2018 Fox 36 vs. RockShox Lyrik - Battle of the Big-Hitting Forks

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@policies8534
@policies8534 4 жыл бұрын
Like: Fox 36 Comment: Lyrik
@Manu-leel
@Manu-leel 4 жыл бұрын
I am still a fan of the Lyrik 😄
@policies8534
@policies8534 4 жыл бұрын
@@Manu-leel no problem we all have different opinions
@bigblackmonkeboy
@bigblackmonkeboy 4 жыл бұрын
Both
@elcapitan1966
@elcapitan1966 7 жыл бұрын
Really good honest review based on your own perspective and riding style. Really helpful to hear the pros and cons of each fork. Keep em coming!
@Kidkoa619
@Kidkoa619 7 жыл бұрын
I like those gopro camera angles on the bike and the slow motion shots riding and watching the suspension move in those roots.
@tobywatkin3944
@tobywatkin3944 7 жыл бұрын
Still gonna run the lyrik
@kwilson4880
@kwilson4880 4 жыл бұрын
You tripin, fox rules
@tommyscoots5285
@tommyscoots5285 3 жыл бұрын
@@kwilson4880 agreed
@rgmtb
@rgmtb 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the details on this review! Getting the suspension dialed in is always a battle.
@gabehalasan8338
@gabehalasan8338 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Gene! Glad to see around the MTB KZbin community! Big Fan and loved your recent vids with Alex The Single Track Sampler. Also a HUGE CONGRATZ ON 3000 subs man, it's only been like a week ago since u made your 2500 sub video! Good luck with future videos and keep on shreding!
@Horus1688
@Horus1688 7 жыл бұрын
SOOO happy someone else mentioned the top out issue. Does not affect riding at all but I notice it when doing wheelies. Nobody else seems bugged by it like I am but I am glad to know it's a known issue and not a production defect I should be worried about.
@TommyHuynh
@TommyHuynh 7 жыл бұрын
This was a great detailed comparison between the 2 forks but I wonder if you guys tested the DVO Diamond? That fork to me hands down has the best small bump compliance. I have owned multiple Fox and Rock Shox forks and shocks and in my opinion Fox feels great when its brand new of after a rebuild but requires a lot of maintenance. Rock Shox may not feel as great but they don't need the constant maintenance like Fox. In my opinion DVO is the best of both worlds, they make solid performing forks and shocks and they don't require a ton of maintenance. DVO small bump sensitivity is by far the best IMO due to their OTT. It does require lots of tinkering to get the sweet spot but once your fork or shock is dialed its a beautiful thing. But saying all that the main reason why I only run DVO on all my bikes is their customer service. You can find tons of set up info on their website but if you have questions you can call them up and the guy who picks up the phone will be a hard core mountain biker who will know his shit and help you answer any questions. Its almost impossible to get someone on the phone from Fox or Rock Shox and if you are lucky enough to get a live person, it will be a customer service rep who probably doesn't even ride a mountain bike.
@downhilljedi
@downhilljedi 7 жыл бұрын
Tommy Huynh Totally agree with you on t his. DVO makes great products and their support is top notch.
@kolobcanyon8920
@kolobcanyon8920 7 жыл бұрын
Ohlins?
@TheDirtworks
@TheDirtworks 6 жыл бұрын
So I had the chance to compare both 2018 forks (the 36 RC2 and the Diamond Boost) for an entire day of DH laps. The 36 has about 15 hours of previous riding on it and the Diamond was brand new. Setting the forks up as closely as possible, this was my conclusion. The 2018 Fox 36 offered small bump that was just a hair smoother than the DVO (even with their OTT adjusted on the most sensitive setting.) Was it smooth enough to completely discard DVO? Not at all. It was still leaps and bounds smoother than a 2018 Lyrik. What the DVO offered that the Fox 36 didn't was outstanding midstroke support. As noted in this video, the 36 had better midstroke support but I feel they would agree when I say it wasn't as supportive as it should have been. Was the midstroke support of the 36 horrible and should you swap it for a DVO? Not necessarily. What it all comes down to is preference. If you value midstroke support most and want a good amount of small bump? Get the DVO. If you want the best small bump in the industry and decent midstoke support? Get the 36. If you want either, get the Lyrik.
@maxtorque2277
@maxtorque2277 7 жыл бұрын
Why does no one just put forks on a shock dyno? It's always "it feels a bit softer" or "it feels it has a bit less friction" An hour on a shock dyno would tell you everything....... #objectivedatatoo
@bewimotos
@bewimotos 5 жыл бұрын
a dyno wont have the same effect on a real ambient, actually also helmets they made provide impact test but they dont seem to get to rotational impacts on a dyno. so a dyno will help so much. but not at full scale.
@pietergeerse5522
@pietergeerse5522 4 жыл бұрын
WILLY MANSILLA true but you CAN measure how a fork responds to bumps, and how much friction there is
@tamasvarga67
@tamasvarga67 7 жыл бұрын
Great review guys! It made sense to compare them rather than thest them alone.
@sebstott3573
@sebstott3573 7 жыл бұрын
For sure! I'd always test back to back against a competitor, even for a standalone review. Cheers!
@atomsk1972
@atomsk1972 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone actually making a decision on which they prefer.
@seanfairbairn8815
@seanfairbairn8815 7 жыл бұрын
I would be curious to see the results of using a shock wiz to add to the comparison. It could show the amount of bottoming and topping out. Along with the ability to see how fast each for is moving through the mid travel.
@hioe04
@hioe04 7 жыл бұрын
Nice, prefer a review that actually says what the reviewer prefers than giving a boiler plate "it's a wash" conclusion
@vr6bigblock
@vr6bigblock 7 жыл бұрын
I have both..the 36 in 170m and the lyric in a 160m non boost and ran them on the same bike 2016 enduro..can't even compare the lyrik is way smoother and more responsive ..the 36 has way to many useless adjustments and know matter how many times I try to adjust to find the sweet spot I can never find it.. where the lyrik is simple and just a few clicks to open or close lsc makes a world of deference ..plus the 36 started creaking after 2 months of trail riding which has to be sent out to fox for warranty and that to me is garbage!
@velvetmidget
@velvetmidget 7 жыл бұрын
Mike, you have both 2018 forks? Or you have both 2016 forks? Reading your statement sounds like you have both 2016 forks which is irrelevant because of changes in model years. If you have both 2018 forks, I will take note of your comments for my next purchase. Maybe you tried both 2018 models on a 2016 bike? Sorry to confuse, I just wanted your opinion since you have both.
@vr6bigblock
@vr6bigblock 7 жыл бұрын
velvetmidget both are 2017 forks and had them on my 2016 Enduro ..
@paulbalegend
@paulbalegend 7 жыл бұрын
It sounded to me like the Lyrik was just less progressive and needed some volume spacers to get an apples-to-apples comparison. I think this is much more readily noticed than differences in shimstacks. Is this possible? Or how was this controlled for?
@sebstott3573
@sebstott3573 7 жыл бұрын
There's a more detailed article about how i tested - link in the video description - that explains exactly this. Cheers.
@iotarask77
@iotarask77 7 жыл бұрын
yes, adding volume spacers to the Lyrik provides more plush initial stroke (and with it less arm pump). For me, in combination with not too low air pressure, works perfect over roots, plus it doesn't bottom-out on jumps due to progression. If it still doesn't suit the rider (which I doubt) he can sent it to a tuning shop to adjust the HSC shim stack. I've got the "old" 2017 fork. The 2018 even has DebonAir which further smoothens the initial stroke. For me this review is too one-sided.
@sebstott3573
@sebstott3573 7 жыл бұрын
The air spring in the 2018 Lyrik is actually identical to that in the 2017 model - they've just added the Debonair badge. It's got a fair bit less negative volume than the 36, which partly explains the slightly firmer off the top sensitivity and reduced mid-stroke support. You're right, I could've added even more volume spacers to the Lyrik (I run 2.5), but this would've made it harsher on larger hits - it already has a more sudden and unpredictable ramp-up and rebound in the final 25% or so of travel, and gave me more hand pain than the Fox, so whatever i did to add more support would've made this issue worse. Yes, i could have got a re-valve too, but that would be an unrealistic test - how many consumers get their forks re-valved. I assure you this test was in no way one-sided. It's also worth saying that the Lyrik is a genuinely excellent fork, it's just not - in my honest opinion - as good as the new 36.
@malayneum
@malayneum 7 жыл бұрын
please review 100mm forks. why bikeradar always focus on enduro? we have a lot of XC riders here.
@richpotatothebestg.m.ovegg2599
@richpotatothebestg.m.ovegg2599 7 жыл бұрын
They should do a category under 500€(Reba vs 32Perf vs Sid Rl vs Dt xm100 and a Manitou Minute Pro) , and a high end comparison(32SC Factory, Sid WC, Dt xr100(not sure, it has a carbon crown/stereer, Cdale Lefty, and a Rs-1
@arthurhaverkort1927
@arthurhaverkort1927 7 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. And maybe an even lower price category. With RS recon/30gold, Manitou m30 air, suntour raidon. Not the most special forks, but for beginners its very helpful if they have to choose between there (first) bike. These forks are very common in beginner bikes, and it's nice to hear the opinion from people who know better forks.
@Simssss888
@Simssss888 7 жыл бұрын
malayneum you can transverse these tests to lower suspension forks as well. Mostly same technologys are used
@flow2tech
@flow2tech 7 жыл бұрын
malayneum I think it's because lycra isn't cool anymore... I don't know😎
@MTBScotland
@MTBScotland 7 жыл бұрын
lycra was never cool
@TrailFeatures
@TrailFeatures 7 жыл бұрын
Great review! When I tested last years RockShox Yari against a fox 34 I found pretty close to the same. It sounds like for 2018 Fox is really trying to refine their Forks, while RockShox is more or less just sticking with the same.
@rogerneilson815
@rogerneilson815 7 жыл бұрын
I understand the need to compare as evenly as possible, but perhaps setting them up as identical as possible hindered one of them in the test. Wouldn't it be a better test to set them up as best as each can be setup, to the fullest potential possible and then see what's better? Maybe 36 still wins, but maybe the 36 settings on a Lyric make a Lyric harsh on small bump and dive easy. I put volume spacers in a Pike n lowered PSI a touch and it's far better than when I ride on Fox 36 as dialed in as I can get it. Both are older models ('15 & '14) but they each have different potentials and the Pike had more. Just needed to tune it to find it.
@downhiller010
@downhiller010 7 жыл бұрын
This!
@DigitalN
@DigitalN 7 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is it pretty interesting to see how much a fork flexes backwards over Rooty stuff? Like at 3:24
@obi-wankenobi9871
@obi-wankenobi9871 7 жыл бұрын
Why do you allways review only Fox and RS? Nearly everybody knows everything about the two brands products. What about Manitou, Öhlins, Cane Creek, Formula etc? Also a few review on the cheaper forks from RS and Fox would be helpful, not everybody can afford the high end models. The Recon and Sector would be good test subjects.
@jeancena8761
@jeancena8761 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Yari vs non-Kashima 36.
@TrailFeatures
@TrailFeatures 7 жыл бұрын
John Ceeena I actually did a review on the Yari vs the Fox 34 and found them pretty similar.
@jeancena8761
@jeancena8761 7 жыл бұрын
Trail Features holy shit you did. Your content is amazing!
@TrailFeatures
@TrailFeatures 7 жыл бұрын
Luke Luke, It was a 2017 Fox 34 Performance. I feel that if you look at spec sheets, the Reba may seem more in line with the 34; but dollar for dollar, and real-world performance, the Yari is more on par with the Fox 34 Performance. I'm sure a pro racer would feel a larger discrepancy in performance, but to the average rider, they are pretty much the same level.
@danielhum3709
@danielhum3709 7 жыл бұрын
KZbin User yes that is a good point, and there are many factors that have not been taken into account. Longevity for example, that is always one of my concerns, when I spend big cash I want to know I'm getting many years out of them. I'm personally a big RS fan for front suspension (when I can afford it haha) and Fox for rear.
@andrewdecker627
@andrewdecker627 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, I've been debating between these two for my next bike! I was wondering since you guys like to do tests and gather data, how much of a difference do lockout/compression settings really make as far as efficiency on a climb? Perhaps this is a topic you guys would also like to understand better and make a video of!
@rubberducky704
@rubberducky704 7 жыл бұрын
I haven't ridden that particular fox, but I do have the Lyric. I agree with everything single word about the Lyric. I thought I was crazy about feeling that once you got to a certain threshold, it just dumps. Love it though!
@Mhblabla
@Mhblabla 7 жыл бұрын
As others pointed out they should be reviewing lower end forks too. Also the way he describes the Lyrik I could talk the same about Sector - too much dive, neglient small bump sensitivity then too much of a dive on bigger hits. Which I also remember hearing in Pike vs Fox 34 comparisons. So I'm starting to believe this is a Rock Shox thing across all their forks. If that's the case, I'm never getting a RS again coz I have it now and hate it how it performs.
@AdrianSchwizgebel
@AdrianSchwizgebel 5 жыл бұрын
What you are mentioning for the Lyrik (harsher in small bumps but rushes through travel too fast) might have to do with low/highspeed compression setting, too much lowspeed and too little highspeed compression. And this is the reason why I‘m going to upgrade my Yari with the RC2 and not the RCT3 Charger unit. Equivalently there would be the GRIP2 from Fox. I‘m happy to own a Yari, since it has the same chassis as the Lyrik and that can’t be wrong for a >100kg rider like me. Off course I wouldn’t mind the Kashima though...
@SimpleDragon1328
@SimpleDragon1328 7 жыл бұрын
Why on earth is there a lack of reviews on the "bread-n-butter", sub $700, 100-130 mm travel forks!? I think there would be a lot of viewers interested in seeing cheaper forks.
@arselihp
@arselihp 7 жыл бұрын
Great review! Can you describe what I'm looking for in the slo-mo footage regarding flex? I don't see anything.
@Step_bro951
@Step_bro951 7 жыл бұрын
That Fox has Kashima coating on it (gold) which helps with friction and makes the fork absorb smoother and cooler, that's why Trek uses it on the Session 9.9 Dh bike
@RNicknackpaddywhack
@RNicknackpaddywhack 6 жыл бұрын
So what happened when you increased the fast speed compression a bit or put a token in? I came off a fox 40 at a downhill park, trestle, and tried a lyric and was blown away! I could keep up with the guy I traded with easily! And confidently! Loved it! Without toying with the fork a bit you can’t really say much.
@Markikuunn
@Markikuunn 7 жыл бұрын
When will you upload the part about the rockshox lyric? Oh...wait...
@Kcducttaper1
@Kcducttaper1 7 жыл бұрын
I love watching enduro and all, but I'm much more of an XC/trail rider than full enduro. Currently my bike has a Fox Float 32 Elite up front (120mm). I've often been able to feel (and see) it flexing and I've often wondered what I might gain if I went to a Fox 34 something or another.
@DanielSvids
@DanielSvids 7 жыл бұрын
I remember when fox was on another level. RS really leaped away in recent times... I love RS's
@404nobrakes
@404nobrakes 7 жыл бұрын
2018 Yari vs 36 performance. 2018 Revelation vs 34 performance. Most people can't afford bikes that come with superforks.
@bensblues
@bensblues 7 жыл бұрын
Saurabh Kulkarni try the capra
@kiddeuro8866
@kiddeuro8866 7 жыл бұрын
Yari cant touch the Lyrik its just like a cheaper version of it
@jetsgo66
@jetsgo66 7 жыл бұрын
Sharx Games it's the same fork with a different dampener
@jkamer2168
@jkamer2168 7 жыл бұрын
I can afford them.
@bensblues
@bensblues 7 жыл бұрын
Justin Kamerman woah aren't you so cool?!
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 7 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to know more about all of the other options too, the hand pain this, is definitely a big no no for me, I have enough pain.
@josephnubile1970
@josephnubile1970 7 жыл бұрын
Great video I will be buying the fox 36. I have watched your how to set up suspension in 10 min video and I have a question about the Fox 36, during your test what did you set the small black dial which I believe is low speed rebound to. My trails have alot of roots also and I would appreciate it if you could go over using it correctly. Thanks Joe
@wodstalker2819
@wodstalker2819 7 жыл бұрын
Is that really still summer ? x) Footage looks like its staright from novembre ! Looks like weather is bad all over europe :'(
@SorinVBogdan
@SorinVBogdan 7 жыл бұрын
I think it is :))
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 7 жыл бұрын
the vibrations you talk about, were that tested on alloy bars or carbon bars? and things that are little irritating should not be acceptable imho.
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 7 жыл бұрын
For me, Öhlins and MRP are the most interesting so far, as they don't use volume reducers. But not sure what to get, I research and research read all the reviews I can, but still undecided. Btu this review makes me think Fox is one of the best choices.
@ashpaglaro3421
@ashpaglaro3421 7 жыл бұрын
In my opinion setting up the shocks the best possible is fairer then setting them up as close as possible because if a shock is better with a certain setup them maybe it would win.
@ZIggyRIbetto
@ZIggyRIbetto 7 жыл бұрын
Guys the top out bumper is a production issue, just let them know and they will overnight you a new one.
@georgekey8246
@georgekey8246 7 жыл бұрын
I've ridden both forks and I have to totally disagree been a light rider I find the lyrik to be a superior fork to the 36 but I feel as if it's down to a matter of opinion have to try both for yourself
@MrMrRioes
@MrMrRioes 7 жыл бұрын
Really great review :) Good job!
@velvetmidget
@velvetmidget 7 жыл бұрын
So I am all stoked to go and pickup this Fox 36 but how do I know they didn't mess up the LSC when they fixed the bottom out. I feel this entire review is VOID because now you need to test the production fox vs. the production Lyrik. Just saying they fixed the bottom out issue doesn't mean they didn't introduce a new issue. Just like code, you fix one bug and introduce another.
@MTBScotland
@MTBScotland 7 жыл бұрын
gave up on RS, they are way overly damped for HSC. My mattoc pro2 with an IRT is streets ahead of my previous pike (with luftkappe). Wish I had a coil fork to go with my coil shock though.
@turbodessel
@turbodessel 7 жыл бұрын
MTB Scotland MRP dropped a new coil fork a couple weeks ago
@MTBScotland
@MTBScotland 7 жыл бұрын
Connor Eggleton-Dessel far too expensive, stupid arch and boost only.
@user-ex6dr7ol8c
@user-ex6dr7ol8c 7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone here know if I can take my Fox Float 32 Performance 2016 on a dowhill track without damaging the fork?
@MTBScotland
@MTBScotland 7 жыл бұрын
yes you can
@TheDean58
@TheDean58 7 жыл бұрын
I just took mine to a down hill bike park the other day. Its obviously not the best choice but it get the job done. Get out there and have some fun
@MrWill127
@MrWill127 7 жыл бұрын
I did and it was fine but I only weigh 64kg
@jaakko200987654321
@jaakko200987654321 7 жыл бұрын
yes if i can take my suntour pile of shit to a dh track then you can take your fox to the dh track
@vladimirrusev468
@vladimirrusev468 7 жыл бұрын
on the lyrik is not the shimstack the problem... is the piston and his way to big ports on the compression side. once the shims are up to much oil gets trought.
@ErwinMeulman
@ErwinMeulman 7 жыл бұрын
Maintenance prices, seals, non-vendor lock parts, maintenance youtube video's are the most important in my opinion, so ride rigid :)
@VancouverTrailShredders
@VancouverTrailShredders 6 жыл бұрын
Which one would you recommend for a rider with bad shoulders (just got one clavicle plated). - 2019 160mm RS Lyrik RCT3 with the new charger damper - 2019 160mm Fox 36 with the new Grip2 Looking for a buttery smooth fork for 27.5 wheels for the local North Shore trails but one that doesn't bottom out that quick when riding Whistler or the CGP.
@bwest6275
@bwest6275 7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know how to get the 36 with those chrome decals? I only see the orange decal color way for 2018 🤔
@legyvanmaster
@legyvanmaster 6 жыл бұрын
Lyric all the way. I ve got it on my Giant full e+0 pro sx.....it works great. 160-180mm model
@policies8534
@policies8534 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t perform as well and is harsher on the hands, so I’d the the fox
@cjtac5077
@cjtac5077 7 жыл бұрын
I think they should do a short/shorter travel test. 80-120 milimeters
@m00nchildblues
@m00nchildblues 6 жыл бұрын
What about fork offset differences? Do they really make a difference?
@aiwprtonaezakmi5874
@aiwprtonaezakmi5874 7 жыл бұрын
I rode both and RS fells better than 36 for me. Lyrik just need a bottommless tokens. But I want to test DVO and BOS too.
@grunter1389
@grunter1389 7 жыл бұрын
Great footage you guys 👍
@razorree
@razorree 6 жыл бұрын
strange, i feel that my 36 RC2 '18 is much harsher than Lyrik (i can feel it on long rocky runs)
@LongLiveEnduro
@LongLiveEnduro 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very good Review. I wonder though why you didn't try to put one more token into the Lyrik and reduce the air volume slightly. That should increase small bump sensitivity and should provide more strength/support when near to bottoming out. That's what I did with my Pike and I am pretty happy with it. Also you can retune the Lyrik like the Boxxer to allow lighter riders to shift the adjustment ratio of compression and rebound. Didn't try out a Fox tough. What do you think?
@oli4w400
@oli4w400 7 жыл бұрын
Chris Longliveenduro i
@oli4w400
@oli4w400 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry posted something by accident
@joshb6993
@joshb6993 7 жыл бұрын
Stress vs strain graphs please.
@downhiller010
@downhiller010 6 жыл бұрын
The Fox could be a slightly better fork (not sure on chassis stifness/reliability though), but the point is we get a 2017 Lyrik RCT3 for 650€ and 2018 for 800€ vs the 2018 Fox 36 (Performance Fit4) for 1000€. Is the 2018 fork 350€ better than the 2017 Lyrik? Not so sure. Curious on the Formula Selva.
@srrtbb
@srrtbb 7 жыл бұрын
In the USA fox is still more expensive btw. Also what about Pike? Is Pike not as good as Lyrik now? 2017 many sources still said Pike is one of the best.
@calebm.5698
@calebm.5698 5 жыл бұрын
tbbsrr pike competes more with the 34 it’s a trail fork rather than enduro
@gottarex
@gottarex 6 жыл бұрын
did you put any tokens on any of the forks? Specifically asking about the Lyrik.
@danielhum3709
@danielhum3709 7 жыл бұрын
Can you also test a kona supreme operator, I've yet to see a review on this bike. I ride kona so am interested.
@canadianroot
@canadianroot 6 жыл бұрын
Does the Lyrik have travel adjust? Either this model, or others?
@tomoyanieuwendijk-adachi4957
@tomoyanieuwendijk-adachi4957 6 жыл бұрын
There is something called volume spacers
@piciu256
@piciu256 7 жыл бұрын
IMHO both of those forks lack a very important feature- hydraulic bottom out, and while FOX at least has nice shim stack, the RS is a bit lacking in the damper department. Same for the Pike and 34, but there- the Fox doesnt have as nice of a shim stack. Manitou mattoc has all of those features, and with a bit of work- it performs just as well if not better as the 2 above, for the 1/2 of the price (just lube it with Fox gold or other similar, optional- install SKF seals like in pike or 34- but those are not even close to evil genius in terms of keeping out elements)
@dawn-moon
@dawn-moon 6 жыл бұрын
Half of the price ??? Check the website : it's 999€. I've just bought a new Yari for 550€ here in Europe. And if you don't want to bottom out with your Rockshox, just install some tokens, that makes the fork more progressive...
@camwells9726
@camwells9726 7 жыл бұрын
how far in front are these two forks to a pike ? my bike has a pike , im yet to ride a bike with these two
@P0pcornmaschine
@P0pcornmaschine 7 жыл бұрын
*Question for all:* Im going to build my own bike and i have to choose between the *Rockshox Sektor Gold RL 2016* and the *Fox 34 Evolution CTD 2015* Which fork should i take? I am not sure, which one to buy, as for example service kits for the fox fork cost 2 times more than for rockshox
@razorree
@razorree 7 жыл бұрын
Does vorsprung luftkappe make sense on Lyrik 2017 (with charger1)
@SGMTB
@SGMTB 7 жыл бұрын
I love your reviews! You guys are very professional, and give us good information. So much of deciding the best fork is down to feel, and you described the unique feel very well.
@andrewlarge1248
@andrewlarge1248 7 жыл бұрын
You can put tokens in the lyrik thats what i had to do and it was alot better and it didn't go thru travel as quickly
@daylightsensor8695
@daylightsensor8695 6 жыл бұрын
Koes Kashima coat realy make a difference ?
@germi1
@germi1 7 жыл бұрын
Seb Stott has made the best videos and reviews on BikeRadar so far! I really like his approach. Have you tried the Dual Position version against the fix travel one? I currently have a Pike RCT3 Boost 120mm and since I miss some travel on the descends I am considering changing it for a Dual Position 130/160. Any tips are appreciated!
@bensblues
@bensblues 7 жыл бұрын
Le Germain Enduro bikes are rapidly moving to 170mm of travel, make sure you are certainly satisfied by 160mm maybe
@jcw5002
@jcw5002 7 жыл бұрын
Really, really awesome review. Thank you!
@ericbourne3116
@ericbourne3116 6 жыл бұрын
why no DVO?!?!?!? also i seriously think the MRP ribbon is a better alternative to the lyrik
@livefreeandshred9818
@livefreeandshred9818 7 жыл бұрын
So this is a Fox commercial or....?
@MrWill127
@MrWill127 7 жыл бұрын
`Its a review and comparison. The fox was better, it got praised, whats the issue?
@CJ-tj8po
@CJ-tj8po 7 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy that thank you for reply
@fabiandomocos5004
@fabiandomocos5004 7 жыл бұрын
MAKE A SR SUNTOUR DUROLUX VIDEO!!!PLS
@aleks2194
@aleks2194 7 жыл бұрын
I have the lyrik rc dp air 160mm 2017, I found if I had the pressure where the fork is smooth on small bumps and eating up the trail it dives in corners and when I applied some front brake, so I rode with more pressure to keep it from diving, with made it bounce and a lot of hand pain, after a day in finale Ligure shuttling I was struggling to hold the bars the next day, but i fitted the fork with the Andreani piston kit with the soft compression shim stack while I was there and it changed it completely, went down 10psi in pressure so it was totally smooth with no diving or hand pain, I'm so happy with it now, I weigh 78 kg with gear and backpack btw,
@woshigepro2
@woshigepro2 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone uses a Manitou Minute Pro Fork? I own one but never used it in any rough terrain. I used it for commute only.
@Ben-zh7qt
@Ben-zh7qt 7 жыл бұрын
Price of each one?
@BentonL
@BentonL 7 жыл бұрын
Fox Service sucks. Fox refuses to service shocks past 5 years of age. Parts are next to impossible. Not even the LBS will service them after 5 years. I was told it would violate their agreement with Fox. With RockShox you can service them a while longer as i already have experienced. I liked the ride of my Fox better. After being burned I am done with them unless its stock and the only choice. I would like to get a little more than 5 years on a thousand dollar investment. Especially if I hardly used it.
@flow2tech
@flow2tech 7 жыл бұрын
Benton Ledbetter It's unfortunate but this becoming the world we live in.. The bike world will become like phi e's and computers eventually... Garbage in 3 seasons.. I see it happening now.. Companies don't want u to hang on to things.. Jesus my household appliances same thing!
@BentonL
@BentonL 7 жыл бұрын
At $3,000 or more I expect to get more than 5 and serviceability after. I would have tried to rebuild the shock my self but the tool I need to rebuild it with I could not purchase. IFT charge tool. I sold the shock on eBay for ~$200, and got a pike used for $200. I got lucky there. I rebuilt the pike for $35, and bought a spare set of parts in case they are not available later. lets just hope when I need them I remember where I put the parts. As for appliances and AC's they are all related and owned by each other in some way. There is no good one now. Autos manufactures telling people to do oil changes at 5k or 10k just insures a shorter life as well as a shitty used car market. I agree all big corps want us to throw everything away every 5 years or less.
@jessedelao2297
@jessedelao2297 7 жыл бұрын
Trevor Bohnsack
@flow2tech
@flow2tech 7 жыл бұрын
Jesse Delao JESSE DELAO!
@antoniostefangabriel9829
@antoniostefangabriel9829 7 жыл бұрын
fox 34 factory or fox 36 performance?
@thegregbrookhouse8667
@thegregbrookhouse8667 7 жыл бұрын
36 p...
@maxtorque2277
@maxtorque2277 7 жыл бұрын
50 seconds in, and watch that single crown fork flex! ;-)
@johnnymwmadden
@johnnymwmadden 7 жыл бұрын
Bring back the totem 👌
@AndreasHappyfarm
@AndreasHappyfarm 7 жыл бұрын
Too rough in the beginning and not enough support on bit hits? To me it sounds like all of the issues with the Lyrik would have been solved by adding a token and removing a bit of air pressure? Modern Fox chassis' are simply too flexy
@puppycasey8883
@puppycasey8883 7 жыл бұрын
Reviewer needed to play with different spacer configs and other settings on both forks in order to give a complete review.
@jaakko200987654321
@jaakko200987654321 7 жыл бұрын
can you please compare the diffrence between a sr suntour xcm and a pile of shit. the diffrence: none
@RichieD088
@RichieD088 7 жыл бұрын
LOL !!!
@lametraserillos1
@lametraserillos1 5 жыл бұрын
i run in motoGP with a suntour xcr and rossi always see my ass ...
@sammatchett6014
@sammatchett6014 7 жыл бұрын
so your lyric needs more tokens to be like the fox
@sloops4398
@sloops4398 7 жыл бұрын
This bump is also got at my Lyrik RCT3 180mm and i hate it.
@thanasisplastaras5195
@thanasisplastaras5195 6 жыл бұрын
Can you give them to me because my one broke?
@chadhale5730
@chadhale5730 7 жыл бұрын
What bike are you riding?
@richpotatothebestg.m.ovegg2599
@richpotatothebestg.m.ovegg2599 7 жыл бұрын
MTB VERDE VALLEY Pole Evolink, Large.
@elidouek5438
@elidouek5438 7 жыл бұрын
its a pole evolink
@hus4berg
@hus4berg 7 жыл бұрын
Great forks, but man, they are very expencive! Not shure these two forks ofer double performance over other forks in this category in the price range about 600+- euros.
@rafaelb2535
@rafaelb2535 6 жыл бұрын
i am planning to buy rockshox pike
@kayakutah
@kayakutah 7 жыл бұрын
Thorough review.
@JamesStoup
@JamesStoup 7 жыл бұрын
If you have 1,000 pounds to spend, spend 250 on a custom damper tune and save the rest for something else. You’ll have a better fork than anything that comes stock.
@felixmartineau8013
@felixmartineau8013 7 жыл бұрын
Very good review
@james-letzridenz9995
@james-letzridenz9995 7 жыл бұрын
the fox i think cooler because of just the gold part
@jessedelao2297
@jessedelao2297 7 жыл бұрын
MotorsDelight
@jessedelao2297
@jessedelao2297 7 жыл бұрын
I own a fox 32, But i think theres nothing like the rock shock sid !!
@northman77
@northman77 7 жыл бұрын
No need for a test... Fox is obviously better! Did you ever see insinde of these 2 fork brand? One is made of plastic, the other have the same kind of part you can found in a motorcycle or a snowmobile suspension.
@durrantmiller8810
@durrantmiller8810 7 жыл бұрын
It wins on damp ning but with fox you have to do maintenance quite often as o keep it feeling good
@northman77
@northman77 7 жыл бұрын
Durrant Miller i need to do maintenance of my rock shox sid every 3 weeks, same for my friends with rs-1 and they feel rough, the oil inside is gray and totally past due, bushing look overheated. Fox 32-34 is every 2 month and still feel great.
@flow2tech
@flow2tech 7 жыл бұрын
Jérémy Drouin Naa had both.. My pike is just plain better for me.. Less fiddling, less maintenance and plain just works!
@northman77
@northman77 7 жыл бұрын
Trevor Bohnsack me and my (u23 world cup) training partner can't agree on that... ;)
@flow2tech
@flow2tech 7 жыл бұрын
Jérémy Drouin That's great for u and ur trainer.. I don't train.. I ride trail, hit huge gaps, steep rock rolls and crank it out on the north shore and Whistler... Also drink a shit ton of beer.. The pike is a real mountain bikers no bullshit fork.. It also doesn't treat lycra wearing very well! 😎🍻💪
@lifeofharry320
@lifeofharry320 7 жыл бұрын
Test downhill forks
@accordv6er
@accordv6er 6 жыл бұрын
Lyrik looks like my old psylo from... God knows. 03? Similar response it looks like
@endurotruckererniedesjardins
@endurotruckererniedesjardins 7 жыл бұрын
Rockshox blew it so bad with the old judy line.... id never sell or buy a rockshox product. I might be old school but after endless hours in the shop fixing blown judys and sids its like a severe allergie when i see a rockshox.
@antonparis7939
@antonparis7939 7 жыл бұрын
I personally prefer dvo and suntour for single crown forks, I am not a fan of rock shox or fox...
@ditofuhrer9100
@ditofuhrer9100 7 жыл бұрын
yup but sadly only the big two are widely available in my country, sr suntour only abailable as oem for low end bikes :(
@antonparis7939
@antonparis7939 7 жыл бұрын
Dito Fuhrer I always buy forks online, I'm never happy what comes with the bike. I'll be getting a new frame and will be using my marzocchi forks until I can afford suntour durolux forks, they are great forks for the price
@todoxe
@todoxe 7 жыл бұрын
SOMETIMES GIVE ME LAUGHT WHEN THEY TALK AS MUCH MONEY AS IF IT WAS VERY EASY TO DO IT. Durability and reliability over time (it is what interests us more than those who work hard to earn the money) .... beyond that if one is more "slightly more sensitive with small obstacles". Quite a difference of money between one and the other. And of course there are other brands that can be just as good, or even better, as far as performance is concerned.
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