It's hard to watch,lack of trainning,lack of leadership,lack of everything! Nice catch ! Thanks for posting!
@PreservationEnthusiast3 жыл бұрын
What they did wrong here was not putting water in between the houses quick enough to stop the other house burning.
@1961fireguy5 жыл бұрын
Over 2 minutes to get water out of the pumper is not acceptable. I think some training is needed. Volunteer or career firefighter makes no difference, learn your equipment and improve your deployment of water on arrival. Water should be applied within one minute no matter what the circumstances. It is an emergency act like it.
@barryc2613 жыл бұрын
I think it's more than just a training issue. From watching the operator look around then put on his glasses after they're yelling "Yellow speedlay!", it's clear that it's also a work ethic and performance expectation issue, too. From what I've been able to gather the last I checked, this seems to be more of an issue in Pennsylvania than most states, due to a lack of state mandated training and oversight. The state does offer training, but mostly leaves the decision on training and procedures to the fire department, itself. It's possible that things could be changing. But, at least then, they could just be like, "So, you want to be a fireman?" "Yep." "Ok, here's your helmet, turnout gear, and pager. Congratulations, you're now a fireman! See you at the next call."
@harleybill40923 жыл бұрын
Clover Hose NEEDS to do a better job of TRAINING their pump operators!!! If you can't pump it, you shouldn't drive it!!
@station0795 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but this looks like the Keystone Cops in action. White Hats wandering around aimlessly, old guys that can't figure out how to get water out of their Engine. I'd be embarrassed if this was my Department. Good on them for showing how it shouldn't be done, I guess.
@ilmariilonen72575 жыл бұрын
I am sorry to say, I agree. Sad to see.
@marcbach58805 жыл бұрын
Years ago if you performed this badly you would be forced out of the department. It's not rocket science!
@justinfinn68503 жыл бұрын
My man working the pump panel had NO IDEA what he was doing
@tomevans54585 жыл бұрын
Difficult video to watch from a firefighting perspective. Googled Mount Carmel PA and found that the Green Engine 3 represents "Clover Hose Company." They are volunteer firefighters. I'm not familiar with this area, but it appears that there are several departments on this fire scene. Many/most are probably volunteer. I don't want to denigrate volunteer fire departments here because the volunteer firefighter has served our nation for centuries, but it's evident that there is a real lack of training from the performance on this fire.
@kyfiredawg5 жыл бұрын
Quite obvious that the guy in the beginning of this vid had no idea how to pump the truck!
@ek60633 жыл бұрын
Equally as obvious, you don’t know the difference between an engine and a truck. ;-)
@lamontswepson27803 жыл бұрын
I remember being o n traffic duty at a fire on Park ave. In Newark, watching an aerial truck in action being careful of the hot wires...Amazing the job they do...
@MrScottie684 жыл бұрын
I still can’t understand how towns ever allowed wood frame houses to be built so close together. Fire threat has existed for centuries so the fact that these are older homes is irrelevant. The lot size to build a home should require that at least 25 feet clearance be on each side of a dwelling, especially a wood frame dwelling.
@jamesslick47904 жыл бұрын
1, These houses are over 100 years old. So in fairness, if this was not in a "working class" town, they'd likely have been removed decades ago. 2, Not everyone has the luxury of acreage. Theses look like old "company houses" (built by coal companies to house miners) Mt. Carmel,PA is in "coal country". The idea was to put as many houses as possible on a plot of ground. These ain't Suburban McMansions with lush grounds ffs.
@lkmayhew93903 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys for putting yourselves in harms way to put these fires out. You’re all heroes🥰
@andyoxleyonhistravels5 жыл бұрын
Jesus that was painful to watch. Cannot work out why 3 guys are walking around on a slate tiled pitched roof. Madness.
@Eddiecurrent20005 жыл бұрын
I can't see the point in send three men onto a roof to vent, when they're at greater danger of falling off than the danger the fire is presenting to anyone! Utter madness.
@Totaro175 жыл бұрын
Eddiecurrent2000 then you don’t understand firefighting 101.
@Eddiecurrent20005 жыл бұрын
@@Totaro17 What's the point of risking three fire fighters to vent a structure which is barely in need of it? Just simply bad practice, or just dick waving.
@Totaro175 жыл бұрын
Eddiecurrent2000 because I am sure they are venting for firefighters inside, fighting the fire. That’s the point of venting.
@Totaro175 жыл бұрын
Eddiecurrent2000 how can you say it doesn’t need ventilation. we don’t know the conditions inside that house.
@Eddiecurrent20005 жыл бұрын
@@Totaro17 Then why are there FFs in the house? Are they saving people? If not, then what's the point? An exterior attack would suffice if that was the case, or are FFs lives worth less than the structure? And in any case, it looks pretty good from the outside, but hey, thousands of fire fighters around the world do interior attacks without having their colleagues vent the structure, so what's the point here?
@antiquecatfishing70685 жыл бұрын
It’s easy to critique a video but we all also know as firefighters no matter where we are from, paid dept, or volunteer dept it’s a completely different prospective when live on the scene.
@stevegibson22555 жыл бұрын
One thing I can never EVER understand after watching any videos like this, WHY does the US design fire trucks that don't carry water? In my country it is mandatory for ALL fire brigade trucks to carry water as well as crew
@hihfty5 жыл бұрын
The green truck does carry water. The driver just had no idea how to pump which is a story in itself. In the US the only trucks that may or may not carry water are ladder trucks. Its very common for departments to have a " quint" which has a pump and a small tank. Generally smaller departments will have a quint since the amount of resources are limited and they need that functionality. In metro areas you will be hard pressed to find a " quint" and the vast majority are strictly ladder trucks.
@tomevans54585 жыл бұрын
Steve, I suspect that the green fire engine #3 carries anywhere from 500-750 gallons of water.
@charlesmallo5 жыл бұрын
In Holland every truck carries up to 2,500 litres of water and has 2 what we call high pressure lines directly connected to the pump to get the wet stuff on the red stuff within a minute.This gives the rest of the crew about 15 minutes to set up the external water supply or for a tanker to arrive on the scene. Maybe it's time for US Fire Departments to invest in the more useful smaller European trucks that can handle everything that's thrown at them.
@drob4495 жыл бұрын
In Holland I’m willing to bet you also have to connect your hoses on arrival like most other European trucks. The only trucks that don’t carry water are specialized apparatus that mainly perform duties OTHER THAN fire suppression.
@charlesmallo5 жыл бұрын
The standard truck in Holland and other European countries have 2 pre-connected so called high pressure lines. So no faffing around, real out the lines, fire up the pump and within a minute or so there's wet stuff on the red stuff. In the mean time the rest of the crew sets up the external water supply. Trucks equipped with the heavier rescue equipment (cutters, spreaders) also carry water. Areal platforms and ladders are fed through the pump of a truck.
@tylerivey82485 жыл бұрын
Old man pumping the truck needed to open his tank to pump!!!!! SMH
@jimmysafstrom78785 жыл бұрын
Please give the firefighters proper training All education from fire behavior to operate technical equipment would be neccassary for this departement Basic quality training courses must be implementead in the organization with short and longterms goal in each areas Lack of experience and knowledge is nothing we want in the departments It's dangerous for all, firefighters and citizens
@jessh53103 жыл бұрын
If Monty Python did firefighting........................
@dennisbrill53363 жыл бұрын
No two fires are ever the same, you just gotta deal with it....... (Firefighter) 20 years.
@littleblitz82393 жыл бұрын
Focus on the basics. Engine coming in drops a supply line with a hydrant pack. One FF off and starts connection to hydrant. Engine pulls up to the scene, pulls mor eSL and puts on a hose clamp. Dtarts connection to water port on engine and when he's all done removes the hose clamp and there is water. Oh yea the engineer has to know what he is doing.
@kylebuehlman42075 жыл бұрын
I would never want to do this job I’m so thankful for the strong and brave ones doing this job and saving peoples life’s
@donnadreyer25803 жыл бұрын
I live in an apartment building on the second floor, across the street there's homes and if one of those homes goes up, that entire side of the street will be History, those Homes are very Old, and very close together, I don't know how Old, but.
@mikeshreiner76885 жыл бұрын
Watching this makes me feel better about being retired from the Fire Service. At least they let the neighbors house on the Bravo side catch fire also. The pump operator on the green engine should be made to at least take Pump 1 class or let him just be a Fire Cop.
@spittincobraoverwatch54165 жыл бұрын
It would freak me out if I had to watch my home burn to the ground
@danielletripkoff41995 жыл бұрын
It would freak me out too!!!
@mikedc33 жыл бұрын
First, I'm not a fireman. You would think there is some kind of brotherhood or kinship between firemen. However reading the comments in these fire videos has shown me that there is none. They are brutal to each other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ritirons27263 жыл бұрын
You have to understand that there are two types of people that comment on these firefighting videos: Those that fight fires on a daily basis, both career and volunteers. They are the ones that simply watch the video and move along or offer constructive criticism, and, at times, yes maybe even trash talk, but in a respectful manner. Then you have those that troll fire videos looking to pick apart every possible thing that in THEIR OPINION was completely wrong. They are far more prevalent. Those people like to bash their supposed “brothers” saying they need more training, they have no work effort, they’re too slow, this and that, everything they can possibly find to criticize another department(s) and/or member(s) is fair game. There are a few on here that you will see in every comment section making the same comment(s) on every video they watch. Now I can’t lie, I do have to agree at times with the aptly named “armchair chiefs” because those are all fire service realities. I’ve sat and scratched my head plenty of times wondering what the F@&k are they doing? I also won’t lie, and will admit I have left a not so nice comment here and there also. But as you noticed, at times it gets outright disrespectful to people that have never met and never will, and have never worked together and never will. Even firefighters from other countries get in on the attack. So the brotherhood does exist between the firefighters that truly respect each other and are “in it” for the right reasons. For the rest it looks good on t-shirts and stickers and when it makes them sound good around other firefighters, but behind closed doors or keyboards they only have themselves in mind. And in reality, their departments are more likely not any better than the ones they trash here in these videos. These comment sections are the perfect place for people to profess their fire service expertise and opinions with out the worries of anyone ever finding out who they really are or their true fire service experience.
@williamheber21184 жыл бұрын
What would you expect? It's a Pa department with little to no training required and everyone is a chief.
@paulhammerich92444 жыл бұрын
There seemed to be a lot of confusion and standing around 😕
@jackh5773 жыл бұрын
Painting a whole state is just silly talk.
@dwill58905 жыл бұрын
Wow! That cop took off running 0.07
@DeanINQUISITORYatesnwo4 жыл бұрын
i have watched hundreds of these US firefighting vids now, so i really have to ask this . why does it take them so long to actually put some water on the fires ? they mill around as if they are stood around their coal fire at home, all the other countries firefighters i have watched including here in the UK , the engine pulls up and they have a sense of urgency about them and with in a matter of seconds there is water being doused on to the fire.
@JB917104 жыл бұрын
These are the people who join the American Fire Disservice. It should answer your question. I was a Third Generation Fire Fighter. A Real one. 1. People who don't want to Work for a living. 2. People who want to live off the taxpayers without having to Work for a living and get a pension after they put in their 20. 3. Insecure people who want to be Instant heroes in the eyes of the public Just for Joining Up, Dressing Up and Showing Up. 4. People who couldn't possibly make anything but a fast food wage but of course, they wouldn't have them because they don't want to work. 5. People who care but they are dreamers of Bravery and Heroics and when it comes to work, they have no work ethic at all let alone a strong one. 6. Anyone who can do the job left real quick after they saw who they would be working with. I'm talking about the OFFICERS First and Then the Fire Players. Welcome to the real world of American Fire Playing.
@lindahoff73914 жыл бұрын
A lack of training and a lack of measurable standards for tasks. For instance, our department standard is 1:30 to deploy an 1 3/4" line and flow water once the apparatus arrives. This includes stretching the line and donning of the SCBA.
@lindahoff73914 жыл бұрын
@@JB91710 Yeah right. Any applicant who displays any of the traits you mentioned would not make it to our academy, let alone graduate.
@JB917104 жыл бұрын
@@lindahoff7391 They have you fooled. Who do you think the people are who decide who becomes a firefighter? Plus, how many applicants provide the information I listed? Ever hear the phrase, "Tell them what they want to hear."? Do you know how I know I am right? 50 years supervising humans at that low end of the employment scale. Breaking windows and squirting water? Real challenging. It is for the 95%ers!
@lindahoff73914 жыл бұрын
@@JB91710 I doubt it. I decide who becomes a firefighter at least as part of the hiring process and training. Breaking windows and squirting water. Hmm yes we do that too, along with para-medicine, tech rescue, ARFF, wild land and dive. I f someone is lucky enough to fool their way through the orals boards, psych profile, poly graph and written test, they will never make it through their rookie year. It is a shame that you left the fire service, assuming you were a firefighter, with such a bad taste in your mouth. It most likely will remain.
@kither045 жыл бұрын
Such a shame that that b..... torched these homes. These are hard working people who take pride in their homes. Great job by all departments including pd to find the perpetrators.
@kevinrichards15392 жыл бұрын
Listening to that miss primed pump. Ug.
@tonymarshall8785 жыл бұрын
Hi again sir what a serious fire I truly hope that no one was hurt and managed to get away from this many thanks again to those fantastic fire brigade who put their lives on the line to save others God bless them best regards Tony
@spittincobraoverwatch54165 жыл бұрын
Great video brother
@mca19604 жыл бұрын
Same situation: a lot of dry wood, covered with a lot of paint, need of a match, and the wooden doghomes are history.
@edloeffler97695 жыл бұрын
My opinion: A blitz nozzle/line should never be used to cover an exposure. You need the flexibility to move up and down the entire exposure. Pump operator on Engine 3 obviously had issues. Glad to see someone help him out. I question whether it was necessary to roof vent exposure #2 at that point of the fire. Very little smoke exiting 2nd-floor windows.
@jimmills54795 жыл бұрын
Please don't come to my house.
@dougalexander72045 жыл бұрын
Misty Lynn and Michelle needs swift justice and harsh punishment for their crime. Being burnt is as awful an injury as you can have, as well as, causing someone to lose their sentimental belongings is cruel. Hope they rot in hell for this.
@carrie97814 жыл бұрын
Good ol Misty is already out of jail an living her fabulous drug life!
@martinjeffery35905 жыл бұрын
Plastic cladding on timber houses ,do you have any fire regs concerning building
@williamsimmons1524 жыл бұрын
martin jeffery Yes there are codes. But old houses are not required to be updated.
@jamesslick47904 жыл бұрын
21st century codes are damned hard to apply to 19th century buildings, smh.
@549BR5 жыл бұрын
Some very strange fire fighting going on here.
@waynes47574 жыл бұрын
On u-tube i seen 5 house's burn! 3of5 of them burned down! The last house, could of been saved but it to; burned down too! I don't know what color the fire engine was, maybe it was black?
@JB917104 жыл бұрын
Watch 10 years of these and you'll find that 95% of American fire players have no clue what the JOB is.
@Battalion315 жыл бұрын
Hey chief keep walking around that might help
@JW-rn6qf3 жыл бұрын
After watching some of these Mt Carmel fire videos... I've made up my mind to never move to Mt Carmel
@AlainBaudrez3 жыл бұрын
Are wooden houses allowed in the US ? In Europe you don't see them. It seems to mee that the fire risc is much higher using wood instead of bricks or concrete for houses.
@medic28073 жыл бұрын
The US isn't even 250 years old. They built the best country in the world out of the materials they had access to. As time goes by, more structures are built with fireproof materials. That's why US and European firefighting techniques and equipment are so different.
@williamekeir8915 жыл бұрын
Lack of training and experience when it came to establishing water.
@Battalion315 жыл бұрын
Charge the line TODAY
@JoeJoe4P5 жыл бұрын
Was this Mount Carmel, Illinois??
@marcopstal34645 жыл бұрын
Get yourself a good optician, it's written PA on their trucks.
@jaredfreeman54845 жыл бұрын
who's green fire truck?
@robbiedelgado52165 жыл бұрын
Mt Caramel,North Walnut St aka Clover Hose
@P4hs5 жыл бұрын
BEST COLORING I'VE EVER SEEN!
@charleshughes93964 жыл бұрын
Awesome color green,love it.
@jaredfreeman54844 жыл бұрын
Robbie Delgado thanks
@robbiedelgado52164 жыл бұрын
@@jaredfreeman5484 ,no problem its my favorite house of the Boro besides Strong in Twsp that has a 74 Mack CF
@engineer52134 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice the aerial touching the overhead wire and the firefighters just casually stepping over the wire as they were heading for the roof? worst thing i have ever seen.
@jackh5773 жыл бұрын
obviously was not a power wire.
@engineer52133 жыл бұрын
Unless the utility company is on scene to verify the wires, it is basic firefighter training to avoid them. I have had my own personnel shocked by wires that were thought to be telephone.
@jackh5773 жыл бұрын
@@engineer5213 Agree to disagree. I worked in a busy aggressive mid sized city. We knew the electrical power lines are the highest lines on the pole. The lower lines were cable and phone lines.. In the 150+ years of service, no one in my city has ever touched a hot wire.
@engineer52133 жыл бұрын
I wish they followed they same policy of line placement in the rural areas I worked. It’s amazing the electrical and plumbing work you see in a single wide out in the sticks.
@engineer52133 жыл бұрын
Mad respect for you and your career. Stay safe
@cynthiatucker21473 жыл бұрын
I thought that these were row homes. I see now they were not. The fire was so quick and hot. What was the cause?
@beckytwister013 жыл бұрын
Arson
@judis.18103 жыл бұрын
Read the "drop down" it'll tell you what happened!
@roychivers8134 Жыл бұрын
MICE WITH MATCHES
@marcopstal34645 жыл бұрын
Pure amateurism. And Chief, maybe next time close your turnout !!!!
@i-love-carlyshay53654 жыл бұрын
0:06 i wont blame that police officer i run to if i hear that noise
@charlesrudish91474 жыл бұрын
Looks like that pump operator needs a little more instruction on pump operation. Once again, cities with volunteer departments get what they pay for, IE: a lot of parking lots.
@thefirefighterwaylifefight20304 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing
@tomalascio12764 жыл бұрын
Not all volunteer departments are bad. Get yourself educated !! A lot of states have very little to no training requirements for volunteer fire departments.
@ronbradley56314 жыл бұрын
The majority of volunteer dept. do suck.
@kruzn19344 жыл бұрын
I was LMAO at that engineer. Poor guy was totally confused as to what to do
@henryparks61064 жыл бұрын
All of you who criticised these firefighters are morons. I have a lot of friends who are volunteers. They are dedicated to protecting the public without getting paid. I had 2 friends who made the ultimate sacrifice and left wives and children behind. I bet that you wouldn't have the balls to do what they do.
@nivagsmada28543 жыл бұрын
Aweful
@mrbluesky20505 жыл бұрын
Pugh, Hugh, Barney Mcgrew, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grubb.. Captain Flack would be furious with them, Those old enough in the U.K. will know !.
@cornelfrancis50484 жыл бұрын
In the UK the first thing we do is check to see if anybody is in the building, whilst this is going on other members would be running out hose to the hydrant and towards the fire. UK trucks have high pressure hoses (40 Bar) crews would attack the fire within 30-40 seconds on arrival plus they carry over a 1000 gallons. This is where we differ, crews will have two members on the truck nominated at the beginning of the shift on who is wearing SCBA, the other members will sought out the hose and attack the fire until the guys wearing BA are ready to go in to either fight the fire or search the premises. This saves a lot of time, the quicker you can get water on fire the less damage the fire is causing, it also gives the OIC more time to formulate a plan on tackling the fire, he doesn't have to worry about whose doing what. BA is big thing in the UK, you don't put on a set and wander into the job, its very controlled we know at any time how many Ff are inside the premises, the point is if everyone is putting on BA sets, no one is thinking about the hydrant, ladders and anything else that needs to be done, everyone wants to go in fight the fire no different to an RTA, everybody wants to operate the tools.
@andyoxleyonhistravels4 жыл бұрын
I am glad I am not the only one thinking this. I have commented before on this sort of thing and all I get is excuses from the American guys or they say well this is the way we have always done it.
@williamsimmons1524 жыл бұрын
Every community is different. How much pressure is 40 bar. ?You can maybe control a handline at 120 Pounds NP.
@andyoxleyonhistravels4 жыл бұрын
@@williamsimmons152 Am I right in thinking that most communities have voluntary crews that are perhaps not that well trained and just do the best they can ?
@williamsimmons1524 жыл бұрын
Well Andy, all the larger municipalities are full time departments. I don’t know if the numbers balance out as I’m sure there are more volunteer depts. Generally speaking, I would say they are not as highly trained but that really depends on the community, the leadership and so forth. I know every one in my department was a Paramedic and had a college degree of some kind. Most volunteer departments have people who have to work at another job, so recruiting becomes a problem.
@JB917104 жыл бұрын
1. You lay in the hydrant line and pull the engine with 750 gallons of water in front of the structure. 2. The driver activates the pump. 3. One FFer grabs a pole and Booster line and heads to the fire room windows. 4. They break out the windows and extinguish the fire LONG before an entry team can get dressed and get the front door open. 5. By that time, the hydrant line is flowing and other fire fighters should be venting windows. 6. Then the entry team, led by a nozzleman, go inside to mop up and search for PROTECTED victims. That is Real Fire Fighting. You Protect Everyone First because you can!
@jimkeappock75583 жыл бұрын
That Chief walking around, has no idea what is going on. No direction being given, 1 line on the fire??
@1244043023 жыл бұрын
meeh, that is one of those deal with what is in front of you fires, they did the job fine and got it done
@johngoglia69813 жыл бұрын
1 line you can see, can you see rear of the building
@davef52773 жыл бұрын
What the......
@01denese4 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of power lines going to one house.
@jonwagner14 жыл бұрын
The dark green truck is just dumb from a safety standpoint. Hard to see during the day and impossible to see at night. I wouldn't want to be riding in or on it during a code 3 run....
@Bigbluehawk23 жыл бұрын
There are just too many things wrong with this opertation to list. All I can say is I hope they go back and get some training.
@mindyschocolate4 жыл бұрын
What’s what weird ringing noise every few seconds?
@southernoregoncatmom65192 жыл бұрын
Safety alarms for the firemen.
@timattridge93214 жыл бұрын
Exposures????? Bad job
@cherihill20034 жыл бұрын
Two older homes destroyed by arson. Makes it easy to hate people.
@JasmineLindros3 жыл бұрын
No, it makes it easy to hate arsonists. If you immediately jump to stereotyping "people" then YOU are part of the problem.
@cherihill20033 жыл бұрын
@@JasmineLindros I am not a part of anyone's problem. There are absolutely no people in my life. I dislike humans for many reasons and avoid them like the plague. Comments like YOURS help convince me that I'm right!
@anthonyd.51405 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, great job by FD
@edwardfergusson82463 жыл бұрын
how many firemen are cladding salesmen
@johngoglia69813 жыл бұрын
Ever try to volunteer for the firehouse.. go to 40 hour basic training, another 80 hours advanced firefighting.. 80 hours of heavy rescue, another gas electric firefighting 8 hours., building construction course.. 24 hours.. arson 40 hour courses.. engine company operations 8 hours, 8 hours ladder / truck company operations.. 200 hours of confined space, auto , high angle rescue
@charlesmccoskey13703 жыл бұрын
Sleeveless guy on green engine was green.
@God_Bless_President_Trump3 жыл бұрын
In the meantime back at headquarters
@TrainsOnGoPro5 жыл бұрын
I thought they were gonna talk the fire out.
@lencycler15 жыл бұрын
I love green fire trucks....
@Cashcrop545 жыл бұрын
lencycler1 I usually don’t like them too much but this one is awesome and the hose is color coordinated! 🚒🇺🇸
@jaredfreeman54842 жыл бұрын
me too
@Gracebeliever0775 жыл бұрын
4:10 Is that a power line he is casually stepping over?
@Totaro175 жыл бұрын
Gracebeliever077 no. It’s a cable line
@Gracebeliever0775 жыл бұрын
@@Totaro17 Thanks
@williamsimmons1524 жыл бұрын
Should I read all the comments to “maybe” find out where Mt Carmel is?
@MrBloxy-wz1zb4 жыл бұрын
It's a small town in norththumberland county. Close to centralia and kulpmont
@lehneruwe5531 Жыл бұрын
Moderne Feuerwehr und kein Wasser dabei!
@davidvce50353 жыл бұрын
1:42 backdraft attemp
@Markw84805 жыл бұрын
Cutting a hole in the roof is rarely needed,,, pull the ceiling from the inside and wet it down!!! Doing more damage than needed!!i do this stuff for a living,,,
@Markw84804 жыл бұрын
Liam Love possibly,,i realize i wasnt there but with light smoke showing and guys working on the inside already seems like it would be a quick find and extinguishment,still excessive to cut a hole at that point!
@williamsimmons1524 жыл бұрын
Opening up the roof at 12:00 is a total waste of time and effort.
@charlesrudish91474 жыл бұрын
You are just showing your ignorance Mark. Ever heard of vertical ventilation? You ever been a fire fighter? Obviously not.
@smitty19523 жыл бұрын
What are the chances the two women at 10:54 are the two arsonists?
@johngoglia69813 жыл бұрын
Arsonist do stand and watch.. arson, was it revenge?.. $$$$$$$..... or sexual gratification
@oldschoolcop85684 жыл бұрын
What is up with the over weight firemen?
@JB917104 жыл бұрын
The vast majority of American fire fighters join up because they don't want to Work and Create like You have to. Do nothing all day. When there is a call, they stand around, break windows and squirt water and 95% of them can't even get that done right. These are the people everyone worships.
@charlesrudish91474 жыл бұрын
They are volunteers, Bill
@JB917104 жыл бұрын
@@floydyoung7329 To do a JOB well, you have to posses a strong and responsible Work Ethic. That does Not come with a paycheck or uniform. You have it or you don't. Don't fall into the same hole as most people do when they say, "You are wrong." What is wrong about anything I say.
@floydyoung73294 жыл бұрын
@@JB91710 I think I actually misread what you said. Therefore I will retract my statement.
@kruzn19344 жыл бұрын
Firefighters go to work in the morning and eat 'till they get sleepy then sleep 'till they get hungry.
@Howrider655 жыл бұрын
The keystone fire fighters my god...
@dallasjarrett55375 жыл бұрын
Theres more to it than you think
@danielletripkoff41995 жыл бұрын
All of the fire departments worked very well together!!!
@nagielbanacia36723 жыл бұрын
no urgency... hayyy
@jackjfb8439 Жыл бұрын
Nothing a little, well, a lot of training can’t fix…..
@davidsonlankford11684 жыл бұрын
Nothing like being color coordinated! Yellow and black fire truck, green hose, blue hose ??? If you can’t fight fire at least be fashionable.
@krb52924 жыл бұрын
If you are talking about Engine 3, it looks later in the video to be a dark green. Interesting color choice; I would like to hear the history or reason for it.
@wilsonperalta75213 жыл бұрын
Lousy firemen.
@ffandrewd29863 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see you do better.
@wilsonperalta75213 жыл бұрын
@@ffandrewd2986 are you one of them?
@ffandrewd29863 жыл бұрын
@@wilsonperalta7521 no, but I’m saying I’d like to see you do better.
@negansstuntdouble17773 жыл бұрын
those words do not go together
@beckytwister013 жыл бұрын
That smoke definitely didn't help.
@peterdrake23164 жыл бұрын
I think American fire departments are over equipped and under trained!
@davidsonlankford11684 жыл бұрын
For sure. It’s a racket for the few companies that build this equipment. If you think the equipment is over kill..........you ought to see the fire houses some of the volunteer organizations build.
@JB917104 жыл бұрын
They attract the following. 1. People who don't want to Work for a living. 2. People who want to live off the taxpayers without having to Work for a living and get a pension after they put in their 20. 3. Insecure people who want to be Instant heroes in the eyes of the public Just for Joining Up, Dressing Up and Showing Up. 4. People who couldn't possibly make anything but a fast food wage but of course, they wouldn't have them because they don't want to work. 5. People who care but they are dreamers of Bravery and Heroics and when it comes to work, they have no work ethic at all let alone a strong one. 6. Anyone who can do the job left real quick after they saw who they would be working with. I'm talking about the OFFICERS First and Then the Fire Players. Welcome to the real world of American Fire Playing.
@FloridaCatholicGuy3 жыл бұрын
@@JB91710 the more you comment, the more you look like the moron you are.
@FloridaCatholicGuy3 жыл бұрын
@@JB91710 someone couldn’t pass the test to even be a volunteer.
@jackh5773 жыл бұрын
too often.
@blancopolar46743 жыл бұрын
🙏👏🙌😢🇻🇪
@Og-Judy3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love these inept volunteer fire departments. Bunch of cops and business men who run from their business to the firehouse and put on costumes to play tuff guy. I grew up in this sort of scenario but homes were suburban ranch style 50s homes several yards away from each other. Little if any real training other than basics. Everyone knew who the men were and what business they owned
@negansstuntdouble17773 жыл бұрын
Ok so you want your taxes raised drastically to staff multiple fire houses 24/7 manpower pay/ rent/ utilities/ equipment... ahhh guess you will just keep dealing with the inept, by the way are the only ones there for you, hopefully you wont need them one day
@johngoglia69813 жыл бұрын
Question for you... you try to serve your communities volunteering
@johngoglia69813 жыл бұрын
Former retired firefighter and a heavy rescue TECHINICAN
@johnbanahan65533 жыл бұрын
You seem to know everything, maybe you could volunteer and help them out.
@gwencrawford7372 жыл бұрын
Really? Well, it sounds to me like you need to get off your butt, and go show them how it's done! I was chief of a career department before I took my retirement and then got hired part time by a community to lead THEIR volunteer fire department. My volunteers were pretty damn good before I even showed up, and it's been a DREAM job for me since I took the helm. The lowest performers among my firefighters, are pretty good... and the average to higher performing members are just THAT much better. And they do the job, asking only that they're given good equipment to do the job with, and that if they get hurt or worse doing it, that they and their families will be looked after. It's an HONOR to have been given the privilege to lead the men and women I lead. I've met volunteers and paid personnel all across the country... If you think you can do better... shut up and join up and show us. Otherwise... hush and leave the thinking to people who actually have the initiative to put their money where their mouth is.
@richardcentkowski1465 жыл бұрын
Just amazes me on how many firefighters are just walking around doing nothing. Waste of tax payers money
@danielroyer99745 жыл бұрын
Waste of taxpayer money? Most firefighters are volunteer, and the paid ones make between ten dollars an hour to fifteen dollars an hour. Hardly a waste considering that they likely rotate who gets to suit up and fight the fire.
@richardcentkowski1465 жыл бұрын
@@danielroyer9974 volunteers are now paid on call meaning they only get paid if their on a call. Their are no more true volunteer fire departments.
@zachl60695 жыл бұрын
@@richardcentkowski146 that's a complete lie
@richardcentkowski1465 жыл бұрын
@@zachl6069 not it isnt a lie look it up volunteer get paid in one form or another. Whether its write off or paid on call.
@richardcentkowski1465 жыл бұрын
@@danielroyer9974 I looked it up and firefighters get an average of 22.50 hr
@paulwalsh5485 жыл бұрын
not even wearing Ba and wants water first, and hose lay outs in some of these vids are disgusting.
@daveskritterkingdom5 жыл бұрын
All fires go out sooner or later.
@peesmkr3 жыл бұрын
I would put Texas volunteers fire fighters up against these guys any day !
@skidude89893 жыл бұрын
What was the ponit of that idiot comment. These firefighters have tactical issues starting with building construction and types that Texas firefighters do not deal with. There is no such thing as wood frame row homes in Texas or old 2 1/2 story singles this close to each other. You are comparing apples to oranges. So the pump operator had issues with the rig. They still made the knock.
@negansstuntdouble17773 жыл бұрын
@@skidude8989 Bro dont even bother, this dude has no clue, probably looking for burt reynolds in the backwoods thinking the movie deliverance took part in his 1 horse town
@clausg.82114 жыл бұрын
Amateure
@mikefreeman36414 жыл бұрын
Superb knock-down. The good people of Mount Carmel should be proud and reassured that their fire department is one of the best.
@JB917104 жыл бұрын
Are you completely Out Of Your Mind? How old are you. 6? Did it give you a warm fuzzy feeling to say that?
@mikefreeman36414 жыл бұрын
@@JB91710 Don't take your broken dreams out on me.
@JB917104 жыл бұрын
@@mikefreeman3641 Oh so you are a GUESSER too? Go buy some lottery tickets and leave critiquing fire fighting performance to someone who knows something. Dreamers and Two Dimensional Reactors just don't get it. You don't evaluate the performance of the departments or even have the common sense to ask questions if you see something that doesn't make sense. Dream on!