2018 Honda Africa Twin - Trying out the DCT

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The Crumble

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@BRAMMOTO
@BRAMMOTO 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 Africa Twin dct. And everything you said was true. You do get used to it, you do get lazy and pretty much never shift. In sport 3 mode I found it downshifts a little sooner on deceleration. Off road it’s great, impossible to stall, and usually has you in the right gear. I’ve had mine for over a year and I love it.
@michaelkeating7380
@michaelkeating7380 6 жыл бұрын
Ditto!
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I was very impressed and if I was going to change, I think I would go down the DCT route after that test ride.
@domster200
@domster200 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn't try to run away down steep wet clay?
@BRAMMOTO
@BRAMMOTO 6 жыл бұрын
Domster200 not been in clay yet. Sand and average mud not a problem. It takes some getting used to. I am a big fan of the DCT.
@calablanca
@calablanca 6 жыл бұрын
I own a 2017 DCT and honestly I wonder if in the future, I will ever have a non DCT bike. Soooooo loving it !
@rickseibel5904
@rickseibel5904 3 жыл бұрын
One has to engage one’s brain and there is little one can’t do with the DCT vs manual transmission. For instance, approaching a car stopped at a light. Not enough engine braking was the complaint. Well just push the (-)minus button to down shift as many times as you wish and you’ll get the engine braking you want. Just like the manual where you downshift to slow. The principle is the same. It’s just that the mechanism by which it is accomplished is different. When in “D” mode, it takes a good twist of the throttle before it will downshift. In “S” mode, the degree or distance one has to open the throttle is much less before it drops into a lower gear - two if you give it near a max twist. The number of gears it will drop will vary according to the speed one is traveling. So in “S” mode, while it shifts up at higher RPM’s, throttle input also a factor in determining the RPM’s at which the up shift occurs. The same holds true for “D” mode. RPM level at the point of up shift is determined by the amount of throttle input. It takes more than just a few hours of riding before one becomes familiar with the nuances of using the DCT. But once familiar with it, it is a joy to use and why more and more riders are buying and recommending the DCT.
@Gijserklh
@Gijserklh 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people seem to forget about the manual option on the dct. I use that a lot if i want more control. A great option.
@scottdsw1
@scottdsw1 5 жыл бұрын
Finally, a nice non promotional review giving honest comments, very much appreciated.
@MrG61-u9k
@MrG61-u9k 6 жыл бұрын
Have had 5 DCT Honda's since 2010 and over 100,000 miles with no problems, it doesn't get boring with so many options to change gear but you need to do miles to see if it suits your riding style, the manual is still a great bike but they always get smoked by DCT at the lights 😁
@lancealbon46
@lancealbon46 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2019 model in this colour. Loving this bike and the DCT is incredible!
@peterbrophy9442
@peterbrophy9442 6 жыл бұрын
I got the 2016 DCT - Used it for daily commute through city traffic using Sport Mode 2 and never been happier. My only complaint is on off-road, it handles great but when you get into the more technical hard terrain and rough ruts and you accidentally give it a HARD twist of throttle when the terrain throws you off your line, you can’t kill the engine power by grabbing the clutch - This one weakness has caused me to have 3 falls that could have been saved had I had the clutch and for me and is the only reason I might NOT consider getting another DCT for mostly off-roading use. But for light duty off-roading, you can’t go wrong with this bike!
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I did wonder what it would be like off-road. Someone else they weren't keen on theirs in tight filtering situations too?
@advorlando9855
@advorlando9855 6 жыл бұрын
DCT sounds better for a Goldwing then.
@E_Clampus_Vitus
@E_Clampus_Vitus 2 ай бұрын
How many times would you have dropped the bike from stalling on steep hills with ruts?
@OldManTony
@OldManTony 6 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine tested the original one and hated the automatic modes, and discounted the bike. However he went back for another go when he found out about the manual mode and loved it so much he bought it.
@mindspinn311
@mindspinn311 6 жыл бұрын
Your experience riding this is why everyone needs to try a current DCT before deciding it’s not for them or outright hating on it. It changes your riding experience completely, and it can be shocking or subtle.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын
Good stuff MrC! - I rather liked the DCT too, but whether you'd miss a manual box after a while (if you just had that) I don't know....I suspect not. Loved the cheeky little face revel in there, never had you down as a moustache man!
@jaspersilus
@jaspersilus 6 жыл бұрын
Thought Id give your comment a thumbs up for a change TMF!😁
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna keep my manual but if I was going to change I would be very tempted to have that bike. Really like the variety it offers. The tache goes with the beard these days! I'm not just a moustache man, let's be clear!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheCrumble Oh crikey it's worse than I thought - the Crumble's a hipster!!! AAaaaggghhhh!!!!!
@deanchild9848
@deanchild9848 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer LOL....I knew it.....
@mohba01
@mohba01 6 жыл бұрын
the differences between the DCT on the early VFR1200s vs the Africa twin shows how much work honda has put into this technology. I like the DCT but its not for everyone.
@mrcarls79
@mrcarls79 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review crumble! I have dct and love it. I dont really use D mode unless road conditions are bad. Heavy rain etc I tend to use S1 in the winter months when roads arnt great S2 in summer riding and S3 off road
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
So many options though eh?!
@mrcarls79
@mrcarls79 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheCrumble sure is.. i had trip to the Pyrenees this year and it was an absolute pleasure to ride relax and take in the views and let the dct do all there work. And for the harder off road stuff there the dct saved me :)
@mikekaestner7562
@mikekaestner7562 5 жыл бұрын
How is it in heavy rain ?
@joshbro99k96
@joshbro99k96 6 жыл бұрын
11:12 - reflection in the wing mirror. I feel like I've just seen Santa - I've ruined Christmas!!
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant - I lolled at that one :)
@whittywych0073
@whittywych0073 6 жыл бұрын
Just buy it. Give yourself a thousand miles to learn to ride the dct to it,s full benefit and you will love it The harder you ride it the more engine braking you get, manual is great in nadgery stuff, auto great on A roads, as quick between roundabouts and in town as you like and if you are tired just let the bike do it. The dct actually provides another dimension to riding rather than making it boring. Love mine.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I thought that was one of the best things about it - the added dimension thing. So many choices!
@michaelggriffiths
@michaelggriffiths 6 жыл бұрын
I've just purchased the NC700 DCT, I'm struggling a bit with the aggressive engine braking. I find that not being able to pull the clutch in is a bit scary... Especially if there's icy patches, generally if I spot ice I'd pull in the clutch and 'coast' over it, what I'm finding on the DCT is that I instinctively let off the throttle which then produces (dangerous?) engine braking.. did you experience this? If so, how do you overcome it?
@devdathn
@devdathn 6 жыл бұрын
@@michaelggriffiths for one, it has traction control which will take care of any unwanted slippage, and if you still end up feeling scared, downshift in advance and tap the brakes before you hit the icy patches.
@dangothdangoth5449
@dangothdangoth5449 3 жыл бұрын
Its at times like this I think come back Crumble ! Please
@raychatterton5783
@raychatterton5783 6 жыл бұрын
Had my at for 18 months, dct is great, my bikes candy red , love it. Stick it S1 all the time suits me!
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Lovely colour that red! So many owners on here chuffed to bits with their bike!
@paulverney4753
@paulverney4753 6 жыл бұрын
As you well know Mr C, I love my AT DCT! The AT choice was partially down to watching your vids of you on yours. The DCT was because I was coming back to biking after 15 years off a bike and the ease of use was very appealing. I understand hardened bikers might scoff at an automatic bike but it’s perfect for me. They also need to remember that the nutter that is Dave is still nestling in the man cave ready for when you feel like getting your gears on!! 😉 I think you’ve decided to keep your AT now which makes perfect sense. But I believe, for the money, the AT DCT is cracking bike and hard to beat!
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree Paul and if I was going to change, I would definitely go down the DCT route - i thought it was a special bit of kit and great to ride! And yeah there's always Dave to keep me in 1998!
@plymouthjanner8940
@plymouthjanner8940 6 жыл бұрын
DCT Crosstourer Bloody amazing a plenty of power. Great mile muncher. Keep up the good work Crumble.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Would love a go on one of them - love the V4!
@roadwarrior8560
@roadwarrior8560 6 жыл бұрын
great power but a heavy beast that eats tyres mate.
@jetrex1986
@jetrex1986 6 жыл бұрын
I love my NC750 DCT great for around town.
@oldtimer3824
@oldtimer3824 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Mr Crumb. I’m enjoying my 2017 Africa twin manual here in California, and prices are very low on new 2018 and 19 AT models. Thinking about going DCT, looks relaxing like something I might enjoy as an olde timer.
@BigBikeAdventures
@BigBikeAdventures 6 жыл бұрын
They are also very good off road, changing gears while standing is now an easy hand action. Good job Honda.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah they did a very good job with this bike - and at a great price too! Would really like to try one off-road.
@briantel9432
@briantel9432 6 жыл бұрын
i have 5 bikes and road 250000 miles I got a DCT and love it. it is quicker through the gears and faster in the corners and better of road and the best bike ever maid from Honda.
@SBKPete
@SBKPete 6 жыл бұрын
Also, don’t forget that there are 3 sport modes, which changes the engine braking, as the box changes down sooner; especially in sport mode 3.
@iwasherefirst786
@iwasherefirst786 6 жыл бұрын
O no that visit to the dealer would be fatal for me. I would be trading the old African twin for black beauty. 😍 I love the new dash and everything. PCP here we go again 😂
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
PCP is the devil's work - remember that!!
@raycollington4310
@raycollington4310 6 жыл бұрын
As someone about to get an AT, I have been put off DCT due to a lot of issues with car dual clutch and automated manual transmissions. The added complexity of computer aided clutch, throttle and gear control tells me that it's not if, but when it needs a visit to the dealer, just look online at VW DSG feedback and warranty issues as one example. I realise however that a wet clutch may make a difference. I won't be commuting, just leisure riding. I would imagine that younger riders might think "He who hesitates is lost" while the more greyer haired among us might think "Act in haste, repent at leisure". Am I wrong thinking what is not fitted cannot go wrong, or is this mind-set going to deny me from benefitting from great Honda technology. Thanks Crumble for the great insight, cheers, still undecided!
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Good question! I think there are a lot of DCT owners on here who are all singing its praises and I haven't heard any horror stories about the box. I think Honda have this one spot on!
@crotchrocket3000
@crotchrocket3000 6 жыл бұрын
It’s a pretty good system hey! I just use the tiptronic, but the auto option was ace when I chopped the end of my finger off !
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Do you never just stick it in drive and let the bike do it all for you?
@crotchrocket3000
@crotchrocket3000 6 жыл бұрын
The Crumble no never! Just never liked it in auto really, it’s such good fun thrashing around in manual
@azlong4596
@azlong4596 6 жыл бұрын
Love my DCT. I think Honda have done for motorcycles what Porsche did for sports cars, they have made exactly as you described it, Jekyll and Hyde. The AT has city manners, dirt manners or if you want sport manners. I use mine a lot in manual trans mode in the dirt, love it. I would like a new DCT for the few changes Honda did, dash, fbw, more mode adjustments and especially the user mode that you can set to your own preferences and store them.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
It's a great option being able to customise it and then save your preferences - very clever!
@07mickd
@07mickd 5 жыл бұрын
watching your vid all the way from australia and you made my day,when i noticed your location,i used to work at home brewery in arnold and later you past my old house, great vid by the way
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 5 жыл бұрын
07mickd G’day mate! Good old Arnold eh?!
@billf1305
@billf1305 5 жыл бұрын
great review Crumble I ended up buying a 2018 manual in tri colour its a great bike. chopped in a 2014 BMW r1200gs don't miss the BMW one bit
@windinthewillows6248
@windinthewillows6248 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Crumble, love my 2018 dct, spend most of my time in Sport mode 2, occasionally put it in drive, but also like using manual mode as well. Doesn’t take too long to get used too.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Great to have all those options eh - riding never gets boring!
@gwrider4329
@gwrider4329 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 goldwing dct in blue,fell in love with it on test ride.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Now that's a bike and a half...literally!!
@clarefeatherstone5429
@clarefeatherstone5429 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr C. Loved the vlog. I had a manual AT a few years back and loved it but due to circumstances I had to sell to raise some cash, I was crying when it went. I'm now in more fortunate circumstances again and I have a choice and a good deal of either a manual again or the DCT!!!! Really stuck on what to do. But after seeing this it looks amazing. I'm very fortunate to have this choice :-) Help!!
@tobortine
@tobortine 6 жыл бұрын
"G" will be for gravity Crumble, you can turn gravity on and off when you want to. It's useful when you've missed a ferry or the bridge is open.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I wondered what is was for. Thanks mate. Honda really have thought of everything!
@tstone9999
@tstone9999 6 жыл бұрын
Oh man. I don’t think I’ll ever go back to clutch. I have 18k in 2 years on my AT DCT and 70% Is off pavement. First, you need to use the paddle shifters more. I run in sport 3 but I constantly use the paddle shifters to downshift for engine braking and curves. It is WONDERFUL when you are standing in rough terrain. No need to try and find the right gear when you’re going uphill in loose gravel etc. brilliant! And mine is Gen 1.
@rogerquenault7207
@rogerquenault7207 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 DCT not quite as many settings as the 2018 model but still fantastic, I couldn’t decide between the standard or DCT so I paid the near 500 GBP and went on the AT adventure weekend and tried both, my background is off road both trails and motocross and I loved the standard as soon as I got on it and had made my mind up within 30 minutes but on the second day with the DCT it was unbelievably easy to ride both on and off road the second I got home I ordered a nice shiny new AT DCT and have enjoyed every mile I’ve put on it and I turned down a test ride on a 2018 model because just like you I would be thinking of swapping mine for a new one and just haven’t got the money. Great Vid by the way summed up the DCT very well, the one thing that you will notice if you do by a DCT version is you end up going a lot faster that you think you are purely because it so smooth, your not changing gears, the throttle position is constant when accelerating that your speeding before you even noticed it.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Great comment Rog and you did a very clever thing taking both bikes out on that weekend. I would love to do that weekend adventure but the price puts me off I'm afraid. I was mightily impressed with the DCT and if I was going to change bikes, I would deffo go down the DCT route.
@1867tons
@1867tons 6 жыл бұрын
As soon as you find the auto blipper on the dct the cheque book will be out. Engine breaking, travelling woodhead on the commute to work is excellent once you get it the ‘groove’
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I can well believe it - I really enjoyed the bike!
@jimbryce502
@jimbryce502 6 жыл бұрын
Fry up,crumble linked to the TV = Sunday morning sorted.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Easy like Crumble morning...
@andrewedmond7738
@andrewedmond7738 6 жыл бұрын
G'day from Australia brother. Like yourself I consider myself a sensible type of rider with the occasional urge to rip the throttle open and have some fun. My 2018 CB1000R allows me to do just that, whereas the 14 Vstrom takes me around the country at a touring pace. Great review mate. Definitely like the DCT variant bikes that are available now like the new Goldwing 1800. My mate has the '17 Africa, and he loves it. Once again, thanks for the review.
@tumadsvids
@tumadsvids 6 жыл бұрын
In slower traffic and suburbs I tend to sit in manual mode to choose my gears and then flick I it to Auto when speeds get more constant. I am usually in sport 2. Offroad G Button on, TC 2, ABS on and manual for me.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing how many people have told me their preferences in the comments and how many of you do different things with it! Great stuff!
@zedcharlie
@zedcharlie 6 жыл бұрын
I,ve had mine a month, box is brill when you get used to it, sometimes you think maybe i should have got a manual when it does a change that you don,t want, but you have a full manual mode , so you go to that which works better than a conventional box, but after 3 or 4 changes you are back in auto coz the auto is so easy which is the clincher. Tip if you ride in manual just touch the button, don,t ease the throttle, gear is already engaged, it,s an awesome smooth change. Also sport 1 is like i ride normally, drive is ony good for slow and flattish roads.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing how many options there are. I didn't realise it had a full manual mode too!
@zedcharlie
@zedcharlie 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheCrumble It works superb, you won,t be in manual for long but on a twisty road if you are riding hard it,s good to have the option! But sport mode 3 does it for you! I like sport 1 for normal riding, the more throttle the longer it holds the gears, and it drops down gears quicker when you brake! Mine is 2017 model
@glasshopper2010
@glasshopper2010 6 жыл бұрын
I really like my DCT. The control issue is a matter of getting used to using the DCT features instead of clutch and gear lever. You can control the engine entirely if you want. Will be interested to see what you decide.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Already decided to keep my bike. Not cos I didn't want this bike but just cos of my financial situation and me making a sensible decision. I was close though!
@crjbaggy
@crjbaggy 6 жыл бұрын
Please crumble. Please do it. I've got an Africa Twin Adventure out in Uganda. Deliberated long and hard about the DCT but went for the manual in end I was wondered about the exposed, wider gear box and the additional computer gubbins that could go wrong. In summary, it means I can live vicariously through you to see if I made the right call or not! Oh and FYI, lots of chatter on forums that the matt black doesn't hold up well over time. Might be worth checking that out depending on how far down the line you are.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Well, I'm afraid you won't be able to do anything vicarious to me cos I'm keeping my manual...for now! Decided to stick with my bike and buy it outright in the new year. Didn't fancy getting in to the PCP thing again!
@boomerhgt
@boomerhgt 4 жыл бұрын
Good review I'm fed up changing gears my car is an automatic I will never go back to a clutch
@ronbo747
@ronbo747 6 жыл бұрын
I Love my DCT... off road is the best, you just need a little time on it to dial in the operation. I have my XR400 for clutch work any time I want it.
@Steve_Hixxy
@Steve_Hixxy 6 жыл бұрын
Great review I want one and I'm not a biker , last bike I had was a dt125 years ago haha, merry Christmas crumble have a great new year .
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas tiger-have a good un!!
@gcprost
@gcprost 5 жыл бұрын
I just found a new one of these 2018's in black with the DCT. I got a great deal!
@captainaverage721
@captainaverage721 6 жыл бұрын
I've got VW 7sp DSG in my car, excellent box but think I'll stick to a manual bike thanks!
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Same here matey! I;m sticking with my manual AT. Give the DCT a go though - cracking piece of kit!
@Lanzy4lee
@Lanzy4lee 6 жыл бұрын
I have the nc750x duct 18 plate Matt black great bike was waiting for Africa twin but even with fly by wire it has no cruise control either standard or option pity
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is a pity that but the price remains really competitive!
@Lanzy4lee
@Lanzy4lee 6 жыл бұрын
The Crumble yes it is very good value . The new crf45ol is a good bike but at 9500 and short service intervals makes it a non option but be good to get you do a demo from vertu Honda ps I did my bike licence with russ at roadcraftnottingham do you know him ?
@rowanmarriott6048
@rowanmarriott6048 6 жыл бұрын
Pl
@wartbiter
@wartbiter 6 жыл бұрын
I got my Africa Twin from Vertu Honda - very pleased. On my 4th tank of fuel now.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Same as me - they have been really good actually!
@Ou8well
@Ou8well 6 жыл бұрын
Nice one Mr C. I have 2017 Black DCT Love it!
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Lucky you - great bike!
@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse
@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse 6 жыл бұрын
Looks a good bike and the finance option makes it more desirable but I get the impression the annual millage before extra charges is low at around 2000 miles/year. You should go try one of the new electric bikes and compare the differences given your liking the auto gearbox.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna stick with my manual AT. More about financial decisions though because if I was going to change I think I would go for the DCT bike!
@SBKPete
@SBKPete 6 жыл бұрын
Did you forget to pop it into full manual mode during your test ride? I had the NC750X DCT, and when following a car in drive mode, I popped it into manual, dropped down a couple of gears and then gunned it; putting it back into drive after the overtake. I really miss not having a DCT box; I have it with the car, and I will never go back to having a manual gearbox in a car. You won’t regret buying a DCT.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't even realise it had a full manual mode! next time!!
@SBKPete
@SBKPete 6 жыл бұрын
The Crumble: 0% PCP at the moment. I’m tempted to get one myself; I’ve had a great offer from Hunts in Manchester.
@stevebolton8471
@stevebolton8471 6 жыл бұрын
You don’t need to put it into manual. Just press the downshift twice and open the throttle. It will hold the gears longer under hard acceleration
@P6_7R_Nick
@P6_7R_Nick 6 жыл бұрын
A glimpse of the mast there matey. I do love the DCT. I've never tried it on the AT but I did on the Crosstourer and it was pretty amazing, particularly with all that torque the 1200 V4 gives. Agreed on the engine braking thing though. I wouldn't have it, but it is an awesome feet of engineering by Honda. I prefer quick shift and auto-blib. I take it you filmed this before your previous vid. Nice one, keep the old girl. When you doing one of your Welsh camping trips again? Find those very funny 😂👌👍
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
yeah you're spot on - these vids are a little out of kilter. I have decided to keep my bike now. Love the camping vids and will have to do another camping trip in the new year. Didn't do one at all in 2018 :(
@P6_7R_Nick
@P6_7R_Nick 6 жыл бұрын
I had noticed no camping vids this year. You've been too bloody busy working, but you ain't got that excuse for 2019 👍😁
@westorangemc1458
@westorangemc1458 6 жыл бұрын
What a well behaved video! Pretty cool bike. Ive never heard of it. Nice video
@SamCordery
@SamCordery 6 жыл бұрын
I've had a couple of these and spent a long time with the manual version too. Go back, take it out again and start with full manual mode.....this way it won't intervene in any way (apart from selecting first when you stop). This way you can hit the rev limiter, thumb it down the box and feel the slipper clutch working - essentially you get lighting quick and smooth shifts that you are completely in control of. Still believe that the DCT is the better variant. Did 9 countries in 2 weeks a few months ago on a manual cross tourer and a mate was on a DCT Africa. We swapped bikes and I realised just how much I miss DCT - it's brilliant
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Think I missed that option! Amazing how many things there were to piss about with on a 1 hour test ride! I loved the laid back thing - loved not having to stomp on the gear lever all the bloody time!
@SamCordery
@SamCordery 6 жыл бұрын
The Crumble I really believe all dealers should explain and show the manual mode first. It can be lazy as hell, or as mad as you like. I’d definitely try another and use manual, then when feeling lazy flick it into a different mode. My favourite modes were manual, then sports mode (but still with me intervening with the paddles) and then the very lazy lugging 35 in 6th on those wet dark filtering commutes when knackered
@biscuitsalive
@biscuitsalive 4 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the crf300L /rally? Thinking about upgrading from the 250l. Also thinking about the Yamaha Tenere 700. (My second bike)
@FireTwo
@FireTwo 6 жыл бұрын
Road both and it’s all about manual with the QS and down blipper. The auto would possibly be better with the foot operated shifter (add on) But the manual just felt more aggressive and the sound on up shifts was decent with a few pops and bangs
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Quite liked the tippytronic thing - felt pretty sporty doing that shit!
@whitecompany18
@whitecompany18 6 жыл бұрын
That's an expensive scooter buddy but variety is the spice of life I guess, I'm not one to point fingers, I've just bought a new Royal Enfield classic 500 in army green for touring haha, I'd love to see you out for a rip on one .
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Haha! Do you get vibration white finger on the Enfield??
@mithunkartha
@mithunkartha 6 жыл бұрын
The bike never stalls 😍
@GunCollector007
@GunCollector007 3 жыл бұрын
Looks great
@PillSharks
@PillSharks 5 жыл бұрын
I’m seriously thinking about buying a new African twin and I like the sound of the DCT.. do you know if it’s possible to bump start the bike with it?
@ArcanePath360
@ArcanePath360 6 жыл бұрын
This is what I love about my Burgman 650. I can have full auto, economy, power, and switch to manual shifting with buttons, all at the touch of a button depending on conditions. One of the few bikes (affordable) with all these options which make the daily commute that bit more bearable with the heavy traffic and 50 traffic lights to negotiate in the first 2 miles. My last 3 bikes have been Burgmans . I keep trying regular bikes like BMW F800 ST but find I hate them after test riding and think I have the best bike for me already.
@CodgerBiker
@CodgerBiker 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Sport is most natural to me rather than Drive (more of a fuel saving mode?) If I had the manual I’d be just as happy, both are great. PS I thought I saw Vic Reeves in your mirror 😉
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I did wonder about fuel saving in drive mode! The revs are so low must save a bloody fortune! Vic Reeves should be so lucky!! :)
@CodgerBiker
@CodgerBiker 6 жыл бұрын
I was a detractor. Like other detractors I did not realise how bloody well it works until I tried it. My only grumble (Crumble) is the weight of mine. Keep Fireballs Contained
@chrisbolton2500
@chrisbolton2500 6 жыл бұрын
Damn you Sir.......I'm intrigued. I'll have to try one out now.........
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely worth a go even if you don't buy the bugger! It's quite an experience!
@chrisbolton2500
@chrisbolton2500 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheCrumble That's my great fear.......... I ride it. I like it. I buy it. And what price then my reputation as a 'Rebel Without A Clue'?
@V8pauly888
@V8pauly888 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the 2016 DCT in Black done 20,000 miles love it would like the new version..... Believe me you’ll only blip that throttle the once when in drive mode 😳🤣 To have that many options on a gearbox is great surprised you didn’t try the manual mode.... Another good review 👍🏼
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure I realised there was a manual mode too. Amazing how many options you've got with that box!
@1867tons
@1867tons 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. In traffic, with my young son on the back, I caught the throttle with my glove as I was removing my hand from the bar and nearly spat him off rear wards. I shat myself - he thought it was hilarious !!
@atticusrides5545
@atticusrides5545 6 жыл бұрын
Go on Crumble, you know you want it! 🤪 I think I’ve been watching too many of your videos? 😂
@rockafella1690
@rockafella1690 6 жыл бұрын
Nice. Did you buy it then mate?
@duntrolling8876
@duntrolling8876 6 жыл бұрын
I was looking at that very bike on Friday. Is that the one in the showroom? I can't remember if it had a plate on. It was right next to a manual tricolour. You might see me around... Particularly if you ever slum it and go up the hill to Mapperley Top. Keep em peeled for a 'Sport DCT.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Mapperley Top is just up Somersby for me. I tend to keep away - lots of undesirables up there! ;)
@duntrolling8876
@duntrolling8876 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheCrumble Mutton dressed as Mutton down that end of Mapperley Plains.. I just whizz past all nonchalant-like, Visor down as you can never be too careful, and then onto the back roads, Woodborough and Lambley and points east. But anyway.. you are right in what you say about Vertu. they're great. Did a quite stupendous deal for me that I just couldn't resist.
@joshbro99k96
@joshbro99k96 6 жыл бұрын
Me again... heading up to peaks this thursday - 2 hrs away for me. Ive got Sir William Hill Rd and Tideswell lane from your videos. Any others that are rocks/gravel rather than December mud? Cheers
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Erm...let me check the map. There's one called Black Harry Lane which is very close to Tideswell Lane. It's next to a working quarry and it's nice and wide and just gravelly. Might be a fair few puddles there this time of year but all good fun! Enjoy your ride matey!!!
@joshbro99k96
@joshbro99k96 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheCrumble did those three trails today on my ATAS. My first time off road. Fantastic little "roads". Only dropped the bike once... snapped brake lever and handguard. Oh well. I'm hooked now...
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Great to hear back from you David! Your attitude is spot on I think. I came off early on in my AT career and smashed a few bits but decided to crack on. It adds such a lovely dimension to the riding experience and I just try to enjoy it now and not worry about how fast I'm going or whether I should be sitting or standing etc. I think of myself as a motorcycling rambler haha! Great to hear you've had a good day and appreciate the message! Ride safe!
@HoraceFogsworth
@HoraceFogsworth 6 жыл бұрын
At the bike show last year I got lucky with a no-show place withing 5 minutes of arriving at the off road arena. The only bike available was the DCT Africa Twin. First time I'd ridden an automatic bike and it did have me reaching for the non-existent clutch lever. I built up enough confidence to give it a (small) handful on the step-downs and get a thumbs up from the instructor but I wouldn't buy one, probably because I'm even older and more set in my ways than you Mr Crumble. I like changing gear.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I like changing gear to be fair. But because I do such a lot of city riding I do get a bit sick of changing gear!
@HoraceFogsworth
@HoraceFogsworth 6 жыл бұрын
Thankfully I don't have to spend much time in the city, work's less than a mile away so I cycle or walk. ON my CBR250 I have to change gear a lot but the controls are so light and easy I can feel like a riding god wherever I go without attracting unwelcome attention. Or so I tell myself.
@deanchild9848
@deanchild9848 6 жыл бұрын
ok Mr Crumble this is really nice DCT AT and in black looks awesome......hmmmmm...bike due next year....hmmmm
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I am gonna buy my tri-colour in the new year. i was tempted but...
@deanchild9848
@deanchild9848 6 жыл бұрын
Well if you paid off the bike then its yours and no more payments just bike Add-On's LOL :)
@mattgardner4816
@mattgardner4816 5 жыл бұрын
👍 I'm sold!!! Got to try one out! Great review! PEACE ✌️ MAN!!
@ROGEXTREME
@ROGEXTREME 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid, just a note the VW DSG gearboxes cost a fortune to fix!!! How reliable is the Honda auto box?
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I think the Honda one has been great. Not heard any horror stories...yet...
@ArcanePath360
@ArcanePath360 6 жыл бұрын
The black Africa Twin? Sounds like a song from Aldous Snow
@EvilClowns69
@EvilClowns69 6 жыл бұрын
ArcanePath360 you love African Child you bought ten copies the first day
@ArcanePath360
@ArcanePath360 6 жыл бұрын
@@EvilClowns69 I brush my teeth to that shit
@ArcanePath360
@ArcanePath360 6 жыл бұрын
@@UhYeahWhateverDude It's because they are Asian, racism doesn't apply to them, (according to the left) so the left have nowhere to go here. All they will do is persecute white men for buying the bike and picket outside his house until he gives his bike to a refugee.
@iLLuzion1st
@iLLuzion1st 6 жыл бұрын
ima simple man, I see a Crumble video, click*, like*, then watch*.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Good man - you know it makes sense!! ;)
@EastyUK
@EastyUK 6 жыл бұрын
If you get on the most technical stuff all day at slow speeds that auto would be great. Changing between 1st n 2nd on difficult terrain all day can get tiring quickly.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I would love to give it a go off-road. be great to see how it copes and how I feel not having total control.
@nigelren3719
@nigelren3719 6 жыл бұрын
Go for it Mr Crumble.
@HepcatHarley
@HepcatHarley 6 жыл бұрын
I got my FJR from there...I knew you'd be interested.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating mate. Any other nuggets?
@HepcatHarley
@HepcatHarley 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheCrumble Well....actually not, don't get me wrong, I have been thinking for the last 17 minutes and have come to the conclusion that my life is less interesting than yours, or Dave's for that matter.
@grenvillephillips6998
@grenvillephillips6998 6 жыл бұрын
All very well, but what would Dave think?
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
You called me a silly cunt as soon as I got back on him at the dealership!
@nitraat551
@nitraat551 5 жыл бұрын
Does it have cruise control options now?
@RodiGKaya
@RodiGKaya 6 жыл бұрын
So did you like it then? wasnt quiet clear :D
@jackchristodoulou197
@jackchristodoulou197 6 жыл бұрын
I run my dct on sport mode 2 I find in drive it changes gears to early
@barrywilliams7638
@barrywilliams7638 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. I had one as a replacementbike for mine for a few days, and indeed S2 is the best setting for commuting and riding outside the city. D is used in the city.
@Trysaratopz_
@Trysaratopz_ 6 жыл бұрын
Damn my short stature! I’d love to test ride an AT 😞
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I feel terrible now! They should do a short version for shortys!
@Trysaratopz_
@Trysaratopz_ 6 жыл бұрын
The Crumble 😍 just as I was preparing blocks for my boots. The vertically challenged shall get another chance 😂
@stableslayers3958
@stableslayers3958 6 жыл бұрын
So are you stripping your old one back to stock ready for the new beast crumble??
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I have actually decided to keep my tri-colour one. Possibly cos of all the shit I'd have to take off it lol
@iLLuzion1st
@iLLuzion1st 6 жыл бұрын
That exhaust sounds sexy af bro
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty bloody good for a standard can!
@christianweller4288
@christianweller4288 6 жыл бұрын
Honda's new Ad for the AT-DCT..... As good as fluffy slippers and some p*ssy..... I'm sold :D
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Haha - not sure we'll see that replace 'The Power of Dreams' just yet!
@TheBorderRyker
@TheBorderRyker 6 жыл бұрын
Ave it! 😎
@williamzoom
@williamzoom 6 жыл бұрын
I rode a CTX with dct when they came out, to me it's kind of boring and I felt disconnected from it!
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I really liked this and with the manual options you can take control whenever you want!
@cagednm69
@cagednm69 6 жыл бұрын
I've always maintained from day 1 of the vfr1200f dct release.. anyone who thinks dct is like belt drive on a scooter really needs to get their head checked in
@WazzyCabbage
@WazzyCabbage 6 жыл бұрын
Crumble what's with blurry camera ??
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
You sure you've changed the settings on your vid to 1080/50? Cant' see the blurry thing?
@Fluffy_Vizier
@Fluffy_Vizier 6 жыл бұрын
The thing I have with automatics is it's always great to ride one for the first little while. But when a month or so passes I'll start to get annoyed with the shifting moments and such to the point I just wanna crash the thing. I imagine the DCT would be no different long term. Can you re-use your mods on this at, It's not a ATAS is it? I know my own crashbars won't fit a dct.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
I decided to keep my manual bike so all of my mods still fit! :)
@brucekendall52
@brucekendall52 6 жыл бұрын
Great bike,thks.
@chrisredfield3240
@chrisredfield3240 6 жыл бұрын
Have you finished the pcp on the tri colour now ?
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Nearly mate - Feb 2019 is me done. Gonna buy the thing in the new year - finally made my mind up!
@chrisredfield3240
@chrisredfield3240 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheCrumble mine finished September 2017 to be honest i was to lazy to give it back just let them take the last payment (the big one) didn't have to do anything.
@roadwarrior8560
@roadwarrior8560 6 жыл бұрын
interesting bike, pity about the spokes though.
@rambosskidlid2459
@rambosskidlid2459 6 жыл бұрын
First again, I am the general of the crumble army.
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
You is our leader fam!! Respect!!
@mikekaestner7562
@mikekaestner7562 5 жыл бұрын
What cc size ??
@mickshere9642
@mickshere9642 6 жыл бұрын
Do they do an electric version????
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
They will do in 2087!
@mickshere9642
@mickshere9642 6 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness for that! I'll be long gone ;-)
@Womanwolfrider
@Womanwolfrider 6 жыл бұрын
Crumble in pensioner mode😳
@TheCrumble
@TheCrumble 6 жыл бұрын
Aren't I always in pensioner mode?? :)
@Womanwolfrider
@Womanwolfrider 6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@68ctcb
@68ctcb 6 жыл бұрын
Not being able to kill engine power with the clutch is a big problem, especially in an emergency where it’s possible to grab the front brakes without allowing the engine revs to settle.
@E_Clampus_Vitus
@E_Clampus_Vitus 2 ай бұрын
That’s why the bike has a paddle shifter too.
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