2019 Battlebots S04 E16 Quarter Final: Tombstone Vs Whiplash

[@theleftfootedsultan]

I miss when Tombstone was relevant.

[@zedlav915]

Ahhh those were the days…

[@denuntiasse9493]

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[@MrCharles7994]

The sport developed past it. No shame in it, its a testament to the bots now.

[@Cobrax_x]

Ray billings going vertical now,

[@ruvimsemenyuk8224]

It’s only a matter of time before tombstone returns to its former glory

[@Riteaidbob]

Win or lose, I can watch tombstone all day long.

[@jawms]

Doesn't do much loosing.

[@Ink_Floyd]

Oi, this dude's a beast.

[@batmansdad3195]

Ray needs to figure out a new wheel system for tombstone. That or hide the wheels inside the frame

[@tripollogy6874]

@@batmansdad3195 ray uses the exposed wheels on tombstone as bait against their opponents to then swing their blade around and do damage.

[@andrewjames6249]

Lol I know right, same here

[@zudawood419]

Before Tombstone faced Bite Force... it's hard to believe when Ray Billings said they have to bring their last spare frame. And Tombstone looked seemingly fine in its previous bout.

[@trentvlak]

Tombstone's last good fight before it became fragile.

[@ahyes2]

Your fragile when you put all you strength in a big ass weapon

[@ahyes2]

But the damage it deals

[@thehmmyone]

It didn't really become more fragile, the bot just couldn't handle how much force ray wanted it to dish out, that and with heavier armor and a slight slope on armor tombstone becomes nothing more than a showman

[@ziwei3070]

@@thehmmyonethe meta also changed too, 4wd verts and the new arena geometry kinda nuked tombstone's design

[@riblaglaunti1719]

Tombstone is my absolute favorite.

[@Durwood71]

This is classic Tombstone. No mercy.

[@mikedski9698]

Tombstone battles Whiplash and won in 2018! Then in 2019, Tombstone battles Whiplash and won again! Twice!

[@chardreisvlog9853]

😂

[@SethiozProject]

I literally just watched whiplash vs icewave and I was so mad how icewave had 0 control over their bot .. but this one was so enjoyable to watch. whiplash tried using tactics, but tombstone's driver is also good and he did that sideways turn swipe. He does seem to overturn a bit, but that thing just hits so hard. Only thing i don't like about tombstone is those exposed wheels, I'd build something around it or build them into the chassis like carbide.

[@bruhmoment2088]

A frame could warp into the tires, and tombstone's blade is much heavier than carbide's, so they don't have the weight to add more to the chassis.

[@jimiyu.]

There's always a matter of needing to sacrifice weight somewhere else if you want to cover wheels, and also hitting the cover can be just as bad as hitting the wheels if the cover gets bent and blocks the wheel, also ray is a good enough driver and tombstone a manueverable enough bot that you can just rotate to always keep the blade facing the opponent tldr not worth the weight just use the weapon as defence

[@garrangery8180]

Its not overturning, that's tombstones weapon accelerating. Those little 360's tombstone does after hitting whisplash are caused by the force of tombstones bar spinning up goes back into tombstones body, making it rotate.

[@SivaKanthSharma]

The exposed wheels also serve as bait. When the opponent goes for them, tombstone can simple rotate onto them. Apparently the creator said this

[@DrSmugface]

@@SivaKanthSharma makes sense, 90° turn can be done so fast and all of sudden so don't face soft tires but a steel bar spinning at ludicrous speed

[@PlutoniumBoss]

"Your wheel's off!" "It's only a flesh wound!

[@stevenkmiller]

The King of Kinetic Energy!

[@mikedski9698]

Justin Billings In The Grim Reaper Costume!

[@wesleymadsen4357]

Tombstone has dominated for so long

[@CentralGeorgiaRailfan8051]

This is tombstone back in it's prime

[@mikedski9698]

Tombstone The King Of Kinetic Energy: You Lost, Twice! Whipping Whiplash: No! Not Again! Tombstone The King Of Kinetic Energy: Oh Yes! Again!

[@BotvacProductions469]

"its acting like its 170!"-chris rose 2019

[@andrewjames6249]

Devastating hits from Tombstone!

[@DookyLeighWOT]

Whiplash probably could've taken this fight if they respected how quickly Tombstone's weapon could spin up and not rush them out of the gate.

[@zacharyowens3547]

I love how, win or lose, tombstone just wants to see carnage 😂

[@edgymix9109]

the driver just charged forward in the beginning towards a car with spinning blades. thats where he messed up in the beginning of the fight

[@servine1212]

Thats called a box rush. Its a common strategy employed vs horizantal spinners to try to stop their weapon from getting up to speed. Tombstone just had a much faster spinup time thab they were excepting, so instead of getting an ealy advantage they got swatted away.

[@edgymix9109]

@@servine1212 im sure the person controlling that car made a bad move cuz even the guy next to him yelled “there you go!” Im sure they were debating weather to rush or not and the guy who yelled even recommended him not to

[@themuffinman4044]

@@edgymix9109 if he had waited instead of charging, tombstones blade would have spun up even faster, and have delivered an even bigger hit

[@edgymix9109]

@@themuffinman4044 fair enough. Tombstone is just too op he needs a nerf

[@mewanopushbicolor2082]

Tombstone nerfed itself unfortunately. Nowadays it just hits too hard until it sometimes smacks itself against the wall until its drives just die

[@benjaminhammond6177]

Oh man, Whiplash got smoked

[@Mitjitsu]

There's a lot of powerful spinners out there so lets build a robot with exposed wheels.

[@canersen2632]

Tombstone is really MONSTER.

[@The_guy25]

I think their first fight lasted longer

[@metal--babble346]

Whiplash got a quick count out. Please ref... don't let Tombstone destroy my dad's robot .

[@sumudurasnjana9667]

What is the rules this game... please tell me.. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️☠️☠️☠️☠️

[@mikedski9698]

Billings Vs. Vasquez. The Rematch Since 2018.

[@GetHypedandShocked]

I wonder how the anti horizontal setup would do against Tombstone

[@callmeandoru2627]

Too well unfortunately

[@zedlav915]

If whiplash fought tombstone nowadays Whiplash would definitely win

[@callmeandoru2627]

@@zedlav915 As much of a loyal Tombstone fan as I am, I can't deny that.

[@Bread-e8x]

Tombstone is a classic? I'm I'm only 11 its just fun to watch

[@Kualinar]

Whiplash never had a chance in that one.

[@chrispile3878]

And yet Tombstone has been defeated more than once. Pretty incredible stuff, either way.

[@Kualinar]

@@chrispile3878 Tombstone is often his own worst enemy. In many of his defeats, he sustained more damage from the recoil of his own weapon than from his opponent.

[@chrispile3878]

@@Kualinar Live by the sword, die by the sword.

[@TACHOVENDO633]

perfect video

[@mr.arnuld]

rematch since 2018 be like:

[@mikejones8866]

Ohhhh, the humanity!! Oh, wait...

[@WSNO]

Gonna build a bot to beat tombstone. Its a 70lb rock on a arm that just drops it. Smash that thing to pieces hahaha

[@zabnichols]

tombstone's blade weighs 70lbs, your rock get obliterated.

[@Aethelia]

Is it worth the effort to point out why this won't work? There's only one way that we 100% know how to beat Tombstone, and that's to be Bite Force.

[@HarmonRAB-hp4nk]

lol I mae one, it can take a 300 pound object moving a 1000 rpm.. and it kills in one shot :-) the spike is driven by by a electromagnetic ring.. about the power of a ,50cal slap round,,, it goes through 1/4" of steel... then I find out its only brits....the dont accept anyone else ( to scared to see total destruction of the bots I guess) razer is probably to powerfull (from robot wars) that thing pierced all... no wonder its the champ LOL

[@hansballarta2738]

if tombstone had forks at the back like rotator they could beat biteforce

[@Morbios747]

True , mate

[@Chris_Prime]

After re-watching this, I think Whiplash REALLY sucks! LOL

[@zedlav915]

Have you seen the more recent seasons of Battlebots? Whiplash is incredible

[@Chris_Prime]

@@zedlav915 Yes. Sorry. I am mocking Whiplash because I love the attention, and I think it is funny how people react. Ha Ha

[@zedlav915]

@@Chris_Prime I see 😂 I love some comical attention too

[@gtcreations7666]

Well I'll give you my reaction if I thought you were serious Are you crazy!??? Whiplash is a top tier bot every season he is a massive threat to all bots of this generation prove. He's not anywhere near my favorite neither he just earned his respect from how good he actually is.

[@Chris_Prime]

@@gtcreations7666 Whiplash sucks! lol

[@zackaryfrodin7482]

Haha so cool

[@RennieAsh]

Whiplash : I will ram you so that your weapon breaks Tombstone : yes please, keep ramming

[@Aethelia]

...this is supposed to be the "Driving prodigy"? With his strategy of "feed my bot to Tombstone's weapon by moving directly into it"? Well, at least they're very good at building bots, Whiplash certainly survived more hits from Tombstone than most do, not being sarcastic when I say that that's worth something, that bot is never knocked out in one hit some some weak bots are.

[@GetHypedandShocked]

What else would they do? They didn't have a good anti-horizontal setup at the time so they could only hope to ram into Tombstones weapon and slow it down enough to control the fight.

[@Aethelia]

​@@GetHypedandShocked What else would they do? Paul V from Bite Force figured that out quickly enough. Odd that nobody talks about his driving when he is so good at it that it won him more than one tournament. Can you seriously say that Whiplash has a better driver than Bite Force? Whiplash suffers from being a defensive tank that is stuck with an amateur driver who just repeats the same strategy over and over. Getting tired of hearing about "Matty", the "driving prodigy who is great at driving" when a good driver adapts much better than whatever you would call this extremely embarrassing display.

[@GetHypedandShocked]

​@@AetheliaWhen did I ever compare Matt to Paul? I know Paul is an incredible driver but he won against Tombstone twice due to the fact that he had anti-horizontal setups on his bot. When you fight a bot like Tombstone, you have to remember that it's an incredibly destructive bot and you really have to play aggressive or have an incredible defensive setup. If you watch the fight again you can actually see Matt continue to try and point the remaining wedge at Tombstone whenever they go for a hit, trying to keep them away from the exposed half. Not to mention that this season they also fought Son of Whyachi, another horizontal spinner, where they won by implementing the same strategy they used against Tombstone

[@VJ87G]

Whiplash got whooped,!

[@icouldntthinkofagoodname7216]

I always assumed Carbide was the upgraded version of Tombstone for it has covers for its wheels and has better armor overall for protection.

[@davemacharoni3730]

It’s got better armor and is more stable, but tombstone has a sizable power and range advantage. I can’t really call either one better than the other. Their just specialized to fight in different metas.

[@johnmoog]

Billings sucks now

[@Aethelia]

His hand injury was not his fault.

[@bobsnabby2298]

Whiplash = Big Joke, has no serious weapon. Just bad design, how did it even enter the competition?

[@dippyfresh1116]

Whiplash is the exact opposite of a big joke. It was the season 5 runner up, it’s one of the best driven battlebots ever, and it beat competitors like Hydra, Minotaur, Bronco, and many more

[@Iamonepercent]

@@dippyfresh1116 yay beat 2 flippers, so scary.

[@Jaws5573]

@@Iamonepercent ya not like those flippers are legends or anything or ot definitely didn't beat sow, minotaur,black dragon and yeti while only losing to finalist or champions nah it sucks definitely

[@Aethelia]

@@dippyfresh1116 Be serious. The only reason Whiplash is kept around at all is because they contribute financially to BattleBots. Which I appreciate very much, they keep alive something we all love, and we should thank them for that. But the bot is a dull Bite Force clone. And if you watch the video, you would see that "best driven" is pure nonsense, it is just something they say, like pretending for the camera that Ray is a bad guy.

[@zedlav915]

THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MESS WITH TEXAS!!!

[@LouisLee08]

Lol

[@Thulgore]

If you want to mess with Texas.........just cut the electricity. Most of the people that live there can't function day to day without it. Heat or cold. (the cold part is hilarious)

[@souljynx]

Tombstone is from kentucky

[@tamarahamaker7734]

@@souljynx California

[@colemanchristy2770]

They are both from California

[@Chris_Prime]

Whiplash sucks!

[@tomojpeg]

No

[@Zack_Taylor]

Whiplash literally has the highest ELO other than biteforce right now. You could say that the ELO system used was flawed, but so flawed that the #2 bot "sucks"? Really?

[@Chris_Prime]

@@Zack_Taylor Ooops. Sowwy.

[@tamarahamaker7734]

I smell controversy

[@Zack_Taylor]

@@tamarahamaker7734 Is it controversial if I say that Magnus Carlsen sucks at chess, or is it just a bad take?