2014 Modern vs 2024 Standard

[@Smash_Captain]

Big fan of this series, putting best/meta decks of different magic eras against each other. Really want to see more of this.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Thanks!

[@andyspendlove1019]

I also appreciated that they were both similar midrange styles of decks, rather than 2024 Control vs 2014 Jund or something

[@edoardosalvai2759]

Search magic cardmarket best deck ever series

[@ubertuna1]

How about the opposite? An OP older standard deck like counterbalance/top vs a modern deck?

[@swiftdragonrider]

@@andyspendlove1019 this is the reason why standard had a chance. playing vs combo it would have gotten crashed

[@VRanger100]

Richard on the thumbnail is how we all feel from the Siege Rhino days XD

[@jackl8025]

My neck, my back 👴🏾

[@FrancoShady]

I was wondering who the new cast member was for a minute 😂

[@kurowasanabe]

Kind of a missed opportunity to have Seth edited with a clean shave.

[@Atmapalazzo]

Tell me about it.

[@Herintruththelies]

I can't play Magic IRL so I watch a lot of it on KZbin. I must say you guys have done a good job here for several reasons. You dedicate a lot of screen space to the card in play. The editor is Johnny-on-the-spot with changing the card in play. You play kinda slow and read the cards and don't use shortcuts. You talk about your thought processes and don't just play silent magic. The sound is good and no annoying music. Overall a well done production that I wish other Magic KZbinrs would learn from.

[@AutumnReel4444]

This.

[@jtmogavero]

yeah, agree with all you said. I don't play magic anymore but I like watching and seeing the goofy matchups they do, and the explaining the thought process. Bonus points for Seth not using his "youtube voice" in his games with Richard, that turns me off of most of his videos.

[@AkiVainio]

Rule violation: In game four Seth created a 1/1 from Wedding Announcement, when he should have drawn a card.

[@AkiVainio]

Also, missed trigger from Aclazotz near the end, when Seth failed to create a bat and I think the day/night was off on various points, but I think I caught the mistake at only one point. I guess the point being that the difference is that you were actually able to play by the rules in 2014, because there was so much less text on those cards.

[@nathanedwards4940]

Pretty sure he was supposed to get some lifelink from the bat too

[@trevorwilliams5144]

He also made a lifelinker in game 3 when he attacked the planeswalker. It says you have to attack the player with the most life. Let me know if I’m misunderstanding something.

[@jacobtorres3029]

I think there was a lifelink missed from the bat that turn as well.

[@nikhilchhagan7371]

@@trevorwilliams5144you’re absolutely right. Preacher of the Schism is not a very well worded card in that respect

[@YohWolf]

Even if some missed triggers happened and other game errors came out of it. I love that you actually play 60 cards constructed in paper in these videos, please keep them coming.

[@alanlynn3610]

10/10 Thumbnail for Old Man Richard 😂

[@JimPea]

A vote for this being the Richard photo used for every thumbnail.

[@baragon023]

I started the video thinking it was someone else and was confused when the video started and had to go back and look at thumbnail.

[@isalundstrom4778]

Now I want to see something like 2024 standard vs 2014 modern vs 2004 legacy vs 1994 Type 1 (vintage). Would be hilarious!

[@williammarcuse6095]

Seth putting his adventure cards in a different spot every time he plays one

[@MTGGoldfish]

Ha, yeah, next time we'll have an official adventure zone. Hopefully it wasn't too confusing.

[@pneuma08]

It truly is an adventure

[@ulycious]

You could stuck it in the deck - multiples will still be convoluted, but it is clearly not on the battlefield

[@0Whitelottus0]

Wouldn’t have it any other way

[@yoyoguy1st]

@@ulyciousi have a friend who does that but it just doesn’t work for me personally

[@andrewric2323]

I do like this video format. I'd love to see the goldfish crew playtest user-submitted and brewed decks this way when a new sets are about to roll out similar to what SCG used to do. Miss those days.

[@alexweil7296]

I loved those

[@christopherclark4393]

There is something special about watching actual paper magic vs. digital. Commander clash, and these videos are great content now that they are paper.

[@TheSmartCinema]

digital is fine as long as its Arena, but god am I glad they stopped playing on MTGO, that client was so scuffed and incredibly boring to watch

[@PowerChannel88]

​@@TheSmartCinemaHonestly, the entertainment from Commander Clash for me was mostly the talking and banter among them, basically a bit Like the Podcast but with a Game going on. But I have also played a lot of mtgo, so I also dont mind it. So far for me the paper is a downgrade, but I can see why many like it better.

[@surfinggarchomp2820]

As a magic player who started in late 2019, I really like this series just to see old decks being played.

[@MTGGoldfish]

I'm glad you are enjoying it!

[@mattm7798]

Old modern from like 2013 thru before Modern Horizons was a ton of fun to watch and play.

[@heywes]

Same here. Its very cool to see what my mate came down from QLD to play all those years ago.

[@y2j1490yahoo]

Sorry to hear you missed real mtg and all the great art it used to offer.

[@darthsnarf]

i started in 2019 too, crazy what the games turned into in just that short time

[@victorappleton1906]

I appreciate all the clarity about all the cards and what they do. It would be easy or even natural to say “it’s Goyf, you all know what’s up” and I appreciate the effort to make things better for newer players

[@Tarrandus]

Courser of Kruphix being 10 years old makes me feel old 😢 That card was the new hotness when I started playing.

[@TheMCGamer2012]

bruh I remember being like what the heck this card does too much

[@dementievatz]

My feel-old moment was when I realized I can recite from memory what every card in the Jund deck does but I had to read the Standard cards. 😂

[@CenJohan]

I know that this is Goldfish so Jund midrange was the inevitable meme pick for “old modern” deck, but I think it would be interesting to use this format to show off other past modern lists. Decks like titan bloom, twin, melira pod, etc.

[@laytonjr6601]

But don't you know that Jund Mirror is the best way to play Magic? (Best as in most enjoyable) /s

[@tranquilwyvern]

Melira pod and Twin would be interesting. I doubt 2024 Standard could keep up.

[@tomsmith4698]

@@tranquilwyvern Standard Dimir would demolish Twin.

[@mattm7798]

LOL, I think Twin would easily win against many standard decks, as would any old modern combo deck because standard decks wouldn't be tuned to account for combo decks. That said, what if instead of orzhov, you had esper midrange, where you would bring in discard and counterspells...that might make some matchups closer. The thing with Titan bloom is that deck was straight up busted. Same with infect decks with git probe. Crazy to think this Jund list competed in the same modern format as Titan Bloom, Twin, Pod, and Affinity.

[@tomsmith4698]

@@mattm7798 But if twin were in the format people would just adjust. Plus it just loses to cut down. I played so much twin in that era. There's no way it would be competitive in standard right now.

[@jerbear88win]

Preacher of the schism doesn't trigger when you attack planeswalkers. Didn't matter but still

[@Teawisher]

Huh, interesting that the 2 "on attack" triggers have different conditions. It also seemed like at one time wedding was played in a turn where 2 creatures attacked but Seth made a token instead of drawing a card.

[@bertrambauer7357]

The way it's worded, it seems like it doesn't trigger the vampire ability, but would trigger the card draw ability

[@MTGGoldfish]

What a weird way to word that card.

[@Xulchen]

@@MTGGoldfish Because it's only if it attacks the player with the most life or tied for most, not that player or a planeswalker they control. Which, yeah, it is a bit confusing. Conversely, the draw ability CAN trigger, because it looks for when you attack while you have the most life, or tied for most, which tacks on a little bit more confusion.

[@giantdad5934]

​@@MTGGoldfish Blame commander for that weird multiplayer wording on a standard set card.

[@drowssapism]

51:28 seth you don't make a human because you attacked with two creatures so you would draw a card. don't really know how it would have changed if you seth was one card deeper but down a chump block / removal target from richard

[@MTGGoldfish]

Oh, good call. Oops!

[@IAmebAdger]

Also they forgot to count a life for the lifelink bat...

[@robthaham3408]

It also looks like Richard missed a draw step after a Bob trigger. (same game)

[@espinacasable]

I really like these videos My favorite series was the banned bracket from some years ago so I'm glad y'all are doing more

[@imperialcitizen4811]

This is the best series on your channel. I would LOVE to see more videos in this style, either digital or in paper. It would be great to see broken standards like Darksteel Standard fight against another broken Standard from 10 or 15 years later and see how it plays out. I think one could match up different standard metas from pre fire design like this and get very interesting results. Post fire it all seems like kind of a wash.

[@marginis]

The fact that this is even a question shows the insane power creep MTG has had recently. Don't get me wrong, there's always been creep, but the current era is something special. And this video doesn't even have new eternal-format-only cards.

[@legendarydragoon1462]

It's really sad to see the direction magic has taken for the last 5 years

[@marginis]

@legendarydragoon1462 Love your name btw

[@kannanraju5018]

fantastic production quality - loved the setups and the commentary. More please!

[@jacobbower807]

Absolutely love this content! Y’all are great doing anything you do, but this paper Magic series has been especially fun to watch!

[@sakabato24]

Jund was a product of it's time. The cards in the deck were efficient for the time frame of what Modern looked back then. Bolt was overall good, but stuff like Decay and Malestorm Pulse were more targeted removal spells for other decks in the format (ex. Decay for Twin's Pestermite/Deciver and Pulse for stuff like Affinity). Even cards like Baloth were more silver bullets for the Jund mirror/Burn than MU like this. I distinctively remember that Jund struggled against 4+cmc cards strictly because Jund wanted to keep thier cards and the removal spells low and efficient against the other low/efficient decks. It's very interesting to see things like this in this video.

[@tellable9425]

Gigantic fan of these "historical matchups" or "Old vs New" type videos. More of these please!

[@_claymore]

Nadu v. Hogaak was really cool to see, so I am excited that you make this a series! hope there's more to come, it's really interesting to see the old v. new MTG. also honestly not surprised to see 2024 standard rip into decade old modern. the power creep is evident from set to set nowadays, so going back a full decade is almost a death sentence.

[@thedude5able]

More Richard playing Magic! More historical comparisons! This is amazing stuff that truly shows Magic's everchanging history and gameplay that I love from MTGGoldfish!

[@finnpeterson4335]

Hearing Richard have normal opinions and good card analysis is so wild after every commander clash episode with the most deranged takes possible.

[@ther3aper561]

Please keep doing this series. This is awesome and I LOVE seeing stuff like this

[@artvanderschlut7205]

These episodes are excellent. Super entertaining & the editing is great! Love it

[@charliewalsh5678]

i love each card detail displayed on the screen, this is great .

[@Duall8]

The Abzan analogy is apt. Most Wedding announcement decks prey on the Black Go for the Throat decks as long as the Announcement decks also have removal (and the creatures are decently resilient against removal). It was one of the key cards for Mono-W+X decks back in the Invoke Despair days and still is leading up to rotation. The Orzhov deck also has the "slightly bigger" composition which puts it at an advantage. 27:35 In regards to cutting discard in Midrange mirrors, there's the aspect that a decent number of the Midrange mirrors have been Blue (counterspells), have involved the Wandering Emperor (a relatively expensive noncreature), or have involved draw-discard effects like Raffine or Fable to get rid of "dead" discard cards for value. Also, there's a lot more card advantage now, so while you may not be able to hellbent your opponent, it's also less likely to be dead. I think the wisdom about sideboarding out discard spells comes more from heavy Modern discard with IoK, Thoughtseize, and Lili to get both players hellbent while current Standard Midrange doesn't play that way.

[@31jonnyton]

Woohoo love this content guys. Have a good Monday!

[@MTGGoldfish]

Thanks!

[@AnonYmous-et4mz]

This was extremely fun. I would love some more paper play on the main channel. Also talking about sideboarding and post game discussion are things I love to hear. If you keep at it, mybe consider putting in a little overlay somewhere with names and cmc of cards in hand; this is one of the little things I adore and appreciate about Carl and Tommi over at Cardmarket/Mengus Workshop, respectively.

[@daviddent5662]

Seth: "I think I've gotta keep my Deep Cavern Bats in despite them being meh" Me: "You missed a chance to say 'despite them being bleh bleh'" **Vampiric hissing and Sorin impersonations** = = = = = = = = = = = This is series has been so fun I think we should consider making a fan-made format where one deck is played from something from this year and then for your second game, you have to play something meta/popular from yesteryear. It's just such a neat challenge of skills as well as a good indicator to really show how much MTG has changed. You do get matches like this sometimes when a returning player shows up and gets in that niche of 'my cards are old but they do stuff yours don't" but having a whole format of it would be just so much fun.

[@ryanhebertson7457]

I love theses new types of videos! I would love to see 2010 legacy vs 2024 modern!! It’s also great to get Richard content on this channel!

[@glitchyikes]

1:07:10 Richard discards a land to Aclatzotz's attack trigger, Seth shoud've created a 1/1 flying bat. Also, would be interested to see modern without straight to modern cards.

[@qazzaqstan]

It's fine he created an extra bat at 40:30 because Preacher didn't attack a player (I think).

[@christiannazario1617]

I LOVE these Modern videos, I hope you guys keep em coming! I dont play Modern but i enjoy 60 card formats.

[@BosSoxFan15]

At 40:40 preacher has to attack a player with the most life to create the token. Its a bit counter intuitive because that ability cares if you attack planeswalkers, but the second ability doesn’t.

[@yoyoguy1st]

I have played against this card so many times and never knew that

[@SmoesKnows]

The production quality is unmatched. Such a pleasant watch.

[@valiumoni]

Loving the series guys. I still find it amazing you guys have all the decks in paper. Arena and pre release are all my magic cards

[@snapbrainstorm7233]

Everyone’s talking about the wedding announcement game violation but literally a minute earlier Richard forgot to draw a card for turn because his bob revealed a land

[@mopanda81]

I really enjoy this video series, just a fun premise watching some powerful decks go at it. Probably the most interesting part is just the discussions around the games too it's really hard to quantify sometimes just how pushed modern card designs are. Even just seeing "DEATHTOUCH" or "LIFELINK" or some other ridiculous keyword stapled onto creatures now when tarm is basically a vanilla is pretty crazy

[@T.Made.It.95]

I absolutely love this new webcam series, I started playing mtg in 2015 and this has me feeling very nostalgic 😊

[@triplea657aaa]

PLEASE do more of these! It's awesome seeing cool older decks against new powercrept weaker formats.

[@alexanderficken9354]

I would love to see old extended decks against modern decks nowadays. Memory jar megrim, Oath of druids combo, etc.

[@chenecaddell]

Wow. This was the era I started getting really into Magic, and it's crazy to be reminded of what we all thought of as overpowered back then. Bolt and Thoughtseize may be timeless, but it's rare to see any other cards from old Jund anymore, outside of some Goyfs on occasion. I'm blown away.

[@sef4943]

i think in game 2 seth missed lethal a few times with the animate land

[@NaldoNidoking]

I was looking for somebody else who saw this. Was a little frustrating, but it's understandable to forget about any lands that can turn into creatures.

[@bbbbb8191]

Man im 2 minutes in and im loving the energy and passion coming from Richards remembering about the times he played this deck

[@Welverin]

In future episodes, please tell us if someone mulligans and how far down they went.

[@thatonefergie]

In game 4, Wedding Announcement should've drawn Seth a card after he played it since he attacked with 2 creatures. Not sure if that would've changed the game but easily overlooked thing about the enchantment.

[@SilverAlex92]

My only solace after watching this, is that jund gave the good fight :')

[@Quiron1985]

decks vs each other from different time periods and formats is really good content.

[@MVLGAMING]

Loved playing a Jund deck like that back then. It was a blast to see it in action again!

[@atlys258]

Love this series, love seeing different eras and formats colliding like this and really satisfies my curiosity even if the deck I want to win doesn't do too hot 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽

[@smrofopgus]

I love this series As a relatively new player, it's fun to see decks from different metas go against each other, or previously banned cards to see how warping they were haha

[@bencheevers6693]

Love these videos and it's so good, when bat sniped bolt I expected him to hand it over

[@anyazxr]

I love this series! I’d love to see some really old top of the meta decks, like a deck straight out of combo winter!

[@TheMCGamer2012]

I love Richard's piloting of Jund :D having the best time

[@NoLucksGiven]

Some interesting moments at 33:00 in when both players began main-phasing their cards. Richard starts with a Pulse for more damage, but if he didn’t, Seth possibly takes out the Goyf and Richard then has a Bob. Then Seth main phases the Planeswalker to kill Goyf, exposing himself to the Raging Ravine crack back (rather than flashing in the walker after attacks).

[@swimfast4]

Seeing that jund deck laid out brings back so many memories. Absolutely beautiful

[@liamblue9992]

kinda curious to know how forward do you have to go in modern to catch up to current standard

[@thomasclowater9471]

The second fatal push shows up, any standard deck is absolutely cooked

[@51gunner]

At 19:00 or so, wouldn't Seth have just been able to push lethal with Restless Fortress? It always drains 2 life on attack, and it's too big to Bolt.

[@tricksonafixed]

I genuinely miss playing Dark Confidant and Liliana of The Veil. Also the mana base hasn’t changed and if anything is worse now than back then and that’s because of Urza’s Saga. The card is fantastic but things can get awkward, painful, or both.

[@nickhaze2491]

Is orzhov one of the best decks in standard? Wouldn’t azorious, esper mid, simic cookies etc be a better representation of standards power level?

[@sawyermifsud852]

it has been for the last few weeks. Though Seth isn't running the version of the deck with Caustic Bronco that is doing so well.

[@MTGGoldfish]

We wanted to have it be midrange vs. midrange. We discussed doing Esper, but figured it didn't really make a ton of difference and Orzhov is currently the #1 deck on the metagame page so we just went with it.

[@nickhaze2491]

@@MTGGoldfish fair enough

[@sgjuxta]

Also, given that this is 2014 Modern, Jund definitely was NOT one of the best decks in the format at the time. Not saying it was necessarily bad, but if you look at the state of modern in 2014 on MtGTop8, Jund is around 7th in metagame share with 5% of results. If we really wanted to see tier 1 July 2024 standard versus tier 1 July 2014 modern, Richard should have been playing Affinity, Twin, or Birthing Pod, because those were the decks that were actually really good at that time, not Jund.

[@lamiaprincess6371]

Awww I saw Orzhov Midrange and was hoping to see some snorse action myself, but this was fun none the less. Great stuff.

[@torrorro1]

Standard creature lands and mirrex are actually really good..

[@joegeomancer6978]

Love this kind of content s+ tier. Also All jokes aside I think richard could pull off a beard seeing that thumbnail.

[@julianfacundocalabrese1176]

Love this! Feel like domain would had been a better representative from standard, but not sure really. I think maybe for a future edition maybe give the old deck the chance to swap up to 5 or so for meta call cards (the swap should be from the timeframe of the deck, maybe taking out cards that made sense for the metw back then). Either way, pls more, this are great!

[@Badname2011]

when seth talks it makes me feel like hes gonna kill me and eat my flesh. just creepy af

[@lucasudbury-froggatt]

seth shouldn't have made the lifelinking vampire from attacking liliana.

[@Dext3rM0rg4n]

Really like this new concept of making two top deck from different meta compete against each other. It make for some interresting match you'll never experience at an LGS or mtga.

[@andrewlijoi]

I really love these Vs videos, great idea!

[@sidneypowelstock6812]

This is super nostalgic. I remember getting so excited beating a teacher's 2014 jund deck with my $20 boros heroic brew

[@epothos1]

When I first started playing creatures even legendary ones were near garbage and instants/sorceries/artifacts were the strongest plays savannah lions was goated for almost a decade later powered down to jackal pup. Flametongue kava was premium removal unless Superman was on the field.

[@maxlancaster975]

Kinda niche but when preacher attacks a planeswalker it does not trigger, because it is attacking a planeswalker rather than the player w the most life

[@mattm7798]

Keep in mind 1 year before this Bloodbraid elf was banned as was deathrite shaman. If you go back to 2012 or 2013 jund, those cards I think could tip the match at least to even. But still, I think they hit the nail on the head: Baneslayer Angel type standard playable cards are not seen much. sheoldred is an outlier. Decks now just never run out of cards. IMO that's a bad thing but not going to stop anytime soon.

[@Zarbon000]

It’s no longer a resource management game. It’s keep casting things until the game ends. No worry or running out.

[@mattm7798]

@@Zarbon000 Good point. It's becoming more like YuGiOh where you just keep playing cards until you run out. Personally, I think it all comes down to an old comparison of creature types. The good ones are usually either a baneslayer angel or mulldrifter. In the first half of MTG's life, the most pushed creatures tended to be baneslayers, who had to sit on the BF a few turns and if not removed, would take over the game. For a while now, most of the best are mulldrifters, who provide value upon either entering or exiting the BF and if you kill them, it's still a 2 for 1. You can make really fun an exciting baneslayers still. Sheoldred is a baneslayer(who IMO is only not fun because they pushed it too hard so it sees play everywhere). Glissa is a baneslayer and alot of fun to play with and against.

[@Zarbon000]

@@mattm7798 What’s Krenko Buzzcrusher? Null drifter? Nadu? Uro? The Boros Uro? I’d argue they are Mulldrifters And Baneslayer Angels.

[@mattm7798]

@@Zarbon000 Yes, I made sure to not be absolute, as some cards are both. I would say Nadu is much closer to MullDrifter as the only way it isn't a 2 for 1 is with a sweeper. Also Nulldrifter and Uro are the definitions of Mulldrifter type cards. They are not baneslayers. Baneslayer means it has to stick out on the BF for a turn or 2 to generate value(think Sheoldred).

[@Zarbon000]

@@mattm7798 I take Baneslayer to mean a powerful threat that will damage kill the opponent. Nulldrifter and Buzzcrusher are 4/4 Fliers, that’s formidable. And Uro is a 6/6 that can’t really Die. It eats removal spells and keeps coming. Nadu Wins the game if left in play, Mulldrifter can’t do anything close to that.

[@Crusina]

LOVE this series. This is actually the ONLY non digital magic games I've ever wanted to watch aside from the professors stuff

[@Clackerr]

I feel that esper would have been a better representation of the current standard midrange deck of choice. Also 3 color vs 3 color. I bet that esper would trounce jund harder.

[@michaellogan2780]

This just feels like a excuse for Richard to play Tarmogoyf and it actually be good

[@JacoDeltaco]

the fact that Seth does not animate the restless forteress is killing me it would have win the 2 game without giving Richard a chance and it also put counter on it with the virtue

[@MichelPlanteBrand]

Next we need Seths 2012 Soul Sisters against Richards Standard White Weenie

[@Matti_Mattsen]

Yes, more 1on1 paper play! Please please please do more of this, it is a great format!!!

[@andrewbrock3675]

In game 2, with you at over 20, and your opponent at 4, and you're in control of the game, and have extra blockers... You always attack. lol. You even used the bat to know he didnt have any answers.

[@Karl_Smink]

Don't think Richard realized Fulminator is an out to Aklazotz.

[@Deedeedee156]

As a fellow former jund player, Richard is such a vibe lol

[@MaximilianoEmanuel.]

Love this aproach of playing old times god stuff decks vs new decks of actual meta.

[@cptawesome11]

Why does Aclazotz transform into the creature tapped? Edit: Never mind, because the land taps for the ability causing the creature to be tapped.

[@siegeryno8272]

Bigger mid range decks could prey on Jund even in this era. The deck was tuned to the meta and 5 drops are great against abrubt decay and lightning bolt. Yes power creep, but this isn’t as wild as it seems. 2014 titan and splinter twin would destroy this orzov deck

[@simpking2500]

Just let richard relive his glory days and play against 2014 storm or ascendancy combo.

[@DellogPlays]

I've really enjoyed this and the Nadu vs Hogaak videos. I don't really personally have much in the way of ideas for more similar videos, but if you make them I'll probably watch. Hopefully more Modern?

[@silphonym]

At 40:30, shouldn't Seth not get the token, since he isn't attacking a player (he is attacking Richard's Liliana)? I just realized how weird that wording is on Preacher, it checks for the player that is getting attacked for the first ability but checks for the life of his controller for the second.

[@stefungi]

The series is great so far, It’s really interesting to see how historic decks fare against each other. Can’t wait for the inevitable TBD Standard deck with Uro and friends to make an appearance and make everyone miserable 😂

[@SteveRyan-bg5yz]

lol, love the irl vids. Keep it up guys!

[@romancookie881]

All for this series. More paper magic is a nice change of pace

[@chris-m1g5r]

Game 4 had less rule mistakes than top 8 games in the pro tour, good job guys

[@GaaradancepartyX]

Broken standard decks of the past against modern standard. Temur energy and caw blade against power crept standard of today

[@ketchumall8243]

Pretty sure Seth missed lethal for a long time in game two. He cpuld have animated his Reatless Fortress which drains for 2 on attack.

[@petersehrlustig3752]

Imagine taking your just bought event deck to this thing called friday night magic, sitting down to try out this cool card game your friends talked about and facing Jund, getting thoughtseized first turn and the opponent starts to write down every card of your hand full of basics and vanillas. This guy must've been great company back in the days... But great content, I love to see the old magic.

[@Eclipseofthedawn-jf8wm]

51:08 Seth forgot to gain life of the deep cavern bat

[@vivecanada1]

Judge! Attacking a player and attacking a planeswalker are different.

[@jameshansen2668]

Jund is not a “bad” deck, it is good because of its versatility in a particularly combo or aggro centric metagame. Jund has always struggled against slower more value oriented fair (or unfair) decks.

[@Zarbon000]

This Jund deck has 10 years of cardpool to choose from. Seth’s deck has 3 years. 10 years should steamroll 3 years. But here the 3 year deck goes toe to toe with it. It is surprising that this is so. It illustrates the power creeep.