer weather and roads are cleared of snow before I do a full inside and out ride-along video. Sorry for the delay.

[@OkayishOffroad]

Its okay! I will be just patiently waiting over here in my corner for that video to come out :)

[@mattleonard5268]

i like the sound of the new exhaust way more! and the tip looks great!

[@coolyundo]

sounds awesome

[@Firelord360]

I wouldnt mind have a truck like this but of course I would have to buy used since they cost so much one day though

[@shanetaylor7581]

Firelord360 you ever get one? I finally did after 20yrs of wanting a diesel

[@subman719]

It's a: FLO-PRO Rolled Angle Cut Bolt On Exhaust Tip Stainless Steel Inlet: 5" Outlet: 6" Length: 15" Fits: Universal Mfg Part # 9015RAB Our Part # FLO9015RAB www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/flo-pro/stainless-steel-rolled-angle-bolt-on-exhaust-tips.htm?popup=n&gclid=Cj0KEQjw6O-9BRDjhYXH2bOb8Z4BEiQAWRdukwduVqLXGiuZgyVgQNd3A-SJJO34oSNqvQGecim_vJoaAtEt8P8HAQ Hope this helps!

[@Jake-tt6mk]

Sporting a chub, I raise my Whiskey to you sir!

[@subman719]

Jake1970 .... LOL... thanks!

[@Dfour]

Nice clip, was this with the oem turbo or updated 2015 turbo?

[@subman719]

Thanks, this was with the OEM turbo at the time.

[@hutchinson54]

Fellow submariner here. Not much of a Ford guy, but that’s a beautiful truck you got there. Sounds awesome. YN2(SS) 1988-1998 USS TOPEKA (SSN 754) USS WILL ROGERS (SSBN 659)(GOLD) USS FLORIDA (SSBN 728)(GOLD)

[@subman719]

@hutchinson54 Thank you for your service and compliment! 👍🇺🇸⚓️

[@hutchinson54]

@@subman719 Likewise ☺️

[@1BigMistakee]

most beautiful sounding fucking trucks ever! sounds like the devil himself is resurrecting!

[@thebigbc420]

In this video, at the 6:35 mark, right after you start it up, the hiss sounds abruptly comes and then immediately goes away. My question with this setup is this, did that hissing sound basically disappear with this muffler? I have a 5" DP back exhaust on my '16 SD and the hissing sound is EXTREMELY loud, particularly at low throttle, such as when driving in a parking lot.

[@subman719]

The hissing sound didn't really go away... it just got quieter with the muffler. He hissing sound comes and goes as the vanes in the turbo change to help warm up the engine. Hope this helps.

[@towstrapstoiletseats7231]

6:28

[@josemarin4700]

Finally a good comparison video. Thanks. How loud is the cab noise?

[@subman719]

Depends on the RPM range... at idle and above 1900 rpm you barely notice the exhaust... between 1300 and 1700 rpm, the drone is so deep that you can't hear yourself think in the cab! The Aero muffler really works well above 1900 rpm up to full throttle keeping the loudness in check. Below 1900, there isn't enough flow out of the 6.7 liters for a 5 inch exhaust to create enough back pressure for the muffler to work. The 4 inch exhaust was a bit quieter at the lower rpm range but still had a drone in the 1300 to 1700 rpm range and louder at full throttle due to not having a muffler at all. Overall, the 5 inch is not "loud" per-se', it just has a much "deeper drone" and tone. I will be posting a new comparison video of me at the track after this weekend with me doing old runs with the 4 inch exhaust and new runs with the 5 inch. Hope this helps.

[@yaellara6702]

Mine sounds the same, with the same exhaust

[@williamphipps8410]

Subman719, I have a 2011 F250 with the 6.7l and looking to do some of the mods that you have done. I have only had the truck for 2 wks. Would like to pick your brain about some of the mods if you don't mind?

[@subman719]

Sorry for the delayed response... you can email me at [e-mail] and I'll be glad to help you any way I can! If you haven't had your factory turbo replaced you will most likely need to since the 11's and 12's had ceramic bearings that come apart. I've also recently heard the torque converters are coming apart and need to be replaced as well, especially if adding more power! Check your vehicle history with a Ford Dealer to see what has been done and what can be done before modifications.

[@alexhuerta6196]

7:15 I love when it makes that sounds Jesus 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@goldendreams4215]

I love Jesus. And I like that sound a lot.

[@RHCP9181]

I'm in California, I have a 6.4 and can't get around the smog, but if you do the dpf delete and cat, do you have to run a tuner?

[@charlesbray3118]

I see yours still makes that squeel noise as well

[@mukarram]

that diesel sound is just straight power sound man

[@subman719]

Thanks! Still needs a bigger turbo kit for more power though!

[@Thibz68]

Nice . I do enjoy the sound more with the 5" exhaust w/ turbine muffler.. My opinion it has more of a lower growl to it (which I prefer)..This was the whole reasoning I went with 5" exhaust myself .. Thanks for sharing..

[@subman719]

I agree that the turbine muffler gave it a lower growl but that was because of it having a smaller baffle area. While it did sound nice, it wasn't getting rid of the annoying drone in the cab while cruising and it was a little louder and more annoying to my neighbors when I come home late at night. I found that the MBRP Quiet Tone muffler was a good balance between a nice growl yet comfortable for everyone in or out of it. I use my truck for work and family travel so my needs are a little different than some other people who are looking for mainly performance sound.

[@inlikeflynn223]

nasty man I love it

[@jamesg6071]

Get a resonator from Wally over at FTE. Get the 30" and I guarantee it will kill all the drone on the 5"

[@subman719]

James Geraughty ... Thanks for the recommendation!

[@alecglassidis00t]

Sounds mean as hell!!

[@leloreynaga8298]

I have a 2013 6.7 power stroke and would like to have a very similar set up could anyone give some tips/ advice THANKS!!

[@subman719]

Lelo Reynaga ... I have many new and used parts available from my truck in this video that I will sell at a great price. If you’re interested you can email me at: [e-mail] to discuss. Hope this helps

[@ononewheel7]

Great sounding system what intake setup are u using also nice titan fuel tank as well just put a 50g one in my superduty this past week

[@subman719]

+ononewheel7 ... Thanks! I'm using the S&B intake now because I plan on upgrading the turbo system in the future. The Titan tank is definitely is the way to go! Not always looking for a fuel station as often!

[@ononewheel7]

+subman719 Nice thats the one im looking into w a dry filter instead of the k&n style one did u have to do any programming to adjust the miles to empty?

[@subman719]

+ononewheel7 ... I have the cleanable gauze style filter because I like the fact that you buy it once and clean and recharge as needed versus having to spend more money over time with the paper type filters. I purchased a gallon of K&N oil on Amazon.com and it is lasting me forever! I also feel that the oil helps trap more particles while still allowing decent flow versus paper which will become more restrictive, sooner as it clogs up. That's just my opinion though. As for the Miles to Empty programming... I did take it in to my dealer with the instructions I found online to allow the technician to change the size of the fuel tank in the PCM. I now have proper readings. They only charged me a half hour to do the update.

[@ononewheel7]

+subman719 Thx for the info i had an airraid system in my previous super duty and like it a lot but like the looks of the s&b better.hopefully i can get it programed this week when i ask my dealer about larger fuel tank options they told me it cant be done lol thats when i started searching online and found titan now i can go back and show those idiots

[@rbell944]

Did the muffler help the drone at highway speeds?

[@subman719]

The muffler helped a little bit but not much because it was a straight through muffler. Towing on the highway was even worse. Based on my experience with both the 4” and 5” exhausts, 4” will yield better performance and less drone due to slight increase in back pressure. The 5” sounds meaner but you sacrifice your in-cab comfort and sanity on long highway trips. Hope this helps.

[@rbell944]

@@subman719 what about a 5” straight pipe and the mbrp muffler? Drone gone?

[@subman719]

@@rbell944 ... That exact combination was my final experiment and the drone was still there. I used a 5” flo-pro exhaust with a 5” MBRP Quiet Tone muffler (straight through) and there still was drone until I hit 80 MPH on highway to build enough exhaust pressure to cancel out the drone. 65-75 mph was horrendous drone. I did purchase a 5” resonator to put in the exhaust system just after the axle but never got around to installing it. The factory exhaust has a resonator in that position so I was going to experiment with similar philosophy.

[@rbell944]

@@subman719 damn. They advertise it as eliminating drone. Guess I should go 4”? Do I need a muffler on a 4”?

[@subman719]

@@rbell944 ... I recommend a muffler on the 4” as well because there still is quite a bit of bark in a straight through exhaust.

[@DPats1228]

So did the glass pack actually help ? I have a 5.9 cummins straight pipe truck. I love it but I hate the drone noise it makes. Can't even talk in the cab sometimes. Lol. Anyways I'm looking into it

[@subman719]

DanielPats1228.... yes... I HIGHLY recommend using the MBRP Quiet-Tone muffler to reduce the nasty in-cab drone! It has made a world of difference on my truck! Still allows free flow of the exhaust yet takes away just enough of the drone to maintain your sanity! It's nowhere near as quiet as stock but it's very manageable. Outside still sounds mean as HELL!

[@brjha]

ford trucks used to have the best sounding diesels. The 6.7 deleted sounds awful.

[@mikebroek2177]

How much does the 5 inch exhaust Cost?

[@subman719]

Mike Broek ... I did full stainless steel with MBRP Quiet Tone muffler... I believe it cost me around $700-$800.

[@goldendreams4215]

Sounds like crickets.

[@jasonchapoton3490]

Sounds great bud. Too bad it didn't work out for you. I think that aero turbine muffler gave it a better sound then straight pipe for sure. Think I will have to look into a system like this one. I like some drone

[@devinporter4028]

Have you had any problems after doing a full delete? I have a 2014 f250 interested in do a full delete but concerned about having problems I only have 57,000 miles on my truck should I wait till I reach 100,000?

[@subman719]

Devin Porter ... Problems are all relative with these trucks! If you DON'T do the delete you will most likely see a $7000 repair bill to replace the DPF system because they are now classified as "wearable items" and NOT covered under the full powertrain warranty or emissions warranty! Max lifespan on DPF systems are about 120k miles given highway driving and proper regeneration cycles. If you do a lot of local driving then it's considerably less. I did my delete and tuner at 1200 miles and now have 36,000 miles on it after 4 years of mostly local driving. That includes Plowing and running it hard like a sports car! I keep my H&S Mini Maxx tuner cranked all the way up except for heavy towing which was producing exhaust gas temps over 1400 degrees and caused two EGT sensors to fail in 34,000 miles at the cost of $25 each from www.tascaparts.com The tuner kit requires that one EGT sensor from the DPF be moved up into the exhaust manifold where it's MUCH hotter, causing it to fail sooner if you don't lower the H&S factory set EGT limit. I've since then turned my limiter down to 1200 degrees to make everything last longer. So, to answer your question... keeping a small stock of user replaceable $25 sensors on hand is WAY CHEAPER than losing $7000 every time the DPF fails! Not to mention the extra power is VERY addicting should you choose to use it! Hope this helps.

[@JD2CYLINDERNUT]

The 6.7 Powerstroke is actually a quiet motor. I have a 250 with a 4" AFE with muffler and a 350 cab chassis with a 4" delete pipe/stock tail pipe and no muffler. Not loud and zero drone in either truck.

[@subman719]

I believe that's because the factory tailpipe is more restrictive with tighter bends and a resonator can so that will keep it quieter. If you use a full aftermarket system, including tail section, the reduced flow and lack of resonators will cause it to be more loud and have a drone in cab. That's just my personal experience with trying different pipes and scenarios.

[@nfdbelgianmedic]

Sounds pretty sweet. Bravo.

[@craneguy76]

Curious to know more about your "clean tune" because it seems you and I agree on them. No desire to roll coal or advertise my deleted upgrade. What tune or vendor are you using? I'm going to be running an SCT Livewire TS programmer with egr block off plates.

[@subman719]

+Christopher Dear ... I am using a custom "delete" tune written by NHRDA Champion, Ryan Miliken who now owns Hardway Performance, www.hardwayperformance.com He used to write the tunes for H&S then went on his own. He no longer writes tunes for Ford products, just specializes in RAM Cummins and primarily uses/recommends the EFI Live tuner. If you are going with the SCT tuner then I recommend getting it AND a custom tune from INNOVATIVE DIESEL in Maryland. www.innovativediesel.com I would call them and discuss your needs. As for block off plates, I recommend either getting the Sinister Diesel kit or get one from Maryland Performance Diesel, www.marylandperfdiesel.com They are currently redoing their website so you will need to call them to get the best kit for your application. Hope this helps.

[@stvynix3687]

You should hear my 7.3 with a 5" exhaust.... it's beautiful, but load. Nice sound when taking off.

[@stephaniemcfarlane8486]

I am pretty new at learning about diesels. I Have an F250 6.7 and I really want that "big truck" sound without blowing out the coal. Do I have to do a delete to get it, or is there another way?

[@lscott4402]

Stephanie McFarlane you normally see lots of black smoke on the trucks that have aftermarket diesel engine programmer's installed. It's a result of over fueling.

[@chaiselabrie6497]

Kid knows how to actually rev the engine right

[@subman719]

Thanks for the compliment! I was actually about 45 when I did this video! LOL

[@chaiselabrie6497]

Lmao oh okay. My apologies. Nice truck bud I got a 6.0 prolly gonna get what u have next

[@tristannichols9207]

Hey I would love to know how you got your h and s to tune this? Did you get a custom tune from somebody.? I have a mini maxx but it won't turn the dpf lights off or anything. It works up to a 2012 and not on a 2013

[@subman719]

+Tristan Nichols ... You NEED to have a custom "delete" tune using the H&S MCC software... Mine is from Ryan Milliken of Hardway Performance but you can also contact Innovative Diesel in Maryland for a good, clean "delete" tune!

[@jordynlowe2190]

awesome man, thank you!!

[@subman719]

You're very welcome! Any time! I'm hoping to do some new videos of the EGR cooler delete and Crankcase Vent delete in the near future!

[@subman719]

Here's an updated video with me changing out the Aero Turbine muffler for a better/quieter MBRP Quiet Tone to reduce in cab drone: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX_JmWZ-qLWnY6c

[@atlrenovations]

hello where can i but the MBRP muffler ?

[@subman719]

***** Here's a link to where I got mine: www.dieselpowerproducts.com/p-9808-mbrp-5-quiet-tone-diesel-muffler.aspx Hope this helps!

[@TheMijo0131]

I have my work truck deleted and straight piped, the end was kind of curved up so i put a 5" 45° tip to throw the smoke back but i swear it doesnt sound as mean as it used to.

[@subman719]

SOXCAL_IxE ... I don’t think the tip will change the way it sounds... probably just perception of the sound because it’s redirected and reflecting differently. If it’s a resonator tip like people put on rice burners then it may change the sound.

[@carsonunruh9173]

I'm thinking if deleting my 2016 6.7 Would you recommend a 4" or 5" exhaust? I want a good sound but not a drone in my cab. Thanks!

[@subman719]

Carson Unruh ... 4” will have less drone than the 5” but you will still need an MBRP Quiet Tone muffler to further reduce drone. That muffler is straight through so it produces excellent sound and free flow. I do want to mention however that the EPA has now put massive restrictions on deleting emissions components so you might run into a problem finding a delete capable tuner. My H&S Mini MAXX is for sale if you’re interested. It has delete capable tunes plus emissions compliant tunes in it.

[@carsonunruh9173]

Ok thanks for the info. Thanks but I want to get a EZ Lynk. I'm from Alberta and there's some good tuning available for deleted trucks in the area!

[@viivcreations9161]

Im thinking of getting a newer ford 6.7 powerstroke later this year to replace my current k1500 work truck, would it be better for me to find a shop that can tune it like you do or just do it myself with tools (first time)?

[@subman719]

+ViiV Creations ... If you have basic tools and basic mechanical knowledge you'll be able to do it yourself. Just look for tutorial video and or instructions here and on the web. I may do a short tutorial video on what I did for modifications once the weather gets a little warmer here. Just subscribe to my channel so you can get notified when I do post. Hope this helps.

[@viivcreations9161]

Thanks alot man, ill be looking forward!

[@williamphipps8410]

Thinking about adding an H&S Tuner, should I go with the Mini Maxx or the XRT Pro? Not sure of the difference really? Looking to do the EGR/DPF Delete as well. Anyone's thoughts?Thank you.

[@subman719]

Sorry for the delayed response... I personally recommend the Mini Maxx since it has the MCC capability which is required to do the deletes. The XRT Pro and Mini Maxx RACE tuners are only for 2012 and below trucks I believe with delete capabilities built in. If you have a 2013 or newer truck, you will need a Mini Maxx STREET tuner with the MCC custom delete programming. You can get that from NHRDA Race Champion, Ryan Miliken from his website, www.hardwayperformance.com That's who I used. There are MANY other people out there writing programs for the MCC but there's a RIGHT way and a WRONG way of getting power! Ryan Miliken is a top notch programmer and gives you the most power in a SAFE and CLEAN manner!

[@b3ross]

Great video. I recently installed a diamond eye 5in. The section right after the down pipe connection, does your exhaust touch the frame? I'm getting a occasional vibration underneath when turning right/reverse and am having a hard time diagnosing the noise.

[@subman719]

Thanks! Mine does not touch anything because Flo-Pro made the front section of pipe a 4 inch after the down pipe and then opens up to 5 inch once it clears. Is your Diamond Eye like that or is it just a full 5 inch starting from the down pipe?

[@b3ross]

subman719 Thanks for the quick reply. Diamond is 5inch starting at the down pipe. There is a little bend which I am assuming is to clear the frame. I'll email you a couple pictures of where it's touching. What a difference these trucks are with the mods!

[@subman719]

***** You could use a torch to heat up the area cherry red on the exhaust where it's touching the frame and then slide a prybar between the frame and exhaust to make a slight indentation to give it more clearance.

[@tommycoyle4475]

Where did you get those led reverse lights?

[@subman719]

Those particular LED lights came from www.strobesnmore.com However, Amazon.com carries them now. Get the flood pattern for best coverage.

[@tommycoyle4475]

subman719 thanks for the reply. What about the bracket too mount them?

[@subman719]

Tommy Coyle ... comes with mounting hardware. I simply attached them to the underside of my bumper where there was already a factory hole provided.

[@robertbricker8774]

So what happens when you try to trade it in and they will not accept it deleted?No dealer is going to loose there inspection license

[@subman719]

Robert Bricker ... That’s why you save all your parts you took off and convert it back to stock before trading it in or sell it privately and give new owner all the parts.

[@jwaltblue]

Is that a regular aero 5050 or a 5050xl with the resonator in it? Just bought a higher milage 2012 and am going to put a Florio on but haven't figured out if I want the 5050xl or not.

[@bobk6277]

It's the 5050 XL with resonator but if you're looking to reduce drone then you will need to go with the Flo-Pro 4" exhaust, NOT 5" like mine and use the 4040 XL muffler! The 5 inch exhaust I did flows TOO MUCH and doesn't reduce shit for sound! Long highway trips are ANNOYING!!! Make sure you get the STAINLESS exhaust like mine, NOT the cheaper Aluminized or else you'll be replacing exhausts as they rot out after a few years!

[@jwaltblue]

Great thanks

[@Kitesurflaventana]

Hi, My Powerstroke 6.7 2015 has gone on idle forced mode only. I can't go faster that 5mph. the problem is that I am in Cancun Mexico and the dealer here can't help me since the Mexican powerstrokes have no urea System. The message centre says exhaust fluid system fault - engine idled.... Please some help and light here, if I get a new exhaust system and a tuner will that fix the problem? Thanks

[@subman719]

Eolos Kiteboading ... Installing a tuner and exhaust system with delete capability may fix your problem as long as there is nothing else going on that needs to be addressed. I wish I could tell you for sure that the tuner will solve all your problems but I can't without more info. Do you have an American powerstroke and are driving it in Mexico?

[@Kitesurflaventana]

Thanks for your reply, actually this is a Canadian truck with urea stock system. I drive to Cancun on every winter and that is the reason why I am stranded here with no power. Mexican dealer wont have the part since the mexican model has no Urea but mine has been driven here... :)

[@subman719]

In that case, based on what you're telling me, yes, installing a delete capable tuner and DPF delete exhaust WILL solve your problem! Once the tuner is in and the software is uploaded to the PCM, it will tell it that the urea system is NOT there anymore so your problem will be GONE!!! Hope this helps!

[@Kitesurflaventana]

Cool! I apreciate your help :)

[@lopez98gt]

Does this void your warranty?

[@subman719]

***** ... ABSOLUTELY!

[@frangeech]

subman719 How soon after you got your truck did you do all of the deletes?

[@subman719]

Frank Miraglia ...I did the initial deletes at 1200 miles and did an oil change switching over to FULL Synthetic.

[@frangeech]

subman719 Nice! My truck almost has 3,000 miles.. I've been going back and forth on wether or not to hold off on the delete. Have you had to go through any random inspection points? And are you registered for over 10,000 GVW's?

[@subman719]

+Frank Miraglia .... Thanks, I am registered at 11,500 GVW and non-commercial so I'm exempt from inspections. never been stopped yet either.

[@ghost6784]

Man that sounded so mean! nice setup forsure! trying to find what i should do from the down pipe, any recommendations? 2011 6.7 f250 with a SCT livewire ts+ and just the dpf cut out

[@subman719]

+ghost6784 ... Just go with the 5" stainless Flo-Pro downpipe back exhaust and you'll be fine! If you don't want a lot of in cab nose then add in the stainless MBRP Quiet-Tone muffler! Either way it will flow nice and sound mean!

[@ghost6784]

just cut the dpf and have it replaced with just a 3,5 pipe. sounds so mean just with that

[@subman719]

+ghost6784 ... While that is an economical way to go, it may not be a good option for those that may want to reinstall the DPF for emissions testing in states that require it or for people that may want to sell their trucks later on. Having a fully intact stock truck brings the most money. Trucks that are modified and hacked up are greatly under valued. Also, as you increase pipe size it lowers the tone. I did mine more for performance reasons rather than just making it louder.

[@tomcampbell8931]

That sounds really good

[@subman719]

Tom Campbell .... Thanks!

[@drutusthewise]

You should do a drive-by video, would love to hear it under load and rolling into it.

[@svt89]

Idk if they changed it on the 6.7 but the 6.4 powerstroke had a 3.5 inch exhaust from turbo back.

[@subman719]

Factory exhaust on the 6.7 was a 3.5 inch as well... that's why I upgraded to a 4 inch initially then went to this 5 inch when I heard the exhaust pushing hard on full acceleration down the track. I also upgraded to this 5 inch in anticipation of a full turbo and injection system upgrade to push 600+ rear wheel HP. The truck is maxed out at 14.6 quarter mile... eventually would like to hit the 12's when money allows.

[@svt89]

Thats why i went with the 6.4 simple tuner and deletes. You can hit high 12s no problem.

[@subman719]

svt89 Yeah... I know... the 6.4 is the most easily tweaked motor out there. I've gotten crushed by them at the track every time!

[@nicksquires5513]

What tuner did you use and did you do it yourself?

[@Charlie-yt1yq]

Should of went no muffler with 5 inch the 4 inch sounded better

[@subman719]

charlie madson ... I actually have a second muffler/resonator to install after this muffler on the 5”. Too much in cab resonance noise between 1400-1700 rpm range under load.

[@tjjsgg1786]

take that bedcab off jeez! it ruins that whole trucks look

[@subman719]

Tjj Sgg .... I need it on for work tools and luggage on trips... It also helps me look like and SUV instead of a truck so I don't get my balls busted. It's the only thing that sets me apart from looking like every other pick-em-up truck out there! Plus it helps the truck not look like something's missing since it's a short bed... too stubby looking with an open short bed. LOL Next truck will be a long bed dually with NO cap!

[@jordynlowe2190]

which flopro tip is that? I know you said 6", but how long and what's the cut?

[@subman719]

It's a: FLO-PRO Rolled Angle Cut Bolt On Exhaust Tip Stainless Steel Inlet: 5" Outlet: 6" Length: 15" Fits: Universal Mfg Part # 9015RAB Our Part # FLO9015RAB www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/flo-pro/stainless-steel-rolled-angle-bolt-on-exhaust-tips.htm?popup=n&gclid=Cj0KEQjw6O-9BRDjhYXH2bOb8Z4BEiQAWRdukwduVqLXGiuZgyVgQNd3A-SJJO34oSNqvQGecim_vJoaAtEt8P8HAQ Hope this helps!

[@tishrh3038]

Have you had any problems with the h&s tuner or the deletes since you did them, just curious about to delete my 13 6.7

[@subman719]

No problems with the tuner or deletes however at some point I must have gotten a batch of bad fuel and the moisture caused rust and corrosion to form on some on the high pressure injection system parts. Truck is currently at dealer being diagnosed and hoping that it repairs can be covered under warranty but if Ford denies the claim due to outside contamination causes, I'm looking at an $8500 repair bill for a complete replacement of the High Pressure Fuel Injection System! I've done my maintenance and filters way above factory recommendations yet it still isn't enough sometimes! Ford recommends to drain your water separator cup once a month at least! I'm currently at 33k miles on the truck and have changed the fuel filters 3 times. Also ford recommends changing oil every 5k miles to prevent turbo failures which are becoming more common! I should've bought a Cummins! LOL

[@tishrh3038]

OUCH, Hope i never have that issue, good luck

[@biohazard7276]

subman719 ...Precisely why I put on a second dual water/fuel separator and filter from DieselSite which are Dahl brand. Probably the best fuel/water separators out there. so I essentially have 3 fuel filters and 2 water separators.

[@Michael-di2jz]

What time did u use

[@subman719]

I’m not sure I understand your question… can you clarify what you mean by “time”? Thanks.

[@PhuNguyen-qr2jd]

Sounds great !

[@subman719]

Phu Nguyen ... Thank you!

[@thecheddarwurst]

I'm getting ready to swap out my stock exhaust for a 5" straight pipe. I was just curious on how long it took you to do the original swap you did with the stock equipment? Awesome truck, she looks & sounds sweet.

[@subman719]

+thecheddarwurst ... with two people it takes about an hour or so, being careful not to damage any OEM sensors and connections and to securely tape up and zip tie them up and out of the way... just in case you ever need to put the factory exhaust back on. Make sure you anti-seize everything and I HIGHLY recommend the FLO-PRO brand exhaust!!! They use stainless cuffs instead of U bolts so it seals better and is easier to remove or make changes! Thanks for the complement!

[@thecheddarwurst]

+subman719 I already bought & have the exhaust, but coincidentally it is a flo-pro system. As far as the stock equipment is concerned, I live in Michigan. There's zero emission regulations here, I'll never be reinstalling the original exhaust. & the problems that I've had with that ridiculous Def fluid reservoir heating element is enough to aggravate anyone. But anyways, thanks for the response, I was just hoping to get an idea of what to expect for a time frame.

[@TheMexicanjuice]

How many inches was the inner of the tip

[@bobk6277]

The smallest part of the tip is where it clamps to the exhaust pipe and that is 5 inches. It then opens up to the full 6 inch to the outer portion of the tip.

[@brockblevins8822]

What year of the 6.7 powerstroke rolls the most coal

[@subman719]

Any year 6.7 can roll coal if you don't have a proper tune. Rolling coal is the byproduct of wasted, un-burnt fuel when too much fuel is delivered for the amount of air flowing through the engine. That's why most "rolling coal" happens on acceleration because there is a burst of fuel at low RPM's to get power without the engine knocking from running lean. "Dirty tunes" will roll coal, waste fuel, attract cops and get you fined. I don't recommend "rolling coal" on the street... There's nothing good that can come of it! Save it for the track!

[@frangeech]

Awesome setup! What made you convert from the previous exhaust you were running? Also, do you ever encounter any random inspection points in the lovely Garden State?

[@subman719]

Frank Miraglia ... Thanks, I changed to the larger exhaust for better flow under full throttle conditions and to accommodate a larger turbo setup in the future. I'm NON-commercial so I've never been randomly stopped. I keep all my equipment unmarked and private so I don't have the hassles of commercial. Plus, none of my combined equipment ever exceeds the 25,900 lb. weight limit so I don't need to have a CDL.

[@frangeech]

I'm thinking about going 5", but undecided on if I should add a muffler or not. Is there a big difference with and without the muffler?

[@subman719]

Frank Miraglia .... Well... I can tell you that if my Aero Turbine 5050XL Muffler is muffling any sound, my exhaust would be be absolutely RIDICULOUSLY LOUD without it! My exhaust is pretty annoying and obnoxious as it is so straight piped would be worse! I'm almost ready to put the stock exhaust back on because I can't even enjoy listening to the radio anymore or hear myself think because the drone in the cab is so damn loud! I can't even start it up to leave my house after 10pm because it violates noise ordinances and shakes my neighbors out of their beds! :(

[@kennethnicklowicz1030]

increasing the size does NOTHING but LOOSE performance

[@subman719]

Kenneth Nicklowicz ... You're absolutely RIGHT! I lost a couple tenth's of a second off my quarter mile time since installing the 5 inch exhaust! My goal is to allow enough exhaust flow when I upgrade to a larger turbo but for the factory turbo, the 4 inch would have been my best choice. I do, however, like the throatier sound that the 5 inch makes. Who knows... I may put the stock exhaust back on once the crazy loud drone sound puts my over the edge! LOL

[@kennethnicklowicz1030]

Yea I learned the same way.. Coool truck

[@subman719]

Kenneth Nicklowicz Thanks!

[@graham_cracker_5.9]

You lose no performance from a bigger exhaust.

[@subman719]

Zach Graham ... I don't know but my 1/4 mile times got worse after swapping to the 5".

[@donniekane3260]

When i get my 08 6.4. How in the world do i get my truck to sound like yours?

[@subman719]

+GWAIN Andrews ... Due to the sequential turbo design of the 6.4, You may not be able to get the exhaust to sound "exactly" like mine... You will most likely have more turbo whistle which will sound really cool! If you go with the Flo-Pro 5 inch exhaust like mine, you will have a deeper, throatier sound like mine versus the 4 inch exhaust. If you do the DPF delete for a straight through exhaust, you will need a tuner capable of doing the delete so you don't check check engine lights and other warning indicators. Hope this helps!

[@donniekane3260]

+subman719 Thanks. Will i need head work done if i do the egr delete?

[@subman719]

+GWAIN Andrews ... You won't need head work if you're just doing deletes. Installing ARP head studs with new head gaskets is recommended though if you plan on running consistently at the tuner's max output or do other power adding modifications.

[@donniekane3260]

+subman719 10-4 sir

[@sslack434]

what did u do with your old exhaust

[@subman719]

+sslack434 ... my old exhaust is in my storage unit along with my OEM exhaust and other parts. The 4" exhaust IS for sale if anyone is interested.

[@sebastiancortes2118]

How did you wire the lights underneath the doors? Sweet truck btw!

[@subman719]

Thanks! There’s factory wire harness connectors on the frame rails for running board lights. I just plugged into those. I used LED strips under the door sills.

[@sebastiancortes2118]

subman719 Thanks, I have an 06 f250 6.0 hopefully Mine also has that plug so I can do the same Thanks again!

[@Luke_KJ]

Did the horsepower rating change at all?

[@subman719]

I haven't dyno'd the truck at all so I have no idea on horsepower but I do know that I am a couple tenths of a second SLOWER with the larger, 5 inch exhaust on it as apposed to my previous 4 inch exhaust so I'm guessing the lower or lack of back pressure might be affecting the stock turbo in a NEGATIVE way.

[@Luke_KJ]

Ahh i see

[@patfromjersey]

I guess I'm older now, but I love how quiet my 2014 6.7 diesel sounds. More than enough power from the factory to tow whatever I need without noise. To each his own.

[@subman719]

patfromjersey ... Believe me, I DO MISS the quietness of the factory exhaust quite often but I don't feel like putting the OEM exhaust back on right now. Plus, I'm not ready to give up the added power I now have with the tune and free flowing exhaust. I also don't miss constantly adding DEF! What a pain that was! If I had to do a LOT of daily towing, I would certainly put the factory exhaust back on! The drone while towing at highway speeds is DEAFENING!!! As for "More than enough power from the factory to tow"... yes, factory power is plenty for towing light loads but having the extra power just makes it that much better! Even with the tuner in "tow mode", I would have to keep looking in my mirrors to make sure I still had my 12,000 lb load behind me!

[@Dray12321]

sounds nice

[@subman719]

Thanks!

[@Dray12321]

subman719 thinking about saving up for a 2015 ford f350 6.7l king ranch and maybe doing something like this to it.

[@Dray12321]

fx4, of course.

[@subman719]

You will definitely be glad you did! It really makes the truck feel like a truck! Not to mention it gives it the performance of a sports car!

[@Docstantinople]

Is it legal to delete in Georgia?

[@subman719]

Technically it is Federally illegal to modify or delete any emissions component on any vehicle! It's just a matter of how much risk you're willing to take!

[@jesusortega1918]

Do you have the stock turbo??

[@subman719]

***** ... sorry for the delayed response... YES, I currently am still running the stock turbo. Eventually I will upgrade with kit from Maryland Performance Diesel because it will be a pretty aggressive turbo and fuel system upgrade.

[@barloslol9660]

odsi0

[@rumerboyz]

how is the 6.7 diesel? any problems? thanks

[@subman719]

+rumerboyz .... So far, at 25,000 miles, the ONLY failure was one of the EGT sensors that I transferred from the DPF to the exhaust manifold for the H&S Mini MAXX to monitor exhaust temps. It failed at 24k miles and was giving erratic readings from 32 degrees to 2600 degrees, which caused the Mini Maxx to de-fuel to protect the engine. I turned the Mini Maxx back to STOCK level to bypass the readings until I replaced the sensor. I took another one from the DPF, installed and it runs like a champ again! I ordered a couple replacement EGT sensors from www.tascaparts.com for about $30 each with shipping. ***Based on some research, the factory VGT turbos are failing between 100k to 150k miles on STOCK motors and if not caught quickly, are blowing chunks down the intake and taking out the entire motor! Due to the added stress on everything from the increased performance levels, I estimate a failure at half that mileage, therefore I plan on upgrading the turbo to a Borg Werner NON-VGT kit in the near future. After MUCH investigation, I've decided to go with the H&S turbo kit with the Borg Werner SX-E turbo due to its reliability, performance and cost. Also, H&S has a tune available to match that configuration which simplifies things and keeps cost down. ***I will be posting another video of the install process once I get the kit.

[@rumerboyz]

+subman719 thanks for that great info man. you got a real nice truck! trying to decide on a 6.2 gas or the diesel ford.

[@subman719]

+rumerboyz ... You're welcome and thanks! Do yourself a favor... Get a RAM with the 6.4 HEMI (FULL LIFETIME WARRANTY available) or a RAM with the CUMMINS! MUCH more reliable and longevity! Even the Oil Change intervals on the Cummins FAR exceed the Ford by THREE TIMES as much! 15,000 miles for CUMMINS vs. 5000 miles for Ford! Not to mention that the RAM interiors FAR EXCEED the cheap sea of plastic in the Ford! You can have MY truck if you want! It may be for sale soon! LOL

[@rumerboyz]

+subman719 yeah, just met a guy who has a 6.4 ram and he hates it. been in the shop 3 times and only has 3000 miles on it! So that's out for me. He said the 5.7 is much better. Still gonna look at the ford 6.2 and ram diesel. thanks man

[@subman719]

+rumerboyz ... If you want, I can put you in touch with a friend of mine that was a Ford owner and now has THREE RAMS! A 1999 with the 5.9 Cummins, a 2013 6.7 Cummins and a 2014 with the 6.4 Hemi... He uses ALL of them professionally for Hot Shot Trucking and has racked up 500k miles on the '99, 170k miles on the '13 and like 40k on the '14... He SWEARS by ALL of them! I've been a DIE HARD Ford F350 owner since 2004 and have had FOUR Super Duty's now... an '04, '07, '11 and now the '13... It took my friend almost a YEAR to convince me that RAM has vast benefits over the Ford Super Duty product line. I can personally tell you that this WILL be my LAST Ford product and my next truck will be a RAM! The F150 with the ECO-Boost motors are another animal... those are INCREDIBLE!!! Like I said, I can put you in touch with my friend just to get some further info and experiences with the RAM to help you make a decision one way or the other. Which ever you choose, do your homework EXTENSIVELY BEFORE locking in! These things cost a LOT of money and not being properly informed can cost you even MORE as it has in my case! Don't get me wrong, the Super Duty is a BEAUTIFUL looking truck and I like it's exterior better than RAM, however, now that I've been thoroughly informed about the differences between RAM and Ford, I know where my money will be with my next truck!

[@motox766]

hey bud did that muffler work out ok so far?

[@bobk6277]

Yes. The new MBRP Quiet Tone muffler still allows a nice tone without the excessive in cab drone in the mid rpm range. Much more effective than the Aero Turbine muffler.

[@motox766]

Ok cool thanks bud

[@griff3637]

i believe that you are not able to get rid of that howling noise. As far as i know (correct me if i am wrong), it is because of the reverse-impellor design of these 6.7L power stroke turbos.

[@aaronjones8341]

I kinda like the howling noise sets the truck apart from all the other diesel V8s

[@anthonyj810]

Griffin Jackson You could get aftermarket turbos...if you got an extra 7-10k laying around to change the sound of your truck.

[@mandersn17mark]

Did you see any savings in your mpg?

[@subman719]

Mark Anderson ... unfortunately I haven't noticed because I did the delete so early on. I'm currently averaging about 14 mpg with my lead food around town.

[@mandersn17mark]

Thanks

[@BigSmellyRangey]

Gorgeous noise. I think you just converted me to a fan of diseasel engines! What kind of mileage are you getting, or is it really low because you're having so much fun blowing off sports cars? Can't wait to see the onboard vid. Thanks for posting.

[@bobk6277]

I'm averaging 19mpg highway at around 75mph and getting like 13mpg local driving.

[@taylorharrison2570]

Did this fix the drone on the highway at cruising speeds? I'm worried about the drone If I delete because I drive on the highway a lot. Do you like this set up now?

[@subman719]

The use of the 5 inch exhaust made the drone at highway speeds MUCH worse until I hit about 1900 RPM or 80 MPH where there is enough flow through the large muffler to cancel out the drone! I would've been better sticking with the 4 inch exhaust and addind the 4 inch Aero Turbine muffler to that because it would build back pressure sooner to cancel the drone at lower RPM's and speed. This 5 inch exhaust does make the truck sound mean and throaty but at the tradeoff of uncomfortable noise in cab.

[@lachlansmith2012]

BORINGGGGGGGGGG

[@msokes9]

How do u pass emissions?

[@subman719]

88MS88 ... I don’t and can’t. Because I’m over 10,000 lbs registered weight and registered as a passenger vehicle, I’m “self-inspect” which exempts me from motor vehicle inspections. If I register commercial it’s a whole other game and I’d be screwed and have to keep everything stock. It’s a loophole in my state and I’m sitting in the middle of it.

[@msokes9]

subman719 ok. Makes sense

[@msokes9]

subman719 does this go for every diesel pickup or just yours?

[@subman719]

88MS88 ... Every diesel pickup in NJ following same guidelines. If the truck is being used commercially for interstate transport then it must pass D.O.T. Inspection. For private use and non-commercial registration it’s exempt. The fine line is if you use it to haul your commercial/work trailer within the state but don’t have it registered commercially... then it can get tricky if stopped.