2016 Nissan Titan XD Diesel Real World Highway & Towing MPG Review

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( www.TFLtruck.com ) The 2016 Nissan Titan XD Diesel is a towing machine. In this TFLtruck video MPG test. We drive the 2016 Nissan Titan XD on a cold Colorado day on TFL's 100 mile test loop to find out the Highway MPG and the Highway Towing MPG of the new truck in real world testing.
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@ppha7665
@ppha7665 8 жыл бұрын
So many haters out.....that's why there's options out there. Go buy the truck/car/SUV u want. This is just a insightful MPG review on a truck that ppl may be interested in purchasing.
@jameshenson4871
@jameshenson4871 8 жыл бұрын
+P Pha I agree. People complaining about the price never intended on purchasing the vehicle anyway. Also so many people are closed minded. I believe Nissan completely nailed the mark of what they were trying to achieve. Can an F150 tow 11,500 lbs? Sure but how well does it do it in all areas. How will the Ecoboost stay together after towing years like this? Just like anything else there are many questions which people are asking for a new platform but to say it is a piece of junk would be premature. The engine, transmission, frame, brakes are all designed with the torque of a diesel in mind. So in theory it should stay together well. If it is built anything like a the rest of Nissan trucks then it will be rock solid. These same people complaining are probably the ones when the Ecoboost pulls state that it is a piece. All manufacturers have issues- GM has issues with the displacement on demand wiping the lifters out, camshaft and wasting the bottom end of the engines-just recently MT had reported several technology issues with the GMC had to go back to the dealer several times. Ford has issues with Ecoboost ejecting rods out of the side of the engine-who really runs 87 octane in boosted truck? If you can't afford to put fuel in it then you can afford the vehicle. Ram is plagued with quality issues. Old Titan & Toyota has bad fuel Economy, the list goes on. I work in the automotive industry and I deal with these closed minded individuals everyday. Statements of I am going to buy a Chevy because it is the best. What? On what basis? The interior will fall apart after 100K, the buttons won't be able to be read at that time either due to them being worn off and also what about that LS tick? If that is what you like then who am I to say it is junky? I just won't buy that brand. I will vote with my wallet. I am willing to give this truck a chance in the future. The pricing is on par with all the other 1/2 ton trucks . Heck an Ecoboost FX4 in my area had a window sticker of $62K. Now down to reality they probably wasn't going to get it but still! $60K for a fully loaded Titan is definitely competitive. I am aware you can purchase a 3/4 ton for around mid 50's but some people aren't ready to make that jump. I am not so that is the reason for my consideration. Will this recipe fit others? They are the only ones who can answer that.
@cwyoming7004
@cwyoming7004 8 жыл бұрын
The looks of the truck are growing on me. Good work guys, and Happy New Year.
@superdan5617
@superdan5617 8 жыл бұрын
I liked this video, not because of the truck, but because you guys gave a great review. This was the first towing review that I've seen of the new Titan without Nissan reps present. I can really say that "I saw it first on the Fast lane Truck". Keep up the good work!
@pureblazin
@pureblazin 8 жыл бұрын
All you people worrying about gas mileage if you can't afford to fill the damn tank you shouldn't be driving a truck period. Why don't you wait and see how it handles heavy loads.
@ispeed1971
@ispeed1971 8 жыл бұрын
Great real world info guys , you are my number 1 source for unbiased fair comparisons and useful info , thanx for putting forth the effort to do the job right :)
@aapbishop6600
@aapbishop6600 8 жыл бұрын
Make a video comparing all the trucks, f-150, gm twins, tundra, ram, and Titan. Make it long , I don't care, I wanna see like stats side by side, compare the competitive equivalent trucks of the brands and show us what truck gives us the most bang for our buck.
@mhtl48
@mhtl48 8 жыл бұрын
Smh, all these comments about how inefficient this truck is. It was 13,250 lbs and returned 11 mpg. That's damn good! The 6.2 chevy was 12,000 lbs and got 10.5 mpg on premium gas. This is the most efficient "1/2 ton" truck period!
@timothyparks2531
@timothyparks2531 5 жыл бұрын
Truck was getting 19 mpg then to 14 mpg. It went thru a exhaust regen. In other words it dumps fuel in the exhaust to heat it up for the DPF cleaning. This only happens a few times every 1000 miles. But you do lose fuel economy for about 20 miles.
@888TopGear888
@888TopGear888 8 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, I don't own a truck or a trailer but I really don't understand what all the fuss is about over mpg? Lets say you're going on a 500 mile journey, towing your boat or horse trailer or whatever. At 11 mpg you'll need 45 gallons to complete your journey, at 17 mpg you'll need 29 gallons. Thats a 16 gallon difference. At an average diesel fuel cost of $2 in the US, that'll cost you $38. You have a $50,000 truck, a $5,000 trailer, and a $30,000+ boat, and you're complaining about $40 bucks of fuel?
@jimmycundiff5151
@jimmycundiff5151 8 жыл бұрын
60,000$ truck with a diesel that is expected to far surpass gasoline mpg....however it doesnt. so yeah we can nitpick. when gas goes back up we will be fucked.
@888TopGear888
@888TopGear888 8 жыл бұрын
+Jimmy Cundiff Again you're ignoring my initial statement. I have a friend who bought a $150,000 wake surfing boat. If he complains to me about mpg I will slap him in the face. He pays $200 to fill up the tank in his boat... so he can go surfing on a lake... If you have enough money to buy a toy or a huge 12,000 pound mobile home, you shouldnt be complaining over 30 dollars. You don't buy a diesel truck for the mpg, you buy it for its low end torque. And nothing from Ford has 550 lb ft of torque unless you buy a super duty with the 6.7 liter V8 that has over 800. But that thing gets 15 mpg when its not towing.. So it doesnt seem like the Nissan is as bad as everyone says it is.
@jimmycundiff5151
@jimmycundiff5151 8 жыл бұрын
+888TopGear888 I don't get how you can just throw MPG out of the window. it is a big decision maker in people buying these trucks. I have a $50k 2014 silverado, I tow my expensive ass motor cycles to the drag strip all the time and sometimes boats. do I care about MPG yep. just because your friend doesnt, doesn't mean other people dont. Every truck (besides Tundra) built today is built around getting good fuel mileage. Chevys displacement on demand. Dodges eco-diesel and their hemis displacement on demand. Fords ecoboost engines. and now Nissan built this truck "to have great fuel economy while towing" Those are words from Toyota marketing manager.
@jimmycundiff5151
@jimmycundiff5151 8 жыл бұрын
+Zachary Strain lead the pack in maybe performance but MPG was always terrible on the tundras. 4.30 gear, that's why. in 2007 Dodge and Chevrolet both had displacement on demand.
@888TopGear888
@888TopGear888 8 жыл бұрын
+Zachary Strain I never said mpg isn't at all important. Im saying that its moronic to judge trucks based of a bunch of numbers (highest torque/hp and best mpg) There is no point in watching a 15 minute video from a so-called "dedicated truck review channel" just to see what a truck's mpg is. Especially when at the end of the day, the difference is only 30-50 bucks on a 500 mile journey. If I were going to buy a truck, I'd care more about its performance, rather than its mpg. Things like: Which truck is the most confidence inspiring and stable when I'm towing 12,000 pounds and doing 70 mph? Which is the most nervous? Which has the best maneuverability and handling at high speed while towing a trailer (collision avoidance)? Which is the easiest to drive on a tight, uphill mountain road while towing a motor home? Which has the best traction control system and all wheel drive system? Which is the most capable offroad or in the snow while towing (towing snowmobiles)? I think the reason +The Fast Lane Truck isn't conducting these tests is because mpg is the easiest one.
@jimc.6127
@jimc.6127 6 жыл бұрын
Bought a 2017 5 liter Cummins Turbo 4×4 extra cab all leather with all the tech, whistles and bells 3 weeks ago. The truck feels like a 20 year relationship. Weather Tech on the way and front seat covers is on the list.
@DeviousWashere2
@DeviousWashere2 8 жыл бұрын
TFL needs to redo this test when the pumps are no longer selling winter diesel blend so that we can see fuel economy on 100% diesel. it should theoretically increase on summer diesel
@carnut9193
@carnut9193 8 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see what economy it would get if someone removed all the emissions bullshit from the engine and re-tuned it. I reckon it could do 5 - 8 mpg better.
@msrockyblue
@msrockyblue 8 жыл бұрын
I doubt it. I only picked up a couple on my 6.7PSD and my hp/tq to weight ratio is way better than the xd. It has a 3.92 rear gear, because they realized it's underpowered. Not much is going to help that truck.
@johnmatthew4308
@johnmatthew4308 8 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Nicholas Hydrocarbons and NOX Hydrocarbons = Unburned fuel (black smoke) ^ Typically a timing issue and/or injector issue NOX = Gas created during combustion event ^ Issue is emissions and is reduced significantly through diesel exhaust after treatment systems such as SCR or the One-box system. In any instance however, they didn't have pulse width modulation fuel injection years ago. The advancement od electronically-controlled injection aided to better performance, a more efficient burn during the combustion event, AND better emissions. On newer diesel engines, adding horsepower is as simple as connecting to the ECM and changing it. ***Note: Diesel engine manufacturers regulate engine horsepower based on the criteria of application. This is done to reduce damage to the drivetrain and chassis frame (specifically on HD trucks). When it comes down to fuel efficiency however, it boils down to power to weight to axle ratio.
@johnmatthew4308
@johnmatthew4308 8 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Nicholas I have a degree in, and work in the field of diesel technologies.
@johnmatthew4308
@johnmatthew4308 8 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Nicholas Sorry, I actually didn't read all of your posts. my comments were generalistic in nature and weren't aimed specifically at you rather, for the whole of the discussion. I apologize if you felt I was attacking you personally or thought I was intending to denigrate your intelligence. Not my intentions.
@johnmatthew4308
@johnmatthew4308 8 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Nicholas what's "TFL"?
@gabrieliannozzi7935
@gabrieliannozzi7935 8 жыл бұрын
I have the same blacked out 2015 RAM Cummins truck you guys ran the Gauntlet in last spring except it's 4x4. I can pull 19.5 mpg all day with the cruise at 73 mph. If I do speed limit I get 20.5 mpg. I drug my 26 ft, 6000 lb travel trailer from here in PA to right by you guys in Denver Colorado and I pulled 14.5 mpg the whole way out averaging between 55-75 mph the whole time. Mixed driving will net me 16- 18 mpg depending. You guys did the mpg test on that same truck and did better then me at your Altitude, granted it was 2x4 but still. I was actually considering one of these as my next truck simply because I don't pull more then 10-12k, my freaking ram is Mexican made and it's honestly a bit to much truck for a daily driver. But to see this it simply doesn't make any sense to down grade. Hopefully the production models do better
@HighwayDrive717
@HighwayDrive717 8 жыл бұрын
Nissan has done it!
@moparecodiesel
@moparecodiesel 8 жыл бұрын
This is the exact same fuel mileage on the titan shown here as my internal testing with all the new diesel trucks, except my ecodiesel, so this truck is right in line with all the heavy duty diesels. The 2015 cummins big horn got 11.5mpg average with my 7000lb trailer, The 2015 duramax ls 11.5mpg same 7000lb trailer 2014 ram ecodiesel 17mpg same 7000lb trailer $ 160,000 miles averaged Fuck ford. 2015 5.7l hemi 13mpg same 7000lb trailer 2015 5.3l gm ls direct injected gas 11.5mpg average same 7000lb trailer These are all the vehicles i rented for the two months my truck was down, so i calculated all the fuel mileages every night. The cummins and duramax tests were also done by two other route drivers renting those same 2015 models, @ 60mph so they were the same as my tests. Nice job nissan, truck looks nice.
@MrIbernie
@MrIbernie 8 жыл бұрын
+mopar ecodiesel (dotcom) Sounds like you got your truck back on the road. I follow you on your channel. So, how much did the bullet proofing cost you? So when the day is done do you think you have saved any money in the long haul by going with the diesel? Do you think the repairs and extra cost are justified by the gas savings?
@moparecodiesel
@moparecodiesel 8 жыл бұрын
+MrIbernie $1800. yes by far this truck is cheaper than the duramax or cummins in both repairs and fuel. i dont regret it
@AddingLifeAdventure
@AddingLifeAdventure 8 жыл бұрын
hopefully I get to touch and sit in the truck at the auto shows. The first Japanese (mostly American ) truck that has excited me. If for no other reason, it may be a game changer. Awesome time to truck guys.
@lkcampbell9795
@lkcampbell9795 8 жыл бұрын
I am glad that you showed us what kind of mileage the truck gets while not towing. Thank you. I wish you guys had done that with the 2016 Tacoma. The mileage while not towing was pretty bad, at least in my opinion. I would think that you could have done better (as far as MPG's) with a RAM 2500 with the Cummins diesel. And it would probably cost less. Great job.
@Fordguy1997
@Fordguy1997 8 жыл бұрын
Good quality video. Wondering why you guys didn't do the unloaded test with the Silverado and Tundra?
@MattSchmader
@MattSchmader 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the truck went through a light regen. If it's anything like my ram, it won't tell you it's doing it, you'll just get a little less milage for a bit. Great review TFL!
@mikeyswords11
@mikeyswords11 8 жыл бұрын
This truck is so nice
@jacobreed47
@jacobreed47 8 жыл бұрын
Andre!!! hello from Seattle WA.
@robgrune3284
@robgrune3284 8 жыл бұрын
list price for an XD with proper towing options is about $50-55k. not worth the price, when a similar optioned 3/4T lists for only 6% more, and gives more of everything for same mpg. Nissan needs to drop the price by $10-12k.
@781luis
@781luis 8 жыл бұрын
Not with the same features & ride quality.
@robgrune3284
@robgrune3284 8 жыл бұрын
+Rob Grune update. the new Ford F150 3.5L eco can be configured for 12k towing and greater payload than this XD, with very adequate HP and Torque, with equal or better mpg, no-rust body, etc, for about $10k less overall.
@V10PDTDI
@V10PDTDI 8 жыл бұрын
Hi guy's it would be nice that at the end of the video that the MPG results are posted so we can compare and also list the weight thanks.
@SwPiotrek
@SwPiotrek 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks! I wonder what mpg gets smaller EcoBoost in F150 and 3.0 diesel in Ram.
@patricknavarro2013
@patricknavarro2013 8 жыл бұрын
It would be great having a job like this!
@SubieandFriends
@SubieandFriends 8 жыл бұрын
I would love to have this job even if the money wasn't that much
@MiguelPerez-nk2wu
@MiguelPerez-nk2wu 8 жыл бұрын
Since this truck is in between 1500 and 2500 where will it be placed for the Hitch Award or is this still under discussion?
@donlyroberts
@donlyroberts 8 жыл бұрын
it will be interesting to see how the Titan does
@benigo15
@benigo15 8 жыл бұрын
6:49 why did you focus on the octane ratings for a diesel? Not trying to be a troll, just asking a question.
@johnmatthew4308
@johnmatthew4308 8 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that so many people here have made mention to poor fuel economy but forgot to take into consideration how much gear ratio effects fuel economy. I didn't hear them disclose any gear ratio whatsoever.
@4x4le
@4x4le 8 жыл бұрын
my 08 crew cab 4x4 duramax with larger mud tires does 20mpg on the hwy. emissions have ruined diesels (mine are removed)
@1guyin10
@1guyin10 8 жыл бұрын
+Brandon A friend's Ram 2500 Cummins was struggling to get 16 mpg on the highway. He pulled the emissions equipment out of it. Now he is getting 20-22 mpg. I'm not entirely convinced that burning half again as much fuel really saves any emissions.
@frankmagana1408
@frankmagana1408 8 жыл бұрын
What emissions items are their other than DEF systems. Cats?
@4x4le
@4x4le 8 жыл бұрын
1guyin10 you are correct in assuming this and a basic knowledge of chemistry destroys most arguments for having emissions equipment, at least in the context that its for climate change prevention. Any amount of fuel burnt creates a certain amount of co2, burning less creates less. So emissions regulations are "sold" to us or justified because the fear of global warming but they are intended to do other things. Visible emissions (black smoke) which are also part of HC (unburned hydrocarbons), NOx are the things that all the emissions equipment are meant to deal with however co2 and h20 emissions increase with decreased fuel economy. co2 and h20 is where any possibility of global warming or climate change comes from, which I am not totally sold on (quite the opposite actually) considering they are obviously being very misleading toward this entire thing anyways.
@4x4le
@4x4le 8 жыл бұрын
Frank Magana The high pressure common rail system in and of itself is an emission control device. I like many aspects of high pressure common rail but It would be very sweet to have mechanical options out there still. Take for instance a fully deleted 6.7 cummins and get a mpg figure then convert it over to a mechanical injection setup, you would not expect to see much change mpg wise. It could go up or down but it would most likely go up some. There would be more black smoke vs the deleted common rail setup too which is unburned fuel. So how is it not burning some of the fuel but getting better fuel economy? The high pressure common rail pump is a huge parasite. 26,000 psi of fuel pressure takes allot of engine work to accomplish. So although you are able to burn more of the fuel due to the higher pressure it reclaims that energy in order to make that pressure that it requires to operate. This creates more co2 and h20 (yes water) vs the old style system. They also have an egr system, which I am all for on a gas engine with a throttle plate because it actually reduces the pumping losses on those engines and gains it economy. An egr system is like a cancer to a diesel. Soot it trapped and released in places meant for nothing but clean air and air flow. The coolers are often problematic and the only real reason for them on a diesel is to reduce the NOx (which I agree NOx is bad) that was caused by other modern diesel emissions. Yes there is a cat, a diesel oxidation catalyst or usually referred to as a DOC. It works similarly to that on a gas car. Since CO is not a gas produced with diesels usually it is not needed for that function. They are not especially usefull at converting NOx either. The do take some of the unburned hc (raw fuel that didnt begin to burn and turn to black smoke) and burn it but that is usually a very low quantity and its easy to argue that its best to just leave that unburned. They also have diesel particulate filters (DPF) which trapps the black smoke which is actually soot. It is fuel that started to burn but then flamed out. It is said to cause cancer, and I agree that nothing but pure clean air is all our lungs are designed to handle, however there is actually NO science showing that diesel particulate causes cancer. The studies that have been performed show that in industrialized areas have a higher rate of the residents having cancer. The cause could be many things but in the studies they used the correlation equals causation method (which is almost always inaccurate) and decided to blame the fact that there are allot of diesel vehicles in those industrialized areas. Case closed since all they have to do is repeat it enough and make new laws (I mean regulations) that no one gets to vote on anyways. Once the DPF traps the soot and gets full, raw fuel is shot into the exhaust stream and other engine conditions are met allowing that fuel to ignite and the soot in the dpf is burned off. The raw fuel turns to co2 and h20 and the soot is mostly carbon as the hydrogen has burned off first. So mostly a bunch of co2 that never needed to be created is during that process. Also fuel that does not go to propelling the vehicle is being used. Now due to all the heat that is created by the backpressure of these emissions systems more nox than ever is being produced so they had to come up with something for that since nox is arguable the only thing to even be concerned with as far as diesel emissions go. So they have Diesel exhaust fluid or def or blue or whatever names it goes by. I am not against the use of this stuff. It isnt cheap but you dont use much so it is still economic. It really dont impact your fuel mileage because it is ran by electronics (which yes is driven off your engine) and is very low draw. It sprays to your exhaust stream and the ammonia that is released is able to react with nox and convert it to other non harmful combinations. If we could just have old style mechanical injection with water injection/water meth injection, along with vgt turbos or compound turbo setups and possibly even DEF injection in the exhaust we would have the cleanest, most fuel efficient and possibly even the most reliable engines (diesel or otherwise) that this world has ever seen. Sorry for being so long winded. I am passionate about this. I tune engines as a hobby now, used to be for a living, and seeing that all this shit is just a burden to us that actually creates a worse problem that it is tasked to solve in order to line the pockets of some leaves a horrid taste in my mouth.
@DeviousWashere2
@DeviousWashere2 8 жыл бұрын
+Frank Magana Brandon is right, egr and dpf are the big killers
@AKDurkee1
@AKDurkee1 8 жыл бұрын
The RPMs seemed pretty high for a diesel on the highway at just under 2k. Was it in tow mode or was the overdrive off? I would have anticipated it would have been chugging along at more like 1200 or 14000 rpm.
@Tonar18
@Tonar18 8 жыл бұрын
To be fair I do think they ran the Ram Ecodiesel and Ford 2.7 eco boost @ 65 mph instead of 70 mph like they are running now. Ram still would probably be in high 20's @ 70 mph. I hope the re-test trucks reviewed previously with new parameters so we have a fair assessment
@ispeed1971
@ispeed1971 8 жыл бұрын
Temperature for any vehicles I have owned has a huge effect on MPG , my 2007 Toyota Fj Cruiser would get 23 mpg in summer but as soon as the temp got below 32F that number would fall off a cliff usually 16 to 17 MPG , the same has been true for my 2014 Toyota Tundra 5.7 it gets 23 MPG summer and a dismal 16 to 17 MPG in winter same goes for our 2014 RAV4 it gets 33 MPG all summer long then 24 to 25 MPG in the winter months
@datboinumpad1715
@datboinumpad1715 8 жыл бұрын
im curious to see the difference with the added aero on the not pro4x models now. would be interesting to see if you could get one to test.
@jayman812008
@jayman812008 8 жыл бұрын
agree on the bad mpg. my lbz duramax gets 24 on the highway with 33" tires and some performance mods. and its a crewcab with an 8' bed
@scottlarson2865
@scottlarson2865 8 жыл бұрын
I expected mid 20's highway mpg like the Ram 1500 3.0L diesel, not worse mileage than a gas V8. Good job pulling that trailer at 70 mph in top gear. The Tacoma V6 was burning along at 4000 rpm and got 9 mpg with the same trailer.
@JoshJaster
@JoshJaster 8 жыл бұрын
So payload and towing numbers comparable to the F150 ecoboost max tow. Glad I made the decision to pull the trigger on my XLT. Was able to get out the door on an FX4 for far less than this PRO 4X. Also runs on cheaper fuel while achieving better mpg unloaded and comparable mpg towing. Tell me again the advantages to a Cummins for this application?
@joseduranjr4963
@joseduranjr4963 Ай бұрын
Were the seats comfortable driving the long haul
@Jeffo168
@Jeffo168 8 жыл бұрын
kind of low for a diesel. Although I'd like to see another test in warmer weather and in the standard non Pro 4x trim.
@randygrenon2779
@randygrenon2779 8 жыл бұрын
A very good video, good job. I enjoy it a lot.
@LR4TLC200
@LR4TLC200 8 жыл бұрын
Is your filming crew's car a Toyota Land Cruiser V8? BTW, The fuel consumption you're getting seems pretty poor, at least by Euro standards.
@oleglutsyk7542
@oleglutsyk7542 8 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the titian towing the same trailer as the eco-boost and siverado and tundra also ram ecodiesel and hemi that you guys tested at the Ike gotlet.
@jeffreff2000
@jeffreff2000 8 жыл бұрын
You never said how much weight was in the trailer?
@TFLtruck
@TFLtruck 8 жыл бұрын
5600 pounds
@xXBurntBaconXx
@xXBurntBaconXx 8 жыл бұрын
+The Fast Lane Truck I was expecting much Better MPG from a diesel truck like this. On Fulley, people are reporting 16-17mpg average (mix) with the Cummins 6.7L, which makes more power, tows more, higher payload, similar in size. You guys got 16.7mpg doing hwy only. Why would someone buy this when a 250/2500 series truck offers the same MPG, with more power and capability. Only thing I can think of is Price, not sure what the others would cost compared to this.
@arbiter1
@arbiter1 8 жыл бұрын
+The Fast Lane Truck So it gets 1mpg better then a 6.2 liter gas silverado? that is it? Power wise the 2 are not far off least on torque side.
@Terminxman
@Terminxman 8 жыл бұрын
+xXBurntBaconXx And the Titan XD isn't cheap, especially for a fucking nissan, almost $50k for a decent one
@xXBurntBaconXx
@xXBurntBaconXx 8 жыл бұрын
I was watching the same tow test they did with the 6.2L Silverado. Fully loaded it was also 50k. That got 10.1 MPG towing the same trailer on the same course. But the Silverado is going to be cheaper to run as its a gas motor, smaller so its easier to maneuver, it will probably hold its value a bit better. I'm pretty sure a Silverado with the 5.3L V8 would get the same MPG as the Titan towing the same load. If I was going to tow 12,000lbs daily, then I would go with a 2500 series truck with a diesel. If I'm going to tow 12,000 lbs once in awhile, then I would go with a regular 1/2 ton and save some money. The engine sounds pretty awesome on paper though, would be great to swap into Jeeps and off road vehicles. Or hell would be great to have in a Van/Box truck.
@dylanbuk7055
@dylanbuk7055 8 жыл бұрын
will you be doing large suvs again for the golden hitch awards
@EwokNubNub
@EwokNubNub 8 жыл бұрын
What can you do/what upgrades can you do to a truck with bad mpg(10-12 mpg)? 2003 Ford Ranger
@Mike-eh3ty
@Mike-eh3ty 8 жыл бұрын
When are you guys doing the Ike gauntlet test ??
@geno227200
@geno227200 8 жыл бұрын
Need to do this same test with a 2016 Ram EcoDiesel.
@AJmx2702001
@AJmx2702001 8 жыл бұрын
Real word testing needs a bit more running i think to get the best figures i would like to see the DEF ADblue use to along with MPG overall most diesels are 2-3% of MPG for DEF ADblue
@williamwarner3982
@williamwarner3982 8 жыл бұрын
Just a minor detail, slight gelling of diesel will negatively affect fuel milage. Did you put antigell in before fueling?
@joshuacornell6667
@joshuacornell6667 8 жыл бұрын
+William Warner, many diesel fuel suppliers already add in anti-gelling agent, far as I heard and know
@williamwarner3982
@williamwarner3982 8 жыл бұрын
Joshua Cornell Yeah, I have heard that as well. We professional drivers still have to put antigell in when Temps get below 25* . Especially since the switch to ultra low sulphur diesel. The veggie oil solidifies at a higher temp than diesel fuel. Just so you know. Take it from me, put antigell in when it gets cold anyway.
@joshuacornell6667
@joshuacornell6667 8 жыл бұрын
I am a CDL-A holder so yeah I put in additive when temps get to 15, so as not to overdue what is already in the fuel, And the truck I am assigned is going to sit for more than a half day shut down. I would do the same if I owned my own truck, add in a bit more at 25 or below, only as per manufacturer of additive states on their bottle and to that of what is Industry overall recommended. Otherwise if not having issues with fuel gelling up I do not bother with adding any extra if at all, not over-adding saves on money and keeps fuel efficiency to a higher than if you add ore than whats already in the fuel.
@tyrrellroach5872
@tyrrellroach5872 7 жыл бұрын
I’m confused why is I not rated by the EPA? Is it not a 1/2 ton I thought all 1/2 tons were rated by the EPA. With out the EPA rating makes me think it’s more of a med duty truck similar to a 3/4 or 1 ton
@cowboy19750
@cowboy19750 Жыл бұрын
The year is 2023 I have a 2016 titan have had for a year now when I brought it I got 9mpg to 10mpg streets and 12mpg to 15mpg also using fuel additive but how it sounded was sad and boring lol and had lots of issues with the DPF and lots of issues but after running with no DPF and adding some upgrades I get 16mpg to 18mpg on streets and 22mpg to 30mpg on highway
@bruiser6443
@bruiser6443 8 жыл бұрын
I am a lil confused when you said that for the gauntlet test for this truck you would be using a different trailor? how then will you be able to compare the other trucks to this one if you are using different trailors? for the silverado you used the same trailor with 9100 pounds.
@mattpitzer7145
@mattpitzer7145 8 жыл бұрын
+Blake Ringger my guess is that they will be using a goose neck trailer for the ike gauntlet. thats one thing that sets this truck apart from the other half ton models. but i am like you i want them to use the same trailer so i can decide whether the titan xd is better than a half ton trruck
@bruiser6443
@bruiser6443 8 жыл бұрын
+Matt Pitzer right on so basically it will be a pointless video as far as trying to compare it to all other half ton trucks! lol speaking common sense
@The_Opinion_of_Matt
@The_Opinion_of_Matt 8 жыл бұрын
Here is what I don't quite get. The diesel Titan XD Pro4X with a 4 door cab and 6.5 foot bed, weighs 7000 pounds, 4x4 w/ off road package,a Cummins 5.0 liter V8 with 310 hp and 555 lb/ft, a 6 speed transmission and 3.90 gears and it gets 17 mpg highway. My dad has a 2005 Dodge Ram 3500 (non-dually) with a 4 door cab and 6.5 foot bed, weighs 7000 pounds 4x4 w/ off road package, the 5.9 liter Cummins I-6 with 325 hp and 610 lb/ft, a 4-speed automatic and 4.10 gears, over 200k miles and it still gets 24 mpg on the highway. WHY? Why does a 10 year old truck with basically the same configuration and more power and fewer mpg saving features get so much better gas mileage? I could see them being a few mpgs difference, but 7mpg, that is almost 30%. (Edited to add gear ratio on Titan)
@ray4hire
@ray4hire 8 жыл бұрын
I did a 2008 ford 6.4l, head gaskets, arp studs, egr delete, dpf delete, and a spartan tuner. Slight adjustments to the fuel rails, stock cam and stock block. the truck made 706hp on the wheel dyno, and over 1400tq. customer daily drove and claimed his wife would get 31 U.S mpg and he would get 27. Thats tuning, and emissions B.S gone. We then did find the torque shift did have a weak spot. Input shafts would shatter. 4WD burn outs in a F-350 is pretty fucken fun though!!!
@AddingLifeAdventure
@AddingLifeAdventure 8 жыл бұрын
Hey guys. the TFLTRUCK web page is down. When do you expect it to be on line? I was looking at potential Detroit reveals.
@itsmepa2957
@itsmepa2957 8 жыл бұрын
also would be nice at the end of video to have a screen showing mpg breakdown.
@aaguzman20
@aaguzman20 8 жыл бұрын
not epa rating is technically a hd truck with a light frame?
@dougmartin8664
@dougmartin8664 6 жыл бұрын
What a dog! I used to get 19-21 on the highway with my modified 99' Dodge Ram 2500 diesel longbed -- with the awful 5 speed automatic. It was, however, chipped, 4 inch exhaust straight through, 354 rearend, 2 wheel drive. Towing, 12.2 or so.
@mhtl48
@mhtl48 8 жыл бұрын
That's a nice truck!
@grahamrothphotography
@grahamrothphotography 8 жыл бұрын
why not buy a 2500 truck diesel vs this? Similarly priced.
@fatsheep08
@fatsheep08 8 жыл бұрын
My question is were do you get the additive for the diesel and how much does it take ? and how much does it cost? how long does it last?
@jwsrules123
@jwsrules123 8 жыл бұрын
do you mean the d.e.f fluid? you can buy it anywhere like Walmart or gas stations, if you buy it in jugs it costs more then if find it at the pumps.
@fatsheep08
@fatsheep08 8 жыл бұрын
+jwsrules123 thank you :)
@jwsrules123
@jwsrules123 8 жыл бұрын
+Chris Cordova your welcome. you thinking of getting a new diesel?
@Firefuzz11
@Firefuzz11 8 жыл бұрын
Those numbers for that Cummins seems a little low. My 2007 Silverado 2500hd Duramax has 365hp and 660 ft lbs of torque. Normal driving I average about 17.5-18 mpg and about 10-14 while towing depending on weight.
@leadnsteel
@leadnsteel 8 жыл бұрын
Would make a good work truck. Waiting for the Frontier diesel runner with the 2.8 cummins to see how it does.
@dennisreynolds6915
@dennisreynolds6915 2 жыл бұрын
it never came
@EdmondCharrette
@EdmondCharrette 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the MPG is after the EGR and Cat Converter delete
@NordicNevs
@NordicNevs 8 жыл бұрын
My full size 3/4 ton 2500 with the duramax gets a constant 19 without anything in tow. Towing my 5th wheel, 34' long 10000 lbs I am getting 12-13
@mqbitsko25
@mqbitsko25 8 жыл бұрын
That is horrific fuel economy! I really tried to talk myself into buying one. Thank God cooler heads prevailed.
@tarded400
@tarded400 8 жыл бұрын
I love your videos.... but I'm just not sure how relevant milage tests on $60k pickups are. Unless of course you want to justify your favorite vs your neighbors favorite.
@TheBakeryism
@TheBakeryism 8 жыл бұрын
+tarded400 agreed...if you're buy for economy then base model is what you should be buying for
@Dexter_Solid
@Dexter_Solid 8 жыл бұрын
+TheBakeryism Really? Then why buy diesel at all, go get the 450hp gas engines and scream passed everyone, you will be getting 6mpg, but you will be going fast.
@kinggoten
@kinggoten 8 жыл бұрын
+tarded400 some people buy the expensive truck then can't afford to drive it I guess? :P
@kdfdraft
@kdfdraft 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder how this compares to every other Truck, year, model, and engine package ever made ...........OH WAIT....COMMENTS!!!
@ps3dethman1
@ps3dethman1 8 жыл бұрын
there running winter diesel too my 7.3 powerstroke looses 3 mpg with winter blend. that gets 16mpg oh long highway trips
@6SpeedTA95
@6SpeedTA95 8 жыл бұрын
MPG doesn't seem too great for a diesel and the RPM seems high? My BMW 335i (gasoline engine for those unfamiliar) turns 2,100 rpm at 80mph. MY z06 turns similar RPM...I would have expected 1400 or so rpm from a diesel at 70mph.
@paulwicklund1052
@paulwicklund1052 8 жыл бұрын
Your own tests shows the 6.2L Chev gets 1 mpg less than the Titan towing same load, so why spend the extra money for the diesel. My friends 1994 Ford E350 with the 7.3 L powerstroke Diesel gets 14 Mpg all day towing a 30 ft RV.
@wvcorvetteman
@wvcorvetteman 8 жыл бұрын
I really hope you put 12,000 lbs behind it going up the IKE Gauntlet. Its time for Nissan to put up or shut up. You guys are being to easy on these trucks. You need to really max them out.
@kyleblake6769
@kyleblake6769 8 жыл бұрын
My 1997 Suburban 1500 4wd with a 5.7 get's 12mpg towing 6000lbs on roads that aren't flat.
@davidchurchill1651
@davidchurchill1651 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t get 30mpg like the Ecodiesel V6 ram 1500?
@alexdevries3554
@alexdevries3554 8 жыл бұрын
Same run for the Ram Ecodiesel...???
@gthisgirliswild
@gthisgirliswild 8 жыл бұрын
what was the rams mpg towing this trailer?? I can't find the video
@a.wheeler7731
@a.wheeler7731 8 жыл бұрын
What apps is the guy using to measure the speed and sound level?
@jasanmiguel
@jasanmiguel 8 жыл бұрын
Wait, the Silverado, Tundra and Tacoma were towing weight. Why not the Nissan?
@jasanmiguel
@jasanmiguel 8 жыл бұрын
OK, my bad, didn't watch the whole video to see trailer come into play.
@CallsignVega
@CallsignVega 8 жыл бұрын
I like the Titan XD but I couldn't ever buy one. Less payload ratings than a F150, pretty crazy for a "5/8" diesel pickup. Capabilities less than a modern F150 1/2 ton, the weight of a super duty but with worse fuel economy. The Titan XD just doesn't make any sense.
@Misnjef
@Misnjef 8 жыл бұрын
You nailed it
@EGGINFOOLS
@EGGINFOOLS 8 жыл бұрын
You say 5/8th? I say 15.8mm. Considering the metric table and all. lol
@Kcducttaper1
@Kcducttaper1 8 жыл бұрын
+Callsign Vega Lol. "5/8" pickup. I like it! Despite Nissan's advertisement garbage, legally, it's a 3/4 ton truck because of its class 2b rating (>= 8,500 GVWR) and lack of EPA MPG numbers.
@686raptor06
@686raptor06 8 жыл бұрын
You nailed it on the head! Now that the 2016 F -150 is out and can tow 12,000+ this truck makes no sense. Nissan saying they were "splitting the truck segments" is not the case. They just finally made a truck that is close to where half tons are now mot 10 years ago.
@EGGINFOOLS
@EGGINFOOLS 8 жыл бұрын
686raptor06 Nissan started on this truck back in 08. This is why your comment makes complete sense. They are being outdone already
@tvanb
@tvanb 8 жыл бұрын
Like all diesels, it's mpg will get better and better as the engine racks on miles.
@aaronbehindbars
@aaronbehindbars 8 жыл бұрын
Why is a torquey diesel spinning almost 2000 rpm at 70 mph? My 5.3 V8 Silverado spins about 1800 rpm at 70. That diesel ought to chug along about 1500 rpm and you'll see a bit better mpg. Ram apparently passed on the V8 Cummins for their half ton because of poor fuel consumption. I think it's just the nature of the beast.
@mefastocastigo
@mefastocastigo 8 жыл бұрын
It got the same mpg that a Silverado With a 6.2 V8 got. Tell me again what is the point of this Truck ?
@daltonkirk7146
@daltonkirk7146 4 жыл бұрын
6.2 technically calls for premium gas so diesel is cheaper but mainly it’s the way they tow it just handles it better. it was cold af out that affects Diesel engines significantly on mpg . 6.2 is a bad ass motor though lol
@collinator68
@collinator68 8 жыл бұрын
I like all this competition in the truck market, I think it would be really great if GM made a silverado with a 4.5 duramax to compete with this truck. perhaps have the 4.5 duramax with twin turbo set up? maybe develop an 8spd auto to go with it? I see it making 560 lbs of torque fairly easy.
@waynerhea6649
@waynerhea6649 4 жыл бұрын
In the titan you cant really compare the diesel and gas engines the diesel is a 5 liter Cummins with 555 pound feet of torque so if you compare that to the ram 1500 3.0 diesel it's way stronger
@BillSprague
@BillSprague 8 жыл бұрын
Why does André buy lunch when Nathan wins and Nathan buys coffee when André wins? Just askin'....... 😉
@ruger-hi2tg
@ruger-hi2tg 7 жыл бұрын
my 2016 titan XD with a Cummings and 2 wheel drive weighs 6700 with a full tank of fuel I put it on a truck stop scale just to see the 4 wheel drive models with in SV or SL or pro 4 x are between 7200 and 7600 LBS this is a heavy half ton its really a 3/4 ton from ford chevy or ram 10 yrs ago
@HDsgs114
@HDsgs114 8 жыл бұрын
Very unimpressive. I think the last Ram 2500 diesel they tested got over 20mpg on the same test loop when empty and it has 800ftlbs of torque. I think it was a 2wd but still it wouldn't drop the fuel mileage that much if it was a 4x4. The Titan is too heavy and underpowered. It would make much more sense to buy a real HD truck or any other half ton for that matter.
@jsvm10301
@jsvm10301 5 жыл бұрын
Its also around 65000 msrp.
@EdmondCharrette
@EdmondCharrette 8 жыл бұрын
Does Colorado salt the roads?
@beavermosh1
@beavermosh1 8 жыл бұрын
It'd be nice to see these MPG videos in places where you can't set the cruise control to 70 MPH.
@Aaronaitor
@Aaronaitor 8 жыл бұрын
The only joy of watching this was the sound of the Chevy V8 at the end, it's just majestic
@UhuhuhuhYouknow
@UhuhuhuhYouknow 8 жыл бұрын
To all of you trash talking the mileage of this Titan just be happy you don't own a 4.0L Nissan Frontier. Without a trailer i get 12-13 MPG City and 16 MPG Highway. I've never payed attention to mileage when towing but i don't even want to know what it is.
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 8 жыл бұрын
with 11Mpg, you might as well buy a gas engine.
@madridista7285
@madridista7285 8 жыл бұрын
Always less MPG about 20% when is 20*F
@1981AdamGs
@1981AdamGs 8 жыл бұрын
I had high hopes for this truck. They did a good job on the design. The interior is nice. But they failed on the engine. I thought maybe this was going to be my next truck. I was hoping this diesel was enough to get me to give up my Ram. But after watching some reviews on this, I think I will go with the Ram Ecodiesel. It may not have the towing capacity. But for what I need it for, it will do the job. And it gets much, much better mileage. My 09 Ram 1500 Hemi gets 22-23 on a good day without any wind. Two weeks ago I got better mileage than this pulling a trailer with 5 pallets of landscaping block.
@wildkat3985
@wildkat3985 8 жыл бұрын
You'll never catch me getting rid of my 1992 Dodge Cummins. I Average 21-22mpg unloaded and 16+ mpg pulling my camp trailer and boat together regularly. It may not have all the creature comforts of the new truck but I use it as a TRUCK, and would shit if it ever got mileage like this did.
@spaggs111
@spaggs111 8 жыл бұрын
Probably should of put another gear or two on there. Upped the compression ratio. Cut down on weight. Something.
@gavinjarman2787
@gavinjarman2787 8 жыл бұрын
where's the offroad review chaps? any chance
@1guyin10
@1guyin10 8 жыл бұрын
Although it isn't bad for an "extra duty" truck the fuel mileage isn't all that impressive. This is only slightly better than what you would see with HD diesels. A gasoline engine in a similar truck would probably see somewhere in the 12-14 empty highway mpg, so the diesel is better. It is easy to see why RAM chose not to go with this engine. They have the HDs for people that want to tow big loads and could never get appropriate mpg for a daily driver half-ton out of this Cummins. I think the only real question is why Nissan didn't try to beef this truck up a bit more and put more room between it and the half tons as far as towing capability.
@MarcMonson
@MarcMonson 8 жыл бұрын
before someone jumps on the diesels last longer bandwagon this still uses chain to connect to the crank, but gears to connect two cams.. that said if they ike with 8k i will guess about 8:39.
@kylevanwinkle2081
@kylevanwinkle2081 8 жыл бұрын
+Marc Monson in todays market the odds of anyone keeping a truck beyond 200k is very low. with that in mind most vehicles in todays market can het 200k quite easily and many trucks can hit 300k gas or diesel. diesels may last longer but youll never see the full length as you will probably never own the vehicle that long. plus you have to take into account possible cost of repair like injectors and fuel pump. these can be very expensive. that said if you are going to tow everyday a diesel will out live a gas motor without breaking a sweat as they wont be working as hard as the gas motor to do the same work.
@quadrunner2124
@quadrunner2124 8 жыл бұрын
+Kyle Vanwinkle The longevity and ease of maintenance in a vehicle is arguably the leading factor to an increased resale value which is the number 1 cost for a new car buyer. It's one of the reasons companies like Honda have such great costumer loyalty. Not because their customers run the wheels off their cars, but because the majority can sell their cars at a very good price to the people who do, and trade up every couple years at a relatively low cost.
@johnathanyinger
@johnathanyinger 8 жыл бұрын
+Marc Monson So you think belts are better than gears? haha lol
@quadrunner2124
@quadrunner2124 8 жыл бұрын
Johnathan Yinger No that's not what he meant.
@quadrunner2124
@quadrunner2124 8 жыл бұрын
Mr.Green You're name/pic is priceless
@Kcducttaper1
@Kcducttaper1 8 жыл бұрын
As with pretty much every other comment, this was a very nice review on TFL's part, but the truck.....not so much. I just don't understand how a diesel can get so poor economy and power. If you take into account fuel prices, this truck is waaaay more expensive to own than any of its competitors. Plus, how does a 3/4 ton only have 6 lug nuts? That's totally a side note, but it still confuses me.
@supremeirohnic
@supremeirohnic 8 жыл бұрын
+Kcducttaper1 Diameter of the studs plays a part in strength too. For example, the Tacoma has six studs in the hubs (except the rarer 5-lug 2WD version that isn't made anymore) while the much heavier Tundra has five studs of a larger diameter. Although I must agree, it seems strange for a big diesel truck to not have the conventional eight.
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