2019 Toyota Proace Review - In-Depth Roadtest | Vanarama.com

[@tomdaloon]

I went from a Hilux invincible to this exact spec of Proace about 6 months ago and I love it. Very comfy and good on the road. Has lots of driver aids that wasn’t even mentioned in this video (keyless entry, adaptive cruise control, tyre pressure sensors to name a few) and is a very nice place to be for a long drive. Auto box makes it very easy to drive and HUD is surprisingly useful. So far so good! Oh, and flappy paddles is good for engine braking down a hill and keeping in a gear when towing. Only negative is the mount for the gear wheel thing sticks out a bit far into the leg area of a middle passenger making long journeys pretty uncomfortable.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Absolutely, it's packed with kit - the HUD is a personal favourite feature. Yep... the gear stick mount... it's the same on all the Groupe PSA vans - the person in the middle has room for only one leg.

[@ash4pm]

The Toyota appears to be the most expensive option available on this platform but you get what you pay for. I went for the two litre diesel Expert Pro because it edged the fuel economy figures. The excellent Peugeot diesel consistently manages well over 50mpg on motorways and still in the high forties around town. It provides all the power you need below 2000rpm, producing maximum torque at 1750rpm, so that probably explains it.

[@stateofblitz]

6:42 "ooooh lovely black felt" 😆 That's an Alan Partridge quote if ever I heard one.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Isn't it just? I like to try and slip one into each review!

[@hennagal7360]

😂👍🏻

[@lorrainemcnaueal4538]

Please? When you review a vehicle, could you consider the power train? Speaking about cosmetic items is not a review which has merit! A steering wheel is a steering wheel, an engine, a transmission, the drive line, the mpg, are a very important part of why I would consider any vehicle!!!

[@yvesluyens5427]

What a lovely weather 😍

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: It really was. What a day!

[@alextoft9199]

I'm not sure I agree. My landlord and friend are builders! I have driven the Proace and the Dispatch albeit briefly. I do see what you mean about the luxury of the Toyota. In terms of drive though, very much a PSA product. High clutch bitting point, vague steering and turbo lag than POWER like any HDI engine! They are nice vans though whatever the badge. Quiet, smooth and comfortable to travel in or drive. Its impressive 👍😊

[@AGordonAKAGDON]

As a tradesman watching this review it would be useful to know what vans are like in terms of build quality and security

[@liamjpbrady]

I’ll be buying the Proace fully electric!! Fossil fuelled engines’ years are numbered. I’ll then be converting the electric van to a camper 🚐!! Can’t wait!!

[@midashaymaker8308]

That’s why you should by fossil fuel while you can

[@eastcorkcheeses6448]

I know people love body coloured bumpers and body coloured mirrors , But to be honest I'd rather keep them black. Its a van ,they're gonna get knocked ,banged and scratched ...

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: It's a common point of view. I'm a big fan of how body-coloured panels make the van look, but they're a vulnerable spot on the van for damage.

[@crpth1]

The reality is that all those bits and trim details, are all fine and dandy. BUT the typical fleet owner will count their pennies and trow the options to the bin! Pure and simple. ;-) Not a single one of those details makes for better, faster or cheaper deliveries! But they do add a pretty sum by the end of the day. By simply adding cost where usually cost is not desired. Example: Your typical fine looking alloy wheel, looks better indeed. But it's way pricier, repairs are a "bitch", it's heavier than it's steel counterpart, don't provide better economy or safety, etc. So you're paying for the looks and ABSOLUTELY nothing else! With this said, options are just fine, but having the "choice" of your options its the real advantage. ;-)

[@anonimatu]

I have a Peugeot Expert. 1.6. 2019. It's look the same. After 1 year it's go out from the production line, it,s full of rust? Why? 😂😂😂😂😥

[@wonderingthoughts926]

Is there any benefit in one of these vans over the other? When it really matters over owning it for say 5 years, would I really notice a difference between the dispatch, expert, etc?

[@blackbutmild1]

When is it coming to the US?

[@hennagal7360]

Great looking van - just a bit anxious about leg safety for the centre passenger against that gear box housing

[@mingxuanfan]

This is gonna be a huge success in the US.

[@frederickmoller]

Is it coming?

[@user-yg4ov6pv5h]

Citroen are probably more established as a commercial manufacturer than Toyota, better after sales service and better price, I think the PSA group will have the edge! :) Good review 👍

[@cychee8779]

PCA group failed to develop Gearbox, that is why Aisin set up a factory in France 🇫🇷 provided Gearbox to PCA, same problem with petrol power train, now PCA almost all version vehicles paired with BMW 1.6 turbo + Aisin 6AT as their failure on self R&D, PCA is only a designer company that without proper automotive engineering

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Thanks for the view, M, and glad you enjoyed the video. PSA Group account for nearly 40% of the choice of vehicles available to van drivers in the UK... they're in a really strong position.

[@shaungilmartin1505]

As a long established commercial user 100k per year I can tell you if you are into serious use then get a manfacturer that has service ties with truck service outlets...they are usually 24/7 operations. Renault,Merc and Man are 3 that spring to mind. Dealing through car showrooms with a van salesman attatched will give you blood pressure problems

[@MrMijnaccount1]

@@shaungilmartin1505 I would add Iveco. They don't even have a non-commercial vehicle

[@golerosetak]

Hello would you comment on Toyota proace verso 7 seater with 1.2L 3 cilinder petrol engine, is that reliable like other Toyota models,? It looks like funny for car at that size and that weight ?

[@daveevans2261]

Lovely van thanks for showing us.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@duncanicook]

The reason the Proace feels different is the two tone 17" alloys come with different, softer Agilis tyres.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: absolutely agree... it's all about the alloys!

[@duncanicook]

@@vanaramauk No it's all about different tyres.

[@vanaramauk]

@@duncanicook Tom here: The size of the alloys dictate the size of the tyres, dictates the size and type of tyres. I don't disagree with you.

[@sworks365]

Great reviews Tom. Decided to get one it’s just which manufacturer. Did you drive the PSA vans at night. How good are the headlights? Testers never seem to mention this? I prefer the Toyota with the Citroen the least attractive front end but Citroen are the only one to have the option of Xenon projector lights which should be much better. Would like to know how good the standard lights are though if you had chance to use them? Thanks

[@anopraca]

Great video Doug de Muro style 10/10 💪

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: I'm definitely taking that as a compliment. Thanks for your support, glad you enjoyed the review.

[@bunkaaa8726]

@@vanaramauk If you don't mention 'Quirks and Features' in the next review I'll be very disappointed :)

[@davidluck8851]

Love driving vans - but If I could I would love to buy and drive this van auto gearbox too

[@gerald4nomads]

When is this van coming to the USA 🇺🇸?

[@patrickmaughan2263]

When is the hiace coming bk to Ireland

[@roadwarrior8560]

@@patrickmaughan2263 tinkers will snap them up

[@epiphgd4302]

Is that leather?

[@mattwarren69]

is there just this one length option on the proace? or can u get a longer wheelbase ?

[@timtim4603]

They do longer wheel base & hi top as well

[@Passengerdwa]

Is the engine Toyota?

[@danharrison9628]

Does anyone know how you connect to Apple CarPlay in the proace, I can’t seem to figure out how to connect mine

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Depending on the trim level you have, it should be easy to connect your phone by cable or Bluetooth.

[@activdogs_dorset]

While it will connect to an iPhone via bluetooth it doesn't have Apple Carplay. It uses Mirror Link to connect to Android but it's very clunky

[@brynmorgan9294]

Great video review, really enjoyed it! Please can you review the new Toyota Proace City review?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: As soon as we can get our hands on one... I'm badgering Toyota. Thanks for your support.

[@RaphaelTheSirion]

Can you get an 8x4 sheet in it on edge?

[@atommachine]

At a angle maybe 5 sheets. On the flat no obstruction maybe 20

[@Floof_Factory]

Whats the difference between the hiace and the proace?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: The Proace is the new Hiace. It's Toyota's medium panel van.

[@philipwest6331]

My only gripe - I have one of these vans on order - is that Toyota has discontinued this lovely red colour - you can now (late 2020) only get the van in boring black, white, silver or grey: a complete lack of imagination by Toyota’s management.....

[@abu.bugatti]

Why don't they sell this beauty in Australia FFS get your act together Aussies

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: I reckon they'd go down a treat Down Under.

[@hypervlogz9507]

Lol, spent two months in Australia and fell in love with the hiace (old boxy model) and wish they were here. The new hiace gets a v6 petrol so stop complaining.

[@stateofblitz]

Hep. It's damn nice. Looks much better than any of the Hiace's. Especially the new one which looks hideous.

[@vanaramauk]

@@stateofblitz Tom here: Why do you think it's hideous?

[@stateofblitz]

@@vanaramauk Hi Tom 👍, to me the design just lacks cohesion and looks "bitsy". Especially the black bumper version. The wheels look too small for the body size too. Sometimes I think Toyota and Lexus just add bits on to the external design of the car just to look different. It just ends up looking awkward and distasteful. I quite like the previous Hiace though that's here in Australia and am looking at purchasing one sooner or later. I like everything about the Proace Verso.

[@PSVitaFan]

They should bring this to America

[@SportFlow]

What about the VW Transporter / Caravelle compared to the Proace? DSG automatic gearbox vs 8-speed ? Any thoughts? thanks.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: DSG all the way! It's just the best gearbox I've ever driven with.

[@dufonrafal]

Vanarama I don’t like the DSG at low speed, and the Aisin 8-speed torque converter will not cost you a cent down the road, the DSG on the other end…

[@vanaramauk]

@@dufonrafal Tom here: I know what you mean - used to drive an Audi TT Mk1 - the DSG failed and the replacement costs were eye watering!

[@dufonrafal]

@@vanaramauk That's exactly what I mean. For a work van, a torque converter is a better solution overall.

[@vanaramauk]

@@dufonrafal Tom here: You're probably right... but the DSG is so much fun to drive.

[@hopelandbogle6088]

Is this van in Jamaica

[@Wastelander13]

Great review! Very interesting van! Did TOYOTA actually helped to develope it or did they just take it from Peugeot/ Citroen and changed the look a bit? That would be interesting to know!

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: I think it was a bit of both, some of Toyota saying "we want this to look different" and PSA Group saying "here's the box of bits, go nuts". Thanks for your support too!

[@rabbitskinner]

The old Hiace was worth 10 of them

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: I think the Hiace was a great van too, but this is a modern van for the modern user.

[@rabbitskinner]

@@vanaramauk but its not a true Toyota, Toyota buyers buy Toyota for a reason

[@shaungilmartin1505]

@@rabbitskinner might as well buy a Citroen or a Vauxhall and have done. These aren't real Toyotas

[@rabbitskinner]

@@shaungilmartin1505 I'm in Oz mate turns out we get a v6 Toyota petrol or a 2.8 Hilux diesel engine

[@roadwarrior8560]

Can't decide between Proace,Transporter or Transit.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Perhaps I can help. What is it you like about those three that's making it tough to decide?

[@frankyduschek3366]

Me too. I have serious doubts. I want a van without issues

[@Neil-Aspinall]

What is the power like compared to the 96 KW Transit, are these turbo's?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: This model of the Proace is more powerful than the Transit Custom we reviewed here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaa5aKKVgZ2Fm80 ... It's hard to choose which one I'd go for, the interior of the Custom is better, but the Proace was a slightly (very slightly) better drive! This Proace was not a turbo and I don't think there is one in the range, and I'm not entirely sure it would benefit from having one.

[@patrickmoughan1378]

To be honest with you pal I had one and they are rubbish Let me down when. It was only two months old And they say it’s like the high ACE but it’s not

[@vanaramauk]

@@patrickmoughan1378 Tom here: Oh yeah, the new Proace is very much its own van... as much as a PSA Group platform sharer can be its own van. Shame your experience with them wasn't great.

[@dufonrafal]

Vanarama of course it has a turbo… all modern Diesel engine have a turbo.

[@crpth1]

​@@vanaramauk - "...Proace was not a turbo and I don't think there is one in the range..." For goodness sake, what a bunch of bullocks!! There's not a single diesel in the range without turbo! In fact the last time PSA build a diesel, without turbo, was DECADES ago! Unbelievable!

[@ramadhiantoagung5086]

I really hope this van will make it to Indonesia, but seeing that Toyota has Innova and in lower price, granmax from Daihatsu( Toyota and Daihatsu is managed by Astra in Indonesia), i doubt it will

[@antoniacan9731]

Are they gonna sell this in USA?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: I'm not sure - let me ask Toyota for you.

[@metalmeister1976]

@@vanaramauk Thank you! I want a Proace SO bad, but I live in the USA. Toyota needs to bring Proace to the USA, I would buy one in a instant!

[@christopherhawthorne7457]

Does the other vans have that pop up on the dash ?

[@vanaramauk]

Hi Christopher. Nope, not in any of the Vivaros, Dispatches or Partners we've seen... it appears to be a Toyota exclusive.

[@duncanicook]

@@vanaramauk YES, the vivaro and Expert do

[@vanaramauk]

@@duncanicook Tom here: You're right, at the super-high trim levels.

[@duncanicook]

@@vanaramauk which are still cheaper than as proace

[@crpth1]

@@vanaramauk - All options are AVAILABLE trough out the range. Point being that Toyota sets some of them as standard features. Peugeot/Citroen sell them as optional. Case is even then the Peugeot/Citroen is cheaper than the Toyota, with same features!! Posh is the word! They usually try to place themselves apart. In reality people buy the "image" and pay for it... dearly! ;-) When you mention "exclusive" please have in mind these van's. Like so many other partnerships, ex: immediately comes to mind the triplets Peugeot 107, Citroen C1 and Toyota Aygo. Are all build on the same factories, same productions line and by the same worker!! The only difference is the bar code that tells the worker to assemble this logo, instead of the other. "Exclusive" is not a word to use lightly in these cases. Which makes things rather funny, when they say Toyota is "much better" than... LOL 😂

[@Minuz1]

looks like a Aygo got a lifted up from the ground

[@Minuz1]

Maybe contain a extra segments on the end that highlight features that don't come down to your personal opinion, like the trim, these are economical/comfort vehicles. If it doesn't fit in either of those categories, it's an extra that 99% of us won't ever get unless we buy ourselves one of those. One thing that I've seen missing is noise insulation, that's one comfort that is left out of most of the reviews, wish you'd include it. One more point I'd like to point out that alloy wheels do improve milage of the cars and reduce break and suspension wear of course with the caveat of them being more expensive and can be dented if improperly handled.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Some sound feedback, Magnus. Appreciate it.

[@greensandbeansgaming1358]

To bad you cant get into the cargo area from the cab. A lot of people buy these to travel in or now a days live in.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Yeah, it's always nice when you have a load through. If I were in charge of all LCV production I'd standardise it.

[@greensandbeansgaming1358]

@@vanaramauk Wonder if it would mess the structure strength up any by cutting a passage way in.

[@vanaramauk]

@@greensandbeansgaming1358 Tom here: From a mechanical point of view - it's only the bulkhead so shouldn't cause too much problem. Although, if you're leasing a vehicle I wouldn't do it DIY.

[@dufonrafal]

You can have two seats with no divider.

[@greensandbeansgaming1358]

They should make the passenger seat removable with a slide door behind it.

[@TheologyUnleashed]

Why doesn't this van exist in New Zealand?

[@honda900000]

You can buy the Peugeot Expert in New Zealand. Its the same car.

[@TheologyUnleashed]

@@honda900000 I didn't know Toyota and Peugeot shared vans. I thought Toyota was independent.

[@jamesheath52]

I've been self-employed plasterer for 25 year I've had 2 Toyota hiaces that's how good they are .this van is not a Toyota it's a French built bag of shit .I buy Toyota vehicles cos of the build quality so iam currently on the look out for a 2011 hiace with about 100000 mile's on it that will last me 8 to 10 year easily with no trouble at all

[@duncanicook]

You seem to be on a back hander from Toyota or Vanarama makes more money on selling/leasing them?!?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Nope. The Proace deserves the praise.

[@teaforthree1]

I take it it’s a Peugeot engine?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: It's the Groupe PSA engine.

[@dgbservices6049]

Vanarama .....so Peugeot then...

[@vanaramauk]

@@dgbservices6049 Tom here: You'll find it in all of them, from Vauxhall to Peugeot.

[@ronpalmer1371]

So can you say who manufactures the engine please

[@ragazzi25]

Why oh why isn't this van for sale in the U.S???? he would sell like hot cakes...

[@Iceeeen]

Cause it's shit. The hole body is weak as fuck with cracking windows as result. Just opening the door will flex the chassi where hinges are. The anoying energy saving turns off interrior lights, radio and so on after just 5 minutes. It's cramped as fuck, only way with the seat is all the way back to fit a normal size person. The heater blows way to far up on the window resulting in the wipers never melt in the winter and will pack a bog icecake where they rest. Meaning you have to go out every half hour on a snowy day in the city and try to get it removed. The car is fitted with roll back crap that doesn't work and can't be turned of. Shortly it's the worst Van I ever driven. I rather get a 30 year old rustbuckwt than this shit that atleast let me drive it and use it like a van.

[@Wastelander13]

Iceeeen Hahahaha, you sound like an old washerwoman! 🤣🤣🤣

[@paulvaughan907]

What colour is this van

[@robvanduren761]

RED

[@azijadn]

This van is looking better than TOYOTA cars. Why TOYOTA does't use this infotainment system in their cars?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: I agree, it's a great van. It's because the van's infotainment system comes from PSA Group, not Toyota.

[@azijadn]

@@vanaramauk Thanx for replying Tom” , That’s why I said because Japanese car manufacturers have the worst infotainment systems fitted in their cars e.g: Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, Honda, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Daihatsu, Isuzu, Suzuki, and the worst of all LEXUS because it’s a luxury brand, Each and every single brand competes with each other who fits the crappiest system in their cars.

[@mirandarightsallrightsrese8327]

I love it.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Yep, gotta love the Proace.

[@Iceeeen]

Worst shit ever produced in the last 30 years, 15 of these nightmares at work. The anoying energy saving turning off the interior lights after 5 minutes. The stupid heater blows air way to high up on the screen and makes a fucking a ice cake everytime it snows. The anoying roll back that can't be turned of and won't release the brakes when you want tomdrive away. The chassi is weak as fuck with cracking windscreen as result. The front axel needs to be moved forward and rearaxel backwards, as now with load its impossible to get any real weight over the front axel even if you load it directly behind the seat. It also makes it hopeless with a trailer on the hitch Oyeah, on of that every single one has already started to rust

[@crpth1]

At least two of those complains, interior light and roll back feature can be set electronically. Talk to your dealer... it's part of configurable features. In fact all modern vehicles have a bunch of options to turn on/off accordingly. This one is no different.

[@johnfretten3274]

You told us nothing about the performance (power output) is it front wheel drive or rear wheel, is it available in LWB. Can you get a tail gate or just barn doors?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: I try to keep the reviews as accessible as possible, more of an overview of the vehicle as is. The Proace itself is FWD with 2 lengths to choose from (SWB, LWB). Engine choice is of either two 1.5-litre motors providing 100hp / 270Nm or 120hp / 300Nm and two 2.0-litre engines producing 120hp / 340Nm or 180hp / 400Nm. Barn doors as standard. I'll look at a way at adding this extra touch in the under-video copy.

[@duncanicook]

I've just ordered two Peugeot Expert ashphalt 180's and apart from the mame badges and the front 18 inches it has everything and more than this proace. AND it was cheaper. I think Toyota (let's remember how long the last Hiace was in production 1996-2013/14) did not want to spend the money on creating a new van,. OOO, Hello Mr psa, can we have a go too!!

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: I think you'd be surprised how much platform sharing costs (admittedly nowhere near as much as it does to develop a van platform). But when you consider how many vans are on shared platforms, it's actually a very common practice.

[@cooleyballs1]

Ya ..but its a peugeot..itll break.

[@crpth1]

@@cooleyballs1 - It's kind of funny reading ignorant comments like that... Recall the triplets Peugeot 107, Citroen C1, Toyota Aygo? Most problems from the first generations where from the... Toyota part of the deal!! What about that? LOL 😂 Let's see, clutch, alternator... Things like brakes or rear suspension, etc. are never heard of. Curiously, look to the big brother, of a similar generation, Peugeot 307 identical suspension. Pretty much, yes!

[@rayc1503]

Please avoid this van it's plagued with problems. Thank god for the warrenty less then 23k and major leaks developed around the engine turbo failure. The engine was replaced and we're still having problems. Our 2 vw crafters have been spot on.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Sorry to hear you've had trouble with this van. Glad the Crafters are working out for you though - great van that.

[@rabbitskinner]

French cr@p I rest my case, VW for me or Hyundai from now on. The old Hiace models were unbelievably reliable...

[@stephenwilliams7056]

What engine buddy?

[@dunneryak]

i love mine!

[@timtim4603]

I’m buying Vauxhall as Toyota won’t give configuration I want and Toyota way too expensive, I’ve always been Toyota fan but it would cost me £8/10,000 more to get 6 Seats so went for vivaro sportive which has good trim levels and lots extra tech otherwise very similar

[@sarmasanadrian4902]

So many people have problems with this fake Toyota witch is acctualy a Peugeot

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: That's the crux of platform sharing. I'm a big fan of the new Proace, however, I think it's one of the best medium vans out there.

[@raftika1]

This looks like it would be perfect for the work I do. I’m sad Toyota doesn’t offer this in America

[@zoOolingham]

I have one like this toyota gays this van not good at all allways Automatic braking system faulty and Engnlihgt one for no reason I go to Toyota dealer they don't know how to fix because this Van mix toyota puget . I don't recommend this van for anyone.i have this problems i really don't know what can I just keep lothen money all the time .please gays don't even think about it don't makes me stake like me .I wish everyone have like this van be honest and said

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Sad to hear you've had trouble with the van, never nice to hear. What van are you thinking of upgrading to?

[@mbingham10]

Paddles in a van, they are about has useful has a tit on a trouts back. How does that cheap bit of rotating plastic vaguely resemble a mobile office , the transit knocks spots off it, although the Transit dash needs covers to stop nasty reflections, mpg is impressive though much better than the Transit 2.0 Auto which real world is 32.4

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: I agree with your comments about paddles - although they work well in the Proace. I like the "mobile office", gives me somewhere to rest my notepad while I'm writing the Top 5s. I also agree that the Transit is really good - it's a bit of a benchmark van.

[@medi768]

when you use meter, please use the wise unit of fuel comsumption (liter/100 km). When British and Americans can learn wisdom and logic?

[@johnroddy8756]

I have no interest on complicated frills obliterating to go faulty .keep it simple.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Fair enough!

[@rabbitskinner]

That's not a Toyota its a shitty old rebadged Citroen

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: It's not old - this is the latest EMP2 platform van from PSA Group shared by the Citroen Dispatch, Vauxhall Vivaro, Peugeot Expert & Toyota Proace. They've all been updated with the latest Euro 6.2 1.5-litre diesel engines too. They're about as close to cutting-edge as they can be.

[@rabbitskinner]

@@vanaramauk Citroen for several years running were voted the UKs worst car manufacturer along with Renault. Toyota drivers want Toyota not a rebadged Citroen

[@shaungilmartin1505]

lots of vans now are the same cheap delicate rubbish with different badges on. few stand up to the test of time and work or the green restrictions imposed upon diesels.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: You think their days are numbered?

[@shaungilmartin1505]

@@vanaramauk in my business we expected vans to last 300k plus. Alot of these modern things seem to be throwing major tantrums @ the 150k mark

[@simonlloyd7557]

Toyota is no longer Toyota...Now they are Subaru, or BMW or Vauxhall.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: And when it comes to LCV they're all PSA Group!

[@jeffngo79]

That type of van is not even in the United States

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Which is a shame because it's really good. Great interior, great prices, great loading bay.

[@3261carl]

Your lucky it’s rubbish, I had one for a year and sold it. Suspension was soft loaded up like on overloaded estate car, the doors creak under body flex when it drops off a curb. After 40k miles my mechanic called it the Toyota Prolapse the engine shit itself on numerous seals. Build quality was tragic not sure how this reviewer thought it was good.

[@vanaramauk]

@@3261carl Tom here: Because the model I reviewed was really good. I hate hearing people have had bad experiences with vans, just like I am now.

[@3261carl]

Vanarama I completely understand you only went out in the van for a small drive, initially I was happy maybe just blinded by all the tech the van had to offer.

[@vanaramauk]

@@3261carl Tom here: It happens, still, I'd rather be driving one of these with all the tech than one without. :)

[@basictechnology2599]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5a6fnh7lJ2LncU caplay un toyota proace

[@teaforthree1]

Was that a review or an advert Toyota but not a Toyota engine I guess Auto: is it torque converter or DSG? About the worst review I’ve ever seen.

[@bmwdaywhatyouwant7679]

I'm not a fan of the new PSA group chassis for these vans. The design is ugly in my opinion. Too curvy and looks like a box on wheels. I loved the previous generation! The German duo, Mercedes and VW, are too pricey, and VW has become generic. I like the Renault Trafic and Nissan NV400. Cheap, good looking, and great value for money! Ford... horrible, in Belgium and rest of Europe, they're bad, I hate Fords. but I see in the UK and Ireland they're going strong.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Having seen and reviewed them all now (the medium vans) I quite like them - they feel like a home from home. But I totally understand your point of view.

[@bmwdaywhatyouwant7679]

@@vanaramauk Oh for sure! PSA Peugeot Citroen build great vans that make you feel cosy! I'm sure it's got the driving pleasure! It's just the exterior design really, but it's fine XD

[@vanaramauk]

@@bmwdaywhatyouwant7679 Tom here: Haha, I get it. I do understand... our video editor prefers the Vauxhall exteriors.

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@@vanaramauk Here's the specialty about the PSA group cars and vans in general, driving agility and style! I had a Peugeot 807 back in the days and it was exactly like how you described these vans! :D

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@@bmwdaywhatyouwant7679 Tom here: Nice! Glad I hit the nail on the head there. Thanks.