2020 U.S. Amateur Extended Highlights: Round of 16

[@kqgolfee]

Caddy should try to loop for patrick reed

[@joakimfredriksson3889]

Pinocchio 1 and 2

[@friedfilm]

What is interesting is if you watch the clip at 19:12 you can see the caddie touch the sand and then feel it between his fingers before he stands up. If you watch the overhead shot at 20:05 he rubs the sand and then stands up without feeling the sand between his fingers. Clearly two different clips. He did this at least twice.

[@conrradogarzon6683]

Im really sory for Pinto, it was totally out of his control and thats not the way that he deserved to end the match. Best luck for what it comes to Segundo

[@NightmareAWL]

He also grounded his club in the hazard at 15:54. Another breach of the rules.

[@hunterjohnson3187]

@@NightmareAWL You are allowed to with the new rules

[@NightmareAWL]

@@hunterjohnson3187 Really? It has absolutely been too long since I've played.

[@joakimfredriksson3889]

NightmareAWL yeah that has been changed, you can ground in penalty area

[@lowal8]

Firstly, why on earth did the caddy even do that, when Pinto can just wiggle his feet into the sand to judge the consistency. Secondly, the caddy compounds the problem by blatantly lying. What happened to sportsmanship? I feel sorry for Pinto.

[@joellahrman4557]

I couldn't hear exactly what he said, did he deny touching the sand? Or did he deny that he was testing the sand when he did touch it? Either, way, mystifying to see him do that. He's a resort caddie and might not play/caddie in tournament events often, but even if he didn't know the rules perfectly it seems hard to believe that he wouldn't at least suspect that you can't do that.

[@Me37368]

Same I feel so bad for Pinto. But that other players caddie seems like such a dick

[@TheLocalLt]

He didn’t deny it at all, he said he was trying to see whether it was a rock or sand, this argument imo is a golden parachute that lets him off the hook either way, unless the club specifically defines all hazards which I doubt they do, because if you were trying to see whether it was a rock that was part of the bunker face (which would be through the green), or part of the bunker itself (which would be a hazard). In this case, the sand does look kind of like an area of bare exposed rock, meaning his explanation is likely not only valid, it could be the entire truth and not a white lie. But the USGA, which is usually supposed to take a player’s word for it, although in match play the referee does have discretion, decides to use that unusual discretion to say that the caddy was lying and that he was testing the sand, even though this may not have been the case at all and he may have been doing exactly what he said and checking to determine if it was a rock face or the bunker! If you have to break some twigs within a hazard area to be able to see that you are in face within the stakes, you don’t get penalized, there’s no penalty for trying to determine if you are in a hazard or not. Once it’s established you are, then it’s fair game, but even then winning by technicality sucks. Does Bob Goalby really feel like he actually “won” the Masters fair and square, except for during that week in April when he gets treated as all the other winners? I have played against blatant cheaters in golf, but the reality is if you can’t prove it or their explanation is good then you don’t really have a choice but to let them off the hook. On top of that, the testing of sand in a bunker rule is ridiculous, the new rules allow you to hack to China in a bunker pre-shot but you can’t push down a little?

[@joellahrman4557]

@@Me37368 The other caddie was the player's father and yes he did come off that way.

[@jamieanderson6891]

@@Me37368 Yeah, seriously. It's enough as it is having to deal with the interrogation from the officials of your caddie (who I might add is local) but having your playing partner's caddie getting in the way and putting in his 2 cents where it really isn't needed sent me over the edge. I don't condone what the caddie did, he tested the sand, but that was a really poor show from the other caddie. The two players showed great sportsmanship and grace after hearing the verdict.

[@phantompaper]

damn that caddy screwed pinto, and it was a caddy that was provided to him by the course.. big oof

[@quinnbacoka7108]

Can I have the time stamp pretty shure that caddy is my ex step dad

[@johnny2thumbs247]

Looks like they'll be an open caddie position in Bandon tomorrow.

[@3rdgroove]

Ironically, because of Covid many of the older (and more experienced) caddies didn't want to go through all that hassle of staying in the "bubble". And so more of the younger and less experienced caddies got on the bags. And after a long exhausting day sometimes you don't think right anymore...

[@fanranker7426]

Shoutout Karl Vilips on the great caddying

[@juanpatlan4437]

Wait who’d he caddie for?

[@drewmiller337]

@@juanpatlan4437 Mike Thorbjornsen

[@juanpatlan4437]

Drew Miller Aah. Should’ve figured with the Stanford connection.

[@3rdgroove]

Great highlights. Thank you! I hope you can upload the play-off as well.

[@jholid6y]

Update: Pinto’s caddy just got a job to be Patric reed’s caddy.

[@Me37368]

I’ve watched Harrison ott hit balls at a range, one of the best I’ve ever seen!

[@maamold]

Hagestad sure looks like he anchors that putter to his chest....

[@3rdgroove]

How can it look like it when you can only see his shirt but never his chest?

[@maamold]

@@3rdgroove How can it not look like it when you can only see his shirt but never his chest? The question goes both ways.

[@3rdgroove]

@@maamold I don't think so. Do you know how much space is between his shirt and his chest? You don't. You only see the shirt. The question whether his gripping hand or putter rests on his chest can be decided visually only if he putts shirtless.

[@ridegriff50]

Strafaci:” yeah go ahead and touch the sand it’s ok” Caddie:”thank u very much”🤣🤣🤣

[@alecnevada1886]

Where’s the round of 32 @usga

[@Derbydays]

Ouch. Getting caught brushing the sand on national tv and then lying about it even though there’s video footage.

[@jm2206]

There are idiots on Facebook saying how it’s a dumb rule and it had no impact on the match. The caddie suggesting a certain type shot because of the condition could definitely impact the match.

[@TheHalo14aus]

@@jm2206 So true, rules of golf are simple really. Don't gain an unfair advantage.

[@TheLocalLt]

The part that is dumb is that this is exactly what the new rules of golf were designed to avoid, one of the new rules being able to ground your club in a hazard including bunkers. Why was this previously banned? To stop players from testing the consistency of the sand, or in the case of a red or yellow hazard to prevent them from testing the firmness of the turf. However the new rule for some asinine reason still bans “testing” the surface by pressing with a club or your hand, while allowing for grounding the club and taking practice swings, which of course allow you to test the surface with a practice swing that can allow you to test your entire planned shot! So if you are going to let players go all the way to taking practice hacks in a bunker, why continue to ban pushing down on the sand, which is far less disruptive to either the bunker or to play than digging to China on practice swings

[@TheLocalLt]

And after watching the entire thing I’m even more upset with the USGA! The caddy didn’t deny it at all, he said he was trying to see whether it was a rock or sand, this argument imo is a golden parachute that lets him off the hook either way, unless the club specifically defines all hazards which I doubt they do, because if you were trying to see whether it was a rock that was part of the bunker face (which would be through the green), or part of the bunker itself (which would be a hazard). In this case, the sand does look kind of like an area of bare exposed rock, meaning his explanation is likely not only valid, it could be the entire truth and not a white lie. But the USGA, which is usually supposed to take a player’s word for it, although in match play the referee does have discretion, decides to use that unusual discretion to say that the caddy was lying and that he was testing the sand, even though this may not have been the case at all and he may have been doing exactly what he said and checking to determine if it was a rock face or the bunker! If you have to break some twigs within a hazard area to be able to see that you are in face within the stakes, you don’t get penalized, there’s no penalty for trying to determine if you are in a hazard or not. Once it’s established you are, then it’s fair game, but even then winning by technicality sucks. Does Bob Goalby really feel like he actually “won” the Masters fair and square, except for during that week in April when he gets treated as all the other winners? I have played against blatant cheaters in golf, but the reality is if you can’t prove it or their explanation is good then you don’t really have a choice but to let them off the hook. On top of that, the testing of sand in a bunker rule is ridiculous, the new rules allow you to hack to China in a bunker pre-shot but you can’t push down a little?

[@joakimfredriksson3889]

TheLocalLt no as far as I know you can not ground in a bunker, the only rule change was that you can ground in a penalty area and a bunker is not a penalty area

[@Me37368]

Pinto punching the air right now with Tyler winning

[@okolekahuna3862]

Oliva didn't want to even look at his caddy.

[@davidjackson7051]

That looks like a good golf course to. Test some future golf stars

[@nathanthomas8222]

Schoolboy error there. Empty spot going at the caddyshack

[@WCGreeny]

Good lord its windy there. I'm surprised the balls were hanging on the green.

[@staceytravis3344]

Wow...Impressive

[@prorobo]

Stacey Travis marry me, please. I'm an airline pilot and can give you a good life.

[@conocon2745]

My guy Craig winter! Nice!

[@joakimfredriksson3889]

Wow did not like Thorbjornsen running in front of his opponent to look how the putt falls, behind sure but moving in front of the guy hitting it???

[@houkuanchoi2223]

Pinto's caddie dislike the video

[@EdnaMillion.]

Bizarre. Surely if you play in the US Amateur the caddie should know basic rules.

[@federicopochat397]

He was a local caddie

[@HighStrung25]

The caddy obviously didn't know what he did was wrong until he got called on it, which is called an honest mistake. Him just standing there and lying to Pinto, the other golfers, the other caddy, the officials, and to the camera was jaw-dropping. The audacity it takes to look the officials in the eye when asked a direct question, then lie to them is unconscionable. I was raised to always and immediately forgive an honest mistake. I could never get past the lack of character he showed when he needed his integrity the most.

[@Me37368]

I feel so bad for pinto

[@ezravincent8037]

Michaels the man

[@davidjackson7051]

I think since it's a amateur event they should have to carry there on bags anyways

[@prex345]

He clearly tested the sand.

[@smithjones569]

Gotta feel for the guy ( Pinto )

[@paedeapaedea8961]

Got caught cheating and lying about it when it's so obvious. Have some integrity and self respect for yourself...

[@andresgalvez]

Anyone else wonder if the caddy was paid to do some shenanigans? Unsubstantiated, but way suspicious.

[@yuzokaga2935]

oh my god!

[@nandor3351]

Even grounds keeper Carl from Caddyshack knows better than to touch sand...doh! Damn Gofer hole

[@TheHalo14aus]

Making each other putt everything, must be bad conditions!

[@stretch141000]

Played there last year, very difficult to maintain balance during big gusts!

[@joakimfredriksson3889]

Poor Pinto :(

[@jamescarl8156]

Anyone else think Strafaci’s dad was going a little overboard? I mean why would he want his son to win like that? I mean look it was against the rules and the outcome was just, but don’t whine so much about it.

[@TheLocalLt]

Why the hell is this rule even still around, this is exactly what the new rules of golf were designed to avoid, one of the new rules being able to ground your club in a hazard including bunkers. Why was this previously banned? To stop players from testing the consistency of the sand, or in the case of a red or yellow hazard to prevent them from testing the firmness of the turf. However the new rule for some asinine reason still bans “testing” the surface by pressing with a club or your hand, while allowing for grounding the club and taking practice swings, which of course allow you to test the surface with a practice swing that can allow you to test your entire planned shot! So if you are going to let players go all the way to taking practice hacks in a bunker, why continue to ban pushing down on the sand, which is far less disruptive to either the bunker or to play than digging to China on practice swings Edit: And after watching the entire thing I’m even more upset with the USGA! The caddy didn’t deny it at all, he said he was trying to see whether it was a rock or sand, this argument imo is a golden parachute that lets him off the hook either way, unless the club specifically defines all hazards which I doubt they do, because if you were trying to see whether it was a rock that was part of the bunker face (which would be through the green), or part of the bunker itself (which would be a hazard). In this case, the sand does look kind of like an area of bare exposed rock, meaning his explanation is likely not only valid, it could be the entire truth and not a white lie. But the USGA, which is usually supposed to take a player’s word for it, although in match play the referee does have discretion, decides to use that unusual discretion to say that the caddy was lying and that he was testing the sand, even though this may not have been the case at all and he may have been doing exactly what he said and checking to determine if it was a rock face or the bunker! If you have to break some twigs within a hazard area to be able to see that you are in face within the stakes, you don’t get penalized, there’s no penalty for trying to determine if you are in a hazard or not. Once it’s established you are, then it’s fair game, but even then winning by technicality sucks. Does Bob Goalby really feel like he actually “won” the Masters fair and square, except for during that week in April when he gets treated as all the other winners? I have played against blatant cheaters in golf, but the reality is if you can’t prove it or their explanation is good then you don’t really have a choice but to let them off the hook. On top of that, the testing of sand in a bunker rule is ridiculous, the new rules allow you to hack to China in a bunker pre-shot but you can’t push down a little?

[@rwattersjr]

TheLocalLt no, you’ve got the new rule wrong. The player can remove a loose impediment but cannot test the sand in any way. Read up here: golf.com/news/2019-rules-changes-to-know-bunker/

[@TheLocalLt]

Robert Watters Jr. my point is that taking practice swings in a bunker is effectively way bigger “testing” of the sand than pushing the toe of your club down or feeling the sand with your fingers. Also read the second part of my comment which I added to after watching the whole incident, the caddie’s explanation of seeing whether it was in fact the bunker or not, while not necessarily believable given that he knows the course, is absolutely plausible enough for the USGA to accept, which would have been the best option given the fact that he never even met the player before today, and the fact that if they were to rule that the caddie was lying (which is ONLY allowed because this is match play, where the referee gets discretion, whereas in stroke play the rules officials of the USGA would have had to accept the caddie’s explanation. Well unless your name is Dustin Johnson, not in 2010, which was very unfortunate and a ridiculous rule but it was cut and dry, but in 2016 I didn’t understand how the USGA was allowed to penalize Johnson when video evidence was very unclear) it would mean the player, who actually earned this opportunity and played dozens of holes of outstanding golf to get to the round of 16, and to take this match to the 18th against someone on home soil, would lose the hole without any opportunity for reprieve. In this circumstance if I were the referee I would be thanking god that the caddie came up with a realistic explanation which would allow me to avoid the disaster which ultimately occurred, thanks to the USGA declaring the caddie a liar and giving not only the hole but the match to his player’s opponent

[@rwattersjr]

TheLocalLt it doesn’t appear that you have read the rule. You cannot take practice swings in a bunker that actually touch the sand. You might be confusing bunkers with penalty areas. You can ground your club in a penalty area. As to your second point, nobody could claim any uncertainty that the green side bunker was a bunker.

[@rwattersjr]

TheLocalLt also, the DJ incident happened at a course that had waste areas. You can do anything you want in a waste area accept improve your lie or the path of the club. I agree that it was a questionable call, but I seem to remember that the players were warned of the issue before the tournament started.

[@TheLocalLt]

Robert Watters Jr. again the part he was touching had only a small and patchy layer of thinly raked sand over dark brown hardpan. His explanation that he was seeing if this was a rock (thus making it part of the bunker face, through the green, and thus legal to touch) or sand itself (thus making it a bunker) was certainly valid enough in this instance to be an out. It seems that dan hicks completely ignored and in fact partially talked over that comment, instead saying (falsely) that the caddie denied touching the sand. This is why everyone got this false impression of this. The match referee seemed to be caving to this explanation until the other player’s caddie and family members started freaking out causing a second rules official to come over and make the referee enforce the penalty. As far as why it’s a stupid rule, I guess maybe you have me on that part of this. So does that mean there are now different rules in a bunker than a yellow or red hazard? Me and the ppl I play with interpreted that you can now ground your club in a penalty area to mean any hazard, but I‘ll believe you on that.

[@jakelee3071]

This guy doesn't belong on a course, being a caddy or player. He is dishonest, period. That being said, he just learned something he won't do ever again.

[@aussiegolfer2919]

What a brutal golf course 👍🏌️‍♀️⛳️how stupid was pinto caddie ? Honestly I would have beat the shit out of him lol

[@jeprotable]

12:37 just hit the fckin’ ball man

[@davidjackson7051]

Sad for caddy he should have been informed by his player to late now

[@rektspresso7288]

So stupid how they only showed Hagestead and not Ott, I get he won but I think everyone would rather watch the guy who’s going to be on tour soon than a weirdo who decided to never go pro

[@praveenduggal7355]

Congrats Michael, by the way I’m first

[@keiththompson2172]

comment spoilers suck

[@frankwilk8660]

Bro code in action; no sympathy, didn't know the rules and tries to remedy with an out right lie.

[@Z-Bart]

Why LIE? He clearly touched the sand. Loss of hole.

[@staceytravis3344]

No he didn't

[@Z-Bart]

@@staceytravis3344 Yes. The caddie did touch the sand. Know the rules if you're going to play this game.

[@staceytravis3344]

Oh!! My bad I think that's true

[@jeremiahminter7541]

And people wonder why golf isn't growing, this is a stupid rule, and who wants to win like this, now you will never know who truly won, I feel bad for these guys, they did show some class and good sportsmanship, the rules change last year did help, but for god sakes we still have a ways to go, I mean he still has to hit the shot, he could have seen what the sand was like when he walked on it to make the shot, anyway just upsets me, rant over!

[@906patriot6]

Under old dementia joe's call for a national mandate requiring masks be worn outdoors all golfers will have to wear one while playing !!

[@prorobo]

906 DAstump screw that. I'll vote against him just for that.

[@timothyhutchins354]

Wearing mask is silly.