2017 SIHH Girard-Perregaux Laureato | Rant&h

[@georgeplatis]

This is the first time I came across any of your reviews and I have to say that GP certainly did not deserve this kind of language and treatment. I personally own one timepiece by them and find it excellent. Am I biased? Perhaps, but by god you seem to be too. Degrading a brand with 200+ year history is not to be taken up lightly. I can assure you anyone who knows anything about watches does understand the value and can name a few models of this brand. Damn, they have produced masterpieces such as the Opera Three and if you are not aware of their accomplishments then perhaps you should do your homework prior to pretending to be watch expert. I do agree they are not on top of their game the past years or as desirable as other brands and will definitely not deny the common features you refer to but like I said, you need to be more respectful and educated on what you comment on. Rant completed :)

[@my2l]

Absolutely, this guy shows a complete lack of knowledge on brand history, in fact the laureato came out earlier than the nautilus and anyone with a bit of watch knowledge can name the three golden bridges as the gp icon. What a joke this guy is.

[@SuperWeifeng]

Only here after 2 years and completely agree on this statement. This guy is a joke. GP is a brand with history. It does not deserve this. GP watch owner knows the value of the watch.

[@aleabogado6703]

maybe it's because he has not a GP laureato.

[@dechalertsumitkul8066]

GP is not a mass market watch. It’s for someone who knows GP and what’s it stands for. Rich history and tradition.

[@عيسىالمهري-ن2ظ]

It's a nice watch!!! What's your problem

[@Jasemba]

Damn that's bad style, no one, especially a young man like you shouldn't talk about an almost 230 year old watch manufacturer like you just did - even if they did what Girard Perregaux did.

[@dtith]

No reason to bash GP for 'ripping off AP' when Gerald Genta designed them both. Persons taste is whatever they want, not everyone wants a royal oak anyway

[@khalilelfakhri8243]

Donnell Tith or not everyone can afford a royal oak. Some would say

[@FatSamEIE]

Genta didn't design the Laureato- it did come before the Nautilus which he did design though

[@chobochocobo6416]

fast forward to 2021, can you still tell the difference between a tapisserie and a Clous de Paris?

[@nomansland120]

The irony of saying "There are 34 models and to me it just seems ridiculous" - at the same time you keep putting it up against the Royal Oak which at this very moment has 115 "ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN" variations out.

[@GodZji]

Thank you so your video. I bought the blue dial after I watch this.

[@acmorgan8461]

GodZji holy shit, me too. Just today. I love to buy watches that piss off little fan boys. I got a Blue 42

[@zubinsohrabmorris2010]

1. The AP has a nut and bolt look, the laureato has an elegance that is so different. 2. to say that they have stolen a design is like saying nobody can use a round shape or a rectangular shape or an oval shape or a square shape other than the first maker. 3. GP has always been a watch appreciated at a different level of consumer with a different taste. 4. there is no complaint about the quality of the material or movement. 5. if i bought an AP i would do so to impress rather than for a horological reasons.6. i think modern buyers are rattled by tradition and possibly a feeling of not belonging to certain watch brands who are not at the level of VC or patek but better than others.7. GP does not need to justify their heritage.8. if the watch has quality pay for it or stay away.9. yes , unfortunately GP does not have a resale value but many buyers buy for love and not with the intent to resell. this is not a luxury car purchase. 10. it certainly has all the elements of the earlier GP watch, may be you cannot see it. 11. normally i do not respond but what got me is the audacity with which you used the words STOLEN. 12. may be you need to mature a bit. 13. At this rate every ETA mechanism in a watch would be a stolen watch. 14. i wonder if AP used the earlier design of GP and gave it some screws and bolts.15. Don't compare a tool design with an instrument of elegant design. 16. any way every watch lover including yourself is entitled to his views which have to be respected.

[@angelusavila3832]

Christian this video just made you look bad.

[@pagemaster9600]

laureato is italian and it means graduated from university

[@pagemaster9600]

i don't think speaking my mother language could be considered homework

[@FatSamEIE]

The graduate- the film had been translated as il laureato in Italy and the name was inspired by that

[@almeladze]

Yes! I forgot to mention that as #4 in my rant above!

[@lifelessperson1993]

The AP Royal Oak is an objectively beautiful watch, but in this case give me the more accessibly priced GP Laureato. The softer lines just look easier on the eyes. That it imitated the Royal Oak didn't bother me too much then as I didn't have interest in the watch or the brand, but it doesn't disturb me now. Hope they do well with it, but I agree that brands need to find their own footing/ identity. Looking at you TAG.

[@cadavis130]

When I think of GP I think of the Golden brigdes. I think they make some great watches

[@bzdtemp]

Talking about displaying ones ignorance. Christian - an advice - take a proper look into what GP is and their Laureato before you embarrass your self any further. Also maybe look into what is considered polite language since the subject here isn't rap music.

[@Steve-fx6ej]

That bracelet is more Nautilus than AP

[@sammychambers5815]

Christian do you still have the same view of the laureato a year and a half on?

[@kentbibby8027]

Closer to the IWC Ingeneur than the AP. It came out before the IWC and before the Nautilus...and it's a fkn beautiful watch

[@flyingphoenix113]

It looks to me like the AP Royal Oak and the VC Overseas had a baby. That said, GP is famous for having horrible resale value in recent years, so this could be a bargain RO in the coming years. And, it's actually a credible watch brand which has a history in haute horology. Additionally, the Laureato looks miles better than the PP Nautilus IMHO.

[@almeladze]

"Additionally, the Laureato looks miles better than the PP Nautilus IMHO" - Alleluia! Finally, somebody that thinks Nautilus isn't the god's given gift to watch lovers! Thank you!

[@flyingphoenix113]

@@almeladze, it's not a *hideous* watch, but it's also thoroughly boring. It took risks conceptually (a steel sports watch from one of horology's most conservative houses), but the design was inoffensive to the point of annoyance. The RO's geometric, angular design was a sharp departure from the company's history which is a big part of the reason it worked. To put it succinctly, the RO is successful IN SPITE of the rest of AP's portfolio. The Nautilus is successful BECAUSE of the rest of PP's portfolio.

[@almeladze]

@@flyingphoenix113 IMHO PP is just plain ugly but I hear your theory and dont disagree with it

[@scottlalonde2878]

Entertaining video from a few years ago, thank you, Christian. Disagree with just about all of it

[@michaelgabel6246]

Just bought laureato chronograph and it is stunning. Prefer over AP any day!

[@carlosentsberger234]

Come on people, there's the GERALD GENTA factor in all of those designs.... AP Royal Oak = Genta, IWC Ingenieur = Genta, Vacheron Constantin Overseas = Genta, Hublot = Genta, Bvlgari Octo = Genta, Patek Phillipe Nautilus = Genta.

[@aaronspektor2624]

Carlos Entsberger The Vacheron was designed by Hysek. The Hublot Big Bang was created by JC Biver, "borrowing" ideas from the Genta designs. So No. they are Not all Genta designs, but.....Yes... If not for Gentas original porthole idea... none would exist.

[@TruLai]

Well the one good thing I can think about the Laureato is that you can actually buy one haha. Try finding a Royal Oak in today's market.

[@mbzaman1]

you are absolutely right - I got one today - what a sold watch it is..........

[@andiendy]

just... fly down! I don't think you know enough about market and these brands history. it's a fashion that started because luxury brands were losing money after the advent of the new 'sport watch' or 'tool watch', and they just created more expensive and design sport watches to be on the market again (Genta and so on). They actually don't steal designs, the things that you talk about are just basic forms and elements (octagon, H shaped bracelet? nothing new, there's an entire history just for steel bracelets!). You know, they're just brands and they just sell objects. Do you know that the majority of people buy AP just because of the fame that it has? That's just thanks to the last CEO.

[@demonvoidx]

If vintage Girard Perregaux watches dont have much of a market then is it possible to get them at very affordable prices?

[@jklimhub2]

I will buy one, superb watch

[@acmorgan8461]

James Lim I just did. Blue face 42. This review pushed me to the purchase. Also look on eBay or chrono24 for a used blue face, there are none, only new. Three years you’d think people would flip. It seems to me people are keeping them and that’s a very good sign.

[@acmorgan8461]

James Lim did you end up ordering one?

[@jareddanaraj9017]

So did I... this ignoramus is full of it. Anyone who has actually held it in their hands would appreciate the beauty.

[@jentopplays6947]

@@jareddanaraj9017 agreed

[@lefroy1]

The outspoken child who 'knows everything'. What dreary bores they are.

[@officialpartychannel]

so much GP hate

[@jamesg4670]

Isn’t t this the same shop that made a video dedicated to the bulova royal oak and sold a beat up quartz model for like 2k!?!?!? I guess there was enough profit margin to warrant that because theres no money to be made with gp the prices are already low due to lack of marketing and brand cache..which is fine by me as a lover as fine timepeices aside from rolex most people around me wouldent know the difference between a gp or jlc...but inagree that original 14k price tag someone must of been high like you said it doesn’t have the brand cache to charge that

[@jamesarthur6962]

Love the top with the three watch designs, brilliant.

[@flyingphoenix113]

Also, Christian, it's worth noting that GP has only one really iconic design, and that's the tourbillion with the three golden bridges. They tried to implement a single-bridge tourbillion on the Laureato Tourbillion model, and I'll leave it up to you if it looks attractive or not. Nevertheless, GP is now finding itself in the same place as a lot of other haute-horology and dress watch companies. They want to take advantage of the highly lucrative sports and dive watch segment (which GP HAS to do if it wants to survive), but their iconic features don't fit a sports watch. The end result is as follows: you either get a sports/dive watch which has no identity and could have been made by anyone, or you get a sports/dive watch which looks too formal, bulky, fragile, etc. for the role it's supposed to fill. IMHO, the GP Laureato standard model fits the first mold, and the tourbillion version has a foot in both ponds (not instantly recognizable as GP unless you recognize the bridge tourbillion, but the bridge and tourbillion look odd and out of place).

[@greg2502]

GP has been doing the Seahawk sport watch for decades

[@chouandsherrie]

what do you think today?

[@JizzyNinja]

Where’s the 6 month update? :D

[@sir3612]

it's seems that the royal oak isn't just AP's only watch, now it's everyone's watch

[@FatSamEIE]

I think it's a nice watch from a great brand, it's available to buy (unlike the APRO) and you don't look like a footballwr/rapper/drug dealer/jersey shore type. Also you can grab one for 50% and other than royal oaks, nautilus' and sports rolexes you would be crazy not buy discounted online so for me it's a decent buy at that price. The APRO, nautilus, oysterquartz, bulgari octothingy, omega constellation, vc overseas, Piaget polo, iwc ingeniuer, hublot etc etc they all are either genta designed or genta inspired and there's only so much you can do with a 38-42mm wide watch. There's cartier santos watches that came out before the whole lot and have aspects that have been borrowed. It's like complaining that every musical artist is copying the Beatles.

[@iimaniDAVID]

The Piaget Polo S is also "design poached". Everybody seems to be poaching Royal Oak/Nautilus.

[@hacker007300]

yes i agree 1000% altho the watch is cool

[@greg2502]

Of course you realize that the GP Laureto came out before the Nautilus...

[@stanlee3619]

I came here after watching Federico praising this watch, and mentioning you bashing this watch. I agree with your points, and admire you for your honesty.

[@bzdtemp]

What a blow horn this guy is. Not only is there a lot of ill informed dissing towards GP going on here, but the language used is so bad it should have *beeps* applied. Such a bad way to advertise a watch site and accusing other watch sites of taking pay for not writing news just sound like Trump shouting "Fake news".

[@almeladze]

Hey! Leave Trump out of this! TRUMP 2020!!!

[@fugasx]

Hey Christian, what do you think about the Girard perregaux chronograph 1999, the black dial version?

[@louiemadeit3541]

with a straight face and say "come on..really?" made my day.

[@NoOne-ki3bm]

YES!!! I love these passionate rants where you leave nothing in your wake but scorched earth. Don't always agree with you, but there's no denying these are brutally honest opinions from a real person. Keep up the great work and sharing your knowledge with the rest of us.

[@Stafo85]

just stop it... of you don't get it.. you don't get it

[@jackfinlayevans3428]

In my opinion the best thing they could do would make and market the hell out of a dress watch, practically nobody is making one and people actually care ...

[@thomask1711]

why not the IWC ingenieur on the t shirt? :( might still pick one up.

[@thomask1711]

the bracelet of the Laureato looks a lot like the modern IWC ingenuer to.

[@pedrocbdias1]

you're totally right but the Piaget Polo S is the same rip off copy, and it passed quite good from every blog...

[@thomasmoll8822]

Tapisserie =/= clous de Paris. At least in my book.

[@gutsynin6156]

He says that this new Laureato has stolen design elements from RO, then at 8:44 admits that yes the old Laureato had a thinner octagonal bezel. So making the bezel thicker now makes it a RO ripoff? His personal bias is clouding his reason and judgement. Arrogance and immaturity on display here. I won't be taking my information from this guy anymore.

[@sohamparab7436]

Gotta have myself a trublliown

[@SuperWeifeng]

Seriously I find it funny when people keep on saying Laureato copying Royal Oak. First the dial is different. Its not the same as RP dial at all. You need to spend time with the watch and not being biased towards RP or Nautilius. Do you even know that RP and Nautilus not even using their own movement? People buy GP watch not for investment. We buy GP watch because we know the value of the watch.

[@ozaawaa56]

How could they be serious? 15k? That's just insulting

[@acmorgan8461]

Austin Tschirhart don’t believe it. They sell for under 8K all day. What you won’t find is used ones because once they buy them they keep them.

[@nukiepoo]

A neophyte watch snob boing through puberty

[@sanjayhiro]

I couldn't agree with you more. We have been Piaget dealers since 1978, I just wish these arrogant Swiss mofos would actually take your advise because they seem to ignore the retailers.

[@galvdeck]

They are all Gerald Genta designs

[@petercritchell4292]

Your analysis is lacking detail and nuance. First let’s start with the fact that the rip-off constitutes fundamentally a shape - specifically, the octagon. Are all rectangular watches a rip-off of the Cartier tank? Does that go for the Reverso? No, because it flips around? Your video starts with the original Laureato, which if you really look at it totally melds a circle and octagon into eaxh other, so that neither dominates. It vibrates in a space between those two shapes and, given what a failure the Royal Oak was at that time, hardly seems likely as a rip-off, but rather an attempt to take an idea and expand on it - make it better. Which it is. Which leads to my second point. The modern Laureato certain emphasizes the octagon at the expense of the circle, but - especially if you look closely at the polished versus brushed surfaces - still melds the two in a way that contrasts favorably with the AP. What is the AP? A porthole octagon with screws in it - nothing more and nothing less. Brutishly stylistic at best. What does a modern Laureato look like? Not just a “softer” version, but an entirely more sophisticated, interesting version. A better version. So even if you claim it to be a rip-off, it is really one up on its inspiration. Then there’s the Patek Nautilus. Not a rip-off because it’s “more different”? So we’re talking degrees? And you get to say how close is too close? Ok how about the octagonal Bulgari watches? Is Genta ever going to get called out for COPYING HIMSELF? Thirdly, and lastly, let’s talk about the rip-off concept. I have the GP Laureato chronograph with blue dial and it is stunning - far more interesting, beautiful and refined than the similar AP version. At least to me. Guess what else I own? A Glashitte Original Panoreserve. OMG. The “poor man’s” Lange Sohn right? Certainly if you compare the Lange 1 moonphase to the GO Pano moon phase, a total rip-off right? But no, you have nothing but praise for the GO in your video, even while noting the resemblance. We are talking, friend, about design - which is an art. The circle combined with octagon is a DIFFERENT artistic vision from what is a basi. shape Gerald Genta “STOLE” from nautical paraphernalia. Was he original and did he create a shape that, like, say, the CIRCLE, seems to work with watch faces? Yes. Does that mean any later iteration, such as the Laureato, is a rip-off merely because it heartens back to that germinating seed? I day no. If I’m right, send me a GO moon phase as a tribute. Or do a video and admit you might have been wrong.

[@mohammedhassan3848]

christian i am considering the girard perregaux sea hawk sea hawk the one with the blue dial with orange and black bezel as a beach diving watch , it can be bought for 6k on second hand market , do you think its a good buy , cheers from egypt !!

[@AhmadRaza-qo6vc]

mohammed hassan salaam just buy a Rolex. or do your hajj. may allah grant you jannah

[@jaime4022]

Really Christian? This from the guy that was selling an obvious ripoff from the Paul Newman Daytona and couldn’t have nicer things to say about that obvious Daytona clon?

[@williambrownlee9684]

There is a market for a softer looking Royal Oak. If you’re going to bash them for stealing then you have to bash everyone who has ever made a chronograph. Just saying.

[@markspencer8284]

Hi Christian, I agree with you, as soon as I saw this release I instantly thought of AP. I was thinking this might have been a lot cheaper than AP, thinking if the watch were tudor level prices, it might be worth considering. When I saw the price I had to pick my jaw up from the floor! All the best, Mark.

[@chavdarkozarev6715]

6:10 - "turble-yown"...

[@khaledal-habib777]

This is what you think about Gerald Perregaux . With all respect your thought your review very weak.

[@accrodemontres2676]

You’re so rude man.....

[@NoOne-ki3bm]

It looks like it's predecessor and the Royal Oak.

[@francescopapi5344]

I might get flack for this, but as much as i really like the Royal Oak, AP really has become a one watch brand. For this reason i find it hard to put it up there in prestige with the likes of Rolex, Patek, JLC etc.. I agree for the rest of it, 11000 is a lot of money imo, once one saved up to that one could go the extra mile to get to the basic or used APs, or save several grand and go with the IWC Engineur...

[@holytiger89]

sea wolf is zodiac

[@TheoandHarris]

holytiger89 Hahahaha I meant Sea Hawk!!!

[@peterpan6812]

1. if you d pronounce it correctly, it would sound good, swiss/french. 2. they have been producing Laureatos years before, last one 1996 Laureato olimipico looking almost identically. 3. Girard Perregaux is older than AP (1791) 4. What about Hublot Big Bang, and IWC Ingy, Vacheron Overseas etc (ok they actually engaged Genta) so why blame Girard Perregaux so heavily??? 5. love you and your channel anyway and i can see your point and totally accept your opinion. 6. doesnt it look nice anyway?

[@boo3bood1]

It's not AP

[@davec3651]

Huh? I think this Laureato looks much more like the past Laureato than a royal oak. The past Laureato had octagon bezel and integrated bracelet. So now this revival item does too and it's an AP ripoff? We cannot see octagonal bezel and integrated bracelet and immediately say AP ripoff. AP does not own these rather basic elements, or the still basic combination of them, even if they may have been the first to feature them. The Bulgari Octo, regardless if you like the watch or brand, has the same elements and is far from an AP ripoff. I personally don't care for the Laureato for many other reasons (have you seen one in person? Maybe you'll change your mind about the dial)... But this is a revival piece that looks like it's direct family predecessors (unlike Polo S); stop being hung up on the Royal Oak, which naturally has been an influence in luxury sport watch design - in general - since its creation.

[@andiendy]

good point! exactly what i thought. and i just can't stand seeing one youtuber freely judging a brand like GP with these words... that's very puerile.

[@ELY3358]

Dave C and Andy agree to both. I watched this video many months ago, and disagreed with his take then. The problem with it is he is making it out as they simply copied the RO, etc. when If you place both the RO and the original Laureato side by side and see the modern Laureato, and you can see where the design came from. He should watch talking watches with Jean Claude Biver from Hodinkee and he gives great insight on the idea of borrowing from the RO, they mentioned this concept of borrowing design. To his defense, he knows or understand the modern market. The problem is he is just giving an opinion on the design and “strategy” of GP, but most people take as truth. One truth is GP is one of the greatest watchmakers of all time. Is a shame that people just see them as a brand that just copies. For starters, the overseas didn’t even look like all metal integrated at first, just slowly evolved after with nobody saying anything. This is a case of submariner, fifty fathoms, zodiac sea wolf. Everybody knows who is the modern icon- but forgets what was going on back then. Oh well. Do more research buddy!

[@apowers7783]

Someone pissed you off this morning!

[@pennfootball71]

I don't think we have to worry about anyone buying this GP anyway they will be grey market filler.

[@PhilipWing]

Man Chris, you hit the nail on the head when you said you hated brands that have a million models. It's the thing I despise about Longines or even the reverso for that matter. No idea whose decision it is to make this stupid move, but whoever it is needs to leave the company.

[@kentbibby8027]

Haha you got this so wrong.

[@HTK.111]

Absolute drivel, over 12 minutes of it.

[@williamrieck3072]

Sometimes Christian talks a little too fast, whines a bit too much, and comes across as trying too hard. This is clearly one of those times.

[@kentbibby8027]

Laureato is a funny word? I thought you were Italian...it's Italian :p

[@aaronchang8397]

Thumbs down to this video. 👎🏼 👎🏼 GP Laureato is a nice watch. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@neuromancerXL]

Laureato.. Italian for "the graduate" so perhaps the iconic film of the late 60's was known on Italian posters as "il laureato"...Dont care for the watch, looks like a Royal Oak's bezel with Nautilus' bracelet, as if we dont have enough of this style with the Royal Oak, Piaget polo S, Nautilus, Hublot, Aquanaut, and all the others...Maybe only graduates would be brazen enough to think this an acceptable RO/Naut substitute...

[@michaeltran7785]

Millenials love using the F word. It is as if they believe it gives them more credibility. I find it quite annoying, especially when talking about luxury watches.

[@RoxFontaine]

You are the best watch content producer. Period.

[@mahmoudghoneim8004]

You are performing with too much arrogance reviewing a brand with a long history , you pissed me off just trying to make videos with shallow content talking too much.

[@PicturePerfect08]

Your way off your rocker

[@maiden4605]

Wow everyone is entitled to their opinion but this was a shallow, feckless effort.

[@florianminnmann3800]

Dude, that‘s sad. You seem like a guy who knows a lot about watches but acts like a total snob. Can‘t you just appreciate a good watch instead of comparing it to the heavy (s)hitters ? I like most of your videos but the bashing of GP is as annoying as bashing the Fifty-Six from VC. Not everybody is able to buy the „Holy Trinity“ and watches are supposed to be for fun not for flexing. The Laureato might have some design elements of the original Gentas - so what ? Is nobody else than PP, AP, IWC & Bvlgari allowed to do steel sports watches with integrated bracelet or „clous de paris“ dials ? That‘s a very restricted perspective for someone who seems to be a „watch guy“. You‘re honest and thats fine, but just don‘t bash these companies like that, please!

[@steven3379]

👎👎

[@arklow3482]

You ruined everything on this watch. Watch some other videos on it.

[@JaredSteadman]

Interesting vid.

[@RJC0969]

Yours is an uneducated view. It’s people like you that perpetuate ridiculous myths around a few very expensive brands that are now priced beyond their actual value. And we’re supposed to listen to you because you have all of what, 5 yrs experience?

[@dustyowl99]

sea wolf lol

[@websnail]

dustyowl99 yes, it’s Seahawk or Sea Hawk :-)

[@alecc4006]

Jlc giromatic lol..yer totally agree on this piece of crap..this thing is second rate, more brand erosion with this release.

[@bomberfire693]

you are ridiculus

[@amintaslneto]

Spot on Chris. Definitively a Frankstein watch. GP can do much better than that..

[@jimmunsw]

Yup gp hv no innovation for this watch, they hv no shame coming from Swiss Made watches! Not fair to AP at all..... Not cool at all :(

[@amsarg]

direct royal oak rip off!!

[@wilsonscott4140]

the ballsy truth Christian.