2017 BMW Alpina B7 FIRST DRIVE REVIEW - A less perfect & brilliantly bonkers tuner car? (2 of 2)

After driving the BMW Alpina B7, Kumo and MotoMan debate what the changes from Burkard Bovensiepen GmbH & Co mean to the G12 BMW 7 Series. Is it still a full on German BMW Luxury Car or has it become a full-fledged BMW Sport Sedan . . . MotoMan attempts to answer that question in this extended BMW episode.
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[@HighJacker99]

I'd take the B7 because its a lot better looking and its more rare than the 760

[@jaykelz1528]

This B7, is beyond beautiful

[@slothXII]

Please have Kumo in all your videos. He seems like a great sidekick.

[@snowcat3116]

Sudhir Panier And he is adorable !

[@pedromace2790]

alpinas are not sports cars, they are autobahn cruisers massive GT cars, so yeah a comfort mode makes a lot of sense.

[@teokarlsson1213]

Almost never driven my B5 in sport, they're built for the autobahn going 330km/h in full comfort!

[@WhitewalkerII]

The B7 is said to be sportier than the M760Li plus it's available with full Alpina Lavalina highest quality leather and in Alpina Blue and Green. So I would go for the B7.

[@TheAlphalimamike]

WhitewalkerII B7 is the only BMW i would buy.

[@verliebt3465]

it's because the B7 has the same amount of BHP but has a V8 instead of a V12, lighter engine means more bhp / ton

[@Chewbacca927]

lets be honest, neither of you can buy this BMW.

[@verliebt3465]

in my case, not brand new, but in 5-6 years time it's going to cost about one 3rd of what it retails for. that number is doable for me, if I wont be unemployed then.

[@WhitewalkerII]

Maybe in a few years. Anyway, I'm more interested in the new B5 Touring.

[@AOTanoos22]

This channel is so underrated !!!

[@ottohahn7160]

It's extremely funny to hear how you pronounce the German words 😂👍

[@AlexRanous]

I'd take a B6 Gran Coupe over the B7 any day. Best looking BMW they make.

[@AnarchoHumanism]

I;m with you, the only thing I HATE is the steering wheel, and the non digital dash! I mean if you started with a 650, why remove the digital dash?

[@romanbecker6711]

A BMW With the interior Quality of a Bentley, i Luv it

[@karlsandin4515]

The intro is myself on the daily , love the videos. Greetings from Colorado

[@goddesseddog]

They need to make a B12 based on 760

[@gatobava]

I'd take the B7 > M760. The peak power of the M760 is at 1500 rpm and the B7 is at 3500 rmp, better for overtaking at freeway speeds. The colors are so boring on the M760, at least with the B7 you can get it in Alpina Blue & Green. Also, I checked with Joe Achilles who has driven both and he says the B7 is a beast.

[@dkentmd]

I think your talking peak torque at those revs...

[@joebloggs4191]

I would choose the Alpina because they are way cooler and rarer then the normal BMWs.

[@SGT-StudMuffiin]

I have an F02 B7 and can't be excited enough to get one of these next year!

[@jeffjardine8411]

Id take the B7 because- in addition to being better looking and more exclusive- it also seems more directly aligned to the Alpina ethos- where as (very sad to say) M has really lost the plot for as long time now and this M Performance stuff is really silly.

[@coejbee]

I love the wheels and interior. Seems like a great car overall for sure. Great video as always!

[@GOINFINITI]

I just love your reviews

[@jays9211]

Love the dog! Your review was pretty good too!

[@skrads]

Brilliant presentation, good dog! 🙂

[@coffeesoles6134]

He's such a good boy just sitting there

[@DreamhopMusic]

Ty for sharing :)

[@googleleavemynamealone9145]

That is such a nice specification in that car, inside and out.

[@WhitewalkerII]

Brilliant review :D

[@donwarner6925]

Love the content as usual. I'd have to go with the B7. V12s are awesome but this thing is just so damn cool. A majority of the public doesn't even know what it is and that scores it points in my book. Now back to planning my Ponzi scheme so I can afford one.

[@Reiner03]

Schönes Review! Wunderbar :)

[@rickyt11]

Haha, You can just see Kumo looking up at you saying, " This asphalt is way too hot." Kumo reminds me of my pet. He loves to ride.

[@mbryant107]

What a gorgeous dog! Nice car, too!

[@alexxanderpurcell4325]

I would choose the B7 only because of the exhaust note, and the styling. But I would much rather have a V12, that Rolls Royce engine would be another level.

[@Aurora_v_cali]

that wood looks amazing

[@Gobbersmack]

That's what she said.

[@Aurora_v_cali]

Gobbersmack mee to

[@fulaan1]

That's one beautiful car

[@mehmet284]

amazing car wow

[@ErikThureson]

Well done.

[@pblnlpalu]

I only have used paddles in my rowing boat, Are there similarities with those in the BMW?

[@armanelahi7069]

YOU ARE AWESOME!

[@spiderali97]

Id pick M760Li bc its a v12 and the B7 is a v8. More is better. #ClarksonLogic

[@chrisjamel8461]

Id choose the B7 because it has the ability to stay tamed, is more luxurious and is better for highway driving. At the end of the day it’s which can u live with the longest. I think the b7 is perfect for fun and practicality

[@PeterFabian]

@9:48 well the buttons are alpina trademark from way before paddles were common... but yeah. I agree.

[@adityajethi7250]

i'd go for 760li...cuz it's got a v12 hence it will supposedly smoother and it gets u bmw individual exclusive....which is nice

[@Only1Science]

Which year did they implement xdrive for the Alpina B7?

[@warrenshaw2186]

Hi, Mercedes Benz 2017 S63 sedan has a listed curb weight of 4806 lbs. which is the same as the B7, not 270 pounds heavier?! Otherwise, great review. I am curious how you would evaluate the new 2018 S63 coming later this year in relation to this model. The new S63 has a rated 0-60 time of 3.4, according to Mercedes Benz.

[@brindaspringfield7993]

We have Alpina 2013. My husband loves his car...

[@stefanfreestylez]

best intro lol

[@realistic.optimist]

My 2014 M5 with Comp Pkg and aftermarket retuned to 800 HP gets 22.5 on the highway when driven with intelligence. Yes, I agree keep Kumo

[@e.simons6964]

Hey Kumo! Do you know if the Alpina (D3) ever going to be for sale in the states? Motoman would have no knowledge of this but I know you do.

[@jays9211]

If price were no object I'd choose the 760 just for the 12 cylinder engine. However the 760 base price is almost $20,000 more than the B7. With price taken into consideration I couldn't justify 20k more for the 760 and would therefore choose the B7,

[@weirdshibainu]

stunning, but probably would go with the 20 wheels

[@IceDree]

Yea, I never been a fan of the Alpina signature shifter & I was waiting to hear your thoughts about it. That's a tough one, M! In one hand, I LOVE V8s & I must have one. In the other, owning a V12 became a life goal of mine …. Soooo flip a coin & 9 outta 10? Lol. Or how about a V12 B7? Like the good ol’ B7 5.7 & B8 5.7? As always, excellent work. M!

[@MotoManTV]

Once again - a great suggestion . . .

[@zhbroder]

beautiful pup :)

[@MotoManTV]

Kumo says thank you.

[@xpcoolzzz]

Please review B7 vs M760Li

[@epicon6]

Alpina has had those gear switch buttons on the steering wheel on all Alpina automatics since a long long time ago. They want to differenciate themselves with them.

[@AOTanoos22]

Your German is on point 👌

[@Harrock]

You can't compare this to an M7 ... the Alpina cars are for people who want a powerful luxury car but doesn't want an M-Car. it's the perfect between Normal and M-Performance but more classic

[@tonyd9312]

Damn this is a sexy car inside and power. I don't understand why Luxury car manufacturers think the exterior has to be the same basic boring style.

[@rickiee54]

bought a 2017 B7 Alpina... simply the finest car I have driven ...

[@donaldboswell7610]

I have a 2017 and like you we Love it! We call it 'Baby"

[@errolmehmetoglou3522]

hello, i cannot choose between thé alipina or the 760, why not both? but bmw has done a better job than mercedes nowadays. congratulations BMW.

[@souravpal9546]

Beautiful dog and a beautiful car...

[@carycoller3140]

I really hate that "tablet" sitting on the dash.

[@minionzatwork6967]

The direct competitor is a Brabus 850 (S-63) and I believe the Brabus would smoke this one all day

[@WhitewalkerII]

The Brabus has nothing to do with the Alpina. It's not in the same league nor the same philosophy.

[@minionzatwork6967]

Well Alpina is a BMW tuner and Brabus is a Merc tuner, thereby direct competitors. BMW's inhouse tuning is M-sport and Merc's is AMG so Alpina is not a direct AMG competitor but rather a Brabus competitor. Therefore a Brabus 850 smokes this Alpina all day every day.

[@WhitewalkerII]

Historically AMG was to Mercedes-Benz the direct equivalent of Alpina to BMW, until M-B bought AMG. BMW Motorsport is an indirect competitor. Both are younger than Alpina. The first car on which BMW Motorsport worked - the 3.0 CSL - was originally a development made by Alpina and based on the 3.0 CS. Since the beginning Alpina has been working with BMW's approval and even collaboration (R&D, engines, production, sales, motorsport...). Meanwhile, M-B doesn't work with Brabus. As I said, Alpina is in a league of its own. Brabus does aftermarket modifications only. On the contrary many modifications on Alpinas are directly made by BMW on the production lines at Alpina's request, then unfinished cars are sent to the Alpina factory where they are completed and then only delivered. Alpina is in a different league. Finally, Alpina produce cars for everyday use - in terms of comfort, handling, reliability, fuel consumption. That's why you can see them regularly in the streets because they are bought by people who really use these cars in the long term - hundreds of thousands of kilometers. How many Brabus buyers really use their cars? For sure they like to show off in them, but that's all. That's why a Brabus is faster in a straight line but let's see on the long term.

[@organickemp2655]

WhitewalkerII Well Said. So let me ask you what's better Alpina B7 Vs AMG 63

[@jeffreytinsley3208]

I would probably choose to buy the Alpina B7 because it's a bit lighter which aids handling and it's also a little cheaper (however considering the price of both of them, does it really matter? Lol.)

[@e.simons6964]

Wow! That's a trick BBS wheel that allows air into the tire! WHAT! 205 top speed?!

[@wordpress4373]

Compared to S8 plus?

[@woostersheer1]

I think I would like the B7 more than the 760, but I think I would choose the B6 over the B7.

[@leroyleggs7606]

B7 Alpina is not as common of a 7-Series like the other models regardless of the Power M7 may produce

[@johann4078]

the switchtronic has to do with a tradition at ALPINA and you gets used to it quickly

[@dmags3082]

Kumo needs to be in more videos. 🐶

[@joebloggs4191]

I'd take the Alpina B7 as they are more exclusive then the 7 series and just that little bit more special but I agree about the steering wheel shifters they should stick to normal paddle shifters and not those stupid buttons!

[@arbeliroz]

10:40 even his dog get exited

[@mihaisilviub.7167]

I'll chose alpina all day long, but please tell me what breed is the dog. Thank you!

[@ebayseller37922]

I thought Alpina switched the turbos for a supercharger on the B7.

[@molo1706]

My dream car , how much does it cost

[@robertmatijasic7583]

B7 of course

[@weirdshibainu]

I like that Alpina is distinct from BMW corporate. they retain there own design and engineering language. amg seems to have fallen victim to mbz corporate homogenization

[@MrCarGuy]

weirdshibainu Don't compare the two. AMG is to MB like M is to BMW. Also, AMG used to be a separate entity in the early 90s.

[@weirdshibainu]

MrCarGuy20 i know they were and they had a different character to the car the...that's my point. .I hope Alpina stays independent

[@yrangom]

M760 seems better option than the B7. The reasons are: - they are both uber 7 series but the "M" has a more prestigious engine. The B7 might be sportier but if I were to buy such vehicle it will be about passing power, prestige and exclusivity which a V12 delivers in spades.

[@Br1anuk]

1, A fantastic review. 2, Wheres the ALPINA decals on the lower front valance? 3, It does not look anywhere near as nice as a S63 AMG.

[@e.simons6964]

Until I/you review the M760 I will reserve judgement, THEN will see what rises to the top of these heaps, Expensive heaps still...

[@MrCarGuy]

I just prefer the last B7 much more. It's more appealing in several ways.

[@empirestate8791]

I would choose the B7 - more fun to drive, higher skidpad Gs, and cheaper.

[@fulaan1]

I think like this more than a Brabus 900. that's saying alot

[@organickemp2655]

fulaan1 Lol I wouldn't go that far. Alpina B7 is number 2 Brabus 900 is Number 1

[@echtogammut]

I'm not the demographics for this car, but the color and interior put this above any other 7 series and dare I say S-Class. My ideal hauler would be a 4 door M2 hatchback/wagon... I know no such beast exists, but it should. The M4 is just too big for me. If they made an Alpina B2 hatchback with the blue and cognac interior... I would be first in line regardless of price.

[@WhitewalkerII]

A 4-door M2 hatchback/wagon is either a 4-door 1 series (it's ok, especially with the M140i), either you want an M version of the 2 series Active Tourer or Gran Tourer. Yuck.

[@verliebt3465]

gorgeous dog

[@utubecomment21]

Have you seen the depreciation on a 7 Series. Soon it'll be worth 50 cents at the most!

[@crazyhandroll]

Alpinas are great, but for the G11 G12 platforms of the new 7s, I don't think this is the best they can come up with. The 4.4 V8, which is very good engine, plus some tuning from Alpinas, that makes it even better, most likely will be replaced with an even higher power unit with less displacement, the most likely result BMW chooses to continue the 4.4, is most likely due to package combination, so I will wait until, BMW revises the 4.4 to 4 litre, and that will most likely be even more interesting, since Mercedes and Audi have gone that route. Then, we will most likely seen the Alpina 7 becomes a luxo rocket.

[@vaughn357]

The Alpina B7, because it will more than likely get better mpg's & look better doing so.

[@kolinstallman3788]

I thought it was a sport sedan until you told me it weighs 4800lbs. Thats 1200lbs more then my e39 sport sedan.

[@j05here]

Cute dog

[@karlp8484]

Didn't anybody tell you to never work with children and animals? Everybody was looking at your dog. Lol. How does Alpina fit in with BMW's AMG equivalent, M-Techic? Now that IS a fully owned subsidiary of BMW also trying to do the same thing? Great review.

[@05Forenza]

B7. Exclusivity. At that price range, that's important. I look for exclusivity at a much lower price range lol

[@mezzmarr1209]

FYI: My dealer would not sell me a B7. Reason: No one can fix them, and I am in the LA area!

[@yassine8muru.v109]

go go go now.

[@yassine8muru.v109]

noce car go too now

[@chidori922]

I died at oh mein gott. Hahaha

[@humanafterall2076]

Nice car, shame about the dogs side kick.

[@003File]

Is the dog a husky ?

[@MotoManTV]

Kumo is proud to say he is one of the few, the proud, the Huskys of California:)

[@christucker8132]

😂😂😂 That intro

[@02DCorona]

M760 > B7 760 better looking also.

[@cherokeegotti4903]

Why are you leaning 🤨🤔

[@hmm2928]

lol the pinnacle of fuel economy

[@bokke7u7]

"Reisen statt Rasen..."

[@stanislous137]

Kumo is thirsty. Stop leaving him in the sun!!!

[@organickemp2655]

Alpina Vs Brabus... M series Vs AMG. Alpina please stay independent like Brabus.

[@williamscott7763]

B7 all day long!