Great review. I like the fact you drop the draw length down and give us shorter draw length guys and gals a better understanding of the bows capabilities for us as well. Thank you!!
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrick. Hope it was helpful
@johnbasiglone12194 жыл бұрын
The carbon in a bow grip gets just as cold as an aluminum grip or riser. When you are in a blind or a tree stand, after a short time, a carbon bow will be just as cold as an aluminum bow, their sensible heat will be the same. It is just that the carbon bow is not as conductive as the aluminum bow. As the aluminum bow is a better conductor, it will transfer energy quicker from one source to another. Heat runs 'downhill' and what you are feeling(in the aluminum bow) is the more rapid heat transfer from your hand to the grip of the riser. That is my little daily lesson on thermodynamics.
@peterbuilttough34064 жыл бұрын
Have to say B.S on that your review on the carbon grip being just as cold.
@johnbasiglone12194 жыл бұрын
@@peterbuilttough3406 if you set a carbon grip down in a blind for an hour and don't touch it and you set an aluminum riser bow down in the blind for an hour and don't touch it where both are exposed to the same ambient temp for the same amount of time, both will have the same sensible temperature. The aluminum is just a better conductor and transfers the cold more rapidly. I wish I could bet you, I'd like a chance for some easy money.
@peterbuilttough34064 жыл бұрын
@@johnbasiglone1219 I have both aluminium bows and carbon. I've hunted out of a blind with both. Aluminium is always colder or hotter if in the sun. So yeah calling B.S. on your theory because its conductive or whatever scientific nonsense you're spreading
@johnbasiglone12194 жыл бұрын
@@peterbuilttough3406 It's not scientific nonsense, it's science. Call it B.S., call it what you want. But it is a fact. After a period of time, if both bows are in the same environment for a long enough period of time, they will reach the ambient temperature of the surrounding air mass. If you hit them with an IR imaging thermometer, they will be the same temp. But if you were to grab the aluminum riser it will be colder because it is a better conductor and transfers the heat out of your hand faster. I could go outside right now and take a temp off of the concrete and the iron manhole cover that is sitting on my patio and the temp of my firewood stack sitting right adjacent to them. In fact, I just did. The wood, the steel manhole cover and the fire wood all are right about 31 degrees Fahrenheit. Now to feel each item, the iron manhole cover feels significantly colder than the concrete and the concrete feels colder than the wood and relative to the concrete and the iron, the wood does not feel cold at all. But all three are the same, actual measured temp. The difference is because the iron is a better conductor and the wood is a better insulator. Like I said, it's science. It is easiest if you have an IR thermal imaging thermometer. Personally, as part of my job is doing heat-load measurements, I own about five IR imaging thermometers, a Fluke, a Fieldpiece, a couple Kleins and a Milwaukee. But at times I use a digital multimeter and a thermocouple and sometimes I use a multimeters and and IR with a standard digital thermometer. Go check it out for yourself. But if you try to take an IR temp off of a mirror like surface it is not as reliable, you have to have the correct emissivity factor programmed into your instrument.
@ViewIndepth4 жыл бұрын
@@peterbuilttough3406 lol
@Martin-gg1up4 жыл бұрын
Great review. Liked to see the bow with different draws. Couldn´t find anybody else doing that. Thanks for your great work. Outstanding!
@NashJohnson7744 жыл бұрын
100% agree
@GabrielaVillarrealRomo4 жыл бұрын
Well, I just found my new bow. Thanks!
@patrickjoy95514 жыл бұрын
I just wish PSE would put the LAS system on their flagship hunting bows. I see companies like Bowtech and Elite bringing forth "new" tech for simplicity of tuning when PSE has had it for a while now. Shimming isn't difficult but you need a press and it takes time. The new Mach1 is a definite refinement of previous Carbon Air though. I think it will do well for them. The Evolve cam system is the best for power distribution through different draw lengths out there. Its a winner for sure.
@taylorjohanson24324 жыл бұрын
Best reviews out there! Love the channel. Thanks for testing lower draw lengths as well.
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Taylor!
@gmatthewpaul11 ай бұрын
I have this exact bow in 80lb limbs…. 29 inch draw it is my favorite bow to date and I buy 2 new bows a year.
@KnightsoftheApex4 жыл бұрын
PSE has had some of the most underrated bows on the market the past few years. They even undersold and over performed on speed last year. A 70# Evolve was just as fast as my 75# Vertix despite the advertised IBO speeds.
@TheIngoBeck4 жыл бұрын
3 dislikes on the video... Bowtech, Matthews, and Elite? 👀
@nathanmohler42544 жыл бұрын
TheIngoBeck nope it’s Hoyt, Hoyt, and Hoyt. Lol
@TheIngoBeck4 жыл бұрын
@@nathanmohler4254 makes sense.
@MrBA8124 жыл бұрын
No I shoot mathews currently and I’v owned PSE I like several different brands I’v never shot a Hoyt before but I’m wanting to try one.
@jsloan04234 жыл бұрын
Been waiting to see a good review on this bow! Thank you!
@fatherandsonarchery73824 жыл бұрын
Hi there...great review as always! Just wondering if you’ll get a chance to review the Evo NXT 35 with the SE cams?
@landonboomsma25944 жыл бұрын
Thank god they fixed the grip. The old model could’ve had 100% let off an IBO of 550 and could’ve been completely silent and I still wouldn’t have bought it. That old grip was fucking horrible felt like holding a brick
@TalonID4 жыл бұрын
You mentioned that they redesigned the '20 Mach 1's riser to minimize hand-shock. While this is true for their aluminum riser bows, I have both a '18 & '19 Carbon Stealth EC - neither have hand-shock... The '20 CS EC is unchanged from '19. The only difference between the '18 & '19 is axle diameter.
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
I have to respectfully disagree. There is a huge difference in the design of the riser. Maybe you haven't shot other bows, but the 18 and 19 models had a lot of hand shock, comparatively speaking. If you shoot them one after another, you'll feel the difference.
@felixmdigilov3 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks for the speed test!
@stenny19704 жыл бұрын
Inside Out Precision Unreal Kinetic Energy with this Bow!
@chadandveronika4 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you.
@emyers41514 жыл бұрын
I got to hold one of these at an indoor competition and they are so light
@sethbiby76172 жыл бұрын
Patiently waiting for a PSE Levitate review!
@marksamluk98793 жыл бұрын
Just got mine and love it!
@Deadcentreprecision4 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@BPeterson7303 жыл бұрын
I really like mine. Thanks for the video.
@markojosic14 жыл бұрын
So about same speed as Hoyt Rx-4 turbo but 20 FPS less Ibo rated. Impressive
@justindirtrider19824 жыл бұрын
I had the carbon spyder turbo. Was not friendly to shoot. 0 valley. Absolutely could not relax or it would rip out of my hands.
@markojosic14 жыл бұрын
I had one too. Switched to prime. Not speed bows but lot nicer to shoot.
@PAKraig4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you for taking the time to put it together! I see an LCA press in the background. With the more-parallel limbs on the Mach 1, do you still need adapters on the LCA press to tune these? Thanks in advance!
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I still use the adapter
@mikereed8453 жыл бұрын
Careful with the Hoyt adapters. There was a kid who lost an eye pressing a PSE with them.
@JohnLee-vj9lh4 жыл бұрын
Great review well done, nice bow 👍🏹🏹
@xxxarcheryxxx4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review
@johnlytle86374 жыл бұрын
Have you shot the 80 lbs model? I shot the 70 today and it was amazing. The draw was so smooth and easy, I feel I might be able to build up to it without problem.
@Smoothy383 жыл бұрын
I just traded my rx4 Alpha bare bow straight up for one of these..thinking it was a good decision!
@rbparadise4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a review on the EC version. I have a 31.5 inch draw. So the Mach 1 is out for me. Also can you explain the difference in mods. Like the fast mod. What does it do to the draw cycle. What does it do to speed. And also hand shock. I cannot find any information on the fast mod. Loving your channel. Will be down to the bow rack to buy my new bow once all the new bows have been released.
@rbparadise4 жыл бұрын
Now looking at PSE’s website the EC also tops out at 30.5 inch draw. I have been shooting a pse bowmadness at 30.5” for five years. But really my draw length is 31.5”. I am used to shooting at that shorter draw. But feel my groups would improve if I had the correct draw length. Any advise on this. Had decided to get the Helix ultra but the bow rack was out of stock. So I am back to waiting for all the brands to release their bows. But the review on the EC would be much appreciated.
@rbparadise4 жыл бұрын
I see the EC 35 has a 32” draw. But it seems much slower.
@hunteranderson934 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video on the Mathews Tactic
@edosorio32914 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍...which stabilizer is that?
@ashleysmith41914 жыл бұрын
How do you feel this bow compares to the vxr? This bow seriously has my attention. I’m not so much concerned with the weight or even carbon vs aluminum, but how does the grip compare to the engage or even the Chris Bee grip? Draw cycle? Hold on target?
@robspringborg24264 жыл бұрын
I want this bow
@chrisochoa12224 жыл бұрын
Being the bow is super light do you think that the bow will need a lot of stab weight or it shot and held well with nothing? Highly considering this for hunting!
@micahpartlow78054 жыл бұрын
When is Hoyt going to release their 2020 bows?
@Buran014 жыл бұрын
Seems that at October 21.
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Usually the last week of October
@williammocaby4 жыл бұрын
Nov 7th
@usbsol4 жыл бұрын
PSE drive 3b is the same weight... which makes me doubt whether carbon is super awesome in bows regarding to weight at least.
@5jjt4 жыл бұрын
Are these true carbon bows, or do they have more of an injection molded type look and feeling? Do these bows twist when drawn? BTW, I just watched your RX4 video and the Carbon Air is definitely faster.
@michaelsayer36914 жыл бұрын
PSE are injected mold
@bennycartlidge84634 жыл бұрын
Great review. What sight is that?
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Just an old trophy ridge 5 pin. Nothing special
@apalm58024 жыл бұрын
can you do a review on some of the hoyts like nitrux or helix
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
We actually don't have any nitrux or Helix in stock at the moment. Making room for the 2020 models in a couple weeks!
@shadyp-zv3uf4 жыл бұрын
Do you guys sell semi newer used bows? Or used bows period...if not can you point me in a direction of a online store or preferably a shop that does
@henrycardenas83903 жыл бұрын
I currently have the Mach 1. I was wondering if it’s ok to drill a small hole to connect my rest to the cable carrier thing. Like on the NTN
@Guitdolin4 жыл бұрын
How does it feel outside in a crosswind? Seems like the solid and light riser might get blown around a little more in a crosswind.
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Yeah really light bows definitely don't sit on target as well with out some significant stabilizer weight. That being said, this bow seems very stable at full draw
@_JoJo1995Cool4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know when Mathews is going to release their 2020 hunting bows Also love the videos man keep it up
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Usually the last week of October. I know what they're doing, but I can't say anything yet haha. It's nice though
@dootdeedootdeedoo4 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision Its Nov now and its killing me to know!! Currently shooting a PSE Stinger X and looking for my upgrade after the holidays.
@minjin02594 жыл бұрын
Uhh... Maybe I missed it, but how much is the bow retailing for?
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
$1599. I usually leave the price out of the video because all shops will be different
@minjin02594 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision Smart. Great video BTW. It's between this and the RX3. If you don't mind me asking, which would be your choice? Don't worry if you can't answer that. Thanks.
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
@@minjin0259 honestly I think I like this bow a little better than the RX3. The only down side is that it's so light I have to load up my stabilizer to get it to aim well, but it holds great. The RX3 is a great bow though. Really going to come down to what you feel more comfortable with
@minjin02594 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision Thanks for the input. I'm just going to have to shoot both of them side by side. Luckily my local shop carries both. Be safe my friend.
@kevinhibberd85614 жыл бұрын
Are you able to switch out a cable slide with a cable roller?
@peterbuilttough34064 жыл бұрын
Just looks way sexier than a hoyt
@glennrudolph4 жыл бұрын
When he says the weight of the arrow, does grain mean gram?? And is that the total weight, including the field point?? Thanks!!
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
No, a grain is a measurement of weight.
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
And yes, that's total arrow weight
@twiztd0014 жыл бұрын
Can you do a comparison between a Helix Ultra #2 and a Carbon Stealth 35. Appreciate it.
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
I would but I don't have any more Helix Ultras and Hoyt isn't making them anymore!
@twiztd0014 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision well that isn't good news. Where did you hear they are discontinued?
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
@@twiztd001 Hoyt!
@twiztd0014 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision well that changes my choices
@miamifan4L4 жыл бұрын
Hello, I am a beginner to compound bows. I have shot a few but nothing crazy. I have been looking at pse and hoyt carbon lines as I would rather spend the money and get a great product and I am left handed as well. What would you recommend? Rx4 psecarbon mach 1 or any other preference?
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
They're both great. I prefer the Mach 1 to be honest.
@miamifan4L4 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision even over the rx4? What are your reasons?
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
@@miamifan4L The cam system is much more efficient with heavier arrows, you can adjust your let off without different modules, and I thought it was more quiet with less hand shock. I also like the ATA better than the RX4, but that's totally personal preference.
@michaelrhodes71544 жыл бұрын
hoyt rx4 or this bow. you can only chose one. which one do you take ???
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Rx4...so much easier to tune.
@michaelrhodes71544 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision thanks man any opinions on Bowtech??
@russelllieser42264 жыл бұрын
Sucks I need 31 draw length
@Deadcentreprecision4 жыл бұрын
Does the bow have a rear stabilizer mounting point on the back of the riser for 2020?
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Not in the Carbon unfortunately
@MrBA8124 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me what the MSRP is on this bow?
@thewildslifeofficial4 жыл бұрын
I cannot find this bow within 100 miles of Pittsburgh...... Just called every pse dealer on the list
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Lancaster doesn't have them.
@thewildslifeofficial4 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision they probably do.. but thats 4 hours in each direction....
@Aatje214 жыл бұрын
Please keep in mind that carbon doesn't go well with cold temperatures.
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Feels a lot warmer than aluminim! I know guys who have hunted with them in 0-10° temps and had no issues, what do you think doesn't go well with cold temps?
@chiefryan22603 жыл бұрын
Your a troll! Carbon IS FOR COLD WEATHER
@Aatje213 жыл бұрын
@@chiefryan2260 as far as i can remember carbon has a tendency to splinter during exposure to cold weather. At least, that’s how it used to be. If it’s different now, consider me educated. But to start crying about trolling is a bit over the top, especially 9 months later boi.
@pennyontrack3 жыл бұрын
@@Aatje21 arrows are almost all carbon and they can be shot in the cold so I don’t see a bow riser snapping from cold
@kilowatt95984 жыл бұрын
is it a rotating mod for draw length adjustment or is it one set length?
@Buran014 жыл бұрын
Almost all the modern PSE bow uses the EVO cams which are rotating modules with adjustable draw length without a bow press, and this isn't an exception.
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Rotating module
@kilowatt95984 жыл бұрын
@@Buran01 thanks for the responses, I'm not too familiar with PSE's lineup but this has drawn my attention
@chadpearson85974 жыл бұрын
Hey man! I was curious how this bow really holds on target?? Do you feel like the lack of mass makes it hold in the middle less?
@ObelixCMM3 жыл бұрын
You can add weight to stabilizer and side bar, it will be more stable at same overall weight.
@usbsol3 жыл бұрын
Is this the best bow in the world? Asking for a friend 🤪
@InsideOutPrecision3 жыл бұрын
Shoots nice but is a pain in the ass to tune.
@srmjr42003 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision Hey, great review. Thanks! I just got this bow. Still getting to know it. What makes it so hard to tune?
@InsideOutPrecision3 жыл бұрын
@@srmjr4200 most of them shoot like 2" right tear through paper out if the box and it won't change by moving the rest. That means you have to shim the cams which requires you to press the bow, remove the string and unhook the cables, relax the limbs and take the bow out of the press, take off the cam and move the shims. Then reassemble it. Not hard just very time consuming.
@srmjr42003 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision Thanks for the response. I'm racing to get mine set up for the season, so just beginning the process. That, and the fact that I'm still into my first year of bow hunting and changing from index to thumb release, has made the process a bit overwhelming. What effect has rotating the cable guide had on the tuning if any?
@christianfrank39754 жыл бұрын
Price?
@kevinsargent794 жыл бұрын
Not cheep.. I have last year pse Carbon. I think I payed 1300. Just for the bow..
@danielmandel7502 жыл бұрын
Can you guys sell and ship a carbon levitate?
@InsideOutPrecision2 жыл бұрын
We can't ship new bows because of dealer protection rules
@danielmandel7502 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision do you have any release date. Thanks
@michaelsayer36914 жыл бұрын
HUGE hump in the draw when I tested the PSE out. VXR or Rx4 will be the bow I choose.
@steve88284 жыл бұрын
I also experienced that "hump," but at 80% let off it was nearly gone.
@twiztd0014 жыл бұрын
Kellen is the 2020 Stealth 35 EC a hold over from 2019 or are they a redesign like the Mach I?
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Same as 2019 as far as I know!
@usbsol4 жыл бұрын
Are you gonna review the PSE Expedite? Pleeeaaaseee 🤩🤗
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Don't have one to review. We carried it last year but it didn't sell very well. Its fast, but pretty unforgiving because of its short brace height
@Bounce2audio4 жыл бұрын
Has anyone seen a black mach 1 yet?
@srmjr42003 жыл бұрын
...I see (and shoot) one every day.
@chickimac14 жыл бұрын
That’s a bad@@@ looking bow
@hawkbabby4 жыл бұрын
I’m confused, your right handed? That’s a right handed bow.
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
No I'm left-handed
@RB-tx4mn4 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision Yeah that confused me too, you said you were right-handed in the video. lol
@ricomendonca64754 жыл бұрын
Piece of shit equipment ,Matthews new VXR 2020 is by far way smoother and enjoyable to shoot
@stasiekspasiek72504 жыл бұрын
Pse push archers to other companys this year for sure, so shity models....im waiting for hoyt and mathews , where is tu fun Factor from PSE like xpedite or FT???
@goory934 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the review? This is calculating to 340+, throw the FL mods on there and you will be at high 340s.
@stasiekspasiek72504 жыл бұрын
If i want 350 i would go with xpedite with comfort mode, FL suck. Im talking about good aluminium bow more than 33ATA like evo 35 only faster. Im waiting for New Models and if all are fuckt like PSE than buy helix ultra black.