12:14 - Run starting an efi bike. Having to touch the starter button on roll starts is a common EFI bike quirk. The ECU needs to know that you want it to start and needs to be 'woken'. The alternator will charge up the capacitor and the engine will start in the event of a flat battery. You need to get over your fear of the lack of a kick starter. I've owned two bikes now without a kick start including my new 300 SEF-R 6 DAYS Sherco and have never, in 340 hrs of riding, needed to kick start them. (you don't have a crank handle on your car, it's not required, same for the kick start) - unless it's an earlier KTM with the self destruct starter. 👍
@duken4evr5 жыл бұрын
Other EFI equipped bikes "wake up" with movement. My '10 FE 450 Husaberg is like that. It bump starts just fine w/o having to tap the starter button.
@utdesertghost1997 жыл бұрын
Great review on the Sherco. There's alot of great bikes many of us US guys are unaware of because they haven't really made alot of headway into the US market...yet I know you working on getting the Beta. Can't wait to get your take on it. so many times I hear you talk about shortcomings on other bikes. One of the things that sold me on the Beta was how well it was equipped. E start, kick backup, extra wide billet foot pegs, full factory F2F exhaust, billet triples, map switch, push button seat removal, rear fender grab handles, easy access battery and air filter, fully wired for street legal including horn minus plugging in the turn signals to the pre wired harness, and the list goes on.. My only complaint, the seat is like a 2x6. but hey, it gave me more incentive to be up on the pegs like I should. Thanks for the awesome videos as always.
@dylanmccallister18885 жыл бұрын
I know. I feel very fortunate, i live near a former Husaberg dealer in Portland and an importer for Shercos in Bellevue WA. There is also a Beta importer here somewhere in either OR or WA. I have seen a Beta, rare birdy to see on the trail. I don't know if there is a GasGas or TM place around here.
@jimji27746 жыл бұрын
I've got a 2013 and it is so good. Better than any of the 4 ktms I had had at that point in both handling and power. Heard they have even more power now. Good bike go buy one you won't be disappointed.
@andresfernandocardenasvida81077 жыл бұрын
i have tried that bike here in mexico and the engine does feel pretty good with the power delivery ,i felt really good twisting the throttle and keeping it on the high revs.
@karinaleszczuk82197 жыл бұрын
If you need full wrap enduro guards, (which I think would be good for the tight trail riding you do) I would highly recommend Cycra's probend handguards. I have these on my bike, and they are great. They'll save you many broken levers.
@Nikola12YT7 ай бұрын
That sound is medicine for the ears
@sethsc777 жыл бұрын
Great review Kyle. Thanks for all the hours you put in to bring that to us.
@utdesertghost1997 жыл бұрын
BTW, The list is based on the 300rr race edition, it also has an easily adjustable power valve and sachs closed cartridge forks which felt very stiff at first but after 30 hrs they are awesome. Don't cut yourself short if you can at all avoid it, go for the race edition. If you can't find one local, message me and I'll get you my contact to the dealer I went through and got a great deal.
@Chalz1087 жыл бұрын
my 2005 sherco 450 has a kickstart... lol 12 years ago they got it right. I'm rebuilding the top end on mine right now.
@cc37757 жыл бұрын
A street legal version would be awesome! Beta 390 or hopefully SWM 300 next.
@SoilworkZA017 жыл бұрын
Good review! Had a look at the Sherco dealer last weekend. Very impressed with the bikes
@MyGasGasChannel7 жыл бұрын
Clay Stuckey has always been a stand up individual. I was disappointed with the way GasGas management handled him! But looks like he has done way better for himself.
@ronibelson7 жыл бұрын
The brakes levers comes the same like ktm.. you can order everywhere , also the wp component and the brakes
@leonarose67384 жыл бұрын
The kickstarter was never removed. The smaller Sherco 4Ts never had them. My 2009 did't have one.
@AZRickD7 жыл бұрын
While not sold on the idea of not having a back-up kicker (the current trend), if I were to purchase one, I would buy a rechargeable 12-volt lithium-ion back-up battery and carry it in my pack.
@footbalr0747 жыл бұрын
I know there's a plethora of bikes on your list to hopefully work through, but take a look at the swm 300, speedy works bought the old husqvarna factory and are pumping out bikes much like the old husky's at a budget price. I don't think they're even being imported yet but an interesting bike.
@AZRickD7 жыл бұрын
Regarding the Sherco's 260 wet weight vs the KTM XC's 235 wet weight, I wonder if a better comparison is a KTM XC-W (or EXC, in 2017-18). The Sherco 300SEF has the lights, wiring harness, and a 220 watt stator and that equates to weight. Take the 2017 KTM 250 EXC-F's dry weight of 236 (generous) pounds and add 15-pounds (two and a half gallons) of fuel and they'r in the same weight class (minus those silly KTM mirrors). At the same time, the Sherco will leave an EXC in its dust. Perhaps the Sherco is more like a bored and stroked and Euro mapped EXC (that actually turns). Weight wise, perhaps the more racy (non-lighted) Sherco 300 SCR would be a little closer to the XC-F ?
@flashdrz6 жыл бұрын
He loves KTM's too much.
@illnino1689427 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle,, i am currently working with Clay to possible get a demo 2017 SEF-R 300 racing 4 stroke. How is the power delivery? is it like a light switch off and on in the tight technical stuff? or is it smooth, this is my main concern. i currently ride a Beta 300rr, and it's a awesome bike. i probably would keep both. how has the reliability been, and fuel mileage so far?
@hamishbrown54947 жыл бұрын
Wr 250 f comes with a few of the things sherco does, like skidplate stock with the bike, trip meter, and such
@Fireballsocal7 жыл бұрын
I think the ignition circuit of the bike isn't energized till the starter is thumbed. Yamaha has a similar system on their YZ***FX bikes. Since there is no key or run/off switch, the ignition would always be on unless there was some system that turned it on or off in the ECU.
@HardcoreWeeaboo5 жыл бұрын
Nice video dude! Do you think the bike can handle 65-70 mph speeds on road/highway without problems?
@brianh84847 жыл бұрын
Kyle, I think the issue with bump starting is the fuel pump. Tapping the starter will wake up the FI. I could be wrong though.
@robw37617 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle this is Rob from South Carolina actually just moved here from Southern California went from Desert to Woods riding big difference they don't have a KTM dealer up here so I had to drive to Georgia to get a KTM don't quite understand why they don't have a KTM dealer out here especially when you have all these Woods to ride him perfect for a KTM after watching your video on the Circo seems like a nice bike but I agree with you on these manufacturers not putting skid plate and not having a Kickstarter but both of my KTM that I've had have had kickstarter's I have a 2017 xc-w 250 by far the best bike I've ever owned went back to this two stroke after years of writing a four stroke and I would never go back to a four stroke still waiting to hear your opinion on the XC w250 you've done a lot of X sees but no X CW's after talking to several people I ended up going with the xc-w and one of those that I spoke to was Malcolm Smith Jr thanks for the great videos keep up the good work
@josephsimpson15045 жыл бұрын
When your bump starting it if you bounce on the back of your seat as you release the clutch you’ll push you’re tire into the ground to give it traction to spin the motor over. I’ve had issues like that on a measly 125 and 150.
@Artie69376 жыл бұрын
Lovely bike but couldn’t agree more with your opinion, great videos mate!
@J0mama15 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for all the detail, excellent review.
@lostinpa-dadenduro75556 жыл бұрын
The 2019 Factory editions now come with Kayaba suspension front and rear. 👍
@myridinglife78737 жыл бұрын
Really great bike, I'm in loved it... How many hours do you have on the Sherco? Keep going with the updates every 30h so we can know what kind of issues we may deal with...
@Exitwoundstudio7 ай бұрын
Excellent review. Oil changes look like a PITA, but not the end of the world. I am looking at 2018 300. My next dirt bike is gonna be my last one. Any idea on engine rebuild parts? I ride in tight single track and way too many rocks. My current bike is a KTM 350 sxf and it’s way too much. Thanks
@daviddeming81027 жыл бұрын
My 2008 Husqvarna WR250 has a seat that comes off like this one. Very easy to remove!
@brennonschwartz85047 жыл бұрын
You do the best dirt bike reviews on KZbin. I'd really like to see a 150 xc w and a like older 125 or 250 mx to enduro conversion
@DirtBikeChannel7 жыл бұрын
We'll have to see about that bike. It's high on my priority list, but I have a Sherco 2 stroke and a Beta 2 stroke on my list before the KTM 150 XC-W
@scarzpt7 жыл бұрын
Great review. Many Shercos in europe... Wich cam do you use for your films?
@danssubscriptions7 жыл бұрын
Nice review Kyle. Thank you.
@danielfishman30816 жыл бұрын
How is this bike holding up after 1 year of riding? Engine? Bearings? Plastics etc? I think this bike is awesome but I am still skeptical.
@Maicowerk7 жыл бұрын
Sherco is popular in making Trials bikes so not a new company, about 20 years old now, but ya, not as popular to dirtbikes as they are known in Trials.
@Tracks7777 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Keep it up!
@ttreb487 жыл бұрын
I would like to see how this compares to the KTM 250XCF.
@carmane28947 жыл бұрын
That dash computer is identical to what comes on the husky TE and KTM Xcw and possible some beta models
@flashdrz7 жыл бұрын
There's no return throttle cable on there, no wonder it works so easy.
@Welsh-Trials-Enduro7 жыл бұрын
Are you going to review a beta RR? I've got a 17 300 standard, I love it. Looking forward to your review if you do one
@PocketXxArrow7 жыл бұрын
i know this is a dirt bike channel but how do you think this bike would handle as a supermoto on the street
@Tracks7777 жыл бұрын
Great! Keep it up!
@cadwarrior7 жыл бұрын
great review! will you review and get your tought on the ktm 500 in the future? 10 pounds lighter than this sherco!
@Augis3de7 жыл бұрын
cadwarrior i wanna see 500 exc review too!
@DirtBikeChannel7 жыл бұрын
I don't have it in my plans for the next 6-8 months... Could be later though.
@bhuizer57 жыл бұрын
10 lbs lighter with a full tank of fuel? I think you are getting wet weight (w/fuel) and dry weight mixed up.
@cadwarrior7 жыл бұрын
bhuizer5 dont think so, 2017 ktm 500exc is 109kg = 239.8pounds dry, add 10 pounds for the fuel = 250 pounds +/-, sherco is 260 pounds from Kyle measure, 260-250=10
@bhuizer57 жыл бұрын
The KTM EXC only holds 10 lbs of fuel? We're grasping at straws here, just saying 10 lbs lighter for the 500 EXC is a stretch. I bet the 500 feels like a tank on the trail compared to the Sherco, that's a lot of bike.
@jebus75567 жыл бұрын
Ktm seats only have 1 bolt to take the seat off but that system is way easier still 👍🏻
@lenbong12347 жыл бұрын
If dirtbike companies are willing to remove the kick start to drop 2lbs they're for sure not gonna put HD tubes in bikes. They'd rather they're weight #'s be lower... unfortunately
@Trad-Am7 жыл бұрын
Been curious about the sefr for a while but leaning beta at the moment 390rr 300rr or possibly xtrainer. Also hoping you'll get a hold of one of the new Husky te 300fi when they're available may stick with my 14 Husaberg fe501 till we see were those fi 2ts land.
@nettnils71417 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle I ride in Switzerland a Honda crf 250l. And now my radiator is gonne. The bike cost at new price 4970CHF. And for the new radiator they will over 700CHF. I find that strategy from honda very bad😕Sorry for the bad english😂
@adamdyment97327 жыл бұрын
Great videos. I'd love to see your take on dual sports. converted or factory.
@youreaddicting7 жыл бұрын
You look like Spider-Man from the back with that gear on
@xxDD20xx2 жыл бұрын
What is a good used price on this bike 2021?
@wayward037 жыл бұрын
you should look into the beta 390rrs and the swm sr300r .
@sterlinsmith16517 жыл бұрын
@Dirt Bike Channel, do you recon a steering damper would be appropriate or helpful?
@DirtBikeChannel7 жыл бұрын
Some guys like to run them, but I don't like to do it anymore. Makes the bikes feel to heavy for my liking.
@Dedow8TheMCPimp7 жыл бұрын
Love these videos!!!
@kawasaki0000000000007 жыл бұрын
hey man you should do a review of that stand if you haven't already.
@jakewaggoner41967 жыл бұрын
Another reason the KTM 2 strokes are winning. They have both.
@jpbova7 жыл бұрын
no kick starter and you can't bump start it? Seems to be a huge issue to me
@thanksskeletor48127 жыл бұрын
Justin Bova it's a non issue. you can bump start it. and there is no reason to have a Kickstarter system with shercos. their starter motors are bulletproof. you can also purchase a little jump starter for the more paranoid people out there.
@Anthony_aus7 жыл бұрын
E-start doesn't feel as good though. It's so damn pleasing to give a solid kick from tdc and have a bike just fire up. I'll NEVER buy an offroad bike without a kick starter.
@danssubscriptions7 жыл бұрын
Justin Bova I've got over 65 hours on mine and have never had a problem starting it. I'm still on the original battery. I've also bump started it several times without an issue.
@hadfield4wd7 жыл бұрын
Resto do you buy a car without a hand crank? While I do like a backup kicker I think they will eventually go away.
@ClayGGOR7 жыл бұрын
If you ride for 10 more years you will ride bikes without kickstarters. No manufacturer will have them in the future.
@ronibelson7 жыл бұрын
Great vid! in 2017 no need kick... the cars come without kick and most of street bikes come without kick... its just old thinking... second the clutch lever is the same like ktm no need special parts
@DirtBikeChannel7 жыл бұрын
I have been stranded with a bad battery twice on different bikes in the past. Once, on a cold morning, the bike wouldn’t start and we had to pull it with a tie down off the back of the truck since we were in sand making bump starting a cold 4 stroke bike almost impossible. I have also had friends in my group with bad electrical connections where the e-start wouldn’t work after they got dirty, while we are 50 miles away from the truck. On one ride without a kickstarter, two of us worked for 30 minutes to bump start a bike. Keep in mind that all of these bikes were less than 2 years old. I can see that the industry is moving this way, for various reasons. Part of it is that the bike manufacturers don’t realize how far away from civilization we are taking these bikes. We aren’t at the track just a block from the truck! I just think it is a mistake to remove them given the real world experience that I have had.
@ronibelson7 жыл бұрын
With a 20 grams booster on the backpack you will have warranty and its cost 20-50$
@cdt262hi7 жыл бұрын
totally agree, we haven't had hand cranks on cars for a while now
@Fireballsocal7 жыл бұрын
The sealed lead acid battery isn't a negative in my mind. I could lose the couple of pounds you save in a weekend of riding. The lithium batteries, while lighter and more powerful, need a special charger and don't perform in the cold weather. Lots of guys running lithium are kick starting their bikes in the frigid cold while folks running the good ol sealed lead acid just thumb the starter. About the only caveat is stay with yuasa brand batteries. They last many years compared to no name Chinese replacement batteries.
@madman4320007 жыл бұрын
Fireballsocal I used a lithium battery in the past and in temps under 40°f it would crank slow for a time or two then be normal. ie push button engine turns over a couple times, let up, wait 10 seconds and push it again and it would turn over a little easier, wait, then try again and it would start. usually only the first time in the morning. Flawless otherwise. That was a ktm 530exc.
@Fireballsocal7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's the cold the lithium doesn't like. In colder weather, they are even more temperamental I've heard.
@WholesaleTurbos7 жыл бұрын
I charge mine with a normal charger. As long as its not on trickle charge you should be fine
@brianh84847 жыл бұрын
Fireballsocal can't remember where I read it but apparently you thumb the starter button on a cold morning and it will warm the battery (lithium) Wait for 30 secs then fire it up. I have earth X lithium and it has been flawless over 4 years.
@Fireballsocal7 жыл бұрын
As I understand it, it's not the trickle charge that's the issue but the desulfation on many of the modern smart chargers designed for lead acid, coupled with the charging demands of lithium. The desulfation mode will damage the lithium ion, not a big deal if you are just using a dumb charger. Worse though is that lithium likes to be between 60% and 80% charged. A standard charger will try to top off the battery. A lithium charger will keep the lithium battery happy. Again, not a big deal for most riders as you have seen from your experience.
@glennedwards13087 жыл бұрын
Great review! Are you going to test the Beta 300 race edition?
@DirtBikeChannel7 жыл бұрын
The only one I can get my hands on anytime soon will be the stardard edition Beta. That will be coming soon.
@madman4320007 жыл бұрын
Waiting for you to test a Beta, they also have one button release for the seat.
@DirtBikeChannel7 жыл бұрын
Beta coming soon.
@justinprinsloo46934 жыл бұрын
I think i might buy myself a Sherco SEF-R 300 After this i totaly changed my mind cause i ride a yz250f 🤷♂️but it has enduro stuff on it
@coxyiv3137 жыл бұрын
When will you be doing a full review like this on the 2017 250 xc?
@DirtBikeChannel7 жыл бұрын
Good question. So busy lately with everything else. I've been wanting to branch out and do something other than Orange.
@stevemoltisanti56697 жыл бұрын
Better than the 125 SE? I'm stuck between the two. East coast ruts and rocks.
@stevemoltisanti56697 жыл бұрын
I tried the 2018 WR 250F but only rode around a track.
@jap338kx7 жыл бұрын
Have you done a review on a beta xtrAiner?
@jap338kx7 жыл бұрын
Cool bike! I love exotics
@EpleJr7 жыл бұрын
Can you do a dirt bike collection?
@Cresp0PT7 жыл бұрын
beta 300rr incoming? great review.
@91CR2507 жыл бұрын
@dirtbikechannel/ kyle brotherson, the beta 390 or the 300RR would be killer!
@DirtBikeChannel7 жыл бұрын
Beta coming soon.
@flashdrz7 жыл бұрын
That's cool, no return throttle cable.
@bramvanbellingen45345 жыл бұрын
it kinde off looks like the have stolen parts from a 2001 husaberg??
@spencerclegg16067 жыл бұрын
My kids KTM 65 has the quick release seat like this Sherco. My KTM doesn't ;( ...not sure what KTM was thinking.
@yellowgreen52777 жыл бұрын
What would it 250 two-stroke be comparable to in street bike form
@backyardboosters91287 жыл бұрын
Eh hard to say they run high 12s in the quarter mile.
@backyardboosters91287 жыл бұрын
Cbr 600 but to add, in the off road world they're kinda like between the 750s and liter bikes of the street bike world with 450 and 500s being of similar stature in the off road world to liter bikes of the road world.
@404marc7 жыл бұрын
Christini??? when?
@sushishin12 күн бұрын
Ca a été créé à 1h de route de chez moi et ca c'est incroyable 😂
@NigelNaughton7 жыл бұрын
You pay for these? Wouldn't it be more accurate that all the people that help you and give you money are actually paying for the bikes too? Might want to clarify.
@DirtBikeChannel7 жыл бұрын
If you want to put it that way, then I'd have to also say the my full time employer at my day job pays for them :) I pay for them. 100% brother. The money I earn on KZbin and Patreon IS THE HARDEST money I have ever earned in my life. That is a fact. It's only a few dollars per day. I treat this like a part time job after hours. I put about 20 hours per week into this on top of my full time job. It is a sacrifice.
@michaelsteven10907 жыл бұрын
Hail to the 4 stroke!..
@augie1867 жыл бұрын
Can you buy a husky next
@mgazaille7 жыл бұрын
You need some seat time on a Beta RR390!
@DirtBikeChannel7 жыл бұрын
Beta 300 coming soon.
@flashdrz7 жыл бұрын
The four stroke KTMs won't kick start with a dead battery anyway. will they?
@googleuser15227 жыл бұрын
"Yeah it's a paid review, I paid for it!!" Lol that's a great way of putting it. Up next, a Beta. 'Cause you haven't heard that enough already ;-)
@DirtBikeChannel7 жыл бұрын
Beta coming soon.
@googleuser15227 жыл бұрын
Nice!! Were you able to find a 300RR Race?
@DirtBikeChannel7 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I haven't found the Race edition. I'll most likely start with the standard edition at this point.
@karinaleszczuk82197 жыл бұрын
Heres the link to Cycra's probend handguards: cycraracing.com/products/handguards/wrap-around-handguards/
@rowanthomas64287 жыл бұрын
cool
@flashdrz7 жыл бұрын
No juice, no fuel pump, you're not gonna kick start it anyway.
@craigbrad627 жыл бұрын
I thought sherco was a Spanish brand
@markmtbrider7 жыл бұрын
fastYZR french , big into trials.
@mikeowens19447 жыл бұрын
Cobalt blue
@endurobandit7 жыл бұрын
Man you should be sponsored by KTM by now! If I were you I'd try to get a serious bike brand sponsor that suits your riding, because YOU SELL BIKES plain and simple!
@DirtBikeChannel7 жыл бұрын
They don't care about me. I have reached out to them. They don't care.
@endurobandit7 жыл бұрын
Dang, that's just stupid. It wouldn't take much for them to give a little since they are getting alot from you already. That's just stingey of them.
@PatWendorf7 жыл бұрын
They only have so much money, so they sponsor racers at the highest levels of the sport. Despite that, they must realise that we are (35-60 year old men with disposable income) their bread and butter when it comes to sales. Maybe you'd have more luck with Yamaha or Honda. They're both literally 10x larger companies with image problems in the off-road space. I'd think Honda would be all over the family friendly, responsible riding stuff on your channel.
@aadthomas7 жыл бұрын
Look at a Beta 480rr,test that bike, than you are really smiling.....