2020 31 Sun 1000 watt grid tie Inverter with Limiter

I install and setup Sun 1000 watt Grid Tie Inverter. Just for my information and future reference.

[@sandorspalms]

What a great set-up my friend! I've used inverters for various tasks but nothing like you have!

[@offgridwanabe]

I like to understand how stuff works and I have been trying to see if I could eliminate my electrical bill so getting close this year.

[@sandorspalms]

@@offgridwanabe very smart

[@carsonlurbanwindandsolar3437]

Getting caught up man I'm far behind but I'm watching all of your videos that I missed today. I'll leave your thumbs up to let you know that I have been there and seen it thank you sir.

[@offgridwanabe]

awesome

[@jimginnyohio]

Nice job! Looks good! You shouldn’t have any problems with those getting hot. Mine run cool all the time!

[@offgridwanabe]

Thanks Jim so far they run cool but it is winter you have a nice setup there and I got lots of information from your videos. I am feeding them with about 4600 watts of PV with the battery tied in, so whenever the sun can keep the inverters running and bank charged I'll move up the limiter to 900

[@uittyman]

How long have you had yiurs installed for??? Im considering getting one...im doing some research about rekiability issues and ofcourse ultimately lingevity

[@jimginnyohio]

@@uittyman I had two of them installed for a little over five years. I disconnected them recently when I moved into a new house. They are still in excellent shape, so I plan to reinstall them when the weather gets better and I’m able to set up the solar panels.

[@jwsolarusa]

Awesome....!! Congratulations and have fun.

[@offgridwanabe]

I'm just catching up to you jw thanks

[@offgridlivingstlucia8865]

You will enjoy those inverters these very good units

[@offgridwanabe]

Thanks I hope to do the same thing for my daughter if they are good

[@johnbell1859]

I have one of these ,great inverter l would recommend them. 🇬🇧

[@offgridwanabe]

Yes sir they work great 👍

[@alisoncarney5889]

Hi john is it still working thinking of getting one alison uk Any advice ?

[@alisoncarney5889]

Hi john is it still working any advice thinking of getting one alison uk

[@oldtimeengineer26]

you should like them I liked mine and glad to see you turned the LCD off that was the only failure I had mine were version 1

[@offgridwanabe]

Yep so far they look too easy if I get the startup and shut down voltage where I need them. Thanks for watching OTE.

[@RolandW_DIYEnergyandMore]

I am running my 2000GTIL at 1400W and they are getting 60 degC hot :). I like those inverters...

[@offgridwanabe]

Mine run at about 40 degC max but we have cool weather and they are on limiters so they get a break too. Since longer days are here I moved them up to 850 watts each so last month they run about 180 kwh each.

[@CardBoardBoxPro]

how much have you backfed? any?

[@PopleBackyardFarm]

looks like a nice project

[@offgridwanabe]

Thanks for stopping by my project may even work when we get some sun again lol

[@DIYwithBatteries]

Wow nice inverters Sir👍

[@offgridwanabe]

Thanks will see how good they are but lot of people have them and say they are good.

[@thedabbler2753]

@@offgridwanabe I have the 2k on a 240v circuit, deliberately underpowered with 1.5kw of panels which have yet to hit 900w with all the {expletive} neighboring trees. No batteries yet, maybe one day. My hope / theory is that the GTIL will not be strained and have a nice long life. Summer AC aside my house draw is 300-600W after optimization which is great and so far (touch wood) the GTIL has worked great, with one minor anomaly where I was unable to navigate the menu structure; the back and forward wouldn't work until I power cycled it, which I'm assuming a software bug. That has only happened once, and hopefully that's the most it ever does as I've heard bad (melty) things from those push them hard. I installed it in September so a sunny hot summer has yet to come! If you go SolArk or Pip and the device can limit I'm sure many here would be interested in a video on it.

[@magvat]

Some serious battery there!

[@offgridwanabe]

50 kwh thanks

[@DIYSolarandWind]

You are so amazing.

[@offgridwanabe]

Wow, thank you!

[@vinalnand8494]

Thank you so much for video

[@offgridwanabe]

Ok and thanks for watching and comment

[@MrDoingEverything]

Interesting. How many days are you getting from your batteries before they get sucked dry. Happy holidays down there to.

[@offgridwanabe]

About 48 hours with no sun running@ 750 watts with a 85% charge to start. Yes Happy Holidays to you my friend

[@frankz1125]

Those will use way more then the grid ties. But they look great and will be better in summer. Merry Christmas

[@offgridwanabe]

Yes they will but I will be using what they supply so won't be dumping into grid at night. Thanks bro and Merry Christmas to you and yours.

[@offgridwanabe]

They were pretty cheap $365 each delivered so I had to have them lol Santa came early

[@frankz1125]

@@offgridwanabe My buddy has a couple. They work well. He also has the 230v version but its only single phase. They are ok for what they are made for.

[@offgridwanabe]

@@frankz1125 Yes I am approaching net zero on my year round production so I need to find ways to limit grid use without giving up something we want to use.

[@frankz1125]

@@offgridwanabe I dont think you will have enough to run them full out in winter. I would think you would use more then 2000w when things kick on at night. It will be better regulated but there just isnt enough sun . Im sure you will do better then having the regular grid ties tho.How many of them are you going to hook up?

[@chinggop]

Massive setup! does your inverter is powered by its own separate group of batteries, or both inverters draws power from one big pool of batteries. And what is the parameters setting in each inverters, if you made any adjustments from your inverters internal default settings. thank you.

[@offgridwanabe]

My system has two different battery systems but the sun inverters are on the 40 volt system which is the big battery bank. I only allow 850 watts on the limiter to ensure they don't overheat and to not kill the battery too fast even though the bank is 60 kwh I only let the sun inverters take it down to about 50% so I always have power in grid down time. Also in winter I can never get the bank fully charged unless I shut off inverters so I run it back down to 50% each day and charge whatever the sun allows.

[@jersungtx]

@OffGrid Wanabe I am looking to also extend the limiter cable. Where did you order yours? Also what gauge are they and are they shielded? Thanks

[@offgridwanabe]

I had some old telephone cable which has 2 pairs in it so I just used that 22 gauge solid wire I think. Obviously shielded would be better. If I wanted to wait I could order some pre-made off Ali Express but I thought I'd give what I had a try and it worked so well I never changed it I extended them 25 feet and used all the wires in 2 pair

[@jersungtx]

@@offgridwanabe also do u know what the connector are called? I am trying to make my own limiter extension. I believe you said in your video that the size you ordered were incorrect size. Did u ever find the right size? Thanks

[@offgridwanabe]

@@jersungtx They are called 2 PIN 16mm GX16-2 Screw Aviation Connector Plug the part I got wrong is the 16 mm it was too big. here is the Amazon link www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06XFPL5J4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I never bothered to find the right one I just desoldered the original and used it on the end of the longer wire while soldering the new ones in the middle .

[@robinthurston3382]

The correct size is a gx 12 aviation plug on my 1000 watt model. I verified the size of the plug with a micrometer.

[@jaycharles9548]

Never seen a battery set up like urs

[@offgridwanabe]

Well not too many like it the A123 Lifepo4 cells come out of buses from the city the were hybrids about 8 years old and being replaced by the city to go to 100% electric battery buses. They are 40 volts so as built they don't fit many inverters but lots of people reconfigure them but I decided to find ways to use them as manufactured so the voltage was perfect for the gris tied Sunn 100 and also enphase M250 micro inverters. Thanks for watching

[@JonOffgrid]

thank for sharing

[@offgridwanabe]

Thanks for watching John

[@vinalnand8494]

I wanted to know if I can directly plug in PV voltage to the inverter in the daytime do you think still work .

[@offgridwanabe]

Yes they are designed to allow direct connection to PV but limited to about 900 watts. So it can run with no battery this was the original way they came out and added the battery later. Recommend 4 - 245 watt panels 2 in parallel 2 sets in series.

[@vinalnand8494]

Thank you so much

[@drsolar]

Hello OGW t has been a while I watched your channel. I have to catch up. I hope all is well with you and yours

[@offgridwanabe]

You have been busy making a living but thanks for stopping by.

[@randomhobbies5796]

Where do you connect the limiter cable? One end on iverter and the other?

[@offgridwanabe]

On the load side of the main house feed in the panel be sure it is the same leg as the inverter is plugged into

[@randomhobbies5796]

thank you @@offgridwanabe

[@yankey4]

So I had to remove my sub then redo it. I am not being told when your posting videos. I do help the bell on. Sorry man. I was thinking of picked up a few of them. Then back feeding the 2 lines in the house. But 98% of my 120 loads are run off my pips. Also wife asked me not to as we do not know when we will be moving. God Bless brother.

[@offgridwanabe]

I think Utube only promotes it's favourites seems lot of peeps are having the same problem. The Sun inverters are just easy to use good for us lazy guys lol I wanted to try them out before I set up my daughters array.

[@CHIEFMONOBOBO]

I want to get 3 of these inverters. How do I extend the sensor? I need about 100ft x3

[@offgridwanabe]

I just used shielded telephone cable like what comes in from the pole. I think it would go 100 feet but it may be a little slow to respond. sorry for late response just found the comment.

[@thefaeryman]

have you considered the mpp hybrid inverters? happy, happy

[@offgridwanabe]

Yes John if I had it to do over again it would be sol ark or pip. but they never had that technology when I started, plus most of my equipment is used. Thanks for watching

[@benkanobe7500]

I see the KZbins on these and most of the successful YTers have Sun systems. But, when I go on Amazon or ebay I find what looks the same but is not a "Sun" branded item and they are not "Gen2". Can you provide a link or provide information on where I can purchase your exact inverter? (Sun Part Number??) I plan to use mine tied direct to my panels without batteries. I have two cheap 1,000Watt GTIs tied in with two-300 Watt/24 volt panels each in parallel. I would really like to switch to Suns with the limiter as where I live (San Diego) the power company is vicious towards all DIY solar. Thank you!

[@offgridwanabe]

Here is the link I used to buy but there are many places to buy the Sun 1000 grid tie Generation 2 www.aliexpress.com/item/32840436286.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.d8244c4dOLhJcs The Amazon link is here www.amazon.ca/ECO-WORTHY-Switch-Inverter-Limiter-System/dp/B076KBCHBM/ref=sr_1_20?dchild=1&keywords=Sun+Grid+tie+1000+generation+2&qid=1615221795&sr=8-20 But a lot more money. Wherever you order from make sure they include the correct electrical plug and CT (current transformer with long enough cable) also if you want wifi it is extra Good luck China delivery is about 6 weeks.

[@rossmccurry5988]

I'm so jealous, even batteries! Your Sun Inverter looks nice. I got 1 Mono LG 320 60 cell solar panel used to take the edge of my electrical bill $. Meter says family avg is 240w. Any suggestions for an inverter? so many to choose from. I might get another 300+ panel. Strong sun daily where i'm at.

[@offgridwanabe]

If you are going small that Sun 1000 inverter with limiter is easy and cheap and a good way to start then you could ad batteries and charge controller later.

[@rossmccurry5988]

@@offgridwanabe Thank you. Sun 1000 inverter coming. Sadly I have not bought any type of cables yet and yes batteries look like a great option. 24v though, doesn't that mean you need two 12 in paradelle? Its like a grand for lithium. ouch!

[@offgridwanabe]

@@rossmccurry5988 when you get it hooked up maybe look around for a couple panels that Sun will take 950 watts in panels

[@rossmccurry5988]

@@offgridwanabe Inverter just arrived today! not the exact model I wanted :(. Check this out: L2-1000W-DC45-90V-B The 45-90V model inverter will start up at 49.5V, after starting, the voltage will drop to 45V,then inverter can work in 45-90V. Voc 60-90V solar panels in parallel is suggested.For example:Voc=36V solar panel,we suggest 2 panels in series, then connect 2 or more groups in parallel. Rated Power (Peak/Continuous): 1000W / 900W DC Input Voltage: 45V~90V AC Output Voltage Range: 110V/220V Auto Peak power tracking voltage: 49.5~82V AC Output Frequency Range: 46Hz~65Hz Peak Inverter Efficiency: 92% Stackable: Just for AC Output Output Wareform: Pure sine wave Current solar panel I have is 40v 320 watt 60 cell. This dang thing requires 45v at least, omg.. looks like I need another solar panel. Should the panels almost match for parallel or doesn't matter? and then with 80v can I still add panels or am I getting confused? As for batteries, I'm so tempted to buy used even! lol.. Just to experience the storage of energyyy.. Any advice don't hold back. 20ft 10gauge solar cables coming saturday.. Any controller/charger suggestions?

[@offgridwanabe]

@@rossmccurry5988 Ah the learning curve has set in lol. Ya that one is the high voltage inverter I guess you didn't find the low voltage one but we have to work with what we got. yes you will need at least one more panel hooked in series to increase the voltage high enough to start that inverter. Check out the manual read it twice or three times as there are limits so the voltage has to be in the range and the watts have to be under maximum which I believe is 1000 watts so with your panel you can only use 2 panels otherwise 3 in series would be over the voltage and 4 panels in series parallel ( 2 in series and 2 sets in parallel) would be over the wattage so the panel selection is critical you may find some used 250 watt panels which would give you a better fit. Now if you go with batteries and charge controller you can have more panels only limited by the charge controller maximum but you have to configure the batteries to a higher voltage at least 48 volts. Hey good luck and if you need more help just ask.

[@dainthamos4712]

Do you see the savings being reflected in your utility bill

[@offgridwanabe]

Oh yes on my 100% electric home I am now down to $38 a month for the last year down from $300 a month before solar. These Sun inverters will easy do 100 kwh a month so it is another step toward net zero.

[@vinalnand8494]

Good morning Sir I wanted to know if I could use my current panels which are 4 panels 285 watts and 4 pnanels 100 Watts. Just PV power to my inverter.

[@offgridwanabe]

Yes as long as you stay within the limits set by the manufacturer under 1000 watts and within the voltage range I believe for the Sun 1000 is under 65 volts and above 24 volts

[@vinalnand8494]

Thank you so much

[@offgridwanabe]

@@vinalnand8494 Good luck

[@uittyman]

How has this held up????? Do you still have it installed ????

[@offgridwanabe]

Yes I still run them everyday they have been great no problems they produce about 1500 kwh a year each

[@uittyman]

@@offgridwanabe thank you so much for your response

[@diyrenewableenergyelectron4996]

What kind of voltage range do you use for your batteries?

[@offgridwanabe]

basically 37-42 on the mains and 3.0 - 3.5 on the cell. I always hit a 3.0 before a 37 so it loses a bit of capacity but we are talking the cheapest lithium on the market.

[@diyrenewableenergyelectron4996]

@@offgridwanabe very nice! With that type of cycling those cells are gonna last forever! My LiFePO4 cells typically go from 3.32v down to about 3.18v. Anythinghigher or lower and They start getting really out of balance. They should last a very long time. I reckon yours will too!

[@offgridwanabe]

@@diyrenewableenergyelectron4996 Yes that is the same problem I have so after 3.42 they start drifting apart that is when my active balancer cuts in. Every once in a while try to discharge and bottom balance it seems to add more capacity than top balancing.

[@diyrenewableenergyelectron4996]

@@offgridwanabe thats interesting, ill have to give it a shot. I bought the BYD batteries from battery hookup and these things were rode hard and put away wet. I'm pretty sure keeping them in balance beyond 3.45 and 3v is going to be next to impossible since these batteries are heavily degraded. Compared to what they were designed for though, I'm giving them an easy retirement at the country club. 😂

[@diyrenewableenergyelectron4996]

@@offgridwanabe how do you like the active balancer?

[@MatthewBayard]

How can you get battery and solar into this inverter?

[@offgridwanabe]

It has positive and negative connections on top for battery or solar.

[@MatthewBayard]

@@offgridwanabe how to hook up both at the same time? Battery and solar

[@offgridwanabe]

@@MatthewBayard you can't so I just use the battery and charge the battery with solar charge controller. But if you had no battery you could run it from solar while the sun shines.

[@user-vm3mj1iw8m]

Hello, i need your help please , i have 2 inverters as you have, but my main wire is 1 only( one phase) .so how i must install my 2 limiters? on the one phase both ? it will be okay? thank you very much

[@offgridwanabe]

I need more information what voltage do you have and what country do you live in?

[@user-vm3mj1iw8m]

@@offgridwanabe thank you for you answer )) voltage is 220v and i am from Cyprus. thank you so much

[@offgridwanabe]

From what I understand the inverters will work on single phase 220 with just putting the CT (sensor) on the hot wire Mains obviously if the load is less than one inverter will produce then only one will run until the load increases then the other one will start. I have never tried it as we use 2 120 volt leads (split phase) to make our 220 volts but I believe it will work, be sure to let us know after you have tried it. Cheers@@user-vm3mj1iw8m

[@user-vm3mj1iw8m]

@@offgridwanabe so how i can connect the limiters please?

[@offgridwanabe]

The limiters go on the main wire that feeds your panel both go on the same wire the hot wire none go on the neutral. @@user-vm3mj1iw8m

[@lancenadiedelgado2459]

Sir how can we know that limiter is functioning, we are using 240w which is our consumption , then the production of our solar is 350w, how can we know , how to lomit

[@offgridwanabe]

First make sure you have all the settings correct for limit use and the limiter attached to the AC load wires on the mains. It will start when ever you use an AC load. But if you are directly connected to solar without battery then it can only produce however much the panel is making at the time. Hook it all up and shut off the AC you should see the inverter shut down to zero turn on the AC and it will start it should show on the lcd how much load you have then when sun shines it will show how much it is making if it is making more than you are using the limiter is not working if it is working the AC load will show 5 or 10 watts if it shows negative you have to reverse the limiter wire CT.

[@Skynet169]

Do you have to run two or can you start with one inverter with limiter

[@offgridwanabe]

Sure one will work on 120 volts which is one leg in North America.

[@Skynet169]

@@offgridwanabe I bought one of these inverters and three solar panels I've got them hooked up says voltage to high. Am I hooking the three panels up wrong. Positive to negative and one negative and one positive run back to inverter. 300 watt 40v panels

[@offgridwanabe]

@@Skynet169 When you hook panels up in series + to - the voltage increases by the amount of the open voltage so with 3 panels you would have to go parallel but with 4 you would hook 2 in series which would likely make 48 volts depends on the panel then parellel the other 2 in series. So you would have 2 sets of 48 volts in parelle which would increase the amperage to 16 amps and have 48 volts. What kind of panels do you have eg 3 - 12 volt panels would work which would do less than 60 volts but 3 24 volt panels would be more than the 65 volts allowed. I understand this may be confusing but I hope this helped. If you need more ask away.

[@offgridwanabe]

@@Skynet169 OK 40 volt panels will have to be in parallel so the amperage increases and the voltage stay the same so all the positives together and all the negatives together.

[@Skynet169]

@@offgridwanabe alright I just plugged one solar panel into inverter does show the voltage but no wattage clear sunny sky here in Ohio

[@RJ-cc1fz]

Let them supply 240v. Your electric company meter reads your power usage at 240v. Your meter has one ct in it with both mains going thru it in opposite directions. People don’t understand that and think they have to use a 120v supply from these inverters.. I’ve been using two 2kw 240v inverters for years.

[@offgridwanabe]

Both work but the 240 volt version needs the CT to be modified when using only one inverter. They were designed to run on single phase 230 volt which is more similar to 120 single phase than 240 split phase but whatever works. Thanks for watching and comment.

[@Alex300zxTT]

RJ can you explain your setup, i'm trying to see how to set up a single 2k 240v like yours, ( not sure about getting a second unit)

[@offgridwanabe]

@@Alex300zxTT Well the only way I can see it working is if you connect 2 CT clamps to one wire so you don't backfeed the grid

[@user-xx4qk5sd4p]

sir we have a problem note that the solar system does not save energy On the contrary, more energy is consumed than is happening Why instead of saving increases consumption?

[@offgridwanabe]

Do you charge it with solar panels

[@offgridwanabe]

if you have the CT on backward and your utility does not allow netmetering the meter can not tell which way the power is flowing and it will record use in both directions.

[@user-xx4qk5sd4p]

@@offgridwanabe no sir, I have 800 watts with two panels connected to the hybrid inverter, it is a grid on but after a month I do not reduce anything rather, the resitive consumption of light was more expensive this is the inverter i bought SUN 1000W Solar Grid Tie Inverter with Limiter Sensor Wi-Fi DC 22-65V 45-90V AC

[@user-xx4qk5sd4p]

@@offgridwanabe what is the CT sir?

[@user-xx4qk5sd4p]

@@offgridwanabe refers to the sensor where it should be connected It has to be connector after the electrical box or where

[@TheKiloG69]

Nice addition no sense sell power for a loss. Sell back benefit is on the way out. The power co here is paying less& less each year plus u get to pay sales tax on it .That's what I was told any way. Powers that be don't want to pay for your power.

[@offgridwanabe]

Yes times are a changing so we adjust Thanks for watching

[@papax4815]

You could save so much more money using micro inverters, and buy a powerball battery bank

[@offgridwanabe]

Yes I have 40 micro inverters (Enphase) in my system these sun inverters fill in the night shift nicely

[@papax4815]

@@offgridwanabe awesome

[@papax4815]

@@offgridwanabe what model emphase

[@papax4815]

@@offgridwanabe trying to figure it out

[@offgridwanabe]

@@papax4815 32 M250 & 8 M215

[@SelfHandledRogue]

Can you teach me?

[@offgridwanabe]

I can answer your questions if you ask.

[@SelfHandledRogue]

@@offgridwanabe thanks. I've yet to see a more impressive system. Looks like a work of art.

[@offgridwanabe]

@@SelfHandledRogue Thank you my system is different but it needs some more organization, that comes from working with what I can find that is inexpensive and not usually new.

[@afsallais9825]

dont buy this thing it very bad. you cant change the settings. the production lower than other converters. i bought solis inverter after this and it has much better output in lower sun light.

[@offgridwanabe]

To each their own I love this Sun inverter it works great and is priced right.

[@offgridwanabe]

I would like to try a Solis some day there software seems very in depth.