[2019 MAMA] SEVENTEEN_Intro + Fear

Alternate Universe #17
Intro + Fear by SEVENTEEN in 2019 MAMA
#2019MAMA #MAMA #MnetAsianMusicAwards
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[@katrinanguyen8909]

sm take notes. this is how the china line should be treated

[@rowan4569]

an intellectual.

[@cassiopeiaprinceyunjaeminy4297]

Ikr

[@mageedays]

True!!! Spread equality! ❤️

[@xuxuminkook4397]

Best comment 💜

[@youAREkolokoy]

Katrina Nguyen yah thats why WayV is there to perform. You dont know?

[@zenylynesabio8814]

"Kpop groups always have one main dancer." Seventeen: really???

[@menita0723]

tHIS.

[@vieds1otemonde]

🤷‍♀️🤣

[@aivi9616]

All of seventeen member is.main dancer✨

[@britneyt5264]

lol even if so, Seventeen doesn't even have one official main dancer, they have two official lol, but yea true they are all

[@bienesraices3181]

They all dance amazing. But I think the best are Hoshi and Dino XD

[@mcdepress0]

BTS took home the trophy. SEVENTEEN took home the title.

[@username7765]

bts won?? (just asking)

[@salmaaden6898]

@@username7765 yeah

[@kryspicreme]

this is the most accurate comment

[@navyafrancis1511]

Periodt!

[@weipingkang3248]

Even though the award goes to BTS but SVT still have the titles as one of "the best performance in kpop industry" their stage preference!!!! no one can beat SVT.

[@ezrunnnnn]

I literally searched 'Wonwoo eat flower' to find this video

[@kosalraman2381]

Same lol

[@sofiahani5471]

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[@luthfianura4105]

2 years late, but i'm not alone lol

[@sugakookie4life205]

oh i'm not alone XD

[@latifahsalsabilah8551]

same lol

[@KaylaInzar]

Seventeen: "We're gonna EAT this performance!" Wonwoo: *eats rose* Seventeen: "...n-not literally"

[@Jane-dy9le]

I was shock too..Wonwoo eats rose😳😳😳them scream coz hes so hot🔥🔥🔥

[@Im__Nana]

And the way he gazes sharply at the camera wHOA BOY I'M DEAD--

[@allyyoo]

i laughed too loud

[@rahmahriaz5401]

Kayla I I choked on my food!! Wonwoo sweets are you ok?! 😂😂

[@Im__Nana]

@@cavanxie2137 yeah, also, he is the guy who rides a tricycle while saying pootie pootie lol

[@kasa5131]

The fact that they preformed right after the best dance award......Mnet how does it feel to be a clown I wonder

[@h9964]

Notice me Jeonghan senpai 😂😂😂😂😂

[@virus-ht9bk]

Your username is me

[@sol-nr4iu]

They were already clowns

[@shiningdiamond8080]

Jeonghan oppa 😘😇

[@comebackletsstreamsvtmvaga7855]

Mnet, I wonder how could you live knowing that you're just a bunch of no B.R.A.I.N. (gose😂😂)

[@gaesblu]

The biggest mystery in kpop industry is that seventeen did not win the best dance performance

[@stantalentsstancomediansst5712]

It's all stopped at MAMA 2018....

[@m.syauqiabdurahman2798]

@@stantalentsstancomediansst5712 yeah They won that nominee 2 times in a row so i hope they win it But Mnet then pulled some off the out of the box decision and decided to give it to Boy With Luv

[@hafsashakeel3325]

don’t get me wrong i’m so happy for bts, in fact i didn’t stan seventeen when this came out but looking back seventeen really do deserve best dance and album of the year. it’s a shame fans base this off of popularity and not actual talent. the WHOLE of seventeen are literal main dancers and do almost everything for themselves such as: producing, writing lyrics, choreography etc. i’ve never seen another group so talented.

[@stantalentsstancomediansst5712]

You are so right and thank you for this

[@shakira7301]

Even before bts debuted MAMA was about voting so i don't understand why voting suddenly became a problem, exo used to win those days because of voting, bigbang wins because of voting, snsd wins because of voting and bts wins because of voting too.

[@hoggingice5235]

Tbh Seventeen deserved that award more..I've been thinking about this since I was an army and I'm not dragging BTS in this but their bwl choreo is way more easy than Hit or Fear..They got the award because of their popularity and since MAMA loves to rob talented people..Imgaine how much pressure and stress the leader line or Hoshi might have gotten when they found out they didn't win the award

[@kuukiuu]

@@hoggingice5235 the frustration is very much visible during clap and hit

[@to_moontiny]

Same with me! Their performance left me absolutely speechless. No other performance that year made as big of an impact as seventeen did.

[@yungjoolee1161]

Seventeen: *didn't win best dance Seventeen: ok guys let's show this idiots who is the real winner Edit: why are they arguing in the replys:/

[@al-ht1fr]

I wonder who won the best dance?

[@merqbalar]

@@al-ht1fr bts

[@bossjihyo2276]

ezgibeingdisappointed I kinda felt that 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@xanti_v9930]

hi guys, welcome to this fucking cooking show!

[@AKaq-iv3nt]

@@merqbalar wait isn't the winners ateez

[@amchandran_]

and together we say: “svt got robbed of their award”

[@chasityinfante6697]

General React 1004 seventeen got robbed of their award

[@katie0707]

svt got robbed of their award

[@williamprouteau75]

I mean every band that is not BTS is robbed of their awards at some point with MAMA... (I don't blame BTS of course)

[@KAM-gl9dp]

I am a fan of both but bts is my ult group and I was still shell shocked when svt didn’t win the dance award thingy. I mean bts does have good dances but svt has one that award for like the pass three years and they deserve it so I was really shocked when bts won it.

[@mageedays]

They really got robbed! Omg! Sorry to the one who received the award, but this is the real best. . .

[@NewOldObsession]

wonwoo eating the flower, the glares from the members to the cameras, the LIVE ASS VOCALS (esp DK with his ad libs omg), Hoshi covering S.coups' parts, the dance break at the end, and last but DEF not least: the Jeonghan X Mingyu part

[@user-xg8zk9yd5e]

칼군무 맞추겠다고 각도 신경써가며 연습하고 컨셉트 맞추겠다고 연습실 불 꺼놓고 연습하고 개인 파트 표정연기만 3시간을 한 사람들이에요 난 이 무대가 퍼포먼스 상을 받지 못한 이유를 아직도 모르겠어 2020 마마 세븐틴 제대로 봐주세요

[@user-wx5mz7xr2w]

아 진짜 너무 속상하다 퍼포상 😭 이번에도 즙같은 마마 때문에 하....

[@user-dw9il9mn6s]

누가 퍼포상 받았나요 무슨 노래로? 누가 받았는진 뻔하지만...

[@user-lx2hy8zh4p]

@@user-dw9il9mn6s 방탄소년단분들이 받았을 걸요,,,,

[@user-dw9il9mn6s]

@@user-lx2hy8zh4p 허허...작은시로 받았다네요;;

[@aquademiria294]

Yes mid finger to mama :(

[@nyahmay2512]

when jun and minghao got their own dance break i literally burst into flames, stan China line

[@evimin5326]

It was such an awesome idea They got their own time to shine

[@nliaa11]

I was literally like "akakajshdhshsja?! O.O" Because I didn't expect that at all 😍

[@ratberry9807]

When China line has a dance break, you have the dance break with them.

[@gatid1698]

How can I Stan seventeen?? Am I late?? 😫😫😫

[@akshayaravi7680]

@@gatid1698 never too late darlin. But I'mma warn you you won't be able to choose a bias

[@cayla_alia]

svt: “main dancer? we don’t have that”

[@BetterEggsOfficial]

Cayla Johnson svt: “main dancer? we have 13 of them”

[@ppap3916]

Better Eggs ha ha true

[@hannalim3368]

I think it is more like "we all are"

[@chasanha7439]

all of them are powerfull😇

[@rupaschannel5856]

No they have 13 main dancer😊

[@kyliewonyeol6691]

just saying this is bomb performance, as an exol I stopped watching MAMA after they disrespected EXO so much in 2017. I’ve seen clips of other performances and nothing stood out as much as this. This is honestly so beautiful, kings are getting robbed every year. p.s. I’ve started stanning them this quarantine (thus only seeing this perf in 2020)

[@vennelasiri1941]

Sorry but what happened to exo in 2017?

[@vanniarodrigo1140]

Welcome to the clubbb

[@kavindigimshani5010]

I HAVE THE SAME EXACT STORY.

[@multifandom871]

@@vennelasiri1941 a lot of shit happened to them in MAMA 2017

[@ggjnvjvhjj3696]

Thank you. I am also exo l and carat

[@psychedelicacynical]

Fear is not just a song, it is an artistic expression of human despair, fear and insecurity, its musical impact and intensity is groundbreaking. anyway seventeen killed it

[@sanjisootudiospecador7707]

no one: literally no one: wonwoo: *eats rose* *the best performance, you can't change my mind*

[@user-xg1bk4jv2e]

я плачу, это было шикарно

[@nerobeatzzz]

we can't

[@rosezhang6767]

No don’t eat me

[@ericsoncerojales2055]

Maybe its edible😂

[@succulentverden9864]

c r o n c h

[@dinopyeon]

No one: SEVENTEEN: Singing live with hard choreo and high notes

[@dedeana2252]

the way im laughing

[@lei2728]

bij they even deserve more

[@violetta8570]

Still a mystery for the world...

[@dinopyeon]

Everbody knows what they are capable lets try a bit harder next time

[@dinopyeon]

@@dedeana2252 hehe i thought it was not a funny video😌lol anyway im atleast happy that it made someone laugh. Laugter is the best medicine

[@mikaela4804]

I'm back here again to say to you, MAMA 2020, that SEVENTEEN deserve to have a Daesang this year. Seventeen had 2 korean and 2 japanese comebacks and the 2 korean album had a 1 Million pre orders, they became a double million seller with a year. You gotta be kiddin' me if they will not win.

[@wonwoosbokdeongeori3191]

Ikr if this happens again...that's it i'm digging myself to korea I can't take unfairness like this for second time....the whole year seventeen worked their ass off..they deserve and must get an award(daesang)

[@mikaela4804]

@@inassalima4070 i didn't even mentioned any artist here. And I didn't said that your fave is not deserving. If you are a real carat then you get what i mean, and if you are not then idc.

[@mikaela4804]

@@inassalima4070 and I didn't talk about Album of the Year here. I just stated that SVT deserves a daesang because they have so many achievements this 2020 inside and outside of Korea.

[@cashonly7044]

MAMA reali say's Award is according to popularity...we don't count talent 💀

[@MEOW-pn5lp]

이 무대는 퍼포상 발표 이후에 했다는 점에서...내 심장을 울린다 빡치다가 무대 감탄하다가 빡치다가 한탄하다 또 빡치다가 이걸 계속해,,반복해,,나쁘게,,사랑해...

[@user-tv5ln8qr7v]

센스보소

[@user-np8xn2dy4p]

상은 이미 정해져있는데 이무대가 먼저 나가면 상받는 팀이 쫌 심란할까봐 시상후에 했다는???

[@blllos]

the fact they didn’t win for best dance.. do we really need g-dragon to come and diss mama/mnet again?

[@mongmong2968]

Gd : let hyung be your guardian diss boy

[@nayanaharidas1897]

We want BIGBANG back on MAMA!!!! GD is preparing his new Diss Lyrics......

[@itsonion651]

Honestly, though, get god on the phone

[@theshield2027]

Well BIGBANG returning soon so GD about to go all out

[@e.c.s.t321]

Please GD we need u again 😁

[@loveskboo]

Mama 2019: Best Male Performance is not Seventeen Seventeen: Let me show you what performance really IS.

[@neemoi3280]

bro ikr :( I was so sad when they didn't win, they literally did they best this year but.. ofc popularity always win talent. :/ at least we won't give up carats let's do our best!!

[@massiellenao5980]

They deserve it:(( but we knoe how snake is mnet sooo :(((

[@ikranx.4578]

Home + hit + fear released this year and not winning . Tragic

[@kei-hk1fj]

LOUDER SWEETIE

[@SierraSl]

ohmyjjoy 오마이조이 any category BTS is in, they’re going to win bc of them having a big fandom🤷🏽‍♀️

[@reniw9378]

IS ANYONE NOT GOING TO TALK ABT HOW MINGHAO AND JUNHUI SLAYED THE CLOSING CHOREO THO DAYUUUUMMMMM

[@user-sy2yz4cf3m]

흑화한 전원우 꽃이랑 무대씹어먹기+단체 딱딱맞는 군무+호시 개인 퍼포먼스까지가 인트로 라니.. 진짜 대박이라는 말밖에 안나온다... 역시 세븐틴..

[@mandu7996]

Hoshi rapping Seungcheol's part, man this hurts #getwellsoonscoups

[@x3Fallenx3]

I'm not informed on this, is scoups sick or just taking a break?

[@huggabear4926]

@@x3Fallenx3 he has symptoms of anxiety..he's taking a break rn

[@mandu7996]

@@x3Fallenx3 he's taking a break

[@elinorbrunner4669]

I hope he knows we’re all here for him.

[@xelimay]

wendil although I’m not a Carat I feel your pain 😔

[@marciliaaraujogomes9696]

seriously people don’t understand how POPULAR SEVENTEEN is in Japan entire blocks in front of main stage are full of Carats! we’re all screamed like crazy so loud when they took off the hoods #MAMA2019

[@nooneinparticular8383]

Really? Thank you soooo much for being there for them!!!!

[@halimahharahap5741]

thank you!! your screams are awesome sjskshsj u guys are the best

[@sudiudangcuatieulachao9922]

How was the fanchant there??

[@studytimelapseforyou]

Me too,I was shouting behind my phone

[@leejihoon5739]

Well i cheered on the screen .... of my phone....

[@CopperCassie]

Love this performance. Wonwoo's introduction and Hoshi's solo at the beginning were awesome.

[@three30009]

Seventeen does not thirst for fame and instead they shower us with amazing performance. They don't need fame because their talent and hardwork can achieve many things in a genuine way. Im proud to be a CARAT and forever will be

[@isabellehannahomana1118]

BEST DANCE PERFORMANCE IS NOT A POPULARITY AWARD MAMA GIVE JUSTICE TO SVT

[@isabellehannahomana1118]

@@novajjay yeah ik tho😂😆

[@novajjay]

@@isabellehannahomana1118 I replied to the wrong comment my bad 😳💀

[@kryspicreme]

huhu ikr

[@carrotjun5709]

I want svt to make a diss song about Mama

[@nadya_21]

We all know now MaMa is just an EMPTY TROPHY :")

[@annabella7253]

Hey SM, this is what it looks like to respect your Chinese members 5:09

[@atinycarat_1407]

i was thinking the same thing omlll haha

[@aninamarie11p.17]

Bella Law maybe because seventeen gas more freedom than other groups i think? Because they make everything by themselves so in a way they do decide who gets this and that.

[@Jane-dy9le]

Coz they love their members equally,,daddy coups wont let anyone degrade his family,,not even his agency.

[@fz9968]

Totally right

[@imry4367]

They never hear us ☻

[@user-lq3pk9wh2l]

그래서 이 무대하고 포퍼상을 못받았다고? 미쳤네

[@user-fl9em8gb6f]

못받앗어요??? 설마 ‘그’ 그룹? 맨날천날 인기 상받아가는 그 그룹인가..

[@user-fo7bh1ge3m]

@@user-fl9em8gb6f 인기상도 인기상이지만 모든게 인기라고 볼 순없음 실력도 있으니깐 받겠죠

[@Yoon_Dong-Hee]

@@user-fo7bh1ge3m 혹시 그쪽?

[@user-fo7bh1ge3m]

@@Yoon_Dong-Hee ㄴㄴ 모아

[@esssi3872]

tbh even as an army i think they deserve the award, mama should really start thinking about how some awards are not meant to be decided upon by popularity. Its not to say that bts didn't deserve it but obviously the most probable reason they won was because we have the biggest fandom

[@zhyn2331]

I like your mindset. Thank you for appreciating Seventeen.

[@airajeanolan2755]

BTS is deserving to win the best dance performance, actually all artists deserves it, but no one is more deserving than SEVENTEEN. I mean look at their performance, that performance is really out of this world yet they only got special awards? I'm just disappointed that they award artists by popularity, not by their talent.

[@akitoyr]

i’m an army, but I agree with this. they award artists by popularity 😔

[@ednamodee]

vitaminghao yes like I love me some BTS but seventeen deserved that especially with this damn choreo

[@kimnuwlovesyou3077]

Tea👌

[@khelzydegracia509]

I'm an army, but for me seventeen deserve the Best Dance Performance

[@pdowey5995]

It is so annoying on how they look at the voting made by the public they should give the award to the group who deserved it the most

[@chizuzei]

everyone ask me friend: "why you screaming hey?!" me: "because wonwoo please help me😭"

[@Y.art2690]

He is look like anime

[@leonardabenitez5651]

SAME ENERGY BROOO

[@wandarivera6172]

Hi. Boys you want to help you ko. And. You. Help me to I. Love you so much baby kiss me 💋💜 Wanda♥️♥️♥️

[@maffyl822]

They only had a 5 minute performance?! They deserve to perform longer! And I am glad MAMA finally granted them their first Daesang 8 years since debut!

[@mai4717]

They perform hit after this too

[@ashleyalleadelacruz3813]

Everyone else: "Why SVT didn't win best male dance...?" , (talks about Wonwoo eating rose) Meanwhile me at 2:56.... "J-Jeonghan..... Mingyu...... WTF?! ajzgwbajahwvwbw 😳"

[@Chloe-nf4fw]

I don’t know any of seventeen, but man just straight up ate the rose.

[@bellapark1383]

Chloe his name is Wonwoo and off stage he’s a cinnamon roll. On stage well...you saw.

[@zuzu6864]

I was surprised myself and I'm a carat... pls trust me when I say that Wonwoo is the very definition of a cinnamon roll off stage xD

[@summer-gj3oc]

yeah that *cronch* just shook me to the core, i did not expect that but it was hOt ngl

[@answercereus1000]

mood

[@zeraa5357]

all these comfortable beds and people still sleep on seventeen

[@RoseDominoes]

😩😂

[@minutes.to.midnight]

moonlightxox I SHOULDNT BE LAUGHING THIS IS SAD BUT OMG 😂😂😂

[@alcrzumi]

HAHAHHAH OMG

[@AdilKhan-uq2nm]

Yeah 'cuz we too good for them...

[@AdilKhan-uq2nm]

@Eman Fatima Lol that's so wrong 😂 But I'll take it

[@redamancysolitaire6908]

It’s already October but i still will never forgive MAMA for doing seventeen so dirty

[@redcokezero5021]

december now... same

[@yshee3950]

@@redcokezero5021 (2)

[@zhyn2331]

Here before MAMA 2020 tmrw and same!!!

[@yshee3950]

i swear i will never watch mama again if svt will not win an award for mama, svt getting rigged by mma and aaa breaks my heart so much

[@marynaloboda4922]

Welcome to the club..EXO got the same and not only on mama😪 As almost 3 yr old as carat i can feel you. Some Army's says all the time, that EXOL's just jealous. Oh, sure, yeah. When your favourite group crying hard, being dragged, with all the disrespect...sure, it's all just jealousy. When i see a true winner, i will say: this is the winner. Seventeen were winners

[@multifandomjypfam1588]

I just wanna say this Mingyu Looks like a actor and has perfect visuals Jeonghan is just im speechless... Vocals Visuals YES YOON JEONGHAN Seokmin He is so underated he deserves more

[@howoozi]

Nice decision to put them after the Best Dance award. It's like "Hey we're the real winners here."

[@ayuanindiyaf3263]

TRUEEE🤣

[@caratnevies]

LOUDERRRR

[@easycomeeasygoes6598]

LOUDERRRRRRR

[@romsiiyah]

yes! 🤣🤣

[@WONRIN-yp6gp]

True af

[@kyrabytes563]

Hoshi rapping Seungcheol's part is the saddest yet most beautiful thing in the world

[@rielontoc1001]

what time stamp?

[@hyungwon119]

@@rielontoc1001 3:14

[@sitiaishah9739]

Who is seungcheol...I'm a new carat

[@jameswhiteman9048]

@@sitiaishah9739 S coups, the captain if SVT. He had a hiatus so he was taking a break. He's back now better than ever tho ;)

[@taestanning6249]

@@sitiaishah9739 Welcome to the diamond life 💎

[@nicole.dcver_11]

1:56 Hoshi to MAMA be like: Let us show you what real PERFORMANCE is bijj

[@rosellynsabuelva3643]

I still remember how ICONIC this performance and how seventeen proved that they should had win BEST DANCE PERFORMANCE...

[@rozaliaacal]

I don’t care about the award anymore. I can see and everyone else with eyes can see that this was clearly the best performance.

[@ItsRyuuuu]

Best performance of course bts.. But if it choreography seventeen will win for sure...

[@axisboise]

ACE fz_xxdme The award cearly says DANCE PERFORMANCE 🙄

[@Jane-dy9le]

@@ItsRyuuuu its best dance performance actually.,we know who trully wins.so its ok.

[@Jane-dy9le]

Its ok,,we knows who trully has the best dance performance,,just let it go guys,its just a trophy..we can win it in a more honest award show next time.

[@macristinacuriano8776]

@@Jane-dy9le Its best dance performance cause obviously the choreo is not hard as compared to BTS.

[@noiurze]

this is why carats can't stay loyal to their bias

[@Apetitegirly]

i stayed loyal to josh

[@areyoukimbopkidding3880]

I just can't choose a bias, it's like my bias changed in every single seventeen video

[@hubahibrolen]

accurate af

[@hoshitmykimbap2648]

I C O N I C I think this is one of the performances tht dragged many ppl into the fandom esp with Wonwoo having that mukbang in the beginning :0 I can't wait for them to own this year's award show performances, praying more ppl to slip into this fandom♡

[@chocipudding]

THIS IS WHAT YOU CALL BEST DANCE PERFORMANCE EVERYONE! STAN TALENT NOT POPULARITY!

[@jessicawu_99]

MAMA 2019's judges were definitely drunk when they decided on who should receive the Best Dance Performance Male Group

[@violetta8570]

I think it based on popularity... But we all know that popularity can't overshadow talent :) World knows who deserves it actually..

[@namjoonsmoonchild3677]

I wish y’all would stop acting like popularity is the ONLY reason bts won they won because they work hard too they work hard to practice plan and perfectly perform their songs and choreography it’s not like they just stand on stage doing nothing and win for no reason stop degrading them because you’re mad seventeen didn’t win just work harder to help them win next time

[@violetta8570]

@@namjoonsmoonchild3677 I'm sorry, I didn't say BTS didn't deserve to win, they are amazing and I love their stages although I'm a Carat. What I mean is I don't care how Seventeen isn't as popular, maybe as BTS they're still talented and deserves the world. Sorry if you misunderstand me :)

[@namjoonsmoonchild3677]

Little Red Hood I’ve been seeing some really rude remarks from carats and I’m shooketh cuz they are usually sweet and peaceful so I misunderstood you I thought you were saying bts popularity can’t overshadow seventeens talents but you didn’t I’m sorry 😅😂 (I love bts and seventeen too) 💜💜

[@violetta8570]

@@namjoonsmoonchild3677 I'm so sorry about that rude remarks, Carats actually should be known as calm fandom :"" and I know Army isn't totally toxic, I have many Army friends too and we support each others :)

[@aungko7083]

The award doesn’t define the quality of artist. The stage define the quality of artist. SEVENTEEN proved that their MOST SYNCHRONIZED GROUP title one again through this stage. So fellow Carats don’t be disappointed about not winning. We will just try harder next year but still this rigged award show give to whoever they like tho.

[@As2e4Y]

The gap in fan votes was massive and sales, views plus everything else BTS were miles ahead. SEVENTEEN are an amazing group and one of the best Kpop performers but it's not always about how difficult the choreography is. BWL was everywhere and many people knew the choreography and had more of an impact. Your saying its rigged but because BTS won it clearly shows that it wasn't. If they didnt win this one then it would've definitely been rigged. All the awards BTS won today showed that the voting and all the criteria that mama put out was followed through and done properly for BTS

[@omayma.9392]

all these awards don't define the artist... for example. Ateez should've won too... I'm an atiny but also a Moa and we all know damn well that Ateez is the real winner.. I swear those awards. MNET SNAKE. So many groups should've have won some things... but it's always the more popular that wins even if they didn't do that well...

[@dmrs4617]

Ddaeng땡 what the hell are you talking about? Bts only win this category because then fandom is huge not because they deserve. it's pretty clear that everyone agree that seventeen deserve this win the only one thinking this is right is bts fandom like always you guys picture they like perfect gods and the only one to be able to be talent, and MAMA did seventeen so dirty... anyways is pretty sad.

[@omayma.9392]

@@dmrs4617 w8 who are you talking to ?? coz if it's me I never said all of this lol.

[@As2e4Y]

@@dmrs4617 BTS only won because their fandom is huge, if that is the case why are you complaining, work hard and get your group up to where they deserve to be. Vote, stream and watch their videos more. When did I say SEVENTEEN are untalented and that BTS are the only group that has talent. Who mentioned anything about them being gods, why are you making stuff up it doesn't make sense. How did MAMA do Seventeen dirty, they performed didnt they and killed it. If popularity bothers you so much then you shouldn't be complaining on here.

[@ckrjfilm]

wonwoo made me watched seventeen and they're freaking talented. Been watching them since 2 days ago. hahaha! the second artist I might stan out of yge :)

[@ho5hi_kwon17]

It’s Nov. 2023 and still I cant forget this stage it’s so *ICONIC* .

[@Partyhard406]

MAMA maybe next year you can consider creating awards like "fan's choice dance performance " instead of using "best dance performance" if the decision you made is largely (if not solely) based on the number of votes. "Favourite" and "Best" are two different terms.

[@juliafung9840]

Or make it into a smaller percentage. Like 10-15% u know

[@Partyhard406]

Julia Fung Yes! If they are to choose the BEST of any award, it would be better to put large extent of professional analysis into consideration when deciding who’s the winner.

[@shannonc9680]

PERIOD

[@emmaclarke8863]

I mean I love bts and they hold a special place in my heart but I got so disappointed and even a bit angry at the fact that army practically just glitches the system like THEYRE GREAT AND ALL BUT LETS JUST RESERVE A YALL ARE GONNA WIN ANYWAY AWARD FOR THEM AND GIVE THE REST OF THE INDUSTRY A CHANCE.

[@vildadestin4061]

Tea

[@soeulightskcover6018]

My father count the member of seventeen and he was like "They are only 12? Where's the other member?"

[@joanmarie7598]

You're father's a carat?

[@atiyawaseem4504]

That’s nice 😂❤️

[@syubgyu2857]

Your father is a carat 😮😮😀😃😄☺️😊 He didn't ask where's the other 5

[@sitinursufian5682]

Cool

[@melineluisetti]

oof that hurted😔

[@horangieluv8454]

The title given to SEVENTEEN "KINGS OF SYNCHRONIZATION"👑👑 is for this . Their performance dance is not a joke. Can you hear me seventeen "You deserve the award" For us u are the winner♥️♥️

[@aisyahmarzuki1305]

just hoping our seventeen got their award for this 2021 mama

[@TeacherYuan40]

true

[@cliorafaeduardo1578]

do you need autotune? lipsync? hoshi : wait, what was that?

[@nayanaharidas1897]

Literally the whole Seventeen: What's autotune? What's lipsync?

[@eunicecledera1602]

The fact that he only uses it in his horanghae song

[@yj-oq3jh]

@@eunicecledera1602 HAHAH TRUE

[@user-or3wi6cz9h]

svt: runs to the other stage : Did Pledis train them on how to run beautifully or something...???

[@Jane-dy9le]

I love that run part,,,😍😍😍😍well the whole performance really..

[@chewbacca5197]

pledis? no hoshi probably taught that himself

[@Jane-dy9le]

@@chewbacca5197 as expected of Hoshi,,he always has some wonderful ideas to make their stages as spectacular as this.

[@mageedays]

Pledis father really love his children so much !

[@user-or3wi6cz9h]

handdori yup i agree with that

[@isabelle-tf1gf]

fear + hit = masterpiece

[@user-py1yq6gb8d]

우리 워누 꽃을 씹어 먹은게 아니라 아주 그냥 무대를 씹어 먹었네ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ세상 순둥하다가 무대만 올라가면 졸라 섹시하고 치명적인고 이 할미 진짜 심장에 무리온다ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ

[@meiy497]

Google search: How to be a rose

[@user-dx3jg6er1m]

Seventeen: We're gonna EAT this performance Wonwoo: Seventeen: Wonwoo: Rose: * crunch crunch *

[@ssk2033]

The way I laughed at that last past

[@parksunghoonyes]

GOODBYE THE CRUNCH CRUNCH GOT ME 😂😭

[@Joy-de8vc]

Your humour I like it 😂

[@jennacage]

for my own personal purposes when I come back to this video: 1:01 wonwoo? Sweetheart? that's a plant honey 1:27 HORANGHAE SUPREMACY 1:58 fear fully starts 2:24 WOOZI'S BADASS SOLO PART HELL YEAH 2:54 jeonghan's part that made me sob during the m/v 2:57 I- I want to be either of them during this part🧍🏻‍♀️ 3:12 crying real tears. Hoshi bodied that. so happy s'coups is back :')))) 3:40 JUN! CENTER!

[@johntheljalbuena3452]

We all collectively know that Hoshi is mad during this performance. The whole of them even.

[@svt-4a3j1dk6]

It should be THE BEST DANCE PERFORMANCE in 2019. Seventeen deserve better.

[@safrina2442]

Fanny Tsang yassssh, they deserve the whole world whoop

[@olgabrt]

I'm an army but I totally agree with this. There are no better dancers than Seventeen

[@namjoonsmoonchild3677]

Yes dance they deserve it

[@newjeanstv3705]

Lmao some artist got robbed

[@dianrahayuningsih8084]

@@olgabrt no, youre not.

[@kfan5899]

I’m honestly surprised Seventeen didn’t win best dance performance. They definitely surpassed themselves from last year, improving so much.

[@FegaArabela]

Who won it?

[@puppygyu3707]

@@FegaArabela bts

[@inesfr4071]

@@puppygyu3707 bruh fr ☠

[@mayonera904]

@@puppygyu3707 rly? I thought it was Ateez cus bts won best performance award??

[@FegaArabela]

@@puppygyu3707 tf? Uhh okay. That's what happen when u rely on votes rather than judged by someone who ACTUALLY know how to dance.

[@wonwoogf07]

this performance still felt like a fever dream to me, it's so INSANEEE

[@byeolbam616]

the biggest flex is that they put on the best performance of the night right after being robbed of the performance award as if to show everyone how rigged mama actually is

[@anisanurandina1486]

Mama 2019: Best Male Performance is not Seventeen me : it's okay the world know who the real winner is!

[@Jane-dy9le]

So true.i still cant move on with this shocking robbing,,but ill try..

[@anisanurandina1486]

@@Jane-dy9le we all know who's the real winner :')

[@Jane-dy9le]

@@anisanurandina1486 yeah,so lets just go watch Seventeen's mv..hows that??😉😉😉

[@axisboise]

I love the positivity of this thread 😍 Let's enjoy some svt MVs!

[@chasanha7439]

yes agree

[@Julian-gv4ej]

SEVENTEEN winning on MAMA 2019🏆👇 🏆Breakthrough Achievement 🏆3rd Worldwide Fans Choice

[@hyrayu5492]

It should be more..I wish

[@axisboise]

äeñis uni We know they are the true winner of the Best Dance Performance Male; but for now, carats are outnumbered by the winner's fandom. Let's hope SVT will someday get the award everyone knows they deserve. For now let's support them in wveryway we can.

[@FuseRedditor]

*3rd

[@yaAhne10]

Wtf is 3th? HAHAHA

[@lalaloey8240]

I wish they will going to get best in dance

[@aakritibansal4451]

its disgusting how mama gives awards based on the popularity instead of the deserving ones i still cant believe seventeen didnt win best performance for this

[@kaidobread]

it’s been like 2 years and i’m still upset that they didn’t win best performance

[@TeacherYuan40]

true

[@aliciaonding6331]

Tapos na ba awardan ung best performance nung sinayaw nila to??

[@sarahmaeespina9586]

​@@aliciaonding6331 yes

[@wonhoisbackmx7553]

I was so confused when they didn't win, like actually shocked and confused. This was WAY TOO GOOD for them not to win, but it's fine because even if they didn't win it physically, we know that they're winners, and we know how good they are.

[@Kazwolo4419]

voice for Wonho, come back some people can’t recognize beauty until later :(

[@belanie7145]

Who won

[@Kazwolo4419]

Emilyn Sanchez BTS

[@belanie7145]

@@Kazwolo4419 I'm an army, I just want to say that maybe they didn't win b/c it was a recent song I gues? and I agree this song is amazing

[@wonhoisbackmx7553]

@@belanie7145 I'm an army as well (multi stan) but its mostly because of how big the fandom of army is compared to carat. IK that this year fan votes aren't a big part of it anymore, but because of the digital sales (for example) and other stuff as well that army does it gives them a bigger advantage. BTS is very skilled and very talented, but that's one of the HUGE reasons why

[@prodcj6859]

Is it me that only watched Seventeen's Performance and their Awards on MAMA 2019 coz promise its really boring they deserve better and there is group Oneus that attended the event but didn't given an award and Iz*One and X1 were not theur because of the issue but congrats to the other idols who win awards too

[@hadassah6563]

And nct didn't get anything, except for wayv😭

[@hadassah6563]

But I thought, of course that seventeen would win the performance award

[@MissStaceySurrender]

I only watched Seventeen performance too. Lol

[@riskawandi]

Hadassah its okkkk SM artist defintely out off this award :) except wayV bcs.. why not hehe

[@hadassah6563]

@@riskawandi not that award. But all the other ones😭 And u really wanted ateez to win new male artist. I love txt (I actually stan them more than ateez) but I feel like they should have won. 😢

[@peachyhey7364]

Yess wonwooo bless us with your visuals

[@heleinaalejandre7831]

that jeonghan part SO ICONIC

[@Diona_not_fake]

Seventeen: Were gonna EAT this MAMA! Wonwoo:NOM NOM NOM *eats flower* Seventeen: u-uhh you were h-hungry w-weren’t you?

[@s.e.serella3531]

At least he didn't chew his members lol.

[@sassysassy9950]

Hahahaha

[@elinorbrunner4669]

Whenever you see Junhui and Minghao alone together on stage, you know you better brace yourself.

[@winterflower8792]

Omgggg yesss

[@iamliterally]

i'm an army and a newer carat but fear definitely deserved the win and was prob the best performance of the night

[@waypiel6463]

This is really the best performance on Mama 2019, sadly they didn't get the award they deserve.

[@reomikages]

Wonwoo eating the rose though-- like the "crispy" sound it made

[@arrameow2432]

i think that rose from candy

[@AS-rg5wc]

Ikr😂

[@Butterball2829]

hoshi is such an underrated dancer, scratch that everyone in the performance unit are so underrated as the best dancers of the 3rd gen

[@arin1533]

Maybe not, He and Performance team being praised by another choreographer and another idol for their dance performance. Don't forget Hoshi was invited to be a guest judge for dance show. Minghao being a couch for Chinese idol show, Jun with his performance at (sorry forget the show name that he attended with Hao and Samuel) and last our baby Dino actually really caught many people intention for his dancelogy. So, yep Seventeen wasn't underrated dancer ✌

[@elinorbrunner4669]

For real. No one else is doing it like him. No one else is doing it like Seventeen.

[@LHCNYZ]

well desrved.. they won best dance performance this year and this stage will always memorable

[@kay.1909]

they deserve to win the award for best dance performance, they’ve proved once and once again that they’re some of the best dancers of kpop but yet again won’t receive an award for it.

[@Little-crazy-]

I’m so done with this I thought for sure seventeen was gonna win best Performance because they have one of the best and hardest choreography but then again it is all about the votes.(I don’t know I’m just guessing)Whoever got the award congratulations seeing as I’m a Multifan Edit: I didn’t say this to cause a problem yes I am an army and we all have our opinions. In no way shape or form am I hating on Bts or saying they didn’t deserve. It’s just my opinion. Depending on what song choreography’s were chosen opinions may vary. I’m not and will never disregard Bts. They deserve everything and yes I know they’ve worked hard. It’s not about how it was in the beginning. I’m talking about one award one choreography there was no need for a whole Argument. Pls get along we can all have opinions pls respect that and each other.

[@ericanonuevo]

kpop_life once you woozi in you cant woozi out Votes are only 20% MAMA is known for this, doing favor to a more popular group than the one who is deserving.

[@betitimas4725]

I am with you - I am a fan of music - especially kpop - but considering who and what performance they were against they definitely should have won - if the votes were 1:1 I bet they would have won -

[@Yawwnzzzzn]

I fully think seventeen deserved that award for sure. Nothing can touch their choreography, but sadly mama is all about number of votes and not about who deserves it or not. 😔😔

[@edeary]

Who won?

[@rajaiqa1312]

@@edeary BTS

[@joanmarie7598]

Me: mesmerized Jeonghan, out of nowhere: Saranghae

[@natasya0617]

IKR!!!

[@chocipudding]

i literally toss and turn in my sleep 5 years later because of this i cant believe they didnt win id literally sell all my organs and my kidneys

[@sevenPlusteenEqualsSEVENTEEN]

Looking back at this best day ever it even was on my birthday 😊

[@leejihoon5739]

Me: *eats different kinds of meat infront of friend* Friend: you should eat mor vegetables Me : 1:03 Friend: thats not what-- never mind..

[@leejihoon5739]

Miraiku The Goddess take a sip on my secret potion

[@leejihoon5739]

Ill turn you into a rose but not the one wonwoo eats *dramstic music harsh reality*

[@esterpatricio9952]

KKKKKKKKKKKKKK

[@leejihoon5739]

Miraiku The Goddess oh wow *le gasp*

[@buttersand2105]

They are the best performance group “SEVENTEEN” we know that

[@daisyasacarato2787]

Nanako Ishii I still don’t understand how they didn’t win Best Performance award this year. They are, the best dancers.

[@kenixlawkx]

@@daisyasacarato2787 because obviously mama believes popularity beats talent

[@joynataliasidabutar4565]

@@kenixlawkx hahahaha that's right lol

[@lovelyqueen8620]

seventeen's only brain cell 😪😥

[@howellzabala4624]

And yet we only have 880k views til now😥😭

[@jermissmishania160]

After watching this live I stopped denying that Wonwoo has become my bias hahahah everyone was so cool on stage I think I lost my voice screaming for them that night. Came here because it’s been a year since!!

[@sydneyrodney5504]

MAMA NEEDS TO PUT RESPECT ON THEIR NAME....popularity shouldn't determine every award

[@matanozathezzamae7927]

Our Soonyoung shouted, "S.Coups! Saranghae!" When they received an award. And trust me I didn't cry.

[@ricasolennejmg6588]

Where is S.Coups? Im sorry Im a new Carat

[@aldorariyani8897]

no. you must be cried. i know.

[@ashleyreyes2801]

Rica Olin Gultom our leader-nim has anxiety, we all hope he will get well soon :(( we really miss him🥺

[@khairunira9353]

Does seventeen win any awards? I didn't watch this live so I didn't know.

[@sol-nr4iu]

@@khairunira9353 I'm not sure but they did win a daesang

[@konfuzzzled]

this is the only reason to watch mama 2019

[@dhitasepriliyah208]

Yeaahhh i stan u

[@za_sr4874]

Yaaassss me too.......

[@0526Lj]

Same

[@nuest137]

Don't even watch mama, only watch their videos

[@Jane-dy9le]

I only watch SEVENTEEN's compilation videos on mama.aside from them i dont have any more reasons to watch that ridiculous show.

[@mingyuhatdog4230]

This the group who didn't win the "Best Performance" award in that year. Just keep in mind that.

[@deardeer214]

IT WAS LIVE? And they didn't get best performance? How? I wish people could stop sleeping on their talent. That year I'm not a carat yet, even as an army I've to say svt deserve that award

[@deboramanurung3588]

I confused how they only get 1 award. Especially best dance performance

[@gatonegroasustao276]

What award they win?

[@caratnevies]

@@gatonegroasustao276 Worldwide Fans Choice

[@withlove1237]

I think they won two awards?

[@caratnevies]

@@withlove1237 yes, just now. Breakthrough Archievement

[@a.chloriz1788]

oh it's still ongoing no wonder I tried to search "seventeen mama 2019" and I was dissapointed w the results lol

[@jangmiz]

I choked at the moment when Wonwoo bit the flower I--- 😭😵

[@miyane447]

Not even a seventeen stan but even as an ARMY i am STILL bitter because seventeen deserves so much better. Imo theyre the best dancing male kpop group & so in sync. Mama is a snake. I know fans vote but it should be real judges deciding cause if one has bigger fans will win & not more talent

[@nikkinikki2137]

STILL PISSED BECAUSE SVT DIDN'T WIN THE BEST DANCE AWARD. LIKE SERIOUSLY??? YOU COULD REALLY SEE THAT SVT TRULY DESERVE TO WIN THAT AWARD. THEIR CHOREOGRAPHIES WERE JAW DROPPING. THE COMLEXITY AS ITS FINEST. ARGHHH