2015 WRX Water/Meth Modification

[@HectorZeroni801]

3:15 power gains

[@MrSKlim]

Yeah, I went from 335i and heard lots of positive about meth kid when it comes to the carbon build up during my ownership. Never got around to getting a kit, but I'm definitely going to for my WRX.

[@dwelker284]

Sasha Klim back when I was looking at purchasing a 135i everyone was running meth. That's what started me down the path of meth injection. Seemed like with direct injection it is a must. I'm very happy with my decision.

[@MrSKlim]

Derek Welker You say it lasts you 2 weeks or so, how often to you "drive with spirit" as to say? I'm pretty rough on my car, I won't even lie lol.

[@dwelker284]

Sasha Klim I just top off the tank every two weeks or so. It's not near empty at all. I drive pretty slow most of the time but get on it often. It'll last awhile that's for sure.

[@nwbklr]

Why not run both? It’s ideal.

[@sniperbadford781]

Great video. I am going to be running this kit as well very soon. I'm just curious what parts you purchased out side of the AEM kit? Switches or fail safes of any kind?

[@dwelker284]

Tbradford97 switch and failsafe were purchased. Check the link in the description which will lead you to my nasioc thread.

[@jetbike97]

is it reliable ? I have a 16 wrx and I commute a decent bit with work and really want to build a perfect daily driver

[@dwelker284]

jetbike97 so far it's been reliable. I haven't had any issues.

[@Munther95]

i have the aquamist HFS4 kit tuned on ECUtek with 5 on the fly switchable maps. typical stage 2 setup with tgv, egr & intercooler. -without meth on 90oct : 243whp/251whp @ 14.5psi 253whp/267wtq @ 19psi -with meth on 90oct : 270whp @ 14.5psi 290whp/300wtq @ 19psi 310whp/330wtq detuned for rods longevity to 306whp/300wtq @ 21.7psi 75% methanol (VPRacing M1) / 25% distilled water by volume. I really like the car.

[@dwelker284]

must be a very low reading dyno. My car was 305/315 on 93 with no meth and 354/356 with 50/50 water/meth. I really like the methanol injection on the car.

[@Munther95]

Derek Welker well yeah i've been told that a lot thats why i had the numbers without meth in my comment, gain is what matters , final numbers can be misleading because different dynos read different . 50whp gain is healthy for this kind of setup .

[@Munther95]

Derek Welker nice setup btw i have seen the thread on nasioc a while ago and also the post on Instagram by brentuning. good job!

[@dwelker284]

Absolutely! 50whp gain is pretty standard and thats all that matters. Thanks for the kind words.

[@kylem7507]

You should make a video displaying your set up. Describing what you did to install switch and fail safe light. This video is awesome tho. Set up is crazy on the Nasioc thread. Definitely inspired me to want to run this set up.

[@dwelker284]

Unfortunately, I no longer have the car so I cannot do something like that. Thanks for checking it out though.

[@alexgodfry3190]

Do you have an install video up?

[@brandonspreiter1729]

Did you get a tune too? If not you are making less power. You have to run leaner and advance timing too get any gains from the meth injection

[@dwelker284]

Of course I got a tune. Power jumped about 50whp with meth.

[@yuliya56100]

I ordered a snow stage 3 kit for my 15 srt... I have ar headers, diablo T 1000 with new ecm, kw v2 275fand 305 R nitto n555r, and hoping to get a few extra horses on NA engine... I have 530 at crank now and 450 at wheels,. Would be nice to have 480 at wheels... Next year whipple 2.9, forged pistons and rods and 12 lbs boost and keeping the meth system... Thanks for the video!!

[@MrFahnatic]

More videos coming? Debating on the meth kit. Would probably just put boost juice in it.

[@dwelker284]

MrFahnatic absolutely. What videos would you like to see? Boost juice is very nice but I wanted to mix my own. Much cheaper that way.

[@MrFahnatic]

your mod overview and what you like about the mods you have and what you might have done differently. Ive been stuck at stage 2 for a while now and I am curious about other peoples opinions on their mods. But id watch your videos as long as a subaru is in at some point lol

[@dwelker284]

MrFahnatic I have a video on that. Stage 2 review should cover everything

[@JK19777]

Hey Derek..Good video my man!! ❤️ So what car did you end up getting?

[@dwelker284]

I got an Infiniti Q50 just as a daily and at the time I was driving a lot for work. Now I don’t drive as much and wish I still had the WRX, only if I didn’t get in an accident with it.

[@LastHumansGarage]

that car looks fast

[@dwelker284]

Thanks! It is definitely faster than it was by a long shot.

[@shakultra]

Can your friend make me the bracket? I'll buy.

[@shakultra]

Or let me know how to make it myself

[@dwelker284]

We fabricated it using the car itself, no measurements. So we would need another car to make it work. I don’t have the car any more so I can’t use it. Any fabricator should be able to make something for you.

[@shakultra]

@@dwelker284 Ok gotcha, I appreciate you and the fast response. I swear It feels like I never get youtube comment notis I always manually check.

[@Johannes00]

Have you tried Snow Performance's "Boost Juice"?

[@dwelker284]

Johannes nope. It works well from what I've heard but I prefer to mix my own because it's significantly cheaper. Also I can up the methanol mixture doing it myself.

[@Johannes00]

Alright, but thanks for the reply. Keep chasing your dreams man!

[@surfjujitsu2456]

How did you mount or install the spray nozzle. Did you weld the bung?

[@dwelker284]

Grimmspeed TMIC has a bung for meth built in.

[@surfjujitsu2456]

@@dwelker284 awesome thank you

[@surfjujitsu2456]

I have a fmic anything for a fmic

[@eddiestsla]

Saw your 5-gal tank install and loved it! Would love to get that same bracing.....would you buddy make another one?

[@dwelker284]

He probably would but we no longer have the Subaru's so he would need a car to make it on.

[@eddiestsla]

Derek Welker ahh no worries. I ended up just doing the 1-gal now and mounted using the seat......what did you end up with next?

[@ALT3REDB3AST]

Daaaaaamn!!! Nice! Think I'll still be going the e85 route though. .....or not! Hmmmm.

[@dwelker284]

ALT3REDB3AST I prefer meth myself for this platform. Anything else I would recommend E85.

[@_inactiveshooter]

ALT3REDB3AST delecious tuning just made a flex fuel kit

[@dwelker284]

Quinn CTS-V// they have had it out for awhile. There is still an issue with the HPFP and straight E85 so that's why I didn't do it.

[@_inactiveshooter]

Derek Welker. im full e85 i just use the lucas oil additive every other tank its heen 9k miles

[@deathangela01]

Hey so two questions for the boost line where did you tap into? And yellow wire did you go from battery than wire in a switch or did you use another 12v source

[@dwelker284]

deathangela01 I had a TGV delete from PRL which had a port that I referenced for the meth kit. It’s typically used for a boost gauge but I used it for the meth. I didn’t wire in from the batter. I used a fuse tap to get keyed power and ran it to a switch. That way you don’t have to wire as much.

[@deathangela01]

Derek Welker hey did you use the medium nozzle which was 500cc or bigger or smaller

[@dwelker284]

deathangela01 500cc was what I ended up using.

[@michaelescosio3191]

After you installed the water/meth kit did you have it tuned?

[@dwelker284]

Michael Escosio of course.

[@nabatron21]

Dude where u at need some answers on the Cusco LSD

[@dwelker284]

Nabil P you can e-mail me at [e-mail]

[@1320mm]

Working on this same install now. Where did you tap the boost hose for controller?

[@dwelker284]

From the TGV deletes. My TGV delete had a 1/8NPT tap for a boost gauge so I tapped right in there.

[@1320mm]

Derek Welker thanks that helps a lot. Will have to drill and tap mine but like that better than a tee.

[@rempwnz]

what're your thoughts on the nameless bpv? is an aftermarket bpv necessary with the mods you have?

[@dwelker284]

I like the nameless but most people just buy the boomba. I believe it is necessary as the stock unit naturally leaks and does not have a large diaphragm.

[@rempwnz]

thanks for your input

[@duevebravo2]

hey what engine maganment are you running. im about to install an aquamist kit and i have a cobb v3 ap and i dont know if failsafes can be implemented with the accessport can

[@dwelker284]

Im running an accessport. The failsafe is not implemented with the accessport but rather up to the meth kit. The AEM kit has a failsafe wire that you can run to a relay. Aquamist I believe has you wire into the factory harness and it has internal failsafes built in.

[@comonerleon]

Where do you buy the m1 meth I have seen several online that with shipping it increases the cost to over 100$

[@dwelker284]

You have to buy it locally otherwise it can be pretty expensive due to hazmat charges.

[@fastlanelife3218]

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[@dwelker284]

Fastlanelife32 I know. Photobucket changed their policy in embedding images. You can email me for the pictures.

[@edwardli5910]

What would you say your 0-60 is? Want to create a build that would hang or take a model 3

[@dwelker284]

Edward Li probably sub 4 seconds. I never timed it. I’m sure someone else has. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was in the 3 seconds with a good launch.

[@edwardli5910]

Derek Welker Thank you!

[@WelcometoLucaSh]

Do you think you will bother with a AOS now that you have the meth ?

[@dwelker284]

lucas brett no probably not. There is absolutely no oil or anything on the hot side or intercooler and my car doesn't smoke. I think I'm fine without it.

[@WelcometoLucaSh]

yeah nice. did you look much at other brands for meth other then AEM? do you think aquamist is worth the cost ? thanks

[@dwelker284]

lucas brett I looked at the aquamist kit for a little bit because of the failsafes but once I saw the install instructions I was completely turned off. It's 10x harder to install than the AEM kit and $300 more. After talking with BrenTuning they recommended the AEM kit and told me they have never had an issue with it. It's been fine for me so far.

[@WelcometoLucaSh]

thanks thats interesting food for thought. in the case of a complete failure of the meth system im curious to what would happen... would the outcome really be that catastrophic to need so many fail-safes? hmm

[@dwelker284]

lucas brett the computer should adjust and pull timing. You would see high values if feedback and fine knock but depends on what you were doing it should be fine.

[@sergsrt8]

Is it safe to run? What happens if the system fails?

[@nwbklr]

Quality kits come with redundancies and fail safes. Completely safe.

[@seanallred8193]

Hey Derek! I have a 2016 WRX Protuned with just your basic Stage 2 Kit, A&O Seperator.. Anyway! I was curious if I were to buy the kit, and install it. is there any other supporting mods that I have to install in order to keep the car safe and reliable? Sounds total badass and worth the $ but how safe is it? and whats your Blow of valve brand? sounds clean!

[@dwelker284]

Sean Allred you really just need a tune. It's obviously going to produce more power so there is always a risk. But with a good safe tune there is nothing to worry about. Except your clutch, your clutch will hate you and need to be replaced much sooner than before. I have a nameless BPV.

[@mitchwilliams8096]

Hey just got a aqua mist meth kit did you do your own instal and if so how hard was it and can I have a mod list thanks man

[@dwelker284]

Mitch Williams mod list is in the description. I did my own install and it wasn't bad. The aquamist kit is very different than the AEM one and much harder to install.

[@ravilsnitko6757]

hey i live in your area and i was wondering where do you go to tune your car?

[@dwelker284]

I go to BrenTuning in Massachusetts. Totally worth the drive.

[@ravilsnitko6757]

is there somebody there specific who you prefer?

[@dwelker284]

There is only one tuner there. If you want to get tuned by them you can call and talk to Chris, tell him I recommended you go there. You wont be disappointed.

[@ravilsnitko6757]

ok thanks for your help!

[@diegosti9741]

any issues bro?

[@dwelker284]

Issues with what?

[@diegosti9741]

@@dwelker284 the meth kit bro .

[@cecilbermudez8679]

This on a stock turbo?

[@dwelker284]

Cecil Bermudez yup. Stock turbo.

[@ianwalter3349]

Isn't methanol much more corrosive than E85?

[@dwelker284]

Ian Walter they are pretty close because they are both considered alcohols. Only difference is you don't put methanol in the gas tank like you do ethanol. Methanol is contained in its own system that uses corrosion resistance lines so it's not harmful to the car like ethanol can be.

[@Dave-so7sf]

So I as well have a 2015 WRX protuned by BrenTuning. I'm thinking about trying to increase my power to roughly what your putting down. Have you found any weak links yet? How's the stock clutch holding up?

[@dwelker284]

David Barrett the clutch was definitely the weak link. It started slipping shortly after. It made it to 28k but I'm pretty happy about that as other people with less power have had clutch problems. I upgraded recently and it's been fine since.

[@Dave-so7sf]

Derek Welker Lol I've been waiting for the clutch slippage. Ive been at stage 1 since 3000 miles, now at 29,000 271whp 269wtq. I've been telling myself all the people with clutch problems are just young kids that just don't know how to drive standard. This makes me feel better :). Well looks like I'm doing a clutch too along with the other mods. What did you go with for a clutch? Do you like it?

[@dwelker284]

David Barrett you're exactly right though. Mostly people who don't know how to drive. I was surprised mine lasted as long as it did since I was stage 2 since 6k. I went with the ACT HD-SS and lightweight flywheel. It's not too bad. I'm going to make a video at some point about it.

[@STI_awd]

do you need a tune for this?

[@dwelker284]

STI_awd 2016 yes.

[@STI_awd]

i was just wondering cause you said it only kicks in at 10lb of boost.Didnt reallly know how that would work. just bouht a 16 sti new to the subie world and its my first turbo

[@dwelker284]

STI_awd 2016 everything under 10psi is untouched. Everything above that is changed. Congrats on the new car.

[@wholetur4947]

was the 302/350 numbers with IC and water/meth? or just water/meth? I havent seen gains that big from water/meth unless its a high comp NA engine

[@dwelker284]

whole tur I was 305/315 without the grimmspeed TMIC and meth. 354/355 with the intercooler and water/meth. Gains of 40whp are common for this car.

[@subifan3929]

I would like to see pics of the water/meth setup on ur car.

[@dwelker284]

Go to my Instagram and scroll down a bit. Unfortunately there arent any pictures in the NASIOC thread anymore.

[@subifan3929]

@@dwelker284 i saw a pic of the trunk but nothing under the hood.

[@mariuszpachowski288]

Will this work with stock TMIC or charge pipe or exhaust?

[@dwelker284]

Mariusz Pachowski it will work with stock everything but you will need to tap a bung into the stock intercooler. Probably won't see the gains I do being stage 2 but you can still do it.

[@pebblez_]

ok nvm 3:00 mark

[@10secdream]

Local tuner installed water meth on his 2015 WRX and it is definitely helping to keep the valves clean. www.westernsubaruclub.com/smf/index.php?topic=41830.125

[@dwelker284]

Thanks for posting that! Very good information. Makes me even happier I decided on meth.

[@10secdream]

No problem man. Huge fan of your build and the direction you went with it. My mod list will probably be pretty similar down the road.

[@dwelker284]

Thank you very much! Let me know if you have any questions.

[@10secdream]

You have the Grimspeed TMIC installed also correct? If so you should update the mod list.

[@dwelker284]

I do. I just updated the mod list. Thanks!

[@SIRICKO]

Water/meth hands down over e85!!!!!!! all around better.

[@TJShoop]

This is awesome! I have a 2015 wrx as well! I am just starting a channel and would love the support if you don't mind checking it out!!

[@dougalsmith7795]

Damn meth addicts! I decided to go this route vs E85 also.

[@pebblez_]

im slow does it give u boost?lol

[@dwelker284]

no. It gives you the ability to run more boost though.