2016 VW e-Golf 24 kWh 6 years/48k km battery degradation test

[@EinzigfreierName]

This topic is getting more and more interesting over time as more "old" EVs are available on the used car market and people who want to buy them should look very carefully at tests like this. Especially with the trend to higher and higher charge rates and less cobalt in the batteries, it will be interesting to see how todays cars degrade in the future.

[@flabbo200]

Yeah but there are more and more car with bigger batteries, in the future my id3 will have a quarter of the charging cicles of this golf with the same mileage

[@EinzigfreierName]

@@flabbo200 Sure, that's true. I'm would not be concerned anyway as long as the battery is still under warranty. But with ICE vehicles, there are a lot of people who buy used cars, lets say 5-6 years old and drive them for the next 10 years. I'm curious to see which EVs will be good for that and which not.

[@FFVoyager]

@@EinzigfreierName I finally saw an Ioniq 28 recently that doesn't have 100% battery health. It had done 260,000km! I know cars at that age will not be as good as they were when they were new.

[@Cornelius87]

@@EinzigfreierName exactly, these tests are good if big adoption of EVs will be a thing in the future. I've never bought a new vehicle and have never spent more than $14k on a used vehicle, cheapest ICE car I've bought was $5k. They've all ran 8-10 years plus until getting rid of them to get another vehicle. I know a lot of people are like me so for us to get into the EV market it's going to have to be well documented that a cheap 10 year old EV can last you another 10 years.

[@Lewis_Standing]

With better thermal management and larger buffers you would hope they would do very well. But only time will tell.

[@GoldenCroc]

For me, these tests are some of the most interesting you do. Please do more and higher km cars if possible.

[@mkonci]

I have egolf 36kwh battery a bit less than 5years old and currently 204.000 km. Still cool and daly useful car, I use it for driving to work (each working day 140km both ways) and of course for all family trips in 🇸🇮. No problems till now, all works just fine 😍

[@pvande]

200k - impressive👍

[@mkonci]

I need to do similar test than Bjorn did. Based on how much I can drive in comparison when egolf was new I would estimate around 10-15% loss of battery

[@96Lauriz]

what is the range at 130 km/h if I may ask?

[@mkonci]

@@96Lauriz normally I don’t drive 130km/h so long that battery is empty but I can only guess and I would say around 100km 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@samusaran7317]

@@96Lauriz At that speed youre going to spend more time charging

[@johannes92]

Good review. Cool to test how it goes with these older electric cars. If you need 2015 e-golf with over 110,000km for testing, then I have one in Lørenskog, which you can borrow.

[@Mtatc1]

I think the old e-Golf had around 21,2 kWh net. But still impressive, good car. I had also one for several years

[@hadtopicausername]

Given that I'm someone who doesn't want to get a new car every so often, but rather keep driving the same car for years and years and years, tests like these are highly relevant.

[@mati74]

Our 35,8kWh e-Golf from 2018 has still no noticable degradation after almost 90.000km. Not a single issue even after 4 years of excessive usage. We use it mainly for daily commute, 60-70 km/day, and we charge to 80% every day at our wall box. Average consumption is less than 15kWh/100km. The best car we ever had.

[@trinitonv8]

This car was my first EV.Bought it brand new june 2016.Leather seats.Didnt get the troublesome heatpump,thank god.Was looking for a new EV after 5 years,and 56 000km driven.testdrove ID3 but it felt so simple interior,exept range.Ended up with Polestar2.

[@krazymuthafuka]

What's the heat pump issues? Haven't had issues on my 2018 with it.

[@vhog666]

So poor interiors of the iD3 was a deal breaker for many persons... me inclusive. 🤦‍♂️

[@trinitonv8]

@@krazymuthafuka 1st gen Egolfs 2014-17 year had some major problems with the HP.If you where lucky it broke down within warranty period.

[@krazymuthafuka]

@@trinitonv8 hopefully not as big an issue on the newer ones. Thanks

[@pvande]

@@Mega6981 Me too.

[@MichaelSeibert]

I had an e-Golf for four years. It was a brilliant CAR. In many ways better than my 2022 Tesla Model 3. The thing about it was that it was designed as a fossil car and because of that it fell short as an ELECTRIC car. But if you don’t want to drive 500+ km with it regularly, it’s still one of the greats of the greats.

[@stsukx7469]

I own a 2015 e-Golf for 70k km and new, the battery has 21,2 kWh net capacity and 24,2 kWh total. I’ve got similar degradation. 18,7 kWh on 21,2 represent 11,5% degradation but it’s ok for me.

[@ashton9699]

Degradation test is definitely the best videos IMO, considering how the used market is already pretty big and going to continue to grow for older EVs. Test of 30kWh or 40kWh Leaf should be pretty easy to get and interesting to see!

[@thunderbird1991]

Hi Bjørn, I have a 2014 e-Golf with around 117000 km on the odometer. It is available in Drammen anytime. Love the vids, keep it up!

[@JPetr94]

Highly appreciate the episode! 👏 From my experience, for this aged 24kWh battery optimum cruise speed is 70-80km/h with consumption no more than 10-12kWh. Last summer i managed to squeeze out 17.7kWh @70km/h with consumption 10.1 and VCDS told 400Wh left (2014 car, 100k on odo, first 3 years and 60k in hot California).

[@evdabbler]

Good result on this eGolf! Very helpful to demonstrate the longevity of batteries on older cars to help demystify EVs and support adoption.

[@ankurbabbar1125]

Old EV testing makes so much sense as a lot of people go for second hand cars. These tests will help them make an informed decision as to which EV they should buy. Double thumbsup 👍 👍

[@geekdomo]

My son still drives our old 2015 eGolf. Its holding up really well with 50k miles on it. We have an ID4 and a Bolt now.

[@pvande]

That's a great initiative to test older cars for their degradation! And the e-Golf... I mean a Golf, is a Golf, is a Golf. And the Golf mark VII is still the best of all Golf's. I own an e-Golf, too. I will never sell it. Best regards from Germany!

[@mk1photography62]

Great helpful video. I bought a used 35kwh E Golf with fairly low 18k miles here in the UK Such a great car perfect for so many things really. Decent predictable range and reasonable charging speeds. Such a nice quality car too nothing to dislike really!

[@starshipcaptain4753]

E golf is an outstanding city ev. It's also a great and affordable transitional first ev. It is not designed for highway driving or going up hills. Actual range is much worse than stated but if you keep it under 35 around town it is awesome

[@richh650]

It is a real treat to watch your informative vehicle usage videos Bjorn. You bring a personal feel to EV videos that no one else can manage on YT. I love your beginning to review used EV's to get an idea of how their performance is affected with age and usage. There are not many if any other reviews of used EVs. Thank you again sir!

[@rho008]

I own one. I charge it everyday to 100%. I have not notice any battery degradation in 3 years with 65K mileage. Probably one of the best EVs no one is talking about. Fun to drive, very smooth and confortable. The only problem is that it only has 130-140 miles of range. Great for daily use.

[@jdmderick]

As I can see the Hyundai IONIQ is the best when it comes to battery performance in the long run. I am surely put off by the Nissan Leaf due to the crazy battery degradation.

[@bernardcharlesworth9860]

Great news and chemistry only getting better

[@vreauacaunt]

Thank you very much for testing old electric cars! I'm planing to buy an e-Golf now and was a little bit afraid how good it is still.

[@bonebreaker280]

Slowly but for sure, we can say that battery degradation isn’t becoming a big issue if the car has active thermal management. Curious about fat etron, due to flat charge curve, but also 800v based cars, since they can peak at 3C charging. We’ll see in the next few years.

[@marianilie7321]

I have zoe from 2012. 110k km and 20,9 kwh useble from 22,8 kwh. I charge with 8A 230v

[@arthimodo]

Interresting Test, Bjørn! What is about a 5 Year old Ioniq? This was the first affordable and acceptable 1000km-challenge car.

[@santerixdxd]

Hi! I drive a 2017 ioniq 28kWh with 108k km, and just happened to test out how much capacity I can get out. Driving at 105 kmh constant speed on the highway (temp about 2-0 degrees C, winter tyres, headwind), I managed to get out 25 kWh, or roughly 89% of the 28 kWh design capacity. I think it’s worth mentioning that the high speed and cold weather both make the test somewhat inaccurate, and if I had more optimal conditions and lower speed, maybe it would be possible to get nearly 26 kWh out. Is that a lot of degradation or not, I’m not sure🤷‍♂️

[@Simon-dm8zv]

Bjørn tested the degradation of an Ioniq 28 kWh (92k km) 2 years ago.

[@mycomment1862]

I would like to know how a faster charging Ioniq 28 kWh does after 100k kilometers. They were introduced in 2016 so should be possible. Thanks for all the useful testing!

[@hansmuller3676]

There Art a few Ioniqs > 300k km in Germany. One with 99% SoH and one With 87% SoH but with mainly DC fastcharging…

[@leokowalski]

Look at line #2 at 8:52

[@santerixdxd]

I drive a 2017 ioniq 28 and fast charge it maybe 1/2 of the time. Just about to hit 110k km on the odometer and degradation is still acceptable I’d guess. I can get 25kWh out in non optimal conditions, maybe 26kWh in more optimal conditions. So degradation would be about 11% of the 28kWh design capacity.

[@leokowalski]

@@santerixdxd Hier are some more interesting facts about Kia/Hyundai and the degradation of the Highvoltage batteries. The degradation of his eNiro has been only 1,1 % after 92000 km. The Kona electric, starting from 03/2020, has the same SKI-HV-Battery. KZbin eNiro2020svk, Link follows:

[@leokowalski]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJXSdGaArbeNgrs

[@achikokaxeli]

Good point Bjorn, i asked you to test old cars also in the past, as you mentioned to monitor battery degredation on old EVs is importent and it makes more sence for us - who lives in poor country and wants to buy old EV.

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

Those KemPower chargers are awesome, all that info, graphs. So cool

[@jurgenkonings7203]

Hey Bjorn, can you test the degradation of a Kia E-Niro 64 kwh ? I would like to know how good or bad it is. It's a very good car.

[@dixikloos5352]

Yes please, me too🙏

[@DeathSc00p]

And me!

[@aewinious]

Hear hear!

[@sko1beer]

Same

[@jang.6400]

I really would like that too, as old as possible and as many km on meter as possible ….

[@deyanharizanov692]

I have a 2016 e-golf with 63k and found to have more like 15% degradation just recently. The usable capacity of the battery when new is 20,5 KW. Nevertheless if you need a ev for a city commute and have access to a charger nothing can beat the Golf. Very comfy, good quality interior, easy to park, plenty of space inside. Highly recommended!

[@SplittingVoices]

That is basically the same range I used to get on mine, when my 2016 eGolf was new.

[@LAndrewsChannel]

I think you should try to do a degradation test on non-Tesla EVs that have a bigger battery capacity with thermal management like Hyundai Kona or Opel Ampera-e. Would also love to see a degradation test on Renault Zoe since it is one of the most popular EVs in EU.

[@manuelcunjador9946]

@@asaha7547 ..with latest Software in Germany charging limit is 80%, but you are allowed to discharge to 0%. And wait for the new battery. I'm still waiting for exchange, but until now my 2017 Ampera-e has 57.2kWh capacity and ~97000km.

[@Simon-dm8zv]

@@manuelcunjador9946 kWh ;)

[@samusaran7317]

"Non-Telsa EVs" Pretty extra dont you think? 🙄

[@wedrive-derblogfurelektrom2899]

eGolf 1st gen has 21 kWh net. You can override Eco Mode when not in the red SOC area of the gauge (with new eGolf it works with Drive Mode Select).

[@Bumblerazz]

I have a 2017 egolf and I find the same as you, that it doesn't seem to have degraded much. Love the car but will be moving to a new e-car once it arrives (last ETA = 18months!). You are welcome to come and test it if you like, but I'm in Canada...

[@OleBentel]

You should add this to your degradation playlist, so it is easier to find. For that matter all the other videos also. There is currently only one of them (2015 KIA Soul)

[@Grainca2012]

Had an E-golf here in Sweden from 2015 with 140 000km on the odometer. Charged mostly to 80-90% and i did a test last year (with OBD) where it showed to have 18-18.3Kw usable battery wich is not bad at all.

[@MoviesStuff]

Getting ready to trade in my e-golf for a model 3 SR+. It is a great city car but in my opinion it’s technology is outdated. Here in the Netherlands the distance aren’t that long but it’s limited fast charging speed and limited range can be a real pain. My 2018 model does 200km in the summer, charging on your way back from work at the end of the day can be really annoying. Great car for small distances and no holidays.

[@Waldlaeufer789]

😊👍 Tolle Tests , gerne mehr davon.

[@wedrive-derblogfurelektrom2899]

eGolf 31,5 kWh (35,8 kWh) has Samsung SDI prismatic cells (old one has Sanyo-Panasonic) but also has low Degradation. Some have driven 200.000 km also with charging fast (DC) a lot and still have around 90% SOH! I love my eGolf also :-) (2020 model). - we will keep it and get a MY or sth like that as the main / family EV!

[@yuriytopin8040]

Very useful information! Thinking abount buy used golf. Thank you!

[@StormKleist]

Back in 2020 I managed to get 300km out of my brand new e-golf. That's close to 100wh/km! 💪😁 Sad though that I may never experience it again! 😒

[@shl4998]

It would also be cool to see videoes with Nassir inspecting the old evs and see whats the problem with them and what could be :)

[@catalicos]

Interesting. I was curious about the selling price as well, but I guess you didn't have it at the time. 2nd hand EV market will probably be huge in the coming years, this kind of videos will be gold

[@stp926]

The Golf VII is a class act in all forms. VW have lost the plot now.

[@JPetr94]

Nominal net capacity is 21.2kWh. Pity that back in the days no one didn't perform capacity test, i also suspect the real was 20+, but not more than 21.

[@bjornnyland]

I got about 30 kWh from the 35.8 kWh pack. 20 from 24 is likely.

[@angelarodrigues2829]

Excelent topic. Please check Renault zoe 22kw. In south europe, like Portugal people are starting to buy uses electric car's as a second car to city. A 6 year's old Renault zoe still cost 12000€ with proper battery in Portugal.

[@shithappensforyou]

I would also like you to try an ioniq 1st gen, it’s one out in kjeller right now for sale at moblie, 2017 145k. I’ve tried it, went around 100km with 47% left, it seems quite good, but have not tested the degradation.

[@futureatob6920]

I go from Start Engine button in my Zoe to Power button when I get my ordered Renault Megane E-Tech - at least something - but there will probably be a lot more regarding the upgrade

[@MONabas1988]

Thank you very much for the video. I own the same car, bought it used with 25K kilometers on it, now it sits close to 57K kilometers. Never charged it with a fast charger => I would imagine that my car's battery would have aged better since it doesn't use fast charging. The reason I don't charge with a fast charger is because the car is USA import whereas my country uses the EU type fast chargers, so there is no way for me to do the same test as you did.

[@huey-fan8335]

If you want a 100k + Pre -Facelift e golf, i have one! 115000 km now, its a also from 2016! And it runs just fine ! The SoH is 87% (18,6 kWh remaining from 21,4) ! If the Battery is dead in a few years, I'll simply remove the 264 PHEV2 cells with 25Ah each with ones that have 50Ah or more by then!

[@redjohn20001]

The car of interest to me would be the e Golf with the larger battery. As ever, great video content. Many thanks.

[@samusaran7317]

What? Since when?

[@V10PDTDI]

HI Bjørn I have a 2015 e Golf SEL fully equipped including the heat pump I use the app. called car scanner pro and I found recently 2 interestin data pid one of them is called HV battery total charge in KW/h it seems to show the current total capacity of the battery available net and the other one is called Maximum energy content of the traction battery and it sems to show the available energy considering the temp. of the pack what I see curently on my e Golf for HV total charge is 20023.93 kw/h and the other number is called maximum energy content of traction battery is 17850.1 kw/h I just did a capacity test at 95 744 km and I drove the car before doing the test and also DC chaged it so the battery temp. was a 25 deg. Cel. I drove the car until only 2 km was left on the inst. cluster and the battery voltage was at 305 volts and then recharged the car with 240 volt charger at the maximum the in bord chager would charge and the total energy to full charge was 18.390 kw/h I assume a 5 % efficency loss but I'm sure that there was still more that 5 % left in the pack available so if the car when new had 21.2 kw/h available and now I can put 18.4 kw/h then it lost 2.8 kw/h since new then it lost 14 % degradation but if you go by the BMS then 21.2 kw/h minus 20.0 kw/h = 1.2 kw/h then it's 5.82 % I don't really know what is the real number ?

[@JPetr94]

Real number is most likely 17850/21200. Pretty common value for that age and odo.

[@dellyet]

Interesting 👌more old car tests

[@eivindhelle3985]

I will consider this to be almost the same capacity as when the car was new. I have owned the same car for several years and have done the same test under different conditions. The available capacity depends very much on the temperature. The specified capacity was 24.2kWh, with about 88% available. At 25 degrees you could expect about 21 kWh available, but it would drop to about 18.5 kWh when the temperature was around 0 deg Celcius. For at test at 5-10 degrees I would expect the available capacity to be around 19.5 kWh without degradation.

[@KrisP10]

Hi, love these tests. Just sold my 2016 Soul with 63000km done. The battery health seemed to be very good compared to the 100,000km ones. Hope you can test a 40kWh Leaf with around 100,000km on the "clock".

[@Vrabetzz]

If you test another e-golf, you can use carscanner. For the facelift model you have to use the e-up 2.gen profile though. Or use EVNotify(the current version has a few bugs for the e-Golf like showing a battery inlet temp while the e-Golf doesn't have a thermal system for the battery, but there's already a fix which will make it into the next update). The Matrix LEDs on my 2020 e-Golf work great. All in all it's a good car except for longer distances since the range is limited and the charging even more, especially if you drive fast. I have managed to slightly rapid gate even at the first charging stop after driving as fast as I could on the Autobahn. When I drive around 110km/h rapid gate usually hits at the second charging stop.

[@Altkinx]

2020 record heatwave temps, took first ever road trip through mountains, rapid gate indeed.at one point charging at 9kw. But that was record temps + hard mountain driving + ac

[@PiatekMichal]

Try an old Zoe. It's one of the most popular EVs so it should be very interesting to know its degradation.

[@kornman]

Good idea to test old ev:s! 👍I would like you to test an early Jaguar I-pace. I am interested in buying that car.

[@richardgoldsmith7278]

Ah! I remember the “green winters” in Oslo in May from 30 years ago!

[@rekall76]

excellent, thank you!

[@b127_1]

I'd love to see a tesla 85 vs 90 after these few years. Pretty sure that the difference is still a lot bigger than the badge suggests.

[@TheSch3cter]

The E-Golf was refreshed in 2020. Mine is a 2020 model, battery is 36kw &100kw motor. Upgraded 17” Madrid alloys and virtual cockpit. Wouldn’t part with mine it’s amazing!!

[@bjornnyland]

*36 kWh

[@krazymuthafuka]

Refreshed to 36kWh in 2017, not 2020. Discontinued end of 2020. I've got a 2018, great car.

[@paulojeapereira]

Have one 2017 for a city car. The range is still good after 100k. Good price for range vs any new city ev. I would rank it against a mini ev. Would love to see the 36kw tested with good milage

[@larsenpetter]

But you could only use around 31,8 kWh of that, when the car was new.

[@krazymuthafuka]

@@larsenpetter correct. But same as the above 24kWh is only 20.5 usable

[@robert5008]

Love this idea Bjorn, maybe get your mechanic friends that did your model S give out advice on the model your testing what to look out for when buying that model used.

[@MrTechfreak95]

Wohoo love those tests of old-isch EVs =)

[@simonhad1223]

Thank you very much for your video, its very interesting as many are looking to buy second hand EV cars.

[@swedenevguru8483]

2014-2015 Nissan Leaf 24 kWh have been nice to see degration test. You can find nice prices on that car. Or why not triplets like Imiev

[@bjorndijkstra5863]

Great insight fellow Bjørn, would be nice to see the deg on a old zoe. Also loved the xc40 fwd videos,thank you!

[@Altkinx]

Can confirm the same exact charging curve on a 2019 115,000 km se.

[@AaronStarkLinux]

There are some Ioniqs from 2017 with high mileage if you can do that, might be great.

[@xfanas]

Please find egolf 300 :) Thanks for this video!

[@axeljbzh]

Takk Bjørn for videoen din, jeg ser dem alle og elsker den. Denne sommeren drar du med døtrene mine til landet ditt som jeg elsker. Brittany Norway med min Ioniq 28. Jeg ville til Nordkapp, men jeg tror det allerede å vise Sør-Norge til mine to døtre vil være en fantastisk opplevelse innen Electric. Takk igjen for videoene dine. Axel

[@k9ps]

very interesting. I like these videos

[@Vipauer]

Please test a Renault ZOE Q210! Thanks 👍

[@ChaimLoecher]

Great test thanks. Great series

[@OmgEinfachNurOmg]

I would like to see an old e-up

[@TommyBoay]

It is an impressively low degradation especially considering the low capacity it has (making it more likely to be charged to 100% often). Very interesting !

[@marcbungener1877]

interesting ! thank you

[@hughmarcus1]

It’s interesting that both those E Golfs are on standard 16” Golf alloys. The UK version of the car is fitted with different wheels which have supposedly low drag. They’re a ‘love them or loathe them’ thing. Personally if I bought an E Golf I’d change the wheels

[@thorbjrnhellehaven5766]

Makes me nostalgic :-) . I had one from 2015-19. I sure is a modified fossil. (Not just 'Start Engine'). - After one year, it I had to do "oil change service", the technician told me it was a fossil counter, they forgot to deactivate on delivery. - I remember there were a bug in one view in the consumption stat. screen, switching units when 'Engine off', but not showing numbers either. (I think maybe it was from [kWh/100km] to [l/100km], but not sure if I remember correctly. ) Another bug I remember: If DAB-reception was borderline weak, if would sometimes drop out a few seconds when I activated rear window heater. The range was not good, nor bad, but I didn't do many long trips. I actually went abroad, but the trip was planned in details, charging at hotels, not relying on rapid chargers. Driving from Hirtshals towards Aalborg, I quickly realized (looking at consumption) that 130 km/h could be a little too much, and decided 110 km/h was better, but the last stretch has even lower speed limit, saving more range at the end. Gradually, I got tired of missing towbar, for bike racks and trailer. I borrowed a hatchmounted bike rack a few times, but that was too inconvenient (you had to access the trunk through the rear seat). I got to a point where I even decided, I wanted to retrofit a bike rack mount (not approved/rated for trailers). But Brink had discontinued production of if, from lack of demand, and I was unable to find it in stocks anywhere. And I am happy they did, because just a few weeks later Tesla announced 910 kg towing for Model 3, and I ordered one the same week. I don't know if we'll live happily ever after, but I am still happy with it.

[@tesla-spectre]

excellent: these tests will be more important even than new car tests. I guess the km done and esp. the full charging cycles done matter much more than age ... I think the e golf is a brilliant city car. such a pity that they did not make it with double the battery size (I think) ...

[@IanMcc1000]

Hopefully there might be a better aftermarket battery in the future to resurrect these vehicles.

[@tesla-spectre]

@@IanMcc1000 yeah but unlikely since there is no real standard yet in form and shape. but lets see

[@alexandru-florea]

There is a catch though, the new cars might have a net capacity available, but with time some buffers tend to be released to the costumer and suddenly the battery seems not to be degraded at all.

[@samusaran7317]

Like the scumbags over at Volkswagen?

[@nfspeedy2]

According to Wikipedia the kWh new should be 21.2 so degradation is more like 12ish% still a good car.

[@bjornnyland]

That's nominal.

[@JHDundrum]

Hi Bjorn. Please could it be possible to take up the LEAF tests again from the time you had to drop them due to the pandemic? How about testing the Muxan battery replacements and additions batteries too if you could get your hands on any?

[@francoisdurocher4951]

Your idea is in line with what I have been thinking....specifically thinking Ionic 5, Kia EV6, nero, id4, mustang, tsla bolt. etc.....I will shortly be buying my first electric car....my current car, a 2008 camry hybrid and if not for rust I would keep it since it still works almost as good as it did initially,.....now which electric car should I buy it I plan to keep it for a loooonnng time. Nissan, Kia, Hunday, Tesla, GM have had electric cars out for a number of years....how good are they overtime.....you seem to be in a position to be able to answer tant question.

[@dumitru_sirbu]

Please test Zoe 22/40/50 thank you!

[@josepablomolinacarrillo3621]

Great video!

[@larshcdk]

You should get your hands on a Mercedes B250e - and see how their batteries performed over time!

[@renebergqvist599]

Well probably too far away for you. A 6/2015 Leaf 24 kWh with 80k. Still got all battery bars left. Last summer I got it to display 187 km in eco setting, a/c off on the GOM. Has almost not driven since then. (It can do 150 km in the summer at 80 km/h). It's for sale - but in Denmark. Leafs can be ok 😉

[@volkhen0]

Hi, where in Denmark? Zealand maybe?

[@renebergqvist599]

@@volkhen0 Yes Zealand.

[@volkhen0]

How much if I may ask? Is there some website where this car can be found? I’m looking for Leaf from some Scandinavian country and Denmark is the best option for me.

[@renebergqvist599]

I'll put it up tonight.

[@renebergqvist599]

It is up on the Danish site BilBasen.dk Odo 77000 km first registration 12/2015. It's a Black Accenta. As it is the Nordic version it has heatpump and heat blanket for the battery (prevents freezing of battery at very low temperatures). Note this car was not on the road before 9/2017 as it was in exhibition indoors at the dealer. Pictures of dash taken today - all bars are present as can be seen. More pictures can be requested.

[@DanBoro]

Are you doing a test on the new facelift MG ZS EV ?

[@deinhart404]

Super interesting 👍

[@elektrischverhaal5166]

What would be the determining criterion for degradation? Age in years? Mileage? Or fast charging history?

[@0tispunkm3y3r]

All of the above!

[@elektrischverhaal5166]

@@0tispunkm3y3r agree, But in proportion, one should be more significant than the other, right?

[@MartininitraM]

Veldig bra Bjørn. Akkurat det vi trenger er flere bruktbiltester da de fleste bilkjøpere i Norge kjøper brukt. Kjempeinteressant å se hvordan Soul/Leaf/eGolf klarer seg. Skulle likt å se i3 i miksen også.

[@MaxFiveGames]

1,000km challenge would be hilarious with this car 😅

[@Mtatc1]

Average speed is about 60 km/h. So you need more than 16 hours. I drove many of this trips

[@smithcasey9785]

It might be better than the Leaf 62kWh, assuming the e-Golf wouldn't rapidgate. (Other Björn tests show that the e-Golf can dissipate a lot of heat during driving.)

[@Mtatc1]

@@smithcasey9785 the old e-Golf rapidgate mostly after the 5th charging stop to 36 kW. After that it dropped to 29 kW. If you drive at 30 degrees you probably rapidgate after the 3rd charging stop

[@formiification]

It's pretty weird how different charging curves are between egolf and Citigo-E. My citigo (36kWh version) starts around 35kW and drops to 24-26 just around 30% of SoC. It's odd as both cars have pretty same battery packs.

[@Mtatc1]

the old e-up (2013-2017) charges betten than the newer versions

[@pvande]

e-up and e-Golf have completely different battery packs. Capacity is nearly the same - chemistry is completely different.

[@wedrive-derblogfurelektrom2899]

@teslabjørn - take an 2016/17 Hyundai IONIQ Electric 28 kWh ;-) for next test. Or a 2013 ZOE 22 kWh (still also has nice SOH / USOC).

[@pHD77]

9:07 Damn, that Nissan Leaf at the bottom of the list did NOT do very well under that California sun 😬

[@jrnhagen5621]

Kia Soul 27 kWh, the Classic Soul 👍🏻

[@Andreas77N]

I have a 1 year old Id4 with more then 62 000km. When you visit Varberg you can degradation test it if you want to. 😅🤙