2019 Hobie Outback vs Jackson Coosa FD - Side by Side Comparison

In this video I'm comparing Jackson Coosa FD and The 2019 Hobie Out back. I'm doing a side by side comparison and on the water comparison.

[@MitchHeil]

This is the exact video ive been looking for. Thanks for doing that!

[@MudDuckFishing]

Mitch Heil NP thanks for watching. If the wife allows it I’m thinking of maybe getting an old town topwater and comparing it with the coosa but I’m not holding my breath. 😜

[@MitchHeil]

@@MudDuckFishing "i don't know what you're talking about honey, I've always had this one"

[@MudDuckFishing]

Mitch Heil 🤣

[@carolinakayakadventures270]

Man that was a great review!!! What an awesome job Hobie did improving the outback!!! This review make me want one!!!!! Great job brother!!! Can’t wait to get up there and fish with ya!!!

[@MudDuckFishing]

CAROLINA KAYAK ADVENTURES Thanks man. I definitely think I made the right choice switching to the outback. I do know at some point I’m going to break something but the stress free fishing is worth replacing a fin to me. Just let me know when you are ready to fish. I’m tired of this 40 deg temp and the winds blowing 20mph though.

[@carolinakayakadventures270]

Mud Duck Fishing lol I know right!! Will do!!

[@patrickscottsr.9652]

Great video, right on time. I’m currently shopping to get my first pedal kayak and the JK Coosa FD and the Hobie 2019 Outback are the two that I’m looking at. This video was so helpful. Thank you.

[@MudDuckFishing]

Patrick Scott Thank you for watching, I’m glad it helped. I think you would be happy with both, I do have to say I like the outback a lot better than the coosa.

[@guillotorres3441]

Excelent video... the little and specific things I was looking for. The reverse part shook me. I thought propels work better on reverse.

[@MudDuckFishing]

Thanks

[@christianfortun4275]

How was the jackson compared to the other kayak models? I speak Spanish so I can't translate the whole video thanks

[@AddictedAngler]

jackson does not track as well as the hobie but the ease of reverse and u dont have to spend so much money on fixing the freaking hobbie mirange drive , the two pull cables snap in time and the mirage drive need constant maintance

[@MudDuckFishing]

Addicted Angler I went through 2 drives on the coosa in one year. Jackson sent me a new drives but still it was a pain. Also if you follow tony from salt strong he also went through a drive within a year. My problem was grease leaking from the bottom and then eventually got rough to pedal. The other problem I had was the housing are wobbling like a tire off balance.

[@AddictedAngler]

@@MudDuckFishing didnt know abt the jackson drive going bad , i know few ppl who have hobie and the mirage drive is being a nightmare for them, love the fact that it is very stable and fast kayak but hobie need to improve a lot more on the drive , thanks for the info i keep it in mind when buying my new kayak

[@MudDuckFishing]

Addicted Angler I’ve hammered oysters and everything so far so good with the Hobie. Yeah I had 2 Jackson coosa fd’s. Great kayak over all but the tracking and the drive issues kind of made me want to switch.

[@tigersaint124]

I fish the brackish marsh of S. Louisiana and haven't done any maintenance in 4 years with my drive.

[@lucasmdonald7486]

Just did a demo in the outback and you only need a slight pull on the cable to change direction. , I have seen videos with people pulling really hard on the cables to go from forward to reverse no wonder some of them break. The key is to have the pedals in the netural position and then it requires only the slightest pull on the release cables .

[@dmdfishin]

Great and awesome comparison, I don't know Jack about yaks but they both look awesome to me lol

[@MudDuckFishing]

4 DA KIDZ Fishing Thanks! You should try out some yak fishin I bet you’d love it.

[@d81gartica]

Thank you for posting this video. I want to purchase a pedal drive but was undecided between the Hobie and the Jackson because I fish shallow saltwater flats and back bays on the Texas Gulf Coast. Now all I need to decide is the Hobie Outback or the Hobie PA 14. I'm 6'6 and I want to be comfortable pedaling the yak. I would like to save a thousand bucks and stick with the new outback. But if I'm not comfortable then I will to go with the more expensive and heavier Hobie PA 14.

[@MudDuckFishing]

d81gartica I weigh 235 and in a coming video I was in 4-5 inches no problem. I think you will really enjoy the new outback.

[@jerrykrobby]

d81gartica I would recommend definately test both of them out. I have a PA 14 and fish in 6" of water without any issues. But paddling the 14 is not fun! Also consider transporting it. I have a trailer so it's no problem for me but if you'll be hauling your kayak in a truck you may get tired of the weight of the PA 14 (I know I would). The seat and deck space on the 14 are hard to beat tho (I can lay a 28" red across the floor of my 14). One more thing- the Outback has gear tracks to mount your gear on where the PA 14 does not (it only has H Rails). So most everything you want to attach to the PA 14 needs the H Rail clamp accessory which adds $25 to the cost of each accessory (rod holders, fish finder, etc.). I've spent an extra $150 easy just so I can attach my rod holders and fish finder to the H Rail. Hope this helps.

[@MudDuckFishing]

@@jerrykrobby Agree

[@d81gartica]

@@jerrykrobby thanks for the info. I did my research on both yaks. I would lose about 3 inches of leg room in the outback vs the Pa14 and Pa12. I did found out the Pa 14 and the Pa12 had the exact same amount of leg room. Only thing is the pa12 is only 200 bucks cheaper than the 14. So hopefully the outback will work out for me.

[@jerrykrobby]

@@d81gartica awesome! I'm sure you've looked at all your options but if not you might take a look at the Hobie Compass. It's about $500 less than the Outback and has a little more leg room than the Outback but still has the same width and stability. Good luck!

[@donsisco7118]

Great Video, I just rented Big Rig Hd Fd, wow that steering is terrible, stability is Awesome but really heavy, now I just have to get into the Outback and decide between PA12 or 19 Outback. Thanks Again

[@MudDuckFishing]

Don Sisco Thanks, I don’t think you can go wrong with a PA or the new Outback really depends if you want more room and some more stability out of the PA

[@shaneyellin4831]

In my experience, if you're going to look at a PA, try the 14, it's considerably better than the 12. I have access to all of them but go outback 90% of the time.

[@lexwaldez]

great reviews - thank you

[@MudDuckFishing]

lexwaldez Thanks for watching. Hope it helped a little

[@1waltrp]

Fish finder installation not mentioned in video which is advantage Hobie.

[@MudDuckFishing]

I did forget that and true. That does make things easier

[@robertbdesmond]

Thank you.

[@MudDuckFishing]

robertbdesmond Np thanks for watching

[@wcarl60]

Nice in-depth comparison Id be happy with either if I could peddle Stuck with a paddle

[@MudDuckFishing]

Wesley Carl Thank you, her coosa is for sale. Even have a brand new upper and lower drive in the box still for it.

[@wcarl60]

Thanks for the offer but I cant even use my predator anymore Its too heavy for me to load and unload Im having health issues and it really restricts what and how much I can do @@MudDuckFishing

[@MudDuckFishing]

Wesley Carl I’m sorry to hear that. Are you able to mount a bixpy, or Torqeedo on your kayak.

[@wcarl60]

Its just life man I am in the getting rid of stuff not getting more I can get by with what I have& if not fish with the neighbor on his boat @@MudDuckFishing

[@MudDuckFishing]

Wesley Carl Agree less stuff to keep up with less stress and hassle

[@offdayangler2789]

I find myself using my 2019 outback more than my coosa fd. Its easier to get in and out of the water and the tank well space is more accommodating. I hate the hobie in shallow, if you don't take the drive out you get stuck with the fins.

[@MudDuckFishing]

OffDayAngler I’ve never had to take the fins out yet. I just put the position against the hull. The only time I take them out is when I pull up to the ramp. I think the only time the fins dont work in shallow water is if you have less than 4 inches between the kayak and bottom.

[@offdayangler2789]

Mud Duck Fishing when the wind is blowing and you are trying to feather and it’s shallow, get blown all into oyster lol

[@MudDuckFishing]

OffDayAngler true but that can happen with any kayak. I sometimes drift sideways in the coosa and forget to put the drive up and catch oyster and almost flipped a few times doing that.

[@christianfortun4275]

En definitiva cual es mejor ?

[@arsola74]

Nice review!

[@MudDuckFishing]

The Urban Angler Thanks! and thanks for watching

[@randyleppala5995]

I have a Coosa FD and I'm sure you noticed that this kayak does not track very straight. It seems I always have to have one of my hands on the steering knobs to assure that the kayak is going in the direction I want it to. This can be an issue when you are trying to fish. I bought the kayak hoping that with a pedal drive system I would have both hands free to fish. My solution? Modify the existing rudder so it has more control. While you may think that would cause issues using it in a shallow water situation, my "DullFinn" rudder is self-retracting, much like the Coosa FD propeller system. Check it out on my video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYmUdI18f7OdpLs - I may start fabricating these if enough interest is shown.

[@MudDuckFishing]

Sorry youtube put this in the spam because of the link. I will def check it out. I think I already have spoke with you about it when I posted the video on my rudder I made for it.

[@Aesop101]

HOBIE ALL DAY

[@MudDuckFishing]

jay love I’m very happy with it so far.

[@Aesop101]

@@MudDuckFishing enjoy it. in January I'll get my 2019 Hobie Outback. Thinking camouflage or blue. May have to toss a coin for this one .

[@MudDuckFishing]

jay love Yeah I regret this color only because in sunlight it looks yellow and inside the garage under bulbs it actually looks seagrass. I fixed that in a video coming in a few days or less. I wanted Camo but the boats around here have no awareness.

[@neilhunter1484]

Great info. Have you had the chance to test the Outback in rougher water, and if so how did it perform?

[@MudDuckFishing]

Neil Hunter The last really warm day we had I hit the intercoastal after installing the hatch seal to test it and there was a lot of boat traffic and some Yachts. It performed really good and was dry after taking water over the bow.

[@vagabond-yj8pn]

Which one is more comfortable pedaling as far as turning a full revolution with the Jackson vs just push pulling the hobi?

[@MudDuckFishing]

vagabond88817 100% the Hobie is easier. Less effort more speed.

[@vagabond-yj8pn]

Mud Duck Fishing Thanks that’s a big plus for hobi these two I’ve been looking at hard for purchase great review.

[@MudDuckFishing]

vagabond88817 Thanks. You will be happy with both but the Hobie just offers better use of storage and a better more efficient drive

[@trippster33011]

How big of a deal would you say is not having the instant reverse on the hobie? I fish in current most of the time and this is the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger on a hobie. I have seen where it is a deal breaker for some. Nice review!!

[@MudDuckFishing]

Trippster33 For me it’s not a big deal at all I only use reverse maybe once or twice and outing. When I do use it it is never urgent that I need to use it but if it is urgent I know I can be moving backwards in 6 seconds. Probably faster now since I’m used to it.

[@capefearcapt4679]

Did you happen to give the Mirage Pro Angler 14 a look before choosing the Outback?

[@MudDuckFishing]

Capefearcapt I did, I do like the space you gain with it but I didn’t want to go heavier than my coosa. It is just to bulky. If I was to find a used one for a good price the future I will probably pick one up at some point just to have one.

[@JPBevr]

I’m curious, on he topic of tracking, does the Coosa,s tracking usually result in a right turn? Is a pull to the right what is the constant battle?

[@JPBevr]

Great review. Helped me make my decision between the two.

[@MudDuckFishing]

Jerry Bevers The majority of the time for me yes. But depending on wind and current it goes both ways.

[@JPBevr]

There is a property of a spinning propeller called P-factor. I don’t know if this is what you have. But if the prop is not completely perpendicular to the direction of travel, on side of the prop gets more of a bite on the water than the opposite side because one side has a higher angle of attack of the prop blades than the other. If you can tweak the trim up or down a little would be an interesting experiment.

[@MudDuckFishing]

Jerry Bevers I see what you are saying. I think the problem is the skeg isn’t 100% solid. I think the slight movement it has steers it left or right depending on what side of the skeg the pressure is applied. It does it when you are not spinning the propeller as well as when you are. I think if they took more time to see that everything is centered and rock solid and made a rudder that cuts water instead of the inline rudder it would stay true.

[@jiml4378]

I’ve been looking at getting my first kayak and will be fishing the Gulf inshore (AL). I’m 6’3 and 285. Not young anymore so stability and standing is crucial for me. I had not even considered any Hobie but PA14 but it’s not affordable for me right now. Do you think the Outback would work for me? Thanks and I’m new subscriber.

[@MudDuckFishing]

Jim L when I first got my outback I was 250 and able to throw a cast net off of it. My friend who weighed 300 came down and tried it out because he’s moving here and wants one, he was able to stand and paddle. He is 6’ I think the stability will be there no problem but I would suggest trying one out either at a shop or rent one since you are so tall.

[@MudDuckFishing]

Jim L PA 12 could be a good option as well

[@MudDuckFishing]

Jim L And thanks for subbing, Hope I can make it worth while for ya.

[@jiml4378]

Mud Duck Fishing I really appreciate the help. I’m going to continue research. Thanks!

[@MudDuckFishing]

Jim L Hope you find a good match for your needs. Let me know what you end up going with.

[@tukamaia]

Hello my friend. I live in Brazil. There is a solution to the problem of tracking?

[@MudDuckFishing]

tukamaia The only solution I know of right now is making your own rudder.

[@tukamaia]

@@MudDuckFishing ok my friend. Very thanks!

[@MudDuckFishing]

tukamaia Np

[@allenyen5793]

W/c one is more stable on the water?

[@MudDuckFishing]

allen yen Too close to tell, I think the outbacks secondary stability kicked in a little sooner and maybe the Jackson had a slightly better initial stability. I would never get another Jackson pedal drive though.

[@allenyen5793]

Jackson pdl is not good? W/c brank of kayak have better pdl for you?

[@MudDuckFishing]

allen yen no they still have problems. I would go Hobie or old town

[@MudDuckFishing]

allen yen Hobie

[@allenyen5793]

Thank you!!

[@williambrown4086]

The Hobie is a far better storage set up .

[@smallfryproductions2184]

👌🏻

[@aljohnson1191]

Jacksons seem over-engineered while the hobies are relatively simple and effective

[@MudDuckFishing]

FowlBetterTV That’s a good look at it. The flex drive is genius but it’s really heavy and not as efficient. Don’t get me wrong I love the coosa but the Hobie is just so smooth and all the storage areas are set up perfect.

[@Asapfishing1]

Nice video man!! Hey I just uploaded a new video!! Go check it out👍🏼💥🐟

[@davetoms63]

very biased video IMO

[@tigersaint124]

Did you see what he fished out of before? A red Coosa FD.