2020 Giant Fathom Lineup Comparison!! What's the Difference Between All 4 Bikes?

[@stephenmboroto8327]

This is how to do a comparison video, well detailed and articulate. Great job.

[@TalalipopMTB]

Thanks! I appreciate that :)

[@yourhairlineisgone]

Good to see you branch out and talk about multiple brands good on you also as informative as ever

[@TalalipopMTB]

Thank you :)

[@aaronm5871]

Thank you! Really like the way you do the comparison, clearly and logically and well organized.

[@TalalipopMTB]

Thank you :))

[@raymondmichielini6021]

I have the 2020 Fathom 2 for trail riding definitely a great for the price point its my favorite bike.Love the way you break down each bike and explain the differences,great video

[@TalalipopMTB]

Thank you!! I appreciate that :)

[@coletrick8748]

Thanks Talalipop! Love the breakdowns with no b.s.

[@TalalipopMTB]

You’re welcome! Thanks for watching :)

[@robsnow2099]

Great job bro, thanks for responding to viewer request so fast.

[@TalalipopMTB]

You're welcome!

[@Hotelpalace504]

Great video full crystal clear info. Thanks

[@TalalipopMTB]

Thank you!

[@bobjimenez-padyakpt2686]

Thank you for covering Giant

[@TalalipopMTB]

You're welcome! Thanks for watching :)

[@claudiucucos4797]

I can`t find anywhere the weight of the Fathom 2 29er (2020). Can you help me?

[@sickmak90]

I had a 2020 Giant Fathom 2 27.5 and it was ok. I actually really liked it but some of the components are meh, which is to be expected at that price. The crest 34 fork wasn’t bad at all. The SX Eagle I got SUCKED and my tektro brakes were also garbage. If everything functioned perfectly it would have been a great bike. I still wish they would ditch the 141 boost QR.

[@orriechaffin2850]

Very good as always. Can you do the trek stache, hardtail

[@TalalipopMTB]

Thanks! And sure I'll look into that one.

[@orriechaffin2850]

Talalipop MTB awesome, it’s a really interesting bike especially when you consider the really short chain stay and the huge tires. They discontinued the stache 5 after 2019. And there’s also a full suspension version of it maybe you mention.

[@jameswilson2815]

Thanks for that very informative video! Well done! I have my sights on a 29er. Fathom 1 of course. Pretty hard to find in Hawaii right now. Any help in finding one is greatly appreciated. Mahalo my friend.

[@TalalipopMTB]

You're welcome!! And unfortunately I can't help much there besides telling you to call bike shops often, since a lot of them get shipments of bikes every week or so and may have the one you are looking for. Maybe you can ask how often they get bikes and try to call when they say.

[@YogiBadhani]

Please make Cannondale lineup

[@michaelmartirez3157]

Hope you can compare the fathom to the xcaliber of trek. Thanks

[@ingenious_explorer]

Can you please do such comparison video for cannondale also.

[@nknganda]

Great video format. Would add geometry numbers. Thanks.

[@TalalipopMTB]

Thank you too!

[@rubensubba912]

Please do aspect and scale model lineup as well

[@badagaioo]

Hey! What effect do you think it would have to add a 40mm riser handlebar to the fathom 2 29? Thanks for the amazing videos!

[@TalalipopMTB]

Typically riser bars just make your sitting position more upright, which definitely helps for descents so you are not leaned as far forward, but it does slow you down a bit if you are trying to go fast since your position will be less efficient for getting as much power down on the pedals. Riser bars do also allow for some better cornering/turning which is nice, but since you are not putting as much power down you may notice slightly worse traction on the front tire. Since the fathom 29 is an xc bike, speed may be important for you, but if not then the riser bars should be perfectly fine in my opinion!

[@badagaioo]

@@TalalipopMTB aw man! Thank you so much for your super comprehensive response. My intention using the riser handlebar would be to add a little contort for flat terrain but considering that this bike climbs like hell and a great part of my routes include steep climbs I don't want to loose that hability. Once again, thanks! Keep up the amazing work with your videos.

[@TalalipopMTB]

@@badagaioo Thank you!! And yeah I see that dilemma; maybe you can also mess with the stem spacers and switch them around to make the handlebars lower on the bike. It'll just feel a little different from your flat bar then I believe.

[@stevemurray710]

I just checked the gi ant website on the 27.5. prices are up $150 on the F1. Fork changed too. No truvativ crank upgrade.

[@TalalipopMTB]

Oh this video is for the 2020 Fathoms. I'm working on the 2021 fathom lineup video currently, and it should be out soon!

[@JayG94]

Super confused, I'm in England & the website for 2021 Fathom are different colours shown from your video & also no Rockshox? Can you help me with the difference between them. So there are 4 Fathoms ?

[@TalalipopMTB]

These are the 2020 Fathoms. I haven't made a video on the new ones yet, but I'm working on it!

[@JayG94]

@@TalalipopMTB Ok thanks 👍🏻, which one is more the all rounder/light use one & which one is more heavy duty downhill one? I don't do any serious riding but I like to go for long bike rides on road/cyclepaths/ through the woods & quarries across fields etc I'm just wondering which one is more purpose

[@toffel4039]

2021 Fathoms r out and they are pretty sick!

[@harry1717]

I’m trying to get a budget entry level bike, either marlin 5 or talon 3. Which would you recommend?

[@Gamebit450]

It would be hard to say no to a volt green marlin 5 .

[@TalalipopMTB]

For the price, the giant talon 3 does have some better components than the marlin 5. I personally went for the marlin 5 but that was mainly because I just loved the look of it and was planning to upgrade parts anyways, but if you don't care about appearance as much the giant should be a better bang for your buck.

[@harry1717]

Talalipop MTB thank you 🙏

[@lime2575]

Can you do a video on the ragley Marley 2.0 and 1.0

[@Baksan_Dog1988]

I wonder how would this compare with the new specialized fused comp in terms of ride?? 🤔

[@JohnDrew_]

The new 2021 giant fathom just came out on the giant website. All new geometry!

[@jairomelendez-rozales853]

Do the norco brand

[@Sangram-IND]

Very nice bro. You explain very nice ♥️👍♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@TalalipopMTB]

Thanks!!

[@Vt1833]

Between surtour and giant fork on fanthom 2021 which one is better?

[@TalalipopMTB]

Giant fork should definitely be better!

[@xanaxhoe7039]

Hello do you think it's worth getting the fathom 29 1 instead of the 29 2 ? The 1 is 500$ more here in Canada ..fathom 29 2 is 1450$ fathom 29 1 is 1949$

[@TalalipopMTB]

Hmm the fathom 1 mainly just has some lighter and more durable parts, and does have a dropper post included. I personally feel like the fathom 2 would be fine for me, and I would just add a dropper post eventually, but if you want your bike to be lighter and perhaps last a bit longer then the fathom 1 is more worth it. It does also have some better brakes, but not sure how noticeable that would be either.

[@xanaxhoe7039]

@@TalalipopMTB thank you for the reply i do want it to last longer so maybe I'll stretch my budget

[@ashishniranjan555]

Hi.... Between Xcaliber 9 and Fathom 1, which one is better ? Which one would be faster ? Especially on bad city roads. And which one would be more comfortable? Will appreciate a quick response. If you could make a video comparing xcaliber 9 and fathom 1 would be really very helpful ...

[@TalalipopMTB]

The fathom has wider tires and a SRAM SX/NX drivetrain while the X-Caliber uses a mainly Shimano SLX drivetrain. The drivetrains are mainly personal preference here, but the fathom should also be lighter by a pound or so, though Giant doesn't release official weights. I feel like they would be comparable in speed since the X-Caliber also has the narrower tires, but the Giant may be more comfortable because of the wider tires that absorb more bumps.

[@ashishniranjan555]

Talalipop MTB Thanks a lot. By "Comfortable" I also meant the geometry and the saddle. Can you please guide accly.... Will be thankful....

[@TalalipopMTB]

@@ashishniranjan555 They have pretty similar geometry specifications; I know the saddle on the x-caliber isn't too comfortable haha but that's not too hard to switch out if you need to thankfully.

[@ashishniranjan555]

Talalipop MTB Thanks a lot...😊 Do you think a brooks b17 or a brooks swallow wouks be a good choice for a saddle on these bikes...

[@koukimonzta]

its nice to know that for 2021 theyre all boost

[@sept.m9458]

2021 model already available can you compare between the two models please... Thank you..

[@TalalipopMTB]

Where do you live? I haven't been able to find 2021 models of these bikes anywhere.

[@sept.m9458]

@@TalalipopMTB philippines..

[@khalidmahmud7968]

Make some comparison video on hybrid bokes

[@davidpayne8413]

what is a boke?

[@davidpayne8413]

I Have a Giant Fathom of 2017 vintage - All the so-called experts and experienced riders praise and bitch about various bikes - The difference between a 1 and 2 model and different years etc. - Chaps it's the components that make the difference. My Fathom frame is no different from a fathom 2 to a fathom 1 - All manufacturers knock out bikes cheaper with cheaper components, wake up chaps! - I love the frame geometry etc. - I upgraded to Shimano XT and a narrow wide tooth chain ring, never a chain drop! now I have an awesome bike! you get what you pay for! - I'm a Brit expat living in the Philippines, my Fathom is perfect for the condition of the roads here in the sticks, BTW I'm 71 and don't ride competitively; it’s my only transport, exercise and fun!

[@timestamps8576]

2021 norco storm pls

[@5wisher5weet]

The Giants look better this year than last but the Trek bikes look better in general

[@koukimonzta]

Trek is made by Giant hahaha

[@Mitchell_alan14]

But Trek is made in China

[@davidpayne8413]

Books and covers duh!

[@dominicbarron1055]

Can you make a video about Rocky Mountain hardtails please

[@christopherjaydomingo9863]

Hi can you make videos of gravel bikes also from different brands thanks😁

[@eliudemilioescobedovelazqu705]

Good video.

[@TalalipopMTB]

Glad you liked it :)

[@avengethedeadtx]

Which would you prefer, a Roscoe 8 or fathom 27.5?

[@TalalipopMTB]

That's a hard one. There is a bit of a price difference with the roscoe costing almost $300 more though, so it definitely has some nicer parts because of that. For my riding style I feel like I wouldn't need those upgrades, like the SRAM NX instead of the SX, but i'm not too sure. I prefer the look of the roscoe, but the fathom is a good enough bike for me I would think.

[@Gingerpele91]

Roscoe is more fun. I've rode both.

[@avengethedeadtx]

Steven Brideau , thanks. Been riding a 26” 15 inch stem Nashbar AT from like 2016. I’m in desperate need of an upgrade

[@Gingerpele91]

@@avengethedeadtx either bike is an upgrade. But Roscoe for me is overall better. Just more fun on trails.

[@AustinPetDetective]

These are not the 2021 models ?

[@TalalipopMTB]

Yeah the fathom line has not had any 2021 updates, at least not yet, so I figured I'd cover these while we wait.

[@sickmak90]

The 2021 Fathom is WAY different than the 2020. Boost thru and waaaaayyy nicer geo.

[@Lyl321]

Fathom 2 is definitely better than the roscoe. I am a roscoe owner and believe me. I wish i just save my money and wait for nukeproof scout

[@fhrusnssk]

For me treks the only way because i don't have the money for Giant or Specialized (marlin 5 for me)

[@TalalipopMTB]

Well all brands have bikes at around the same price point, but hey I got a marlin 5 too and love that bike so not a bad option :)

[@Jacob99174]

Giant!

[@TalalipopMTB]

Hahaha yes!

[@Chris-de2qc]

Fanthon 2 says XS but it's not available in the drop down lol

[@TalalipopMTB]

Oh yeah that was strange, I’m not entirely sure what’s up there but maybe a local giant bikes retailer or something would know :/

[@shaymtbrider7244]

2021 giant nailed fathom leaving trek 1000 miles behind