2017 Chrysler Pacifica Review and Road Test - DETAILED in 4K UHD!

[@ChrisTopher-vs9zz]

This is absolutely the very best minivan review that I've ever seen. I've been shopping for a minivan for quite some time and I have literally watched dozens and dozens of minivan reviews. Your review is by far the most thorough, I catching, detailed and highly shots than any other I've seen. It's the most professional video with terrific editing. I can't thank you enough the time and energy that you've spent in producing this high quality video and I'll be sure to look at other videos from you as well.

[@Mike_44]

We just bought this minivan and I'm really glad we did. We really like it!

[@Thebuscommunityleader]

It like 7-8 years, This van still good buy to me.

[@opb7749]

70 decibels at 50 mph. Finally someone has cabin noise info in their videos not just buttons pictures... Thank you!

[@JayLittlefield]

I love your reviews. No one else is as thorough, pragmatic and detailed as you. Keep it up.

[@ethimself5064]

Try the Lemon aid books at the library - not in here

[@efk3733]

This guy knows how to do a car review! Whether you like the car he is reviewing or not, by the time he is done, you know all you want to know. Great reviewing skills! Thanks.

[@stevelang6342]

Fantastic. You are officially better than Consumer Reports when it comes to informing new car shoppers. Also you're a complete ringer for that guy I worked with not too long ago. All the best!

[@hillelshawa51]

I bought a 2017 Chrysler Pacifica Touring L Plus and we love everything about it it's spacious good looking quiet we test-drove Toyota Sienna Honda Odyssey Kia Sedona and the Pacifica was the best of the bunch good job Chrysler

[@cuben8020]

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[@cuben8020]

Hillel Shawa rr

[@Panamarainbow]

Hillel Shawa does the third row recline for passenger comfort?

[@zachl5504]

How is your '17 Pacifica holding up so far? Trying to decide between a Sedona and Pacifica as the Sienna has a pretty dated interior for the price and the newly redeisgned Odyssey is having multiple issues. Would really appreciate your feedback!

[@hectorhernandez4630]

Hillel Shawa how much did you guy's pay for Pacifica just trying to get a fair price ?

[@rkalla]

BTW - the full-stop-and-hold adaptive cruise is one of the MOST FRUSTRATING things about my 2015 Charger 392 SRT - it will hold the stop for 3 seconds, then beep and let go of the stop. I cannot, for the life of me figure out how _that_ is a safer default mode of operation than holding the stop. Really happy to hear it has this. Thanks for calling this very niche/specific behavior out.

[@edwardgrimenstein2164]

Alex, we've owned a 2011 Odyssey EX-L and now a Pacifica Touring-L, both mid-trim levels of their respective brands. Your comparison is spot on. The Pacifica's seats lose to the Odyssey in terms of comfort, but it's chassis and ergonomics get those points back. Add to that the awesomeness of Stow-n-Go and remote start and you've got yourself a winner. Also, the price for our Touring-L in 2017 is the same as the Odyssey's EX-L was back in 2011 (we were able to score $8000 off MSRP on the Pacifica, your dealer experience may vary, as opposed to Honda's refusal to put any money on the hood), representing a better value. Keep up the good work!

[@CaptainDawg02]

Edward Grimenstein Honda does negotiate...you need to go below invoice into their holdback. They also have a much higher resale. Chrysler by giving all this money away, their poor reliability, and flooding the market with the rental cars...it really hurts your ability to sell/trade this van for anything.

[@abebueckert5269]

Chrysler did a fantastic job on this redesign. Hopefully it sells good!

[@A_guan]

I'm 18 and wouldn't mind driving this! Not my first choice obviously but who else wouldn't mind driving this

[@dougn2350]

Minivans are super practical. And the Pacifica looks great. But its no chick magnet. You better get married before you buy one of these...lol

[@highwaycruiser6486]

once you married, you no longer have money for something like this

[@BIGFOOTCHASE]

Annabelle creation

[@Metcalf4297]

Highway Cruiser there is some way to get something like that, just finance, rent to own, and only buy what you need.

[@ravenjames3873]

i love mini vans, but i don't know about that 9 speed.

[@tengu-1949]

As I think of my retirement (and fishing) or just going camping for the weekend, that removable seat will sure come in handy! I love that stow & go. Makes the minivan so much more versatile, like a mini RV. Enough room for an inflatable mattress for one.

[@thereissomecoolstuff]

I have one. Fits a full sheet of plywood. Made a camping slide in out of 3/4" pky. Seat, cabinet, portapotty. Stove. Slides in, use an inflatable mattress small alcohol heater. Very comfortable.

[@dominicbothur7574]

This minivan is amazing! I never liked minivans, but when this came out I did. The seats are awesome and the storage in the second row and the first row are very cool and handy and practical. I usually would go for a three row suv like a Cadillac escalade or chevy suburban, but they are very very expensive. These minivans are cheap and look great. Another thing that I found cool is the gear switch. I've never seen anything like it. Its definitely a nice minivan.

[@baldheadlogic]

Alex, you are truly great at what you do. I would never normally watch a review for a minivan but I did this one.

[@zhaoguanyugary]

The voiceover is hilarious, actually we can't really tell if you didn't tell us

[@yenhongchung7533]

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[@bryceno5385]

Great review! Very nicely detailed. I Love that Chrysler decided to go a whole different route with this all new Pacifica Minivan! I can tell that this van was very well thought out when designing the interior and exterior to make it very practical for everyday use. Also, I like the idea that Chrysler is going to introduce a new hybrid minivan.

[@vickyhubbs6089]

Most informative review available anywhere...thank you for your detailed and easy to follow coverage. After researching all day, the main area of concern is reliability and shifting consistency of the ZF 9-speed transmission, especially holding higher gears too long before downshifting. I personally have questions about gear hunting while towing but no one has reviewed that aspect of the vehicle yet. Other issues are no cup holder or USB charger on the driver's side in the 3rd seat with the vacuum option in the Limited version. Several reviewers also comment on the lower comfort level of the 2nd row Stow-and-Go seats and the non-adjustable armrests on the front seats. Chrysler has taken a major swing at this segment and it is time for me to upgrade my Odyssey Touring. I'm sold after reviewing the car at the dealership and considering the strong: ride, handling, steering and braking reviews out there. That coupled with the quiet and comfortable interior with maximum flexibility seals the deal as consumers wait endlessly for the release of the new Odyssey. If Chrysler would just extend that powertrain warranty to 10/100,000 I'd feel better about this decision. I do feel good about an opportunity to buy an American badge again...even if it is ultimately owned by Fiat and built in Canada.

[@mrnovacan2158]

Built in Canada is a plus ,quality workmanship.

[@stephenathon]

Such thorough! Very test.

[@Accurize2]

That was a voiceover?!?! That was THE BEST voiceover I’ve ever seen! Had you not mentioned it, I wouldn’t have noticed. 🤪👍

[@Theonestrongbusleader]

My dream minivan! Awesome video Alex.

[@Lelybee85]

Oh man we want this van but our practical brain is saying get the ford transit.... this van is perfect except for that center console that makes it so I can't easily get to the babies on a long car ride without pulling over. The ford would give us that. We drive long distance a lot and we are only a family of 4 people total. Your channel has been so helpful!

[@bertramjonessr.6923]

great presentation

[@chihchen8]

Test drove the Pacifica, loved it in every way! Almost got it but decided to go with the 2016 Ody instead because of the proven reliability and dependability.

[@Landofmagic678]

Ehh..bad move.

[@Landofmagic678]

18 months till revamp

[@chihchen8]

i know... Can't wait growing family need it now.

[@Landofmagic678]

Chih Chen lease?

[@CaptainDawg02]

Good choice. Even last model year Honda is better than the Chrysler.

[@jinksonyou]

Awesome review! This is probably one of the BEST reviews I've seen on here, not only with the information you provided but more so how PROFESSIONALLY you did it! I wanna run out to my Chrysler Dealer right now! lol well done and keep them coming!

[@rkalla]

Music to my ears: "we will be reviewing the hybrid shortly" - thanks Alex!

[@gustavomercado1599]

Riyad Kalla hybrids are bad for the animals, humans, plants and for everything on the planet

[@akulranjan]

Gustavo Mercado No, hybrids are better because they are electric

[@gustavomercado1599]

That's what makes them bad, mining and processes generated from the battery production create a lot of toxic waste, instead of co2 a normal car would produce

[@PancakeVibes]

Gustavo Mercado Yes, that’s true. But electric cars are harmful to the environment to make but when you use the car to drive, it’s clean for the environment. While gasoline cars aren’t harmful to the environment to make. But they are harmful to the air when you use the car to drive. Overall, electric would probably be much better cause the car would last 5-15 years.

[@PunxsutawneyDave]

I have been waiting for this review like a kid waiting for Christmas morning. Although it occurs to me that I really just wanted Alex to validate the decision I've kinda sorta already made.

[@randomreviews1461]

Really enjoyed your review. I usually skip but enjoyed watching the full review.

[@DriveAndBeDriven]

Great review, Alex! The exterior styling of the Pacifica is one of my favorite looking minivans, with the Sedona trailing right behind it. I cannot wait until I can review some more Chrysler products. The Chrysler Pacifica seems like the minivan to beat, but reliability will be the toughest factor. Keep up the great work! -DriveAndBeDriven "The Quest To Record The Best!"

[@Andy-we9fc]

DriveAndBeDriven For some reason I recognize you.. I feel like it's from a app called Garage Amino or something.. huh. But until next time, See ya, -Andy294

[@MrDeano691]

Great review Alex. I can't find you on Face Book, do you have a link??? No other Vans have stow and go seating do they? Did you review the Hybrid Van???

[@rayaldridge2506]

Excellent video, Very informative and Great comparison recaps. Keep on doing what you do.

[@PetOwner678]

Most people will never know this but when u get the 8 seater with the center seat on the second row , you will lose the inner armrests on the 2 captain chairs . You have inner armrests only when u flip down on the center seat . Also something to consider is when you get the one with a built in vacuum , u will loose the spare tire , not good when ur always out of town driving long distance with the family . But there is hope , the space on the “stow N Go “ second row hole space will fit the factory inflatable spare . U just have to buy it at the parts counter , it comes complete with jack . Just FYI

[@sonichog]

Wow I didn't realize that. We've been shopping for a new vehicle and I've had my eye on the Pacifica, but we've only test driven the 7 seaters. This is good to know, thanks!

[@balkenkreuz2063]

Man, I wanted to purchase a Pacifica right after the review was over, lol! But seriously, though. This was a very well done and thorough review.

[@denniskeith1474]

Thanks for a great Review. Well done!!! You really made this a complete review with the comparison reviews with other mini vans. You really did a great job with this. Thanks again.

[@bonanderson9398]

Many thanks to Alex. This is an extremely helpful, thorough review!!

[@vishalb84]

Thank you for talking about the Active Lane keep and other safety features, perhaps a demo would be nice.

[@dksvo1]

Thanks for the review even though we own a Pacifica Limited I still enjoy watching reviews. We have about 1,400 miles on ours so far and don't regret the change and after looking at everything on the market and even though from the point of dating we said no Minivan, The Pacifica met and or exceeded our needs and wants. There are a few things that are small I would like Chrysler to look at though. *Auto dimming mirrors extend it to the edge of the mirror or make the bezel bigger, it adds a halo effect and is distracting. *Parking assistance for parking stalls is scary and I still don't trust the vehicle enough as it seems to not get the angle correct and in testing the feature I have lost a parking stall (possible user error still learning about it.) *No latch system not available on both 3rd row outboard locations. *At times the voice commands don't work or not understood which gets frustrating, still haven't been able to figure out how to dictate a text message. there are also times where the voice command translated words inappropriately. *Newly found oddity we use the auto setting for headlights and I don't like that it switches to high beams I would like to have that be a setting I would choose myself. *2nd row headrests don't come off it took a bit to figure out how to make it work with a high car seat. *AWD would be nice the Sienna made the list but dropping something like 2-3 mpg wasn't worth it for us and the sienna is very much a minivan in the bad way. *Last one is just the skeptic in me I would like to be able to turn on and off the noise cancellation to hear the difference as this almost seems like a placebo effect. Still really enjoying it but now I'm looking for snow chains/cables as we want to take the boys to see snow this year.

[@janethod9610]

Wow!!!! Amazing and thorough review. Thank you sooooooooooo much!!!! Best review I have seen after tons of research.

[@Jebeenie24]

I have a 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan that is starting to show it's age. It has served me well. No major problems. Just had regular oil changes, tires, new hoses, and battery. I have been looking at the Pacifica and can not find any info on the adjustable gas pedal. The Town and Country Touring L has it. I am leaning towards the Pacifica, and being only 5"1" would love to have an adjustable pedal as opposed to having to mod it myself after purchase.

[@fpost337]

Best Review of this car, hands down. Thx

[@crumdoggy]

Superb review! Thanks for doing such a comprehensive review.

[@MrOne-vi7ow]

WTF !!!!!! dude you killed it! I FREEKING LUV YOU ! tHAT WAS THEE BEST REVIEW OF ANYTHING I HAVE EVER SEEN ! Because of you my clients paid cash for 3 (three) "Baby" !!!

[@user-ht5ce2it3z]

Thanks a ton for the video. I'm looking into one of these for a city car and occasional camper. Looks great!

[@brucec43]

I drove a Sedona LX for 20 hours. It is pretty wallowy on the expressway. If it's the best then I would stay skip minivans and go with a sporty crossover like the XC90, Q7, Mazda CX9, etc. Go used if you have to, but your family's safety relies on tight handling and braking.

[@tirthb]

Thanks for the great comparison. You have Fuel economy under pro and con for the Quest. I guess, there was no pro :)

[@jowowetan]

Excellent review, Alex! I really like the stow & go feature on the new Pacifica also, the middle seat on the second row seems to be quite comfortable.

[@Trades46]

You would have thought Toyota would be the first one to bring in a Sienna Hybrid given their mastery over their HSD system. Good job Chrysler on beating everyone to the punch. This is one of the few cars from FCA which I think it quite nice. Problem is the Minivan in North America is a dying segment, killed by ironically the less practical but more image 3 row SUV. I didn't care much for the Caravan; it was cheap and felt it, only selling by its virtue of bargain pricing & large size. The Pacifica is a really nice van, a good thing as the new Odyssey is also quite nice. I hope this car succeeds or it may signal the end of the minivan segment altogether. I'm anxiously waiting to see how the PHEV Pacifica will perform. A minivan that can get 30MPG+ sounds glorious.

[@MikeBrokenArrow]

Best review of a car I ever seen. Thank you.

[@cwilsonpa]

Great job Alex; a great and very comprehensive review as always. I look forward to your analysis of the Pacifica hybrid.

[@JamesDoylesGarage]

Wow what a great and thorough review. I'm subscribing Thanks for this post.

[@eddiepejcinovic306]

GREAT MINIVAN SAW IT AT CAR SHOW

[@MrCarpediem6]

intro takes me right back to 86'. tks man :)

[@nouraelebiary13]

excellent review Alex. excellent comparison too.

[@hcwollaston]

A cleverly designed minivan (better than other minivans and much better than any SUV for most users) from a company that is not trustworthy.

[@maksn5751]

I am not a fan of minivans/mommy mobiles... but dang, those folding seats are freaking awesome.

[@dwightjones2424]

I love how detailed you are. I do have a question though. Safety should be at the top of the list. How come there are not safety ratings or reviews used? Like IIHS? For the Pacifica it gets a TOP SAFTY PICK PLUS, which is amazing. I would like to see you add a new category "Safety" please. Thank you for all your hard work you are amazing.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

+Dwight Jones the prime reason is that when we review new cars the IIHS rating is not available when we are filming. After a new vehicle is released it can take up to a full year for the IIHS to test a car.

[@davids1816]

Alex, I'm a big fan and someone who survived a very very grave accident in a Volvo. I'd love to see you dedicate some shorter videos to describing safety comparisons. At the very least you should mention things like how different the results in a small offset crash are between an Explorer and a Pilot. Or even more drastic, an Odyssee and a Quest. There are some cars that you've reviewed that no one who cares about their health should consider buying when the market has so many cars with wonderful safety. Otherwise, keep up the wonderful work.

[@SSS-mp8th]

I currently have an 06 Odyssey and have driven the Pacifica Limited and I was impressed with it. I’ve looked at the Sedona which has some very nice styling but the inability to remove the seats takes it out of the running. I don’t need stow-n-go (although it is nice) just as long as I can remove the seats when needed. One thing on stow -in-go is if the wells are empty kids and stomp their feet on them and it makes a lot of racket. The current Odyssey and Sienna styling do not appeal to me What I would have liked to see is a powered and memory connected steering wheel and adjustable pedals. I have a very petite wife so this would be important for her. I’m looking forward to your review of the plug-in hybrid for three reasons, fuel economy, are the second seats more comfortable since they will not be stow-in-go and price. It may be possible that this will be the cheapest version (trim to trim) if you can take advantage of the tax credits.

[@Wasabi9111]

Great review, Alex. You (and the press in general) are placing too much emphasis on the benefits of the stow n go seats. I rarely ever remove the 2nd row seats - maybe once a year if ever. I think that's the case w/ most owners. And b/c of the stow n go seats: 1) the floor is higher so it's harder for the younger kids to climb in 2) they don't slide to provide more legroom for the 3rd row 3) you can't remove the headrests which compromises the positioning of the car seat installation Also, the headrests in the 3rd row are angled in an extremely uncomfortable position with no adjustment. I actually prefer the 2nd row seats in the current odyssey where you could widen the seats to easily accommodate 3 car seats. Also the 3rd row is much more comfortable. But sadly the current generation odyssey is too noisy and lacks autonomous braking.

[@dksvo1]

wasabi9111 With our little ones going from a Saturn Outlook to the Pacifica they can get in and out much easier and we leave one seat down unless we are going out with someone else in stow. We have about 1,400 miles on our Pacifica Limited and no regrets yet.

[@highwaycruiser6486]

New Pacificas are awesome, lucky you

[@CaptainDawg02]

wasabi9111 great points on the stow-n-go! Definitely check out the '18 Odyssey. Beats the Pacifica.

[@CaptainDawg02]

Unfortunately no minivan has the memory steering wheel & pedals...that's still reserved for luxury vehicles. Definitely would recommend the '18 Odyssey.

[@icecold498]

Excellent review , thank you !

[@InvestBetter.]

This is now the best van in its class. New Odyssey and Siennas are 18-24 months away

[@alphabeta2056]

Nissan TitanWarrior 18 to 24 months Try only a few months away for the Odyssey.

[@allawialsabbar893]

Nice 2017 Chrysler I like it 🚐 good job form you and your family

[@hellkitty1014]

@AlexOnAutos We've had our 2017 Pacifica Limited for 3 months that replaced our 2013 T&C Limited as our company van. We've put about 4500 miles on it already and we continue to be impressed with it. The van shows why Chrysler remains the king of innovation in this class and has been since the '80s. Honda's polarized styling, Toyota's older tech and refinement, and Kia's compromised packaging and inefficiency does not show in the Chrysler. I know the true 800lbs gorilla for the Chrysler remains; Reliability: After 96k trouble free miles in the old but venerable T&C, and thoroughly enjoying the night & day feel of the Pacifica, I say the initial feel is impeccable. I own a 2014 JGC Summit Eco, 2014 Ram 3500 CTD, and a 2015 Challenger Hellcat and I have yet to experience the horrid reliability that many say that Chrysler has. They've had since 2008 to make the Pacifica a great van, and it shows. I was hesitant on getting a 9HP48-equipped Chrysler, but after renting several 2016 Cherokee's and 200s and now owning a Pacifica, they've come quite a ways from the disastrous tuning of those 2014 m/y cars.

[@abelflores5976]

HellKitty 101 there are a ton of morons out there bashing what they don’t know or have ever owned. Chrysler is a great product and has has not failed me one either. 2015 200s owner here and I love the car.

[@deadlyapollo]

@@abelflores5976 my father owns same model as yours. 249k miles, and one destroyed deer (dented tip of hood) and no issues. Basic maintenance only. Not too shabby

[@jackiefreeman8239]

Great review, can't wait to see the next ones!

[@kelvingladwin4929]

Honda Odyssey has been the best selling minivan for several years and I would have liked to see more on how the Pacifica compares against the Honda Odyssey.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

Not in the USA. The Chrysler minivans combined outsell the Honda by 2:1

[@kelvingladwin4929]

Thanks. Sorry for misunderstanding. I am deciding between the Pacifica and Odyssey and given the popularity of the Odyssey would like to see how they compare against each other.

[@CaptainDawg02]

Alex on Autos take out the rental cars & government agencies and that number swings in favor of Honda. Honda doesn't sell their cars to rental car agencies or the government.

[@AMD718]

Excellent, comprehensive review

[@dporrasxtremeLS3]

Great information and details! I subscribe to this important type of time saving information! Thank you...

[@rogerworkman5813]

Very good job and very informative!! Thank you. Roger

[@MarioDallaRiva]

Thanks Alex. The audio glitch at the start made me think of your Russian Counterpart - Alexi on Autos 😎

[@Brent-sc6sc]

Terrific comparisons. Thanks.

[@dongidongi]

Bollywood again! I'm going to be renting a minivan for a week next week in CA - hope to land the Sedona or the Pacifica.

[@JulezWinnfield]

Dongi What's the deal with Indians and minivans?

[@dongidongi]

Practical people, practical vehicle.. that aside - best vehicle for 5 people and a toddler is a minivan.

[@JulezWinnfield]

Dongi Indians are moving into my neighborhood in droves. It looks like a mini-Mumbai.....lol. Toyota Sienna's and Honda Odyssey's everywhere you look.

[@HOTRAINS95]

J High l

[@cletusowns]

Really interested in the hybrid

[@Yoel_Yasharala]

This was so complete - thanks!!!!!

[@davidthompson04]

over the top review, best in the business

[@Jaymac720]

Needs full LED headlights. It would make the front so much more attractive than it already is

[@petrbenda3406]

Very good review as always!

[@kevnguyen7199]

Great review. Very detailed. Can you review the 2018 lincoln navigator and ford expedition?

[@Godfada]

you deserved more subscribers! You videos are a cut above the rest imho.

[@laurenmoldowan]

you are a great reviewer!

[@enriqueconde617]

With the right summer tires mounted on 18inch wheels, this van is capable of .87. of lateral g. I think motor trend has a review on this.

[@OppGunShop]

After watching the reviews we went to test drive on today. Only issue I found that no one has mentioned was how close the head rest is. Found it to be annoying. Can they be leaned back?

[@danperson1]

IMPRESSIVE VOICEOVER!

[@alphabeta2056]

Alex you keep saying software for the transmission has been improved, it has been more then that the biggest thing is they have done hardware changes as well. The newer Acuras and Honda's that use this transmission have all of the same hardware and software updates as the new Chrysler Pacifica.

[@snowsansa1527]

Ours is 2012 Chrysler grand voyager limited 2.8 diesel. The second row don't have the middle seat, so it's easier to walk to the third row, so for me it's nicer than this new one as you don't have to remove the middle seat. and The limited is much nicer . My only wish is hope they produce a four wheel drive as we used to using a Toyota Land Cruiser VX Limited diesel turbo which is very strong, durable and dependable and course can do off and on road.

[@Anikaums]

best review...thanks

[@PartyUpLive]

Nice van but I went with the Grand Caravan. Mainly because I never buy a new vehicle for the first few years of production.

[@DimachkaS]

I love Alex

[@rarindam]

Wish they had a AWD hybrid version, with all the latet driver assist tech that you get in toyota highlander hybrid

[@thainguyen-jf5zu]

this van is one of the best creature product compare to competitors

[@derek8591]

@Alex on Autos We would like to see your review on every vehicles on the market that we can buy in north America...

[@AmericanRoads]

That is quite a beautiful highway you were driving on. Which highway was that, Alex?

[@blakebrenneman]

The dog barfing story...lol. Great review, as always. Thanks!

[@iAmInsaine22]

Has the high beams on just like every single one I pass on my daily commute.

[@alexquiton7279]

Pacifica 2017 really is the best just bought the limited two days ago and I'm so impressed.... I love everything about it. Sooooooo happy!!!!

[@CCandWally]

Why is it audio is often the most painful part of making KZbin videos. Good voiceover though, didn't even notice it right away.

[@jwagner1993]

My next car I think

[@rmwarriors16]

I want to add the Dodge and the Nissan minivans failed poorly in the small overlap test. If safety is your concern during an accident please avoid those two vans. It not worth saving a couple of grand if you lose a leg or your life.

[@jaymoo5674]

Extra thumbs up for the Plymouth Voyager story lol

[@kapkap2342]

2017 Chrysler Pacifica, 2,217 miles

[@itsjustme77]

Hi Alex. I just recently checked out both the Pacifica (non-hybrid) and the Odyssey (2017). I noticed that the step-in height of the Pacifica is taller by at least 1 to 2 inches. This also made the Pacifica feel smaller vertically inside than the Odyssey (I'm 6'1"), when sitting in the 2nd row. For a family that's looking for more space in a vehicle, this may be important, and may be something you'd want to address in your reviews. Also, for some reason I felt that the leg room was more generous in the Odyssey. When you review the 2018 Honda Odyssey, could you please compare the step-in height, leg room, overall spaciousness to other vehicles? Thanks, and as always, your reviews are the best!

[@CaptainDawg02]

Jimmy Ho he has posted the '18 now. He doesn't address the interior vertical height, but I can... It's taller in the Odyssey because they don't have the pointless gimmick stow-n-go. This provides real seats with removable headrests for easier car seat installs as well as more comfortable height for adults in the second and third row. Just an all around better minivan.

[@charlesmarshall2697]

You idiot! Sto-N-Go is what lured me away from my Honda van and into the Chrysler. Way more versatile and also found out that the Chrysler was far superior for towing. The biggest surprise was better reliability than I had with the Honda.

[@CaptainDawg02]

Wait, I am the idiot, yet I didn't purchase a Chrysler? Ok... Stow-n-go is a gimmick, plain and simple. You sacrifice safer seats, removable headrests (I assume you have never installed a car seat), & vertical height in the second row for a seat that can collapse in the floor on the rare occasion you ever need it. Plus, the Odyssey seats 8. Winner = Honda Also, a few hundred pounds of more "posted" towing capacity is not remotely a win (3.6K vs 3K). No one should tow more than 1.5-2K in a minivan, unless you like to replace your brakes and transmission regularly (which they both share the same ZF9 transmission in their lower trim models...Honda gets the boost with the much better 10 speed in the higher trims). Use your head for something other than a hat rack...

[@cadsux]

Crossovers are just "posers". As you said, when it comes to practicality minivans are the way to go, although I would call them "vans," since they are full size vehicles. The term minivan was just an American term for the MPV, and the only ones left here are the Honda Fit and Kia Soul. Remember the 1st gen Caravan and Odyssey were about the size of modern hatchbacks.

[@jockosboy17]

You are exactly right. I have family members that call there station wagon/Dodge Journey there SUV. I'm like no its a station wagon or at best a crossover. People are so stupid.

[@Skyman08]

cadsux yes or like the mazda 5

[@technology-g4m]

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[@Verses01]

Absolutely amazing...

[@lindenwilliams7044]

Hi Alex, Love your reviews. There's no one as detailed as you are in the business.Great Job! I'm in the market for a minivan and I'm a big Honda fan. However, you don't seem to like the Odyssey, I've noticed you keep avoiding it by mentioning the Sienna when comparing with the Pacifica. And we both know that sales of the Odyssey is better than the Sienna. Anyway, I wanted to know (get your input) if I should get one now or wait for the new style.

[@michaelshelnutt3534]

Linden Williams what choice did you make?