2020 Isaac Asimov Memorial Debate: Alien Life

[@igotzelda]

So happy we've still got the assimov debates! It seems like its been forever, we need multiple assimov debates per year, please Neil!

[@bootstrapperwilson7687]

Asimov. One s. Asimov. One s. Asimov. One s. Asimov. One s. Asimov. One s. Get it?

[@vikranttyagiRN]

Yes. You spoke what I was thinking

[@MartinJohnZ]

@@bootstrapperwilson7687 Of course you're right, but please, don't be an as about it.

[@mr.goldfish7473]

This is the best side of youtube. Great minds drawing from their vast experience to wrestle with the biggest questions we as humans have.

[@PimpDaddyDisco]

I hope you aren't referring to DeGrasse Tyson. He thinks he figured everything out decades ago and ignores any contradictory facts. He's a smug, close minded, asshole

[@triplez7313]

Agreed. These intellectual panel discussions are by far the best content KZbin has to offer. The polar opposite of KZbin shorts.

[@Smurphy62]

A year later and I'm still watching!

[@Jedi_Hush]

These debates are always the best.

[@ufotv-viral]

👏🏻👽

[@heresthethingyouguys]

This was fascinating! I've already watched it 3 times. Please make more of this!

[@AmericanMuseumofNaturalHistory]

If you haven't seen our previous Asimov debates, there's a whole playlist to dig into! kzbin.info/aero/PLrfcruGtplwGKzxDI_Ne06NlpOKt-yonZ

[@onlyrick]

This forum gives me a new appreciation for Mr. Tyson. He really handles the moderating well while contributing to the discussion. I'll be looking at all of these. Thanks all.

[@isidoreaerys8745]

Isn’t he great? Shows a side of him I never appreciated during his tv appearances.

[@drewg4323]

They are all worth looking at

[@douglasraddi1428]

He interrupts way too much. He doesn't know when to stop talking

[@triplez7313]

I really can't stand Neil but I am very interested in a lot of the topics he discusses so I tolerate him. He's not an idiot by any means. The best way I can describe it is I don't like his persona. Seems very egotistical at times like he has to be the smartest person in the room. Constantly interrupts often right when someone is concluding their point to ask a question that prevents us from getting a full understanding

[@JordiSarda]

Why a video with Neil deGrasse Tyson and Isaac Asimov at the same time has only 500 likes. Unacceptable!!!

[@gobstoppa1633]

its because its crap.

[@MarkSeibold]

I just added my 'like', and it looks like another 1.4K thumbs up clicks have been tapped since you wrote your message originally above. I found this accidentally, while watching Isaac Asimov give about a half hour talk on his early days of science fiction writing, [which was recorded in the 1970s.] That video brought me then to this video. I now have just learned to see that they have these yearly talks on Asimov, as a dozen or so years now streamed down the page, and listed them year by year, so I picked the most recent one here and I'll work my way back over the years.

[@fugate7822]

So glad to find out they decided to do this online!! Such a legendary tradition

[@nathanmoore1893]

Many thanks for putting subtitles on!

[@Azaroski]

I have been patiently waiting for the new panel debate!

[@hans-olofsvensson1195]

If it wasn't because Seth is so funny, I wouldn't be watching my 768th Is There Life in the Universe? video. But here we are.

[@zapfanzapfan]

Yepp, he's the reason to watch.

[@MysticHeather]

He really is funny

[@SoundwaveSurfing]

He looks like Richard Dawkins lite.

[@davidb154]

And we're back!

[@ufotv-viral]

👽👍,.

[@112233JORDAN]

Nice, I was watching these months ago and was hoping these would continue. I think these types of discussions/debates should be far more widespread

[@jonni2317]

This conversation is just delightful!

[@sd-xx8oi]

s. d. ​finally a new episode after so many months 🙂

[@robertronning7016]

Yup

[@robertronning7016]

You're in a simulation right now buddy Bob the Creator.

[@kylesundell1554]

You know a topic like this will be owsome.These types of topics/ debates are always the best.

[@RazbaqueDirge]

The long wait is finally nearly over! 8D>

[@alzaresh]

I love these "debates". Thank you for doing it over the years.

[@alextischer2008]

These types of discussions make me excited for the future. Amazing job everyone here, intellectual endeavors seem to take a backseat these days to political rambling. These are so refreshing.

[@richardnone5644]

a fantastic place as a young man living on long island we took field trips to the planetarium it very inspiring place . WE ARE NOT ALONE

[@raphaelklaussen1951]

In all probability, we are totally alone, at least in our galaxy. The barriers to the emergence of life are incredibly difficult to overcome.

[@joekey8464]

Extraterrestrials also began from the primordial soup ? and from the billions of specie that had evolve, from their world, one or more alien species attained consciousness.

[@abetterroad6169]

@@raphaelklaussen1951 I'm curious not confronting...if we are alone who or what is zipping around our battleships which they have on radar and video of sorts

[@micheadam3795]

Of course we are not alone. One question that must be asked is why the huge of amount of distance to discourage of from visiting other stars? If we alone, there would not be any need for such humongous distance. There is actually a planet on the southern sky where there are humans but that planet is obscured by the inter planetary dust and gas . We are unable to se it even with our telescope and radio astronomer instrument. . I said in our back yard.

[@AlohaMilton]

If our internal biome affects our mood, are we individual organisms that are alive or a thinking community of various lifeforms? If we cannot survive without many other life forms, what is alive? Individuals or the system? Maybe we are just part of a living planet, not actually life ourselves, in the eyes of other planets at least...

[@codyramseur]

@Joe M. It makes sense to me. I’ve had the same idea for years. You have microbes in your gut that without them you’d have a much shorter lifespan. You don’t produce the oxygen you need to survive so trees and algae are a functioning part of our collective respiratory system. Just sayin it can be a useful thought experiment to contemplate what you consider your “self.”

[@mattjack3983]

"Individuals or the system.." I'd say that we are Individuals who are apart of the system. We cannot survive without the "system", so we must be apart of it if we are to exist. But the system does not need us for its own existence. Remove us from the system, and it will continue to exist and function without interruption, almost like we were never here at all. We need it, but it does not need us. So in that sense, I say that we retain our individualism while being apart of the system. I dont know, maybe that doesn't make any sense at all lol. Thats just my own worthless opinion on it that no one asked for🤷‍♂️

[@johnbro6261]

It is nice to see scientists addressing the existence of other intelligent life in the universe and enjoy each other's company in the process.

[@bennyflats522]

This was absolutely fascinating and wonderful!

[@kimfigueroa2914]

I AM SO EXCITED

[@kimfigueroa2914]

[@mexdal]

If life began as soon as the earths crust cooled down, then maybe the theory of panphysicism is a possibility. That life/consciousness exists at the very fundamental level and expresses itself and becomes more complex as soon as the right conditions arise. Who knows!

[@NobleNeon111]

When is Mr. Tyson doing the Isaac Asimov Memorial panel in person (offline)?

[@NobleNeon111]

Is it next year?

[@patanjalip2929]

So excited about this!!!!

[@ufotv-viral]

👋👽

[@brycetsawyer]

Always one of the best things on KZbin! Each year is just so entertaining and enlightening.

[@vitostan3134]

Loved every second of it. We need more of debates like this one. Standing 👏👏👏👏👏

[@igunashiodesu]

Discussion starts at 11:29.

[@kingeka1459]

Neil always go to carol when she raised her hand, but when Max does he rarely give him a chance....

[@parusudi1]

I can't get enough of you guys!!!!💖💖💖🧬🧬🧬

[@ericmichael2090]

This was a great panel and great topic. I hope to be able to attend in person one day!

[@AmericanMuseumofNaturalHistory]

We hope so, too! So glad you enjoyed.

[@brianhirt5027]

Best definition I have yet heard to define life as we observe it in all its states 'Life is chemistry with memory'.

[@heresthethingyouguys]

we don't know what life is, we don't know what intelligence is, what we've learned in the last 500 years?

[@teazrkarmah1828]

Have patiently been waiting years for this! I would just like to thank you all for your time and providing us all an opportunity to expand our horizons

[@loudny1]

When will the 2021 debate be ? will it be live ?

[@KITUS78]

Another great debate. Many thanks.

[@Walter-ol6gd]

Thanks for doing this again ... This is always a fun interesting conversation ... SO COOL YOU GUYS !! Never stop doing it !!

[@Flintknappingtips]

600 books! A bounty of original and collaborative achievement. What a legacy. And here we are to push on. And here we go.

[@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164]

I think I've read 10 of them so far.

[@potemkinification]

Thank you guys! :)

[@AmericanMuseumofNaturalHistory]

Our pleasure!

[@ToddHoff]

So a unique entity that couldn't make copies of itself wouldn't be life? Seems like it would be one of the most interesting kinds of life possible.

[@feliperamedeiros]

a sure thing we can assume about 'life': It's a property of our universe. Given the proper chance, 'life' will emerge and evolve.

[@drewg4323]

Emerge yes, evolve...debatable. It has been conceived that at some point an ecosystem can achieve such a symbiosis it essentially becomes "perfect" and life will no longer evolve because it doesn't need to, though it will continue to exist

[@feliperamedeiros]

@@drewg4323 Well, I think evolution its tied to replication, and as no such 'perfect' conditions existis in our universe, evolution is only a natural course.

[@drewg4323]

@@feliperamedeiros Evolution has nothing to do with replication...Evolving is literally the opposite of replicating. Also a) you have no idea if this world exists in our universe, and b) Just because it isn't in the observable universe doesn't mean it's objectively false. Based on all science today...yes, an ecosystem can absolutely reach a point where evolution is no longer necessary, and life would indeed just become replication.

[@feliperamedeiros]

@@drewg4323 ok man chill out ;D

[@drewg4323]

@@feliperamedeiros ...Huh? I am chill, this is a basic scientific discussion... Ugh, humans...🤦

[@ethan-scott]

So thrilled to see this happening this year! An intellectual light in the darkness. Wonderful as always. Thank you for providing this platform!

[@wuhanfishmonger]

What a wait, after 30yrs the #memorialdebate returns!

[@madragous]

How do I watch the ones not on KZbin? And how do I get updates on when they are expected to record the next one?

[@AmericanMuseumofNaturalHistory]

Hi there! All past debates that were recorded are available on KZbin. You can see the full playlist here: kzbin.info/aero/PLrfcruGtplwGKzxDI_Ne06NlpOKt-yonZ. If you're subscribed to our channel and turn on notifications, you should get word when future debates are available. (We don't yet have a date for 2021.)

[@madragous]

@@AmericanMuseumofNaturalHistory okay okay thank you I already found the playlist and actually currently listening to them I’m at 2016 but I saw it didn’t go before 2011 that’s why I asked but I’m already subscribed waiting patiently for the next debate.

[@seas1392]

Wonderful just far to short... More plz

[@vitostan3134]

I think we need to appreciate the question that we ask when we ask if there's life. Because I think what everyone wants to know is if there's intelligent life and that's a whole different question. This an awesome debate 👏

[@radar0412]

Neil should take a page from journalists. When the Panel challenged Max's assertions, Neil didn't give Max a chance to defend himself. That's not how you conduct a real debate.

[@2CSST2]

Yes although the talk was overall very enjoyable, that was a little annoying and ruined it a bit for me. Especially that Max clearly indicated he had something to say in return, and at some point Neil even said "we'll get back to this in a bit" and never actually does...

[@MelliaBoomBot]

omg ive been looking for this for the last year or two...woopee!

[@EpicKillstreak]

Thank you for posting this, I missed it very much last year. I could listen to those kind of discussions for hours

[@EpicKillstreak]

@Joe M. "2020 Isaac Asimov Memorial Debate: Alien Life"

[@BrockSamson-i1i]

@1:21:44 the best way to explore the universe would definitely be to seed it. also an efficient way of long distance space travel.

[@merytale]

I can't believe I'm 10 months late to see this considering I've binge watched the entire series back in 2019

[@ONEEileenColts]

Best avent guard book on the subject is Edgar Mitchell's "Beyond UFOs: the science of consciousness and contact with non-human intelligence volume 1" - written by scientists interviewing thousands of contactees to findvtge commonalities.

[@jodyknight]

It really bugs me that these so called scientists have sold their inquiring minds to the powers that be and just avoid the topic of the aliens that are already here as exposed by many other scientists and people who have either seen or have seen the evidence of aliens and who will not be silenced by those that wish to control what we know. Many intelligent and credible people have now come forward with their experiences with alien technology and/or alien life forms so please let's not keep pretending that they don't exist because it's insulting to our intellect and shirks our responsibility to tell the truth. We could be using all kinds of advanced technology that would help us to stop damaging this planet but because they want to sell us stuff for as long as possible so they get richer we have lies shoved down our throats and some of our smartest people are bullied into silence so they tow the BS line.

[@brookestephen]

thank you thank you thank you! Since my community college & university days, it's difficult to get my fix for intelligent discussion! My major in philosophy instructs me that a definition of life isn't a reasonable beginning, after only investigating the life on one planet, and my computer science minor instructs me that the first important step from "pre-life" chemistry to life is "encapsulation" to create the principle of homeostasis, and my minor in mathematics tells me that life on different planets could simply be similar to mathematical fields - completely dependent on available chemistry.

[@charlesmcdowell9436]

Thanks everybody for this.

[@WorldAquariumSingapore]

will there be an alien disclosure soon?

[@googletoldme2292]

Please don't send carol on the first contact mission lmao.

[@MichelleAllergy]

I’m surprised they didn’t mention K-pax near the end. Such an underrated alien movie with no real depiction of what an alien ought to look like.

[@feliperamedeiros]

seeing humans discussing complex matters in a civilized way, that's alien to me

[@PhumlaniNxumalo]

I'm here just appreciating the fact that as a common person get to hear scholars, experts of their fields talk about ideas that would have never passed my mind in a lifetime if the conditions we as was before where such knowledge was available only to the aristocrats.

[@Fealnographs1]

Thank you to the host and panel

[@عللیگرایی]

سلام به خدمت همه استادان به خدمت شما برنامه گدار محترم

[@quantumdave1592]

Carol goes off...Nathalie covers mouth and Seth smirks:)

[@myllamaMan]

Ask Max a question!!!!

[@yz250moto7]

Wonder if Neil is going to host havent seen him around much

[@davidcorbin4462]

www.amnh.org/calendar/alien-life-asimov-debate Shows Neil as the host and moderator

[@brucegelman5582]

Max hits the nail on the head.We need to behave like we are the highest intelligence in the universe even if someday we find more advanced civilizations in the future before we destroy ourselves.

[@jimmyholloway8527]

Amazing that the absence of an audience doesn't seem to crimp their discourse. In years past I recall polite chuckling from the gallery but these pros can keep slinging ideas and slipping into and through each other's fields despite not only having no crowd but also each sitting in separate locations. I miss having good conversations. Love my dog and all but she isn't much of a conversationalist.

[@bivens3ify]

I am fascinated by this conversation while watching this on my new galaxy Z Fold 2 phone in tablet mode.

[@DaveJLin]

They should have taken questions from viewers like they usually do in the Q&A half of the debate

[@thomasgraham5842]

pick up a stone anywhere on this planet and you will find life in many, many different forms , from the top of the tallest mountains to the deapths of the oceans , life always finds a way and so it goes for the univearse .

[@rogerdodger5886]

I Always look forward to these talks Thank for sharing your time .

[@scienceexplains302]

We shouldn’t be surprised if most life in the universe has strong similarities to that of Earth: our life is based on carbon, which is the best molecular maker. We are made of the most common molecules.

[@HexxuSz]

The one we know of

[@scienceexplains302]

უწმინდური მამაო ღორმენ Imam talking about carbon, which is the same across the universe, and the abundance of certain molecules across the universe.

[@HexxuSz]

@@scienceexplains302 yes but we do not know if there is any better than carbon i get your point

[@HexxuSz]

@20707523 yes of course... of the things we know of

[@scienceexplains302]

HAL 9000 Good point, but then we would be less likely to find life on distant vaporous planets and I would guess that on planets like Venus, life is far less likely to advance.

[@DanceBeforeTheStorm_]

My crush on Max Tegmark just grew even stronger ♥

[@royneder351]

Max is right. If you define all the necessary factors for the evolution of intelligent life, calculate their individual probabilities and find the odds of them all happening on one planet, the universe is not big enough for more than one intelligent lifeform.

[@zamirmohyedin93]

Very enlightening! I learn a lot of new things about life. Thank you!

[@jnrmack]

stars are alive but so are planets.

[@Kingofgrowers]

My word ! I am born 1959 and had family that worked on the lunar excursion module that went to the moon. I have always been inquisitive , often found in the library reference section (Google in the 60s and 70s when I was a lad ) if I was cutting classes. Classes bored me , the reference section ... now there were answers and questions yet to form ! These panelists and Neil are so driven , they are accomplished and still pushing ! I can only dream of that fire driven quest they have , and perhaps I too had ... once. Must visit 200 central Park West !

[@FrogInPot]

"Silicone life coughing sand", ha ha, golden

[@ottoalseely3609]

Hi guys ex guest by the way,y can't we have these discussions about saving the planet. And start right away shuttting big polluters down!🤖

[@MrBoDiggety]

Never gonna happen. $$$ owns politicians

[@victormkhaliphi2778]

We really appreciate the IAM Debates, and the technology of video conferencing. But, hey, nothing beats live sessions, with all Neil's humour!!!!! Damn Covid!!!!

[@shanefanon]

Where is the 2021 debate ?

[@PracticalContrarian]

"There is a single light of science, and to brighten it anywhere is to brighten it everywhere" - Isaac Asimov. .

[@raunaqsingh2905]

Vera is such a legend! Loved the way she explained concepts and her arguments! Would've made a great teacher. Big kudos

[@steffybabes]

Each generation thinks they have the basics wrapped up and just details are needed to fill in a few pieces. But that’s what the ancient Greeks thought also. They couldn’t dream of what we know. And we must look ahead the same distance and imagine things of which we can’t even dream.

[@draghicigheorghe3800]

Just find out: life is chaos . Intelligence is order, confinement, symmetry, repetition... . (life in a box: life with intelligence)

[@garyperkovac1002]

Intersting and very diverse panel. Thanks Neil in bringing these folks together. What really caught my interest was Max Tagmark who started to talk about artificial intelligence as an extension of life. Unfortunately, after Carols reaction to Mr. Tagman's thoughts, Neil took the discussion in another direction before Max could fully respond. Oh well. I would have love to hear. Then at the end, when favorite movies were on the table, interesting films were mentioned. However, I'm surprised that no one thought of the Spielberg/Kubrick film "A.I." which took the idea and implication of artificial intelligence a step further. The film challenged me to think... "What is (intelligent) life, actually?"

[@boatbrokerpro1323]

Excellent open discussion

[@username-iz6el]

What happened to the 2021 debate?

[@grimmertwin2148]

Got sucked into the great simulation matrix vortex and wasn't rebooted properly Why? It was discovered that all the answers to life, meaning and the universe was discovered We are not allowed to know Apparently World Party Party for global restoration C-Anon

[@mitchbrook4112]

Max's intro included him telling the world he married someone illegally in the country

[@zapfanzapfan]

1:25:25 The most important question :-) And shout out to the Horta!

[@capn82]

Love Neil, but he could do without the explanation each year. Most folks are long time listeners and the rest are intelligent enough to figure it out.

[@primechoice3917]

Was there a 2019 debate?

[@AmericanMuseumofNaturalHistory]

Hi and thanks for asking! No, there was not a 2019 debate. You can watch all the previous Asimov debates here: kzbin.info/aero/PLrfcruGtplwGKzxDI_Ne06NlpOKt-yonZ

[@richardbello5732]

WHO AND WHAT LIVES IN THE UNIVERSE There is much life in the universe and it's not what you think. You can't even imagine how many life forms are in the universe and they are all thousands of years more intelligent than you humans. There are giant animal and insect beings who are counterparts of the very animals and insects you know and are familiar with on earth. But they are thousands to millions of years more intelligent than you humans can even imagine. Some are good but more than most are very evil and very bad creatures monster animals and insects and parasites, they are all predators. The pitch black dark universe is actually a prison and planets are dungeons in other words you are all in Hell. All of the beautiful creations and animals are a deception to make you believe there is an incredible god who is full of love and compassion for your lives and all he/she created, but unfortunately nothing can be further from the truth. Humans are attracted by beauty and aren't even aware of what is actually in a beautiful human animal body, as some have bad spirits in them and maybe soulless, and are a part of the deception. Somehow those who have souls were also thrown out of the light into darkness just like the fallen ones, the fallen angels, Lucifer etc. What have we done to deserve such a fate ? I believe we, our souls consciousness were captured, caught in traps because we may have gotten too close with curiosity to this evil pitch black dark universe. More than most of us couldn't be as evil as they are to warrant our being here. And I doubt very much that soul consciousness agreed to be here unless souls were tricked into or deceived into or trapped into, or forced into being here. There is a great void between the real light and this darkness and the false light of this darkness we are all in and I call it the great light exspance where I believe real spirit soul consciousness was really created and it is some of us who were not created here but somewhere else. No one would come into a Hell voluntarily, though few have, more than most of us wouldn't. There are many different races of humans here because they are created by different alien groups. There are other animal human alien beings who are many thousands of years ahead of us but are helpless to help any of us. There are many animal humans who have no conscience, no consciousness and are soulless drones who don't even know what they are, believing they are just as human as those who have soul consciousness, they outnumber those who have souls. So you are in a pitch black dark universe and earth soul consciousness trap and you better find your way out otherwise you will be here for an eternity, many millions of years. No one is going to save you not Jesus Buddha or Krishna you must save yourselves.

[@tumenodnuud4101]

Hello from Mongolia!!!

[@madragous]

So the properties of a living thing vs a non living thing are obviously different, but what happens to the quantum realm of a being that’s dying or has recently died and is there a difference between dying or recently dead to something that has been dead for a while? Do the subatomic particles react to death? Do the operate the same way? Does your particle die with you?

[@rajaa.i9713]

Great alien movie besides what is mentioned in this video in my opinion would be Life (2017) and Prometheus.

[@ThatUFOShowUFOBusters]

You still talking

[@covenawhite4855]

Do you think RNA would be more important than RNA. RNA acts like both a Protein and DNA. With RNA holding Genetic Data while interacting with Proteins and being an enzyme for chemical reaction. DNA=Deoxy Nucleic Acid RNA=Riboxy Nucleic Acid

[@macrossfaltenmeyer1118]

Amazing discussion.Intelect of those people is outstanding.I would love to meet those people in person.Those Asimov Memorial debates are all S klasse.HUGE THUMBS UP,keep up the good work !