2020 Battle of the Big Knives Part 2 - SHOCKING FAILURE!

This is part 2 of my Big Blade Chop Fest video series. Had a surprise happen during testing when one of the knives broke in half! Check it out!
Blades used in this video:
CRKT Karen Hood Chopper
Schrade SCHF45 Leroy
Kabar Jarosz Choppa
MTech Raptor
Monarch Bowie Knife
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[@fit4knives882]

Update video on Schrade SCHF45 Leroy. Check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/enuxdKKCmsSgr80

[@greogesnote8507]

Thanks, I was never a big fan of Schrade. But I didn’t expect a failure like that.

[@navigator1372]

Im not a schrade fan either

[@jorgefernandez6407]

I remember this video well! I had just got my Leroy, and about a week(?) later, I see this video and CATASTROPHE!!! OH NO, not the Leroy... Thank you for re-doing the test. It enabled me to love my Leroy again lol...

[@jorgefernandez6407]

SUBSCRIBED!!! You do an EXCELLENT real world review of your blades... I'm in! Looking forward to seeing your videos!!!

[@billyheaning]

The break is at 13:46 if you're impatient like me. Spoiler below: it was the Schrade

[@maxbai7750]

Well, actually not surprised at all...

[@aviatorofpeace4184]

Thank you.. I had my money on it being that one.. Bit gutted really, cos I own a Schrade .. the SCHF36. Now, I'm hesitant to actually use it..!!

[@Dadolphinsmakemecry]

My Jethro STILL killin ANY wood I put it to,and I baton it like a mad man.

[@aviatorofpeace4184]

@@Dadolphinsmakemecry "my Jethro" .... "Baton it like a madman" 🤔 Are we talking about bushcraft or euphemisms for wanking and an odd name for one's cock.!?

[@kylefarris8866]

It could be because this jackass decided to cut construction grade tubing which weakened the Leroy. At that point, go get a circular or reciprocating saw, not a knife. These knives were designed for survival not construction applications. Go cut down a real tree, not a branch.

[@joeframo3347]

Very nice John thank you for sharing your knives 😎❤️🤗🖐️👍

[@frankcastle4435]

Hey Fit 4, I am digging the ole grey soul patch, my beard is getting grey as hell, my kids are started calling me Father Time, little assholes LOL

[@tim777us]

Glad I saved money and waited to get the Bark River Shining Mountain Bowie instead of going on the cheap and buying the Schrade Leroy Bowie. I actually like Schrade quite a bit, but they do not appear to make hard use knives. Schrade's customer service is fantastic and their boot clip knives appear to be good. Just not hardcore in-the-woods good! Thanks for the review! Very 👀 opening!

[@herbderbler1585]

That's one of the saddest feelings, when you have a good tool, then suddenly you don't. As you said, it's a good thing it broke here and not out in the wilderness. Nice review, I'm kinda sad I seem to have missed out on the Jarosz Choppa as it's no longer available. I did snag a War Sword for 40 bucks on clearance so even if it's only mediocre, it was cheap and I'm not particularly worried about a Ka-Bar breaking.

[@bobdole7292]

Schrade isn’t a good tool they’re a garbage brand

[@Horde334]

@@bobdole7292 Funny thing years ago when they weren't a bad budget brand but the moment taylor brands handed over the production of their knives i believe it was Bti tools which makes those crappy s&w knives the quality control without surprise or shock just plummeted.

[@jessmoorlag5920]

Thank you kindly sir you just saved me a couple hundred dollars a whole lotta anger and quite possibly a injury to myself or another hat off to you sir

[@iCazZiStronZi]

I just ordered a Ka-bar Choppa, I already have the Ka-bar USMC and Ka-bar Tanto Stealth fighting knife. They are my favourite knives and very durable, high quality, well balanced and razor sharp from the box.

[@commoditycheeze9184]

Dang brother thanks for the review! I have been eyeballing the Leroy knife Amazon offer a set for like 150 glad I didn't squeeze the trigger on that purchase thanks!

[@tigerpisces5506]

Yeah I almost bought the Leroy glad I did not

[@EDCPride]

Knives break. I've snapped a Top Tom Brown Tracker on 4×4. My Leroy is still going strong, so are my Kabars. Hell, my second tracker is still going super. Can't judge a blade by one video, with a knife that was likely faulty.

[@jean-christophel.7745]

Hello, i'm watching your review from Europe and honestly thought I was going to die laughing when you hit that big pipe and it made that sound to funny... you where very lucky with the Schrade, the blade hit you but didn't hurt you. So much the better. I like the Jarosz, I think I will but it. Goog continuation 👍

[@fit4knives882]

I don't own a blade that has even come close to cutting through that hose yet. lol. I was very lucky indeed when the Schrade broke. The Jarosz Choppa is a good blade. I still use it. Thank you for watching and commenting.

[@jean-christophel.7745]

@@fit4knives882 I like your reviews, they are quite honest. To tell the truth I only buy knives made in the USA or in Europe. I don't trust the Chinese for knives. Chinese steels are known to be unreliable in quality and the heat treatment is often poor. I really like the 1095CroVan American and the high quality and reliable Ka-bar heat treatment. I build knives for my use and like simple and reliable steels. 80CrV2, XC75 (1075), XC100 (1095), 100MnCrW4 (O1) ... more expensive than Chinese steels but for me reliability is essential. Good luck, I subscribe

[@flyoverkid55]

I would like to say I'm surprised that the Schrade broke, but I can't. I will say I was impressed with the CRKT offering, I carry a Crawford Kasper folder, have had it for nearly 20 years. Also impressed with the Kabar. I don't intend to do much chopping with my knives, but it's nice to know which can handle it.

[@derekcroft2055]

Greetings 🤠 From Nova Scotia Canada,,,,,your video is the 3RD I seen on the Failure of the Leroy Bowie !! The other 2 the blade Never Broke but the edge was chipped & rolled !! I was thinking strongly about buying the Leroy Bowie but AFTER the 3 videos I seen !! No way I get 1 now. Thank You Sir.

[@liedebunker1253]

I've got a KA-BAR myself, and it's really a great knife. I kind of knew from the beginning that the KA-BAR would win. If you need a survival knife, the KA-BAR Choppa is the one for you.

[@tubes5150]

Damn Leroy !!! You are just full of surprises haha 😂. That sucks bro !! I always liked that knife too . It must of been a Friday when that was being made . Guy just wanted to finish up - punch that clock and hit Happy Hour 🍻. Great Video brother . Nice set of power house blades 🤠

[@fit4knives882]

Yep it was definitely a Friday and he may have been drunk at work. I looked at the broken blade a few days ago and noticed a rust spot inside the steel where it failed. I may make a video showing it and get some input from folks. God bless my friend

[@peopleslayer12333]

Your awesome man, really enjoyed the video.

[@hosssdualsportadventures5774]

Great review thank you 👍

[@akioutsunomiya4343]

wow thakyou from the north winnipeg Canada thankyou love the demo thankyou

[@ShowemRight]

Great Presentation, remember, safety first. Thankfully you or anyone else didn't;t get hurt from that breakage.

[@fit4knives882]

Thank you. I was lucky and I am thankful I wasn't hurt.

[@TheOneAndOnlySame]

Who would have thought that crappy stainless wasn't fit for a huge chopping blade

[@charlietangomike5211]

Great video sir . I like your style

[@ricev7071]

Oh man, I remember Academy! I used to love going there when I was a kid.

[@robertbates1910]

I own all these knives except the Monarch, I'm surprised that the Shrade broke, I really like the Leroy also. The Ka bar is my favorite of these, only because the Raptor is so heavy, and a bit cumbersome. Thank u for this video. I was really pulling for Leroy. I'd check into a replacement on that.

[@kylefarris8866]

The Leroy probably weakened from this jackass hitting it with the very last construction grade tubing. At that point, go get a circular or reciprocating saw, a survival knife doesn't chop construction grade tubing.

[@karlwalter2242]

My Leroy came with a very crap tempering job.... I grinded all the paper thin part made a new edge, and took the scales off ,of course , re tempered the steel on an electric oven at 485° for half an hour, and put back together and went and hacked hard wood from furniture, that ain't no tree branch, aimed to break it, didn't happen.... 50/50 feelings, because for 40 something bucks I shouldn't had to re done the blade.... won't buy one ever again...

[@tim777us]

@@kylefarris8866 yeah, true about the tubing. My knives chop wood and similar media. They are for camping and survival, not construction demolition.

[@fit4knives882]

@@kylefarris8866 Jackass? Watch your mouth son. The only reason I put these knives through abnormal tests is to find out what kind of abuse they can take. I bought the damn knives I can test them how I wish. Watch something else troll.

[@kylefarris8866]

@@fit4knives882 I would think someone who reviews and test outdoors equipment would actually use them for their true purpose and setting. Not on top of a table using construction grade tubing. Fix your methods.

[@craigbrigden6670]

I would say not so shocking failure. I have had alot of schrade failures personally. It seems that the Brian Griffin knives were made very well, but the rest.hit or miss. I've just purchased the Jaros choppa thanks to your review. Cant wait to get my hands on it. Thanks for the thorough comparison.

[@flashforce699]

Is there Any more info on that Monarch, like where or when you got it ? Im trying to find out anything I can on it for you .I have to admit that it intrigues me ! If you look up the SOG Jungle Primitive it is almost a clone

[@patrifacoseneicampi9901]

nice video! gonna buy the MTech Raptor soon :)

[@OnTheRiver66]

I liked the way you conducted that review. I suspect the Schrade heat treatment and tempering left it too brittle. It would be terrible to have that happen in a survival situation. I’ve seen ax heads come off their handle so I never stand in front of someone chopping wood but never thought about staying away from someone chopping a limb with a knife!

[@kylefarris8866]

Or it could be because these knives weren't made for cutting construction grade tubing, the last one. At that point, go get a circular or reciprocating saw. This jackass clearly doesn't know how to conduct a fair and legit review.

[@dias5456]

Do you think the schrader knife was just a faulty one ? They seem to give life time warranty on their blades so Im guessing they should be decent.

[@alivekicking5415]

Awesome video! Sucks to have a knife fail like that 😬

[@Brianwlctt38]

I had a Schrade break in half just like that while chopping kindling on a camping trip - first time I ever used it (SCHF36), and the knife was about 1/4" thick. I filled out their online form and they sent me a new one, no questions. That said, I probably won't take it on a trip again - sucks because it was a good size and I like the design. I was only out for a couple of nights, so it wasn't a huge deal, but if I'd been relying on it I would have been screwed.

[@duran2085]

Can you do a review on the condor tactical gladius sword

[@RICH21716]

Did you ever contact Schrade about the failure? Curious what their response was?

[@shinedown394]

Herbert and Quincy...bots. They post on all kinds of videos. Fake as can be.

[@Wifgargfhaurh]

A knife shattering like that is not only bad because you lost the knife but it's also very dangerous. Im glad the blade flew away from you!

[@danielbossis2939]

Very good Video !! , Do you try the " Condor Woodbuster" !

[@CSGraves]

Yikes, that coulda ended much worse though... reminds one of that Home Shopping Channel katana shattering video. "Folks.... we may need.... emergency surgery.... in the studio."

[@vincef7487]

13:46 ANY KNIFE would have failed under those conditions ...if it was crap. The Schrade Leroy just happens to fall under that category -> crap.

[@DanielVBlades]

Nice channel, keep it up brother.

[@johnnylightning5633]

I got a blade for you to try if you can find it. The Kubey D2 big Spirite or the model 238 which is the same knife. I bought one and it's a modified tracker blade on steroids. It's 7.0 for the blade and it cuts and carves awesome. Love to see ya do a review and enjoyed the review alot even though I do love the leroy I have and use alot.Keep up the great reviews and Hope your Holidays are Great!

[@LuisGonzalez-gl4wc]

I think the steel choice also played a role in that failure. 8cr13MoV is not a steel I would pick for a chopper. Ideally 5160 would be good, but the 1095 in the CRKT and Kabar would be adequate. I also have that Karen Hood Chopper, it is light; I think that is why I picked it up, even though I knew it wasn’t going to be the best chopper. That Jaroz Chopper also has my attention.

[@charliebravo6869]

Schrade now has his blades made in Taiwan from 1095 carbon steel.

[@hedayetullah4818]

How can I buy the MTech Raptor? Cheers

[@nelsonolivierjr3994]

I really like Mtech knives but never tested them since I got a boot knife and that is a smaller but thick knife. Boot knife sharp on both sides. Smaller 1 got a nice curve to it and notches cutouts. I do have this weird Knife from Fingerhut of all places they got like a 50 with a bundle of knives and this is big and mean looking but I'm afraid to test it out. Out of yours right here I like the Mtech of course and your fifth one as well. That 1st knife got a sweet look to it but I'm afraid where that notch is you got a hole for the handle pin so might be a spot it could break at the oddest of timing. Nice Video even tho I'm late to the party.

[@derekrobbens5355]

Good review hope you do some others

[@fit4knives882]

Have a new vid coming out today! Check it out and thanks for the comment

[@robertfulmer8475]

The first 2 knives were tested on the portion of the wood with more closely compacted dark growth rings wich are stronger than the light colored growth rings, you need a good 4 inch thick piece of oak with a more uniform thickness of dark growth rings, more of an actual test I would think as far as comparison in an actual survival situation to measure durability of sharpness and structural integrity for longevity of life

[@vincef7487]

Fit 4 Knives : Very informative review! 👍🏽‼️ Sub’d.

[@jrusu70]

That blade flying 😬💀

[@cathleen2]

Greetings from Nova Scotia Canada & I'd like to point out: I personally am NOT a fan of the Leroy Bowie by Schrade !! Before I clicked on this video, I watched several other videos on that knife & 1 way or another, they all seemed to FAIL at something, whether batoning or chopping or whatever the task. I could've bet $100 The knife that failed in this video was going to be the Leroy Bowie. Excellent Test of knives. 💯👍👌

[@jeremygiddings2551]

What from I've seen Schrade puts out large quantities of knives that are improperly heat treated causing similar failures. Schrade sux!!!

[@rebelyell2741]

I anneal my Schrades in the oven. Take them apart and put in a very clean 350 degree oven facing magnetic north for two hours. Do this twice. I’ve never had an issue with chipping or breaking after doing this with their 1095 knives. Never bought stainless from them.

[@eliteknowledge7298]

Sure does! Schrade seems to be shit, We've all seen way too many blades snapp right off to call these examples just a "bad run"

[@tomritter493]

I was waiting lol my brush sword .bent and rippled .littel Ricky is in half and Leroy died a good death on a oak . Lol love the channel

[@powerplay4real174]

Tom Ritter ,hey pal ,😎 No Leroy or Little Ricky for me 😂😂😂 How are those Timber Rattler Tr77 Blades holding up pal ,I still have my two and if I could would get two more because they that tough ,so I'm glad I saw your video years ago and purchase mine and not that ole Leroy crap. 🎱🎱♥️🖤🖤🖤♥️🎱🎱

[@tomritter493]

@@powerplay4real174 77s can still be had on eBay .dont trust anything that comes out of that place anymore .good to see ya pp

[@ShowemRight]

I could take heavy Oneida brand butterknife and throw it across a large asphalt parking lot, all it will get is some scrapes and bangs here and there, but it would never break in half. Something about the stainless thats used in utensils that would just bend instead of breaking.

[@uticacrib1664]

I really like the looks of that Ka-Bar.

[@makerofmanythings8447]

If you had a tree stump all your knife tests would perform better. It would be a solid foundation. Nice video brother. Love my BK-9 - BK2.

[@stevelewis7263]

Could you do a video on the British MOD survival knife, it's a bit like a $20 hooker, rough round the edges, needs some work to look presentable, but boy does it perform

[@gravytrainoutdoors]

Want to know a little magic trick? Spray that thick hose with a bit of soapy water and watch the knife really bite in! Cool video man

[@the-all-american1016]

Keep up the good work

[@bluegrasssurvival9423]

You get what you pay for folks. A good solid heat treatment for a manufacturer like Peters Heat Treating for example is around 15 bucks per blade. Now take into account cost of materials, labor, ect. Schrade is selling knives with Micarta Handles and made of 1095 for 40 bucks. The handles alone sell for that much. You couldn't give me a Schrade.

[@jorgefernandez6407]

Anywhere that you know of to get ahold of that mtech raptor???

[@fit4knives882]

Unfortunately they were discontinued. Sometimes they come up on ebay.

[@borneoagathis5920]

I think Monarch is a Japanese brand? I have an old Monarch Original Bowie knife & it is made in Japan.

[@petrosspetrosgali]

Why no Esee?

[@theWZZA]

I like how the dead Schrade is bouncing around on the table, reminding everyone of its failure.

[@tigerpisces5506]

This was Kabar's answer to the Top's Tom Brown Tracker 1 and it's awesome vs a $300 knife that is awkward and impossible to sharpen. I wonder if Swamp People use it skinning gators in Florida. MSK-1 Survivalist is $300 and its an exact copy of this Ka-Bar Warthog. MSK-1 came up with $150-$200 version and this a great suvivalist knive for $60.

[@jimyocum9556]

Schf45 has served me well for 3 winter's I've beat mine through hardwood like oak, locus,ash and it's held up great making kindling for fireplace..bad heat treatment would be my guess.. 8cr13 gets a lot of crap but it's one though steel and after years of abuse (wood only) still cuts paper after I knocked the edge back to 20 with a worksharp I have no complaint my tip broke but what I did to break the tip would've broken just about any tip on a knife..call schrade they use to replace but I Know they have new owners since I've dealt with them last

[@ronalddunne3413]

GET TO DA CHOPPA!!! Interesting, thanks!

[@kjvwarrior777]

That Raptor has a cool blade shape..........

[@cybersam2766]

Not fair! NEVER compare made in China vs. US made bro ; ) Thx for the reviews, came here to see Jarosz Camp Turok performance.

[@dwaynewalker986]

As a new subscriber, I see this video is 2 years old ....... but I'm very curious to learn how you know the Raptor is 7Cr13. I bought an Outlander Bowie about 5 years ago and was told by a Master Cutlery representative in Massachusettes that the steel used to make the knife was 3Cr13. Can you give any information to the contrary?

[@fit4knives882]

I review so many knives I make mistakes occasionally. 440C is printed on the Raptor Blade so I am assuming that's what it is made of. Thank you Dwayne.

[@dwaynewalker986]

@@fit4knives882 I like your videos and subscribed. It sure wasn't my intention to try to say you were wrong or mistaken. I bought an Outlander that was advertised as 440c. On the blade one side said 440c ,the other side said 8Cr13. I contacted Master Cutlery and spoke with a girl in Massachusettes who said she would ask the manufacturing plant technicians . Two or three days later I received an Email from her saying she was told the steel was 3Cr13. My guess is the only way to know for sure would be to have the steel analyzed. I still have that Outlander and you're right, it's a beast. Again, thanks for responding......and the good videos.

[@adamboylan2307]

The schrade breaking was absolutely no surprise. They have the worst heat treating of any well known knife company.

[@greyman1363]

Want to see a spyderco darn dao test . Not doing it to mine

[@Stil_grindin]

I agree, despite the failure, that action you used was pure and would mos def be covered under warranty if they offer one. As far as a weak point in that knife, the grain structure looked super clean and even, can’t see it great on my phone but, steel with that nice of internal structure should NOT have broken like that. Even as viciously as you were hacking, I’ve seen far more violent action on cheeped knives hold up. I’m curious if that company offered replacement? Again, entertaining and educational. Thanks my man! I’m Glad that flying blade didn’t sever an artery lol 😆

[@fit4knives882]

Well with all thats going on I havent contacted them yet. When I do I will let ya know. I hear they are pretty good about taking care of their customers. I dodged a bullet as far as being injured. All I heard was a "PING!" and just hoped for the best. Guess I'll start wearing my plate carrier, leather gaunlets and a knight helmet lol.Thanks man for the comment and for watching.

[@kevinAuman1]

Yeah i love the crkt KHC it takes getting used to and once you find the sweet spot that sucker chops and chops! Another killer is the ontario raider bowie sp10

[@kevinAuman1]

Although nothing chops like an actual custom performance specific chopper like the one I have made by Gavko knives

[@thebigfellar7178]

Schrade changed up something on their knives ( Chinese ) changed metal. Not just the Leroy are breaking , all of them are. Buyer beware.

[@dombond6515]

This was awsome

[@HarryKenyon]

That raptor is bats. I have that Monarch I have and does well as a camp chopper, eats through most of what we have in Texas. It is super comfy. Have a few shrades and in battoning they really just stall and I'm not impressed. I personally tend to stick to under 6 inch for most bushcraft

[@peterwilson1295]

Looks like a casting? The Schrade.

[@waldmeisterbrehm]

Great Video! Thumbs up, Subbed and ring the Bell. Shocking Video :) when i heard the breaking noise of the shrade, it reminds me on my broken cold steel drop forged survival. it sounds like cast iron. the steel was to long to hot and then the structure becomes like cast iron. greetings from cologne, germany arthur brehm

[@jorgefernandez6407]

Mesmerized by that mtech RAPTOR BRO!!!

[@fit4knives882]

Yes it is a beast. It's so thick the 440c stainless has no choice but be strong.

[@toadstkr]

You can’t expect cheap stainless or even higher end stainless steels to act like a tool steel like 1095. It will almost always chip easier under that kind of abuse depending on heat treatment of course but you can’t expect a cheap knife like the schrade to have a good heat treatment. But it was an enjoyable video

[@timbo4374]

8CR13 is a poor choice for a heavy chopper. My Leroy got a major chip out of the blade after my 1st and only use.

[@freenational]

Could be a bad heat treat or some other quality issues. Schrade should replace that. But that was dangerous though. Could have ricocheted into someone and killed that person. Ps. I think I know where the weak point is. It is probably the name that is stamped on it. The name stamping process probably put too much stress on the material and injured it. It was probably broken internally before first use.

[@jo.geiger5003]

Danke Klasse Test Schrade? LG jo

[@johnharrington4757]

The problem is most knife manufacturers use stainless steel and its way to brittle for large blade lengths.

[@jay03statingfacts96]

That bull hose is tuff

[@steverose3318]

Schrade is from a time when men were men and they knew better than to chop or baton with a knife. Small hatchets were the norm. Example: Estwing Sportsman E14A hatchet ... Chopped and batoned almost anything, and all you needed for a knife was a $3.00 Camp- King pocket knife. You looked like a pro getting all the tasks completed ... the correct way.

[@maxpeters2613]

Schrade has released knives using over cooked steel in the past. Prepairedminds101 Jessica-X knives are an example. Maybe they are still using the same blade maker?

[@fit4knives882]

Maybe. I still use my smaller Schrade knives but I get a lil nervous breaking out the bigger ones.

[@wild_willytrucking5434]

Are you wearing a Smoky Mountain Knife Works T-shirt??????

[@jeanvanjaarsveld6124]

tested my Schf3 extreme survival chopping loads of wood..proudly my best

[@joeframo3347]

Sorry John having such bad luck with knives you should try Perkins Bowie knife ball bearing Steel I think you would really like that Bowie knife it's handmade and it's beautiful and it's Sharp As a Razor check it out

[@adanma17]

Had the same thing happened to me while trying to chop bamboo, darn thing snapped in three places.

[@paultorgerson8776]

Sir, with all due respect I implore you to try the Ontario sp53. 5160, lots of belly. I cleaved an almost tennis ball sized rock in two with minimal edge damage. AWESOME!!!

[@paultorgerson8776]

Ontarios sp5 is .23 inch thick but unlike the Junglas it is a true full flat grind and there lies the weakness in the design for heavy use.

[@droppoint495]

Schrade blades seem like theyre always too hard the tip of my big old timer is in a break table somewhere lol 😔

[@bdh3949]

OK. I used a video analyzer at a slower speed and saw that you actually hit the table with that Schrade. When you stepped down just before the Schrade knife break you thereby lowered your center of arm pivot but you could not compensate because your upper arm is at a fixed length. So when you swung from a lower position the knife hit the corner edge of the table concentrating the the energies at exactly the point of break on the knife. That means a do-over. Check it out.

[@jorgefernandez6407]

Yeah but, did he happen to do that with any of the other knives and "they" didn't break?

[@bdh3949]

@@jorgefernandez6407 I don't know, do you?

[@jorgefernandez6407]

@@bdh3949 no. I thought you might. I have that knife. I was hoping it was some kind of fluke... But the hollow grind on a big chopper like that has shown it can cause problems...sigh!

[@bdh3949]

@@jorgefernandez6407 Indeed, makes me wonder why there is a need for big choppers...other than for jungle type vines, bushes, overgrowth, low hanging branches but even then I would use an axe on harder surfaces or at least on the belly of a recurved chopper not hit the strongest resistance at the narrowest point of the blade. That's almost reckless, akin to taking an axe and chopping and overreaching thereby hitting the wood to be chopped with the axe handle breaking it and saying "this axe sucks" or whatever phrase du jour is used by reviewers these days. The lab computer where I saw the graphics showed why the knife split and sheared to the right side of the user (basically too much knife blade was beyond the target wood wher the user made contact) which was lucky. If it had broken at the belly it probably would have sheared off to the left...across the path of the user. I have and use 3 Schrade SCHF's, the 35, 42, & 9. I don't misuse them much but they have helped me and my wood stove get through a many a cold winter's night

[@jorgefernandez6407]

@@bdh3949 well, as far as big choppers go, I can't help but like them. There is another giant blade he used in that test called the Raptor. A 2 pound 13 inch blade Bowie... Badass lol. But it's tough as nails!!! Of course, they don't make them anymore. It figures. Find something that truly works, and they stop making it... They want you buying more of the stuff that breaks (buy more!)... Oh well, now at least I know the limitations of my Leroy so it ain't all bad. And thank you for your analysis of that break! It lessened the heartbreak somewhat... :)

[@matthewsalomone3800]

I will never but a shrade for survival I've seen them fail to many times. I might use one to split firewood at home because I can return if it fails and it's not endangering my life in a survival situation.

[@frankcastle4435]

Save up your money and buy you a Esse, Topps, or Spartan, last two are pricey as hell for sure. I have had my Esse for for 10 years and put it through hell. Damn good knife for the money

[@I..cast..fireball]

This is what happens when they heat treat the entire blade to the same hardness. Brittle thruout. If your knife throws good sparks from a real flint on its spine as some bushcrafters like to do, that indicates your knife is too brittle in the spine. The answer is of course differential heat treatment. Hard edge, soft spine. Full hard is fine for small utility and carving knives, but a full hard chopping tool is asinine. If big knives are considered chopping tools (and really what the hell else could they be good for) then they need to be heat treated like chopping tools.

[@joevincer8337]

Mtech raptor is a beast!

[@bushtrash2286]

Yeah that's what happened to my Scrade as well.

[@totallyrandomstuffandrevie9609]

I own the mtech, best knife in their line. Shortsword/ sharpened prybar !

[@fit4knives882]

100% best knife they ever made. It is truly a beast. The Mtech Outlander is another one

[@jeffhayden2737]

I used to work QC as knives came in the Chinese knives go through 1 QC check if that. American and European knives went through 7-9 QC checks. You really do get what you pay for!

[@fit4knives882]

Really? That is a shame isn't it. QC should be equal for all! Thanks for sharing that info my friend.

[@douglasreed9237]

Try an Esee Junglas that blade should hold up fine. 👍