Alien Life: Will We Know It When We See It?

What are scientists looking for when searching for alien life? A lot, it turns out: the search for extraterrestrials requires the help from astronomers, planetary scientists, chemists, computer scientists, and geneticists, just to name a few. But are we barking up the wrong carbon-based tree? Could alien life develop in ways we haven't dreamed of here on Earth? Hear Paul Davies, Sara Seager, Jack Szostak, and other experts give updates on the search for life outside our planet in "Alien Life: Will We Know It When We See It?" part of the Big Ideas series at the 2014 World Science Festival.
This program is part of the Big Ideas Series, made possible with support from the John Templeton Foundation.
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Original Program Date: May 31, 2014
Host: John Hockenberry
Participants: Jack W. Szostak, Paul Davies, Sara Seager, Dimitar Sasselov
Carl Sagan and the future of finding alien life. 00:00
John Hockenberry's Introduction. 2:23
Participant Introductions. 5:45
How close are we to finding aliens? 6:48
How can you detect exoplanets that far away? 10:03
Kepler 186 system. 14:49
What are the tools you use to find Exoplanets? 18:00
Detecting beer drinkers at a football game. 24:18
What are we looking for on the microbial level? 30:05
What starts life on any planet? 36:04
Who will we call when aliens land on earth? 41:28
Processing in analog and digital with a two denominational cellular optometer. 49:30
The "awakening" of extraterrestrial life from the Vatican. 54:00
How we may have cheated to form life from other planets? 56:50
If we look for life where water is located are we ignoring life everywhere else? 1:04:54
Can you elaborate on the possibility life on ancient mars? 1:08:39
What are the new tools coming online today? 1:11:20
What is the direct imaging technique? 1:14:50
Testing the pedals on a space telescope. 1:21:00
The conditions on earth that we need for life elsewhere. 1:24:32
Communication basics from extremophiles. 1:28:05

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[@chrisstanley81]

World Science Festival I'm interested.

[@thekaiser4333]

Oxygen? Bah! That's no sign of life. Look for Plutonium. It doesn't occur naturally. So if you detect Plutonium on an exoplanet, somebody must have made it. Obviously, life is more than the sum of parts.

[@williamsolomon602]

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[@MrBlue-km8qv]

Please cut the videos to 5 minute chunks and i can translate English to Japanese. i once had a student ask me to translate a speech into English for him on UFO propulsion systems. Admittedly it was over my head. i had only been an Alt for 3 years at the time. i think they use nuclear fusion. that would explain the radiation at Travis Walton incident.

[@AlexReed_]

I'm know hindi

[@markcollins9705]

I hope they find life before I'm deleted. I've been waiting since I was five and today I'm Fifty.

[@tofuterror5193]

You will be one of the few people who discovers it.

[@fidziek]

I'm with you, M.C. ! Greetings.

[@dougeagleton8814]

10-40 years she said so no problem. Life expectancy is on the rise. 👍. Hello 👽👽👽

[@lukeperry6903]

Im 38 and been waiting since 5 i home we get a landing in the center of time square so there's no denying

[@theklaus7436]

Mark Collins sorry but distance and time ( which are the same ) has to solve FTL or dimensions jump) or forget any encounter. Made a calculation for a humanity 150000 years and then the age of the first planet which had intelligent life. Here on earth only one spices made into space. Sorry the numbers are nearly so little for encounter an alien ship, that drakes equation and Fermi the known paradox makes me severely sceptical ever to encounter intelligence, not circumstantial evidence because the atmosphere will change because of exhaustion etc. So far nothing. But life yes , alien encounter is highly unlikely. And I hope I’m so wrong. Information can’t be faster than light, and the expansion of the universe is beyond light speed. So these galaxies are moving away from us beyond the speed of light . ( the local observer )

[@kevinsturges6957]

It’s people like this that make me love KZbin.

[@Factory_reset007]

I love that lady when she said we’re gonna build large telescopes and here I’m waiting for WEBBS telescope to take off 🦋

[@MikeyD8716]

Just over a month away.

[@johnedward3404]

**I'm encouraged by the number of people who are viewing this information!!!!!! Maybe,, just maybe, this will begin to raise ,the level of consciousness,,, on our planet!!!!!**

[@lemurdreamur9257]

I'm from the future. Webb has launched and so far everything going to plan :)

[@shalondacoleman4652]

@@lemurdreamur9257 what year are you from, or do we still use this calendar to measure time?

[@prabkunvar10]

@@ThatGuy-kz3fx almost in L2 now

[@stephenlupoli]

Another question is: when are they? Time is so vast many civilizations could have come and gone and not ever encounter one another.

[@richardbennett4365]

We don't even know what makes a planet "habitable" other than the one example we know about. There could be lots of habitable planets that are in no way similar to earth.

[@paulwagner8638]

+Richard BENNETT true enough, so it depends what we mean when we say "habitable". It can mean "habitable to us" but can also mean "habitable to some form of life", e.g. if we find microbes deep under the surface in the moons of Jupiter would we say such a celestial body is habitable? Of more interest is what makes a planet habitable for *intelligent* life (perhaps "like" us, perhaps not), and it seems this is: (a) the presence of simple life providing the initial biosphere / food chain, etc (b) evolution surviving through the various contingencies that any planet is subject to over time (c) some "special" evolutionary contingency that permits a body form capable of tool use to accelerate brain development beyond basic survival needs to abstract thought It may be that (a) and (b) are relatively common but (c) is not. Jury is still out. Anyway, the first thing to look for is a biosphere, indicated by presence of elements (perhaps oxygen) or other compounds that are contrary to normal chemical balances that seek highest entropy states. This would indicate presence of some "organizing influence" that uses energy to create order from disorder. This to me is the broadest definition of life. We can note that earth-like creatures are oxygen-breathing but oxygen does not occur naturally as a gas in high quantity. It is very reactive and will usually bond to form compounds - H2O and C2O being notable. Presence of high quantities of free oxygen in any atmosphere is likely to indicate presence of some form of life. The same applies to other possible chemistry. We can also note that terrestrial earth-like creatures have body forms strongly dictated by earth's gravity. It appears that earth is toward the "smaller" scale of planet size and there may well be more planets that are "middle" size - somewhere between size of earth and gas giants like Jupiter and Saturn. The body forms on higher gravitational planets are likely to be more stunted (perhaps less amenable to effective tool use). Even if such planets had suitable atmosphere our bodies would not be strong enough to cope normally. We would be quite paralyzed and forced to remain prone. So whilst I suspect life itself may be quite prevalent I also suspect life "like us" is rare. Evolution does not have specific direction and results may vary. This leads me to also suspect any alien intelligent life could be very threatening. We humans have a tendency to fight other humans due to simple cultural differences so imagine how we would treat a totally unrecognizable but highly intelligent life form with little in common except control over advanced technology. Such differences may be irreconcilable with survival of the species. Thankfully cosmology has an in-built protection - vastness - separation over space and time, so hopefully there should be enough room for galactic colonization to proceed without reverting to conflicts.

[@richardbennett4365]

Interesting reply. I will think about what you wrote. I do disagree that intelligent life must not be autotrophic.

[@paulwagner8638]

Richard BENNETT

[@mikearcher9390]

well it must have H2O as a liquid. hell i bet i could do a dozen others!

[@TheCryptoKeeper]

we were created in his image, maybe

[@ironlungthe3rd]

It's hotly debated that microbial life crash landed on earth inside meteors which kick-started growth, in which case we are all aliens, that at some point invaded from outer space.

[@JonHeckendorf]

I can attest to these facts. I've spent the last few days pulling "weeds" KNOWING they are many species of aliens who are taking over our planet. Nothing stops them. Nothing kills them. They only return: faster, more dangerous, and more virulent. Why wont our government and our scientists start working on this problem before it's too late?

[@pyro111100]

@@JonHeckendorf The reign of weeds is upon us, come, embrace our new overlords.

[@donking454]

@@pyro111100 the reign of weed be much better 😂

[@obiwanshinobi87]

That moment you go to bed and decide to check KZbin on your phone real quick and find a gem like this... Meh who needs sleep

[@EdwinHendraKusuma]

Once I read a short comic about an old scientist who made contact with an alien ship about to visit Earth. The aliens look exactly like big flies, and when they came to the old man's house they were immediately sprayed to death by his daughter. Before dying they sent transmission to their home planet that Earth is hostile to them.

[@ericgraham8150]

I loved watching Sera explain her projects, you can just see how absolutely passionate she is about her work. It was a bit cringe worthy to see the host keep interrupting her.

[@mamavswild]

Eric Leisy The host appears to be too cool for the subject and be condescending to the experts. He’s treating it like a joke.

[@crashfistfight8234]

Eric loves sera❓😘😆

[@ericgraham8150]

@@crashfistfight8234 Nuh uh I do not!

[@crashfistfight8234]

Eric loves Sera, Eric loves Sera 🎵🎶😘😍💘😆😜😉😀

[@robertlovelady8004]

I just caught a remark on Saturn that the planet has chemical lakes all planet in solar system explode micros into solar system switch eventually land somewhere those hold life

[@LostAnFound]

The remote sensing technology is amazing. That bottle of Goldschlager really did make me shine at the game

[@Xander-pg5ly]

Lmao Goldschlager! 🤣 I didn't know anyone drank that stuff anymore haha it brings me back to high school thinking about that. I had a friend that drank so much of that stuff that he literally had golden speckled shits 🤣🤣🤣 lol

[@LostAnFound]

@@Xander-pg5ly Same here. Don’t know whether his shits gleamed with gold, but it was so strongly cinnamon that he could slam it in the bathroom and go right back to class.

[@dredank]

Wait wut lol

[@TheMartinNovotny]

I wish I had this much knowledge, inspiration and content when I was in elementary school. What a great time to be alive.

[@spaceman5734]

@@FluidLifeWays yep well done. I keep thinking Im the only one who sees this

[@CreativeRC2]

They will be looking for evidence of liquid water on the planets located in the habitable zones. It has been said that everywhere you find water on earth (a habitable zone planet) you find life.

[@eugenev.3973]

Yes, firstly is need to verify the extraterrestrial life (fossils - I think - from Mars - it is a biggest possibility); I have one sample in the my case🤭 - the suspect meteorite with primitive life signs...

[@tracyeaves4847]

There is emerging ancient narratives all around the world which suggest visitations. The sheer volume of writings and stories about creation is compelling in itself.

[@Jtizz111]

ah a fellow ancient astronaut theorist

[@oldowl4290]

This was a fantastic must-see lecture! Just seeing it now in May 2021. Don't miss this folks!

[@stevecarl8696]

Thanks

[@larsalfredhenrikstahlin8012]

It isn't a lecture, but I agree it was very rewarding and worth the time. Some data was a little outdated already, which is amazing and telling about how new these fields are in getting good data. Kepler has been like the only good source. Can't wait for JWST.

[@droidnick]

@@larsalfredhenrikstahlin8012 your wait is almost over

[@vectic5986]

April 2022

[@michael-4k4000]

It's great to see John out and about .....

[@sandersassen]

What a great discussion, enjoyed every minute of it!

[@crisbycris4012]

It is even a sin that nobody gives this woman a huge telescope. She can’t wait to discover more. I love Sarah.

[@CX-ru1ql]

You might want to check this out everything you know is a lie

[@simply_sara_69]

Do they ever even let her speak? I'm at 41:52 and this far... Not so much

[@GinoNL]

Better to give it too a capable man.

[@CX-ru1ql]

@@GinoNL I'm a female I'm so sick of these call Billy improved women they've destroyed the world. And then you have nutcases like this thinking women are are all. When we should be home raising property children instead of nutcases. I think the largest amount of nutcase concentration is in Canada

[@welingkartr416]

@@CX-ru1ql I am amazed that you deride her so. On the contrary, lady, you should be proud that women like her are at the forefront in many fields. Gender should not matter, must not matter, in many fields today.

[@johnstevens7557]

Has there been a more recent review or revisit of these ideas, questions, discoveries, and planned projects?

[@sdarksyth]

This revives my inquiries on the subject matter.

[@armiesep8710]

I studied astronomy in college, have found it very interesting 🤔. Now these days I enjoy hearing & watching the discoveries, that are made. Now with the new Kepler we're learning more & more.

[@frontrowdota4696]

Dimitar is probably the chillest scientist I have ever seen.

[@user-rd6vf7xk1x]

Jack Szostak does it for me personally!

[@zombierobotsheep]

1:00:48 I, for one, am quite excited about studying T&A..

[@ufologyandtheclouds9925]

Great Job and I Love the title! My Corundum is exactly that. When I am in this certain area and take pictures and videos of things while there, the photos reveal and render a different image than what I see when there. The area has activity covered in ufology history and is what the photo renders is that what's really there. it takes a couple of days to see all the change that has occurred when looking at the original. I recently revisited the area and is so weird that is like its there we just can't see it! but the camera does. this is the second time , or is it abnormal for this to occur....

[@ajoldskool23]

It’s easier to fool people then to convince them they been fooled. - Mark Twain

[@M4gl4d]

"We have this group of people, its international, but has no budget." "Oh, XCOM?"

[@teaburg]

The flower power is fantastic!

[@ericthorfinnson2074]

The life that exists in the deep around SMOKERS(VOLCANIC VENTS ) Appears

[@jonathanpope81]

Great host and interesting speakers. Thanks.🖖

[@debramoss2267]

It is arrogant to fit other beings into the paradigm we hold and assume that the whole Universe is all about us.

[@bhoopalani7256]

Sara Seager just reminds me of Ellie Arroway. In Every one of her videos, you can see how excited she is about her research.

[@b.g.5869]

Really? How excited is she? Be specific.

[@princessmonicakhaira]

Mark reminded me of Phillip

[@princessmonicakhaira]

@@b.g.5869 visual component express smiling

[@bhoopalani7256]

@@b.g.5869 specific? Sorry buddy. I gotta life. Can't spend an eon explaining everything in detail. People who have seen the movie and every one of Sara's videos may understand or disagree. But am not willing to explain myself any further.

[@bhoopalani7256]

@@princessmonicakhaira I don't remember who's Philip..

[@debrajames6954]

😯 wow, I really enjoyed this discussion Thank you Amen 🙏🏾

[@marcorodrigues8303]

sim ele e enjuado . and em maria enjuada . e certo . que o uso da ciencia nos leva aos misterios e fatos ocultos . se eu uso deste meio de fato tem de por e impactar . outros meios em ciencia . dentro da corrupção . que más politicos usa em seus interesse . particulares . o uso da ciencia em vaccines . que eles politicos vem usando . e chips . isso e um fato . real

[@joeanderson444]

Aliens live with us here on earth in a parallel dimension. Sometimes the 4th dimension reveals itself and we chalk it up as a ghost or spirit haunting us!

[@danswantarot4946]

I believe this too

[@rockchaney3209]

It's true I'm an alien from earth

[@FirespearOfficial]

If distance affects the way we see visible light, for instance super far stars looking visibly red due to it being so far, how would that affect our ability to actually know what gases make up a planet’s atmosphere?

[@kevinhenderson5520]

That's a good question?? ... I think that other elements emit rays or some forms of their presence from those stars and they can detect their spectrums.. like a barcode.

[@kevinhenderson5520]

My thing is, the universe acts kinda like a camera.. if I takes millions of years for that light to reach us, how do we if a lot of that stuff is still there or in it's original state.

[@suyapajimenez516]

What a magnificent panel of experts. I visit this channel to enrich my brain nevertheless it’s far from my education. But all the guests to explain and expand information about the topic were so knowledgeable that was very enlightening and encouraging over the possibility than not far from now we’ll know more about our existence and also hope for its future. TVM

[@U4Eye]

I think they are bullshitting and you dummies are too naive and actually believe them

[@wootle]

@@U4Eye Weak troll attempt. Try again.

[@earthcat]

Dammit Jim, I'm a cosmetologist, not a cosmologist!!

[@RUN_IT_UP_]

"Experts"

[@_hkbfinn]

Its frightening to see what damage control can really do when the media put out thier agenda like this..people who say they've a brain believing in aliens planets and outer space..dumb the fxck on 😫😭

[@macmosley7036]

cant wait for the James Webb telescope to launch October !! 🤩🤩🤩

[@ianmangham4570]

Awesome scope

[@1950Chimaera]

How can a telescope launch a month...? It makes no sense.

[@ianmangham4570]

@@1950Chimaera What?

[@Machistmo]

@@1950Chimaera it just can

[@winstonsmith6204]

@@1950Chimaera some one has been taking their daily dose of kush

[@10kmilesy]

I was planning to sleep to this lecture, but ended up listening to the entire thing

[@damodaraomalley3974]

It would give our civilization a big boost in consciousness if these types of people went through a guided heavy dose of the sacred psychedelics and look within.

[@joanneross3017]

True.. it would be good if sience and psycedelics would come together.

[@ramaraksha01]

Sorry some of us want to live in the REAL WORLD! Not in a fantasy drug-induced "world" where brain cells die

[@joanneross3017]

@@ramaraksha01 its been proven that psycedelics like mushrooms and DMT doesnt cause any damage to braincells.

[@ramaraksha01]

@@joanneross3017 A brain that believes in magic tooth fairy lands IS a damaged brain

[@armourggeddon]

@@ramaraksha01 you clearly are speaking from a place of ignorance. So, allow me to enlighten you. Lsd and mushrooms don’t make you hallucinate in a manner in which you see dragons and bowling turning into butterflies that fly away and then turn into gold coins and fall to the floor and blossom into flowers. That’s not a thing. These drugs altar how you see real world objects yes, but they don’t make you see wild new things. However, the hallucinogenic effect is not that which they would be after. These drugs also make you introspective and make portions of your brain communicate with other areas that don’t normal communicate at such a high level. On top of that, studies have shown lsd, mushrooms, and subsequently dmt, when micro dosed, promote neurogenesis. For the laymen, brain cells do sexy time. Don’t speak out of your ass and dismiss everything out right because you have some preconceived notion about the object/concept.

[@redhammer9910]

One person missing off the panel, someone with expertise in energy forms and a background in quantum physics. Now that would be a head spin.

[@Myron_X]

There are also missing my pastor! He has some theories!

[@lysergic4169]

@@Myron_X bro wtf are u talkin about a pastor for

[@Myron_X]

@@lysergic4169 the stories that these guys come up with are no different than the stories that religious leaders come up with! It's my contention that even the first religious leaders were also the first scientist and vice versa!

[@GozerTheGozerian]

@@Myron_X They're not stories, they're talking about observable characteristics of exoplanets and stars using orbital telescopes, custom-built software and analyzing the way and frequency with which starlight dims. Taking precise measurements to detect exoplanets is not the same as telling stories or speculating about life in the galaxy.

[@LukeMurphy-ih8ko]

Pppppppppplpp

[@varman001]

Carl Sagan was one of the best! We are fortunate that we had people like him!

[@darhfduutdzzaaswrtdgguihbz841]

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[@FantastyckplastycK]

+Ravi Muthali very well said

[@The0007laika]

And Robert Lazar ✌️

[@arkansaswookie]

@@The0007laika Cheers to Bob Lazar. I watched him on Joe Rogan's KZbin channel.

[@kaiwhatley2136]

@Darwin Man yes he did, , not many people seem to know,or just don't say, he was told something/brought in on something that changed he's thinking and attitude about what the public are told, why it change him , says he agrees with it or that was told not to speak publicly, about what he see and or told.

[@NefruSimons]

I loved the whole thing, but mostly the beutiful poetry at the end.

[@crazya3466]

Not bad,surprising to see qualified people's minds are opening up, and this is 4 yrs old... Thx very much 🖒

[@sheilajowilliams2739]

Maybe the question should be, "Did We Know It When We Saw It?"

[@psycronizer]

1:02.00 that old guy has got it wrong..he mentions life forms living in salt, because the salt can absorb moisture from the air, and he calls it deliquescence...well he's a not quite right there. The common salts that are from these dried up seas are mostly sodium chloride. These sea salts are not deliquescent, they are in fact just hygroscopic, meaning that they can absorb water vapor, but not to the point where they keep absorbing it and become a liquid , that is in fact the nature of a deliquescent substance, such as potassium hydroxide, Zinc chloride, ammonium acetate etc. Subtle but important difference.

[@williamwoolsey9806]

Could there be battles between species we dont know a thing about and why and they are both or more connected to our future somehow?

[@alejandrogodoy4696]

THANK U FOR THE KNOWLEDGE ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@chrisraines4655]

I agree the host seems full of himself but the panel is great.

[@henrymccarty5992]

Yeah, he is a jagoff.

[@reverendrv151]

Yeah, I saw Sara roll her eyes at him...

[@unnamedchannel1237]

@@reverendrv151 time stamp please...

[@reverendrv151]

@@unnamedchannel1237 I'd have to watch it again to get the TimeStamp; it happened at the end of her first talk when he said something smarty pants. It was a slight eye roll but it looked to me like it counted...

[@reverendrv151]

@@unnamedchannel1237 Watch between 29:30 and 30:30. It's after the Host makes fun of her weather analogy...

[@nastybastardatlive]

I've seen every star trek episode, so yeah, I think I would.

[@StareWell86]

No stop stupid

[@jgp7414]

I've seen every star wars episode, so yeah, I think I would.

[@ianmangham4570]

Krandock vmax Krandock, reen! 😃

[@arto9775]

You expected this to blow up didn't you?

[@ianmangham4570]

@@noaheinstein23 reen

[@PerceptiveAnarchist]

Great vid 👌🏻

[@grxhxmmm]

43:18 when he starts talking about how we will find out If we are not alone.. its super weird how much it's actually matching up with what's going on right now 🤯🤯🤯

[@lanceowens5902]

I saw a thing a couple years ago about there is a possibility we could have sent microbiology to Mars accidentally in the 70s on the Vikings missions

[@stonehaven2289]

We most likely sent it on purpose to see if it could survive..

[@metacarpitan]

god bless astronomers, it takes a lot of passion to spend whole nights inside an observatory looking at basically dots of light and whole days in front of a computer analysing data

[@charleshood9992]

I could never understand the life that is almost most definitly out there,obviously is more advanced by milleniums,that while we look for life ON other planets,no-one has even broached the possibility of life IN the planet's?

[@ciarraRizzuto9]

Charles Hood like in the anime Gurren Lagann, I’ve actually thought about that too and it would make sense if the surface of the planet was too hot or too cold but the inside was habitable for life

[@winterramos4527]

@@ciarraRizzuto9 great analogy

[@spenserwhite375]

Does anyone else see the similarity between Sara Seager and Jodi Foster’s character in “Contact”. She is obviously dedicated to the science and facts wherever it may lead…even if it’s nowhere.

[@kennethheimlich1823]

Great stuff

[@fnersch3367]

Talking technical to a scientifically inastute audience (and MC) is really challenging. They did a good job. Interesting stuff.

[@princessmonicakhaira]

Did you know that he does not need the chair all the time ?

[@lostballintallgrass1]

Look how cautious aliens have been in avoiding us. Sentient beings, that they are.

[@wevsitekilo9072]

Hopefully we're intelligent enough now to not act barbaric towards them if they are out there

[@Random2960]

@@wevsitekilo9072 Haha good one

[@PapaShongo25]

@@wevsitekilo9072 assuming they give us a choice

[@charistkylo]

Every other creatures in the multiverse is protected from ai bc of what happened to me

[@charistkylo]

@@wevsitekilo9072 oh you are. I came here from heaven and you all have tortured me for a time frame you won't believe

[@fastbow9]

Don’t know why but the most notable thing I got out of this is how interested the Vatican was to find out how close we are to CONTACT! I wonder what preparation they are making? Did they give a sigh of relief ! I would love to have been there!

[@mikemiller7357]

I loved the Warp 10 reference

[@marcushaffcon9060]

This whole thing with the guy in the wheel chair and all the smart people reminds me of something from xmen

[@daffidavit]

This response is what I would expect from a kid. I wrote something here earlier, but I only retracted it because your later response was slighter better.

[@ultramindcontrolrealzz8367]

Maybe but are you really listening or comprehending anything at all.m

[@drf8879]

@@daffidavit Your grammar is what I'd expect from a kid.

[@daffidavit]

@@drf8879 Thanks for the compliment grandpops.

[@44LillPuffin]

Well no cos the smartest person in xmen is in the wheel chair 🙄

[@carmenmorton8122]

The only thing is, all these people are trying to figure out The Breath of Life. Never going to figure out how to create it. The Breath of life, is life.

[@user-ek2fn3qg8w]

It comes from our Lord Jesus Christ. This is all a lie.

[@gabrielescaramuzzo]

@@user-ek2fn3qg8w lol

[@user-ek2fn3qg8w]

@Jesse Lewis I would prefer being a fool than to acquire the human version of intelligence. To our Creator? The intelligence of men is foolishness. Jesus will be coming soon, not the aliens. If they are the aliens, perhaps you should do some research into their true origin?. Thank you for the compliment.

[@Katz_Pajamas]

@@user-ek2fn3qg8w yuck

[@user-ek2fn3qg8w]

@@Katz_Pajamas Contempt prior to investigation is not a great way to live.

[@alocin110]

This is a very intellectual and inspiring discussion. We need more discussion like that to train our kids and grow up with this knowledge, pattern, and understanding of our universe. WSF is a great forum. Thank you for sharing.

[@curtcoller3632]

Yes indeed, including the subtitles! Very intellectual.

[@stuartmcmillam9214]

We LOVE YOU CARL..... we ALL love you sir.... True beauty is of the mind...

[@nottyma2572]

Finally we will know the truth. I dreamed about this as a child. Did anyone own/read the Time Life books Mysterious Creatures, Psychic Voyages, Transformations and etc.?

[@jaredthompson553]

Describe your dream?

[@MtnTow]

At 58:00 Mr Davis mentions only one known example of life from non life but actually, thats only 1 POSSIBLE example. Also, life can survive meteoric space rides but how the heck would it escape into the new environment without mechanical assistance?

[@mortalkomment8028]

Outstanding discussion! Loved it. But what can we do if the extraterrestrials force us to fight for Earthrealm's freedom in a martial arts tournament?

[@lengould9262]

Odds of them initiating a violent event being their move approach nearly zero.

[@thebraveonestudio836]

🤙

[@danielmarks7490]

"Oh Carl, not much has changed except the skies are basically teeming with life from who-knows-where!"

[@brucepaterson6961]

I think Fred Hoyle got it right: "The rules of evolution are universal so when we finally encounter alien intelligent life, either (1) it will be so like us we will be disappointed, or (2) it will be so different the debate will not be about is it intelligent but is it life." Because novels and movies always go for (1), he wrote a novel: "The Black Cloud" to illustrate option (2). It should be compulsory reading for anyone thinking about alien life/intelligence.

[@margueritearavena2256]

Hi Bruce. I just wrote above how frustrating this panel of people are. I've just written at tbe top here why I am.

[@TheNobleLoyalist]

The rules of evolution maybe the same but there are so many different factors that even if they are just 1% different could mean an entirely different civilization. To think that we are only that gorillas and apes are only 2% different than humans oh, so our 2% different look at what we have created. I truly believe that the bigger Factor will be consciousness and how far along or not along a species has become. For example if an alien life-form landed here today I do not expect that they would have any idea how to relate to us any more than we know how to relate to animals. The reason being we have egos imagine the species intelligent but void of ego they would be completely different

[@The0007laika]

The univers is alive and the earth is too. The universe is ancient, wise and has awareness, likewise the earth ❤️

[@mastertechnician3372]

Wisdom you are... No shit!

[@lotmaxparaison6386]

Liked it very much

[@neilnoon6936]

There is a red algea like substance which has surfaced into existence throughout india. It has been coming down in the rain. This lifeform is spreading rapidly. It is being studied currently and has many anomolies different from common existing algea we know of. It just appeared is what many were saying.. it begs the question..where did it come from?

[@jackcarter3944]

28:15 -- Wonderful to see Sara get so excited, talking about findings. I was just wondering why we don't see that often, if at all. After all, these folks are on the cutting edge of the most exciting science we're currently doing.

[@thatoneguy6233]

@Music & Whistle msk it's truly sad

[@uceee1]

I find her so fkn annoying .

[@adamforrest9538]

FLAT

[@saorihirai4492]

@@uceee1 Woah lol what? She spoke very nicely and was pretty pleasant to listen to

[@bettyleeist]

They have all kinds of theories about alien 👽 life.

[@bobaldo2339]

Our first actual space explorers, who will go "out there" searching for alien intelligences, will be androids designed to represent our species - not flesh and blood types. And the first "aliens" they will encounter (perhaps long after humanity has gone extinct, and earth has become a burned out cinder - perhaps much sooner) will almost certainly be other androids designed to represent some other intelligent life form that lives (or lived) on some other planet in some other part of the galaxy.

[@The_Farmish_One]

Liar

[@postdawn]

It’s always amazing to see how crunk we are, looking up.

[@ptrack666]

Look at the smile on his face, This is cracking me up, Clou to the nail. Too awesome. (Sirens wailing in the distance). Cool beans.

[@danielquill]

The moderator is brilliant, I love his use of humour and great questions that helps all the audience keep up. Fascinating discussion!

[@clivedonegan8543]

Sightings I think we have the wrong address so it will probably take the last one to be as we were just wondering what happened to you

[@clivedonegan8543]

Michelle and the family and family will appreciate

[@clivedonegan8543]

The last thing you can see in our lives and we can

[@clivedonegan8543]

Sightings I gcás duine do cheapadh amhlaidh do na daltaí ar a bhfuil a ainm ar ar ar tugadh deontas a fháil

[@danielquill]

@@clivedonegan8543 Hi, I think you may have added your message to the wrong thread as I presume it isn't for me :-)

[@orgbortondave6539]

Great discussion. I can listen to Sara for hours.

[@carriemason1646]

Really enjoyed this interview. Richard Dolan is such a cool guy!

[@robcrowson8587]

Didn't see him in this interview...Did i miss something?

[@theacaciamatrix1537]

Hell yea he is

[@stephanieyeshuaislife7236]

This video is so Clear ~

[@stephanieyeshuaislife7236]

I wonder what accounts for its clarity, in contrast to many other videos.

[@baileealligood7862]

There has been proof of aliens for a few decades. Turns out our first proof of aliens is ourselves becoming the aliens rocketing through space.

[@Insomble]

What?

[@baileealligood7862]

@@Insomble Terrestrial life, (aliens), are higher forms of life outside their environment. Humans have observed this. It was only themselves though; going into space, landing on the moon, sending alien craft and robots to Mars etc.....

[@U4Eye]

There are No Aliens as WE ARE ALL ALONE

[@baileealligood7862]

@@U4Eye You are an alien four eyes. I have aliens all around me. What are you talking about.

[@tohuto6409]

@@U4Eye yes. There are no aliens.

[@ASLUHLUHCE]

48:07 onwards (from Paul Davies) is very interesting. The colleague he mentions, Sara Imari Walker, has been on Sean Caroll's podcast

[@Giantist]

These scientists are amazing! Thank you for being so dedicated to your discipline, to help us understand our universe.

[@chrislecky710]

If quantum physics suggests a conscious observer is needed to break the wave function would this science also not suggest that there may be a way to detect for consciousness itself? as Without a conscious observer matter should be in wave function should it not? .

[@Andrew-vo9ev]

They are here ! and have been here for a long time! It's been recorded in many cultures around the world ! Thanks 👍

[@billybatson8657]

Yes, they will be flying in 40 foot tic tacs that can go from outer space to 3 feet above the ocean in less than 1 second.

[@chi8931]

The part around 43:00 minutes in where the SETI guy talks about "encountering weird things that have no natural explanation, will make us know we are not alone" was mad foreshadowing.

[@abualamkhan1817]

@@chi8931 mll I'm mm

[@abualamkhan1817]

Ok

[@Hartleymolly]

area 51?

[@jenniferthompson6079]

How do u know they won't travel in a space giraffes belly

[@mencken8]

If my favorite alien encounter story is valid, no way. “Roadside Picnic” by Arkady and Boris Strugatsky (can be downloaded as pdf)

[@pascalguerandel8181]

Sagan! He is irreplaceable!

[@davidarundel6187]

They meant to ask, "Would we recognise ET, if we saw one ? We already have alien lifeforms around us, when we chose to acknowledge them. ☺️ Namaste 🙏

[@chakkakon]

I was hoping to see this comment.

[@davidarundel6187]

@@chakkakon😊

[@davidarundel6187]

@Jesse Lewis open your 👀 and look.

[@margueritearavena2256]

Thank you David. I've just written at the top here about our extraterrestrial neighbours.

[@siddhunkarthik]

I was expecting this comment here.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

3:58 off the bat, and this may come up later, but i was watching a video by brian greene where he is talking about near light speed journeys with crews that expect those journeys to take a hundred, or perhaps hundreds of years, crewed by populations rather than a few. if that were to happen that crew would be on a one way trip, back on home planet the amount of time passing would mean likely their home civilisation would disappear, or disseminate at best, and if you sent out a hundred ships with a variety of journey times, those ships would be well out of sync with each other, what i'n getting at is that even if everywhere in the universe developed civilisations and sent them out on interstellar journeys, at lighr speeds, then everyone would be out of sync - perhaps none of the arrivals would occupy the same period in history, no one would be aware of anyone else because they occupy a different time line. maybe this is why we don't find evidence of life, they came and went, or they are still en route, but given the amount of "time" there is in the universe, we're just out of sync. and what i was going to say is, why planets? if you are a echnologically advanced civilisation capable of space travel, why would you live on a planet? okay search for "life" on other planets, but you won't find anything that has had space travel for any length of time.

[@Trey-ny7wh]

Huh? Lol u keep bringing up "time" as if it's a factor. It looks to me like they can travel through time, so time is irrelevant. It's kind of like you are making them sound like some dumb drunk driving aliens not in sync. I would have to disagree with this theory bc if they have the intelligence to defy the laws of physics, I think they wouldn't have a problem being in sync with each other.

[@durley2067]

Oh

[@dancm5929]

@@Trey-ny7wh Time is a key factor, im not sure if you know what time dilation is man. We can reach the relatively closest stars without "defying laws of physics" the theory is totally plausible we just don't have the technology and materials yet. Getting rid of time dilation is theoretically NOT posible by any means, traveling to stars which are not ridiculous light years distance IS.

[@teresahickey3021]

I believe they are here. Many many many years ago and many many years forward in time. I don’t remember his name but he is convinced he seen a space ship from the year 8100 and he thinks it was us sent back in time. Of course I’m sure it’s possible. Although they could be robots sent back in time

[@teresahickey3021]

@UCt4556LWXpERkN2KarToopg No, but I do keep up with David Paulidas and The CanAm missing project. People being plucked off of the side of a cliff, off their ropes, people who disappear where their footprints just stop in 4 feet of snow, 2 year old kid’s who goes missing for 5 hours and are then found 40 miles away in the middle of the woods with clean white socks, etc… people who just disappear from a hiking trail & then 6 hours later they find their boots and then 30 miles away they find them dead in the middle of a muddy river with clean white socks. No dog’s can ever find a trail from one spot to another. Hundreds of people who disappear from the National park’s and then they claim they don’t keep a list of people who go missing from the park’s which is a lie because they keep lists of fish that’s in their park’s, but not people!! No it’s definitely aliens taking people and the whole world knows it now thanks to David. Our government is slowly beginning to tell us the truth and in case you don’t know they already came forward and admitted that their ships the UFO’s are real

[@abuhurairah4994]

Please open the caption of this particular video because some exceptional people like me could easily access the information on this subject too.

[@smokeymacpot76]

amazing assets Sara

[@briangalloway4193]

Why look for life in space when we can't even understand each other? If we did find other civilizations, do we really think we could restrain ourselves from plundering & pillaging?

[@ihatealigators]

It's easy when it's physically impossible to interact in person. And any civilization we interacted with in person would be not because we found them but they found us - we'd havee to hope that the social structure required to become that advanced and survive long space trvael would have removed any tribal urges that would lead to fucking us up

[@paulwagner8638]

Homing in on the topic "will we know it when you see it?". If the history of life on earth is anything to go on, emergence of highly intelligent species took a long time, and if we can categorize humans in the last few hundred years as "technologically advanced" this is a mere cosmic blink in time. If other intelligent species arose elsewhere the probability is they did so many thousands or millions of years ago. That is, they would be vastly VASTLY more technologically advanced than us newbies. In other words, the chances that another species is "similar to us" is infinitesimally small - they will either be primitive life forms or vastly superior beings. SETI has failed to find any evidence of the latter, so we might assume, even if life is pervasive, the emergence of technologically advanced species is rare, but if they exist, they would certainly see us as primitive (in military terms it would be a no contest). They would also ensure we never evolve to be superior (the same way we would ensure chimpanzees never gained technological superiority over humans). Hence, if they exist at all, they will ALWAYS be our superiors. Are we prepared for that? Being alone has some benefits :)

[@jamesmcmanus]

+Paul Wagner We're only "advanced" compared to our own past. There's no reason to assume a linear "less" to "more" advanced path to technology in general. It depends on what resources are available, and the factors that shape the organism's perception of its world. A smart slime mold might develop fluidic computers long before building pyramids or starting fires.

[@paulwagner8638]

+James McManus sure...in no sense is progression limited to linear, Earth is a case in point where this has been punctuated and now could be considered exponential. Life has evolved for 3.5 billion years. There's no reason to assume that higher intelligence needs that long (or short). Imagine it took only 2.5 billion years so that this intelligent species had a billion year head start on advanced technology !!! Mind-boggling. But I would suggest that "less" to "more" more-or-less (excuse the pun) sums up what we mean by "advanced", i.e. from simple to complex (technology). And I think we can gauge "advanced technology" independently from our own past by using universal reference points, such as ability to apply technology by controlling the electromagnetic force (we have some capability), quantum mechanics (we are primitive), gravity (we are nowhere), and eventually bio-engineering and cosmic re-engineering to achieve control over the universe for our ongoing survival, At present we are a niche species occupying a tiny pond in the universe. We are adapted only for that habitat - our biology shaped by earth's physics (gravity, energy supply, etc), chemistry and biology (water, atmosphere and nutrients). This biosphere is a product of millions of years of organic life. Without life, earth's chemical composition would be vastly different and almost certainly lethal to an unprotected human. Hence our chances of finding another "earth" UNINHABITED are realistically zero. Only teeming diverse life can create the kind of biosphere we need . Of earth like rocks in space (i.e. no life) there may be many but they would be UNINHABITABLE without planetary re-engineering including creation of a biosphere. Big job on a far away rock. Of course life may be adapted to very different conditions and hence take a radically different form - ALIENS. This all leads back to my original point: - Worlds that are uninhabitable to humans can only contain no life, or quite alien life. We might hope these remain primitive as advanced aliens with very different biological needs will pose some threat. - Worlds that are inhabitable to humans must have biology. If any have achieved "advanced technology" they are likely to be vastly more advanced than us (a coincidence where we both reached the same point within few hundred, or even few thousand years of each other seems an infinitesimally small chance). - Some glimmer of hope is offered by intelligent life converging towards artificially engineered beings that are designed to adapt to a diverse range of conditions found in the universe. IMO this is the most likely path to "galactic societies"

[@rgibbs421]

+Paul Wagner I like your conclusion of artificially engineered life. I do not think we (life) can rule out the idea of our evolution from a biological stance to a mechanical one until we learn more. I also agree that SETIs lack of interesting discoveries are interesting in itself. SETI's reach is small though compared to what we have seen in Hubble an the VLT. I disagree with your use of probabilities of intelligent life being more advance though. Lack of evidence does not give us the ability to assert the contrary. Evidence of the contrary has to exists for us to assert it. There are simply two many unknowns at this point. Homo Sapiens have been around for 100,000 plus years. In light of how long what you or I would consider intelligence. You had some interesting comments though., thanks for your insights.

[@nikicarrie4071]

I don’t think they would stunt our advances evolutionary wise. They’ve been here before and still visit today . I think thrust wsnt us go advance. I do think they study us the way we do animals but they’re not malicious. They are more advanced emotionally than humans . Humans destroy everything. Our technology is laughable

[@spiralsun1]

It’s frustrating when people just think of one way. Space is not a waste. I don’t know where to begin: why don’t you consider life in forms not previously recognized? Life outside the universe which is perfectly logical and natural. Thanks for this. Life actually did start in an ocean, but not that ocean. I actually have answers to all the questions he asks around 43 minutes. They are automatically answered by the nature of the alien intelligence communication.

[@ramthian]

Great 👍

[@mrloop1530]

Meanwhile I'm just waiting for my spaceship to turn up and take me home

[@thatdutchguy2882]

You can opt for just walking the small distance back to your padded-room at the funny-farm, and there you go,.....your home..

[@brandonwright8184]

I thought Sera was actually a robot when she first walked out🤣 I’m high

[@onorg1]

what if we only see the truth, when we are high?.....wait, im high

[@_w.a.l.t]

Commenting from 2021 with the perseverance rover on Mars and the JWST prepping to launch

[@blazeww4275]

Do they factor red shift into spectroscopy... And how do they measure atmospheric composition when our best equipment can only see solar system sized features however many light years away? Like thats the resolution of the equipment that 'photographed" that black hole in that newer picture and even that's grainy with little detail compared to what's down on smaller levels like planets....

[@St.CrimsonTweets]

If the question is knowing life when it's seen I'm sure the answer is yes, recognizing all forms of life I'd think not.

[@Dodgevair]

Its critical that in order for the public to have any sort of trust in its elected officials, a Congressional Hearing needs to happen to ultimately address the 70+ year ongoing cover-up issue.

[@cyrus05w]

Miss you guys.