2015 National Conference Championship Arizona Rattlers at San Jose SaberCats

[@joesakic91]

I argue that the San Jose Sabercats-Arizona Rattlers was the best rivalry in Arena Football League history.

[@FrankieP.]

It totally was. I look forward to seeing if it rekindles when Arizona starts playing the Oakland Panthers.

[@joesakic91]

@@FrankieP. Well, the San Francisco Bay Area has a new indoor football team and it's the Bay Area Panthers who played their first full season in 2022. However, the Panthers won their first game, but lost the last 15. That being said, Darren Arbet is coaching the Panthers in Season 2 taking over for Kurt Bryan. Guess who Arbet's first game back in the Indoor Football League is against in 2023: Kevin Guy and the Arizona Rattlers.

[@Mancada100]

What a thriller of a game! A real shotout. I wish the Sabercats were still going on..

[@joesakic91]

Well, indoor football is back in the Bay Area, but it will be in the Indoor Football League with the Bay Area Panthers at the Shark Tank coming in 2022.

[@kingmo8789]

I miss the Sabercats.

[@joesakic91]

​@@kingmo8789I do too. But a new chapter was written at the Dollar Loan Center in the Las Vegas, Nevada suburb of Henderson last week: the Bay Area Panthers won the 2023 IFL National Championship title over the Sioux Falls Storm.

[@Eyrothath]

This league needs to hold their teams hostage and then they need to go on national television throughout Fox, NBC and CBS..

[@RileyDude27]

I still watch this and go why would you kick that......better chance at hail mary

[@joesakic91]

Especially when the net is in play.

[@arizonarattlerfan6039]

,Good Game

[@Dantheman19961-e]

No it wasn't!

[@kingmo8789]

@@Dantheman19961-e somebody's salty.

[@tigerguy1013]

@@kingmo8789 dude he’s STILL bitching about it to this day

[@clintnix]

51 washing machines, 111s Ventura CA players casino, waxman digital ads

[@joesakic91]

2:07:47 People can talk about the yellow goal line, but it's actually the white goal line on the field. The ball got at least a piece of the white goal line before the ball came out of Reggie Gray's hands. Call stands. Touchdown. Same rule applies to Arena Football with college and the NFL: if the ball gets a piece of the white goal line with possession before losing control, then it's a touchdown. But it shouldn't came down to that for the Arizona Rattlers since they left four extra points on the table.

[@joesakic91]

It looked like the ball got a piece of the goalline when Reggie Gray still had possession and then the ball came out. As long as the ball gets a piece of the goalline while having possession, it's a touchdown.

[@Dantheman19961-e]

"Ball is out right there and that is not at that line" GTFO

[@joesakic91]

@@Dantheman19961-e But maybe the ball got a piece of the white goal line and it came out. Call stands. Touchdown. BTW, the Arizona Rattlers shouldn't have come down to that call had they made four more extra points: an interception on a two-point conversion and two missed extra points with one blocked by Donte Paige-Moss. Sorry.

[@tigerguy1013]

joesakic91 he’s still salty about a game that happened five years ago. I bet he’ll be butt hurt ten years from now

[@joesakic91]

@@tigerguy1013 Dan Woodwick might be butthurt forever.

[@tigerguy1013]

@@joesakic91 quite possibly

[@boise8843]

God such a great game.

[@Logan_Zimmerman]

Attendance for this playoff game was 6,456 fans.

[@tigerguy1013]

Thank you San Jose, you beat the team I hate more than donald trump

[@Erlov71]

Who has the rights to bring back the sabercats?

[@joesakic91]

No clue. But it's all about the Bay Area Panthers in the Indoor Football League.

[@Erlov71]

@@joesakic91 yea i just wish they were the San Jose Panthers.

[@firef1yserenity]

"The ball is out right THERE AND THAT IS NOT AT THAT LINE"

[@joesakic91]

But the ball crossed the white goal line or got a piece of the white goal line in the field of play. Touchdown.

[@tigerguy1013]

@@joesakic91 that’s the problem with that camera angle, there was no way they’d be able to tell unless the camera was right across

[@tigerguy1013]

Ari was stupid, that was Eric Meyer's second arena bowl title, first with Spokane Shock and the second with San Jose

[@superduperm1]

Kevin Guy looks extra ticked after the intercepted two-point conversion. Did the offense do something wrong there? Looks more to me like Fred Obi just made a great play (which the SaberCats defense was overdue for)

[@tigerguy1013]

Your team just got stopped from getting two extra points, of course he’s extra ticked

[@joesakic91]

The Arizona Rattlers left four extra points on the table in this game. That's why they lost to the San Jose Sabercats.

[@marksawaz]

Do you have Week 20 Portland @ AZ CBS Sports game by chance?

[@Dave-vb3lh]

sorry I do not

[@nickroy5225]

I hope you will be uploading arena bowl xxviii soon

[@Dave-vb3lh]

it is I'll check to see why it can't be viewed because I put both games up, Did you try clicking twice on this game that should change it into 2 games to chose from

[@McNugget2002]

it's funny how happy sabercats are even though they know that they obviously lost

[@McNugget2002]

and I lost all the respect for purify

[@McNugget2002]

Lol yeah true its just to bad

[@joesakic91]

+John WhiteChocalate Mcknight It's also too bad that the Rattlers didn't score four extra points: 2 PAT missed (one blocked) and one interception off a two-point conversion attempt.

[@McNugget2002]

yeah i think i saw that lol

[@joesakic91]

firef1yserenity Oh come on. It was a great game between two rivals that could've went either way. Unfortunately, the missed extra points cost the Arizona Rattlers against the San Jose Sabercats.

[@phxmaster9684]

Where’s the saber cats now ?

[@erich84502ify]

Out of business

[@kingmo8789]

@@erich84502ify but why?

[@tigerguy1013]

Card Man because they knew they were gonna caught cheating to the top so they got out when they could

[@kingmo8789]

@@tigerguy1013 oh. What?

[@joesakic91]

@@tigerguy1013 Actually, the San Jose Sabercats folded due to non-football related reasons and the Fry family were more concerned about the rampant instability that had prevailed in the league since it returned to the field. www.eastbaytimes.com/2015/11/13/afl-announces-arenabowl-champ-san-jose-sabercats-folding/ www.sanjoseinside.com/news/san-jose-sabercats-owners-call-it-quits-due-to-afl-dysfunction/

[@brandonjackson746]

upload the arena bowl dude

[@Dave-vb3lh]

It is, click the video it should split in to two games. FYI I'm the 2015 millionth fan they show in 3 qtr, but then they zoom to the guy behind me, when my name is 1st shown it is on me, then camera person screwed up but it's cool ESPN dudes were tal;king about me on national TV, kinda cool

[@brandonjackson746]

go sacats

[@brandonjackson746]

***** im a sabercats fan, and I heard you disagreed with that last call.

[@firef1yserenity]

+Brandon Jackson To say that was the "right" call just proves how much you didn't pay attention to the replay. If that moron Reggie Smith actually looked at the replay he would overturn that call.

[@brandonjackson746]

firef1yserenity no f the rattlers no 1 likes them, y? CUZ ITS ALL ABOUT THE CATS BITCH!!

[@brandonjackson746]

LOL!!

[@firef1yserenity]

+Brandon Jackson YOU CAN SUCK IT DOUCHE!!!

[@Dave-vb3lh]

Once the tip of the ball goes over the "plain" of the goal line the play is OVER. TOUCHDOWN, the player nor all of the football has to completely cross the goal line just break the plain. mAZ fans have always been CRY BABIES deal with it

[@Dantheman19961-e]

2:08:58 video evidence

[@joesakic91]

Unfortunately, the Rattlers lost because they left four extra points on the table.

[@tigerguy1013]

Keep whining, they’re not gonna do anything about it now

[@franklinclinton3476]

Sabercats are going to repeat in 2016

[@franklinclinton3476]

***** no duh they folded

[@Dave-vb3lh]

They wood have. What went down really sucked when I read about it online I was shocked was sudden, shoot they were only back for 4 yrs after the 1 yr for all but 2 yrs for SaberCats layoff, would like to know why they were out for 2 yrs

[@tigerguy1013]

90% of these comments are Dan Woodwick bitching and moaning

[@jakereiss6816]

montana of the a f l

[@tigerguy1013]

39:33 he said flopped 😂😂

[@GoatedGamer-eq9yn]

He did not have full peseshion with the ball when he and the ball crossed the goaline

[@joesakic91]

+dan theman Well, that's the breaks and the San Jose Sabercats took advantage.

[@Dantheman19961-e]

It was a fumble.

[@joesakic91]

@@Dantheman19961-e Unfortunately, the call stands.

[@Dantheman19961-e]

@@joesakic91 no it doesn't dumbass

[@tigerguy1013]

Dan Woodwick “after further review, the ruling on the field stands, touchdown”

[@Dantheman19961-e]

Rattlers 5 titles, CheaterCats 3

[@Dave-vb3lh]

FOUR

[@tigerguy1013]

Arizona was the same, the cheated every game

[@Dantheman19961-e]

@@tigerguy1013 NEVER CHEATED. GET THE FUCK OUT, DUMBASS

[@tigerguy1013]

Dan Woodwick sorry not sorry you don’t like the facts. Don’t like it, then fuck off

[@firef1yserenity]

Anthony Herron said that the camera angle is a good one. LIES LIES LIES!! YEAH RIGHT! SURE IT'S A GOOD ANGLE- IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE THE WORST ANGLE EVER IN PROVING THAT GRAY DIDN'T REACH THE END ZONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@MystrK]

The botched last call is part of the reason why the AFL will fold within the next 10 years. I have no love for either team and could care less who went to the Arena Bowl, but I just want it to be the right team, and in this case it was not.

[@joesakic91]

+Drew Kostelnik Unfortunately for the Rattlers, it shouldn't came down to that. They missed four extra points: 2 PAT missed (one blocked) and one interception off a two-point conversion attempt.

[@firef1yserenity]

+nfl_nhl_king With the angle that they had it was clear that is wasn't a TD AT ALL!!!! I WILL HATE REGGIE GRAY FOR AS LONG AS HE'S A REF

[@joesakic91]

firef1yserenity Well, the refs weren't the ones who left four extra points on the table without gobbling them up. It was the Arizona Rattlers.

[@joesakic91]

+dan theman Oh please. It shouldn't came down to the final drive for the Rattlers. Make those extra points, the Rattlers would've been in Arena Bowl 28. Too bad.

[@Dave-vb3lh]

the best team went & the best team WON

[@marqstheman]

He clearly fumbles before he crosses the goal line. My SaberCats got away with a huge call. I remember cheering my head off for this but he clearly was losing the ball looking back.

[@joesakic91]

2:07:47 disagrees with you. The same rule in college and the NFL applies to Arena Football: if the ball gets a piece of the white goal line on the field with possession before losing control, then it's a touchdown.

[@Dantheman19961-e]

CheaterCats CheaterCats CheaterCats CheaterCats

[@tigerguy1013]

Keep whining

[@Dantheman19961-e]

@@tigerguy1013 Get your eyes checked, dumbass

[@joesakic91]

@@Dantheman19961-e You need to see a shrink since you can't take the L.

[@tigerguy1013]

@@Dantheman19961-e you’re the one who can’t see. If you knew ANYTHING about football you’d know that if there not enough evidence to overturn a ruling then they can’t change it. If they had a shit from down the goal line then it would be easier to tell but that’s what happens when you don’t have enough cameras so stfu and deal with it

[@leadingham3000]

Ok if this is football what is rugby that a sport no padding just a tiny ass hat that they wear and all muscle puts afl and nfl to shame my friend plays rugby

[@Dave-vb3lh]

rugby is an awesome sport played some in High School til the district put as stop to it, that is a sport that the weak are eliminated very quickly

[@Dantheman19961-e]

2:06:15 FUMBLE

[@joesakic91]

@Dan Woodwick Nope. 2:07:47 The ball got a piece of the white goal line before it came out. Call Stands. Touchdown. Same rule applies to Arena Football with college and the NFL: if the ball gets a piece of the white goal line with possession before losing control, then it's a touchdown.

[@tigerguy1013]

@@joesakic91 you also can’t tell from that angle whether the ball was there or not. If there’s not concrete evidence to overturn a ruling the ruling on the field will stand

[@firef1yserenity]

IT WAS OBVIOUS AND REGGIE SMITH AKA The worst ref in the world CALLED THAT A TD??????I HOPE YOU GET FIRED

[@joesakic91]

White goal line + ball grabbed a piece of the white goal line on the field = touchdown.

[@christophervalentino6692]

Taking my bias as a life long Rattlers Fan out of it this was and still is to me to this day The WORST F***ING CALL IN ARENA LEAGUE HISTORY. BIGGEST SCREW JOB I' VE EVER SEEN.

[@Dantheman19961-e]

Heck yes!!

[@Dantheman19961-e]

Reggie Smith: I screwed up an obvious call against Arizona United Bowl ref Jim Schaefer: I can beat that. I screwed up 3 obvious calls and screwed the Rattlers out of a perfect season.

[@joesakic91]

But it shouldn't came down to Reggie Gray's controversial touchdown had the Rattlers converted four more extra points they left on the table.

[@tigerguy1013]

@@Dantheman19961-e if you were a referee you would understand why he had to make the call the way he did. Since you don’t have the mentality to become a referee just shut up and stop bitching about a game that happened 6 years ago

[@joesakic91]

@christophervalentino6692 2:07:47 The ball grabbed a piece of the white goal line on the field. It's the same rule that applies to the NFL and college. Call stands. Touchdown.

[@Dantheman19961-e]

Reggie Smith will be played by Stevie Wonder. #youreblind

[@tigerguy1013]

You think you can do better? Put up or shut up, become a referee then you can make the calls

[@Dantheman19961-e]

The time keeper was terrible. San Jose "scores" with 11 seconds, and the guy winds it to 8.

[@Soulrunners1Freerun]

Rattlers got screwed over.

[@Dantheman19961-e]

Yes we did

[@tigerguy1013]

Soulrunners1Freerun guess they learned how other teams felt when Arizona would be on the right side of bad calls

[@kingmo8789]

@@tigerguy1013 karma is a b***h. Right?

[@joesakic91]

But those four extra points the Rattlers left on the table cost them even more.

[@tigerguy1013]

@@kingmo8789 karma for what? That statement is completely out of context