2017 13" MacBook Pro Review - 1 Year Later!

[@InfinityLabsTech]

13" Pro wayyy better than the 12" MacBook.

[@Ash-ei9ku]

But girls tell me that size doesn't matter!

[@JatinUppal1]

Ash 😂😂

[@jaheimmarcelle5961]

True. But it's future proofed as USB Type-C is the future.

[@jaheimmarcelle5961]

Lita Ziang Makes sense, as I still use my MacBook Air because of the legacy ports but the world needs to move away from usb 3 so usb C can replace all ports and we can have less variations of ports and cords and dongles

[@Donutshop2365]

I wonder if your MBP's keyboard has ever jammed before?

[@VinceLeMusicien]

Just got one of these in 256gb last week, so far I love it. Performances in apple pro apps (final cut / logic) are insane. Such a great machine to work daily with. Snappy and the keyboard isn't bad at all. Just different but so far I'm getting use to it and love typing on this machine, even though it's clicky and loud. The speakers are the best. Being a musician, I can totally see myself mixing tracks on them. So far a great experience, I'm just concerned on how well it will age. My last one 2010 mbp was strong as a rock. These new one are very refined piece of tech but don't feel as strong as older models.

[@DecontructRecreate]

LE MUSICIEN I really doubt the speakers will provide good reference for mixing. A good pair of headphone monitors is necessary, at the very least. But it’s true that they are so good that watching movies or casually listening to music will be a pleasure.

[@VinceLeMusicien]

Deconstruct//Recreate i should clarify. I mix professionally and i have all the gear, softwares interfaces and speakers you name it. It’s nice to have a mix that sounds great in the best environment with great gear but that doesn’t necessarily means it works in real life. in the end it’s all about the end user experience with the music and these speakers provide enough low end and overall clarity to match that « average user » experience, imho. Hence this machine could provide a very decent mixing tool on the go.

[@DecontructRecreate]

Could very well be true. I'll know for sure once I get my hands on my own model, should be arriving soon!

[@VinceLeMusicien]

You're gonna love it for sure ! :-D Such a pleasure to speed my days working on this machine.

[@sebastianprimus3804]

I hope you will take good care of your mac pro. I see a lot of people have broken keyboard after 2 to 3 months of use

[@stefandesu]

I'm hoping for a 4 core 13" MacBook Pro release in June, with a more reliable keyboard. If they don't address the keyboard issue, I will actually consider getting a refurb 2015 model...

[@InfinityLabsTech]

That and give the touchbar taptic feedback like the trackpads. Feels a bit lacking to me

[@1143-t2q]

Stefan Peters New MacBook Pro will only be released in 2019

[@stefandesu]

Nobody knows. I think it's likely that new MacBook Pros will be released this year, but they might not address the keyboard issue at all and it'll probably just be a spec update.

[@brandonthompson9659]

Good luck finding a refurb 13" 2015 from Apple

[@stefandesu]

For me the choice was rather between a new 13" 4 core one and a refurb 2015 15" one. Since Apple didn't announce any new devices, I'm getting the latter.

[@williamhubschwerlin3096]

just bought the 13.3" MacBook Pro, (December 2018 new on eBay), after 5.5 years with a 13" MacBook Air. I love the Pro, better screen, larger trackpad Plenty fast enough for my needs.

[@ewanmoe3876]

watching this on my new old macbook pro 13 inch 2017 base model!

[@johnnynieves2112]

Ewan Moe have you had any problems with the keyboard?

[@brennonmitchell7753]

MacBook Pro should stay 1200$ price for the base model, the MacBook should be 999$, or 1050$. The MacBook Air should be NO MORE THAN 900$. Like fr Apple wtf how are you gonna charge the same price for the OBVIOUS better product.

[@THEpro1ST]

Still overpriced xd

[@brennonmitchell7753]

I have 7 Gf's i mean personally I think it’s priced pretty good bc your paying for a very quality experience with the laptop that you can’t get with any windows laptop. And yeah I know the dongles are a pain but after a while you get used to it. And plus other laptops in this compact area serving the same purposes costs about the same maby 100$ difference.

[@THEpro1ST]

brennon mitchell i use mbp 2015 and i love it but still this thing is overpriced, my opinion the next mbp will using intel vega m graphic but the price will go higher too

[@THEpro1ST]

brennon mitchell well we buy a laptop for 1200 but we still need to buy the dongle and dongle itself cost around 100$-200$

[@brennonmitchell7753]

I have 7 Gf's what country are you from? Where I am dongles cost no more than 15 bucks

[@Mrflores3]

Your video quality is amazing! Keep it up

[@mrcat3493]

I have a ‘17 MBP 13” as well. I opted for the touch bar/512gb model. Best Buy had a pretty good sale on it and I wanted the larger storage option. Love it. I agree the touch bar isn’t a “must have” but the extra ports and the context shortcuts on the touchpad is handy when I’m typing and not docked. I don’t mind the keyboard, I don’t have any issues when using the magic keyboard when using an external monitor and then switching to the MBP’s keyboard when I’m out.

[@ll7696]

with a keyboard cover there will not be any problems with the keyboard! I have the 2017 since it came out and have no problem with the keyboard!

[@nadaprinia2792]

L L really? I’ve been thinking to buy this laptop but concerned about the keyboard

[@jsmayil]

L L which keyboard cover you bought? is it Mosiso Ultra Thin?

[@terrelltjohnson]

I've had the computer for about three days and I'm totally in love with it. Actually, I prefer the thinner, chiclet keys way more than the previous model although I didn't any qualms about the keyboard while using but the difference to be able to slide my fingers seamless across the keys without any rejection is great. It's fast, reliable and doesn't need a software reboot after the battery dies, it just wakes up. The productivity of the device almost makes me not as angry about not having the multiple ports that were in the last model.

[@ignacioc.delacruz1042]

I bought the base model of the 2017 Macbook Pro 13" and I love it.

[@opaliittiopa]

same and no I didn't find any problems with the keyboard, though I type faster with "normal" keyboard. The keyboard takes some getting used but the trackpad is so worth it that they keyboard does not even bother. When I had a windows laptop, I always used a mouse cuz I just hated the trackpad but now I only use mouse when gaming!

[@MrChubib0]

does the 128 storage is enough for you?

[@opaliittiopa]

MrChubib0 yea i still have 40gb storage left and i have 3 games, MS office and like 5 other programs on my mac. If i need to store my photos somewhere, I'll use external hard drive. So yea 128gb is totally fine unless you need a lot of space for for example videos and editing them and stuff

[@ignacioc.delacruz1042]

I actually have the 256gb.

[@ignacioc.delacruz1042]

When I first got this laptop, I had to get used to this kind of keyboard. Prior to own this laptop, I had the 2014 Macbook Air. Now though I am used to it.

[@zakey6003]

3:01 Dude you're making me cry again :( , but still it's one of my fav song

[@worththewatch1517]

Shut up dude

[@zakey6003]

@@worththewatch1517 ?

[@shilan6142]

Should I wait for the new releases or just go ahead and buy this?

[@rolandjosef7961]

Apple should'nt have change their function keys from physical to touch bar. I think they would be better off if they just improved on the mechanism and reliability of their physical keys and also getting rid of the Power button and move it to the side. They should have placed the "Touchbar" in the lower part of the LCD bezel I think that is a win-win design for Apple.

[@rhodesshah4603]

I have the same basic spec 2017 model, and I can say with certainty that the shared CPU-GPU graphics are NOT twice as fast as the graphics on the 15" model as stated.

[@InfinityLabsTech]

The spec sheet says 48 execution units for HD640 vs 24 on the HD530 graphics. It’s not exactly twice as fast, but nobody wants to hear me give exact decimal values so I said twice as fast. And as for dedicated graphics, I don’t think anyone’s going to believe a 15 watt CPU is faster than a dedicated 45 watt GPU built on the same 14nm architecture.

[@rhodesshah4603]

I have to admit I am only going by having experience of using both models and not by using hard data or specifications.

[@DecontructRecreate]

0:56 you claim that graphics performance is twice as fast as the 15”. What year model 15”? Any numbers to back it up? Sounds very dubious.

[@InfinityLabsTech]

I wasn't clear enough - I was comparing just the integrated graphics in that case. Intel HD530 vs Intel HD 640. Intel's spec page says the 640 has twice the execution units as the 530, so roughly twice as fast. The 15" Pro has weaker Intel graphics, but the AMD card is much faster than both Intel GPUs.

[@terrry9709]

those people wanting to buy this model... wait for a refresh and expect at least a year but if you need one right now just get the new air or touchbar

[@tpc9002]

got mine 2017 refurbished around 1k which is a steal so glad i got this i was gonna get 2015 adn still expensive so found one on apple so why not get newer one around a good price so

[@rodrigo4379]

I'm waiting for the 15 inch one, I have the 2012 MacBook pro 15inch maxed out and it has started to struggle in 4k editing on Premier, but it's still a great machine. I might sell mine now or I should keep it just for rendering videos?

[@adre819]

Rodrick HD i have a 2017 mbp 15 . Its worth it. BATTERY LIFE IS A BIT SHORT THO

[@harunsanlihd4088]

Why don't you use FCP?

[@earlmonroe98]

Is this machine powerful enough to run Logic Pro X with multiple instances of Ominsphrere?

[@hypxr5846]

Yessur

[@SergeySenigov]

Is it worth considering 16Gb RAM custom model?

[@Geno4471]

This is what I don't get with these reviews: the talk about built-in speakers. Do people really use them for e.g. listening to music? And if yes, WHY? You can get far superior sound coming from cheap external speakers / moderately priced headphones.

[@InfinityLabsTech]

I’m personally not a fan of headphones, and I can’t move external speakers with me every time I want to lay on my bed or sit on the sofa. That’s where built in speakers come in. I also prefer to have my desk as minimal as possible so no mouse, keyboard, monitors or speakers. But that’s just me.

[@Geno4471]

Alright, I see!

[@nasibamii]

Hey!! Right now there is the Macbook Air 2018 model that I want to buy but before i knew it i wanted to buy the macbook pro 13 inch 2017 non-touch. The Macbook Air has a new design and a finger touch ID and a better keyboard than the macpro 2017. What should i buy..... After i have seen your video i consider to buy the macpro 2017 🧐

[@FLLL177]

Nasi Bami macbook pro 2017 is in all better than the air 2018

[@elins4143]

Are they still selling thel with bad keyboards or has this been addressed? As the 2018 model is like 400$ more

[@jesperbouw7994]

i am a windows guy but i want to buy the 2017 Macbook pro 13 inch, i am gonna use it for a ICT Education ( learning with computers and programming, and using vmware ) would you recommend this laptop for these kinds of tasks?

[@HengkiDwiyanHermawan]

I'm wondering about your usb-c port. Is it still in good condition?

[@antimoustique3175]

I don't know if I should buy this macbook pro, I edit 1080p videos on adobe premiere and I need a new laptop. would you recommend it for that type of task, performance wise ?

[@confideans]

question !!!! I just bought the mac book pro with touch bar but i need to use excel with short cut keys. what is the best way??? Window + Ms word + Keybord + mouse????

[@murtazataha343]

Do an updated video on the 10.5 iPad pro

[@bladeee007]

very nice straightforward review.

[@shantanumishra1312]

So like you cant do any video editing on mac book pro 2017..? Because i was goin to buy it for video editing. I thought may be if in future i upgrade it to 16 gb ram it would work well with 4k editing. Until then ill make do with 1080p. Please let me know ur thoughts. Thank you

[@kevkhalifa412]

Shantanu Mishra what makes you say you can’t video edit

[@VoraciousAvgeek]

They should put an MX150 in there. It should fit!

[@JatinUppal1]

FlyingSpartan they would never do so!

[@lemonlord4066]

Ikr, dumb bitch apple

[@VoraciousAvgeek]

Jatin Uppal Why not?

[@JatinUppal1]

FlyingSpartan they wouldn’t put a dedicated GPU in 13 inch macbook pro because the major factor that helps in sale of 15 inch is it’s dedicated gpu .

[@InfinityLabsTech]

I was gonna agree that they won't, but there is that new Intel chip with dedicated AMD Vega graphics so that's a possibility. At best it'll be a custom design with lower wattage and will definitely need GPU switching for Apple to use it. Ultrabooks are more low power, thin and light laptops geared for battery life so I really doubt we'll get anything significant.

[@qng9555]

No broken keyboard?

[@pantheranegra2261]

Great review!

[@InfinityLabsTech]

Thank you! Happy you liked it

[@emiliostadthagen4369]

I just got my 13 inch with touchbar, and I like it so much.

[@razieluchiha7580]

Emilio Stadthagen is it huge compared to the 12 inch?

[@razieluchiha7580]

Emilio Stadthagen gz by the way

[@emiliostadthagen4369]

Raziel Uchiha not much of a difference if u use a backpack to carry it

[@MohammedAhmed-ow8ie]

Great video! Gonna pick one up after the refresh

[@InfinityLabsTech]

Happy you enjoyed it! :)

[@christinel.1864]

I need help!! I'm a design student and I mostly use Adobe programs like Photoshop, Illustrator and Indesign but I will eventually use 3D modeling program like AutoCAD. Do you think the MacBook Pro 13" base model (128GB storage + 8GB RAM) will be enough for me in terms of storage and performance?

[@InfinityLabsTech]

128GB storage is extremely little for photo work, especially if you're using RAW files. At minimum I'd recommend getting an external hard drive or upgrading to 256GB. The 13" will work fine for the Adobe apps, although some 3D features won't work in PS because it doesn't have dedicated graphics. But AutoCAD is gonna be real tough since it's graphics heavy and the 13" only uses integrated graphics and dedicated graphics are only available on the 15" models. I would ask on a forum like tomshardware or reddit.com/r/suggestalaptop. Generally speaking, 13" laptops don't have powerful graphics. 15" Laptops are bigger and have more cooling to support fast graphics cards for heavy 3D work

[@kennakhalisha]

performance is yes but i'm not sure with the storage, you can still buy it but you need an external harddisk

[@CmanCorporations]

No chance. You would need a dedicated graphics card at the very least. Don't even bother to get this if you're going to be using AutoCAD.

[@전정배-c3l]

Silver vs. Space gray, your choice?

[@InfinityLabsTech]

Space gray, ez.

[@hardik2680]

do u think this laptop will be good for a computer science student??

[@PO1S0N-1]

Hardik Gupta yes

[@Brian_______]

Hardik Gupta no. Terrible for comp sci students. It’s only for engineering students.

[@kaylamitchell1982]

So the 13 inch graphics are better than the 15 inch ones?

[@GWT04]

15 has discrete. These are just integrated.

[@ojdgaf]

just an insane laptop, but maan those choppy animations while desktop switching...

[@Javier-db5xn]

Where can we buy your voice?

[@InfinityLabsTech]

I'm actually doing a sound comparison with the Sennheiser MKH 416 and the Blue Yeti right now. Not for a video, but I might just toss it in a pinned comment on a future video.

[@ravenrhyme4783]

Infinity Labs which one did you use here,pls?

[@abhishekmarriala888]

Is keyboard working fine after a year?

[@Rorypandanda]

abishek mariyala Apart from occasional stuck keys, not much of a problem

[@javaidahsan5495]

@@Rorypandanda Hi what do you mean by occasional stuck keys? Could you please tell me? I wanna buy macbook pro 2017 model. but I am reluctant because I read a lot of bad reviews about the keyboard? Could you please give me your feedback about the keyboard. It would help me make a decision. Thank You

[@Rorypandanda]

javaid ahsan it's like if dirt gets under the keys, the keys might get stuck for a while. While this won't prevent you from typing that letter, you lose the tactile feedback which you get from pressing those keys (until the dirt goes out)

[@Rorypandanda]

It's not much of a problem actually if you keep your laptop clean

[@javaidahsan5495]

Thanks for such a quick reply, could you please explain what u mean by keys get stuck for a while? Like are we talking about mins days hours? And then how do u manage to fix those keys? Thanks a lot your feedback really helps

[@idanhevroni7460]

I have old windows computer for a long time and I consider to buy a new MacBook Pro. I won’t use it for editing, I’ll use it for documents (for school), games etc. Should I buy it? Is it worth it? Or I should go with windows?

[@BeesonsCars]

Idan Hevroni you’ve probably already bought a computer, but I would absolutely recommend a MacBook. I’ve used MacBook’s extensively for the past 8 years and have never regretted it. I’ve had a 2007 MacBook (2.0 ghz core 2 duo.) A 2011 15” MacBook Pro (2.0 ghz Quad Core i7, amd Radeon graphics), A 2014 MacBook Pro Retina 15” (2.5 ghz Quad Core i7, Nvidia GeForce 755m) and a 2015 MacBook Air 11” (1.6 ghz Dual Core i5, intel hd 6000 graphics). All of them except the air have been my personal computer for over a year each (3 for both the pro’s.) They’ve been reliable, fast, and enjoyable to use. The air is my school assigned MacBook that I get to use both at home and at school during the school year. I enjoy using the air for document editing, productivity, and light video tasks (iMovie). The only downfall of the air is the horrible screen, 1366x768 in 2018 is laughably bad. It’s really noticeable during all tasks. The 14’ MBPr is a fantastic computer that’s very very powerful and enjoyable to use. The screen is gorgeous and the speed is perfect for heavy final cut editing, photoshop, and light gaming (OS X sucks for gaming but the computer will do well on Win10. ) I recommend getting a MacBook with the Retina display at least (don’t buy the air) and unless you need lots of power, the base MBPr like this or the MacBook is perfect for school work, productivity, and light video/photo editing. The size and design are perfect for a student and the battery life is incredible. Plus apples support has always been great for me and their products have been long lasting and reliable.

[@idanhevroni7460]

Tyler Beeson Yes, I bought a MBP 2017 13' with touch bar, and it's amazing. It's powerful and I'm enjoy it very much. Thank you!👌

[@PejoZmaj]

I am planing to buy 15" model, but reading so much about keyboard failure. Do you have any problems with it?

[@InfinityLabsTech]

No failures yet, but I got a free retrofit. Swapped my 2016 keyboard with a 2017 one. During that 3-5 day period I got a maxed out 2017 15” to use so all in all not too big a deal if you do experience a failure. I also occasionally play some games in Windows which heats the CPU and GPU to around 80-85c for around 2 hours at a time, still good.

[@denovo1148]

What about keyboard ,how is it working ???

[@daffamuhtar]

Answer this, please

[@adrian123781]

thank you for being positive!!👍👍👍👍

[@liquidsuncreative]

Is $1099 tax free a good bargain for this in 2018? This would be for school.

[@InfinityLabsTech]

I'd go for it. Assuming that's USD and brand new. If it's used, I'd look around a bit more for a better deal.

[@HeyJhaay]

$999, $949 for college students until Saturday!

[@HeyJhaay]

It’s currently $300 off at Best Buy and I’m tempted to buy one! My 2015 MBA still runs fine though, I just want a retina screen and better performance. But I’m only in school for one more year so I’m not sure if I should spend $550 on it (after trading in my MBA).

[@Philson]

Got the 13” too. Non-touch 256GB and 16GB Ram. Still love it.

[@DawnDudex]

hey! i was thinking about getting that exact model now, would u recommend me doing so? i mean its almost mid 2019, and im questioning if i should get a brand new 2017 non tocuh bar model. would love to hear ur thoughts! :)

[@StrifePulse]

DawnDude I got the 2017 model just now. Its worth it.

[@ManUntdForever]

@@StrifePulse Have you experienced any issues with the keyboard? I'm thinking of getting a 2017 refurbished model.

[@StrifePulse]

@@ManUntdForever No issues whatsoever. I occasionally clean my laptop and keep my things in working order.

[@sadieemel9066]

Can someone please tell me what the perfect MacBook is for video editing,essays,.. qt the same time? X

[@StrifePulse]

SadieeMel 2017 Mb Pro or 2018 Mb Pro

[@dammdonny1254]

Is this macbook goo for music producing?

[@StrifePulse]

DonaldBBeats Loading Yes

[@buddlightyear8557]

does it come with final cut??

[@InfinityLabsTech]

Nope. Costs something like $300 USD

[@riccardotosatto3264]

Hey man great review! I'm interested in buying it, the base model, for editing photos and I the future videos in Lightroom and Premiere pro. Is this a good option or is this slow? Thanks!

[@InfinityLabsTech]

Lightroom should be fine, but Premiere is a bit more taxing. Relatively simple 1080p edits will work fine on it but if you start using effects and plugins, or you start editing in 4K, that's when it'll start to slow down. Final Cut Pro will let you edit 4K with plugins on this thing but the editing style is very different compared to Premiere. Also, the base model only comes with 128GB and you'll want a bit more than that if you're editing videos. You can either buy the 256GB model or get an external hard drive since they're dirt cheap.

[@riccardotosatto3264]

Infinity Labs thanks man! I'm going with the 256 GB!

[@carlosandchrlys7889]

Logic x runs good with this Mac?

[@kevkhalifa412]

Carlos Rodriguez facts

[@boiledfrog5739]

i don't know why i need to buy this if there is No graphics card, still using here macbook air from 2012, no big deal.

[@productreview358]

Great video.

[@ludovicle464]

Why no one talk about the rattling noise that lot of Macbook make. Check on internet, I bought mine 1 year ago and it's already making this horrible sound when you move it. Apple says : it's ok, it's normal !

[@lemonlord4066]

Do MacBook pro 13" vs iPad pro 10.5"!!!!

[@MDZac2024]

Lemongrab The Wise I have both 2017 with Touch bar and the 10.5 and tho both are very capable, they serve different tasks. I have to have both.

[@immasnarl292]

More vids more life

[@InfinityLabsTech]

For some reason I totally died with this video. Delayed it an entire week

[@AdamGobin]

Great job

[@SauerSaboteur]

The graphics card of the 13" is better than the 15" one? What?

[@InfinityLabsTech]

I probably worded that poorly. So the 13” has double the “cores” on the Intel graphics compared to the 15”, but the 15” has a second high performance GPU that’s even faster. The 15” automatically switches between Intel and AMD graphics to save battery life so what I meant to say was the 13” performs very well in light use (where the 15” would also be using the Intel graphics).

[@undefineddude]

Will it get heat

[@GWT04]

Any electronic gadget will.

[@szshrestha4554]

i like the the new macbook keyboards. i love how it feels when i type. i dont understand why so many people hate it......

[@nadaprinia2792]

jasper bear maybe they hate it because there are many problems on that keyboard... like dead keys or something

[@mcnugger8305]

I use my 2012 core i5 for Lightroom 😳

[@adnaneazami920]

hmph, Mc Nugger more like Mc nugget

[@안들이]

after 1 year ? i think you must be had several keys not working properly.,,, im also 2017 13 macbook pro user, and have 1 keys not work properly after 6 month ,,and in your case (1year) i think you would have more than 2 keys not work properly xixixi xD. hopely the lawsuit against apple will success and got keyboard recall.

[@InfinityLabsTech]

The only issue I had was the b key doing double on two separate occasions. It's been a month since that happened and otherwise no issues. Given the choice, I'd still choose the old chiclet keyboards. Those are far superior

[@Rorypandanda]

I also have the same problem with the B key

[@yonotok]

Berapa harga skrg

[@gregoryvincent4481]

he speaks like cleveland from family guy

[@MaxTV-hd9wb]

You just did steal the thumbnail.fake Edit: it's jonathon morrison

[@InfinityLabsTech]

I like how you edited the comment but you're still wrong. Like somehow all my thumbnails AND VIDEOS are from Jonathan. Goddamn dude I must be Jonathan himself!

[@lili5597272]

12 inch Macbook is really shitty laptop. The Frame is too weak and feel no quality at all

[@bryan.w.t]

I was gonna buy this but ended with a 2013 15 inch MacBook Pro

[@paradiselosing]

I use a Mac 2016 but this doesn't look that bad but way to much I mean its not even that much better then 2016

[@v4nilla310]

hue hue hue im 17 inchs

[@anyamacdougall5511]

Blue_Creeper3800 mm*

[@xvgjffggvj8333]

@@anyamacdougall5511 km*

[@timothee4795]

Are you french ?

[@InfinityLabsTech]

Nop. I don't know any French

[@queeny7350]

He does have a french kinda accent tho😂

[@doorify]

Use cm

[@50kfpv]

Why does this guy sound like smeagle

[@aceofsevens7942]

lol

[@daredo2]

Does the wifi works fine with dongles ?