2020 Zero SR/F Electric Motorcycle Review: The only one left

[@lemmyd]

I had a short test drive today (40 minutes), at first even street mode got me by surprise with it's brutal acceleration, but Zero really managed the first 10 to 20 feet really good in terms of throttle mapping, traction control. I'm not that experienced, but that helped me put down a nice slipping start with a little black line in sport mode :-) I honed around the city of Vienna, Austria like crazy, between 50 and 75 mph!! never ending grin factor, good suspension, wide grippy tires, adequate brakes... damn i hope batteries get a lot cheaper soon

[@Miata822]

Good review. The bike is thrilling to ride. I've ridden other Zero models throughout the year but this was the first one I took on a test ride that felt like a "real motorcycle," whatever that is. I ordered immediately, mid March, and have been told to expect the bike by the end of July. Zero seems to be overwhelmed with orders from all over the world. That's a good thing. Bikes like this will win over more riders and it's great to see another American manufacturer succeed.

[@martybowen1]

NOT ANY REAL RIDERS TILL THEY GET THEIR RANGE AND CHARGE TIMES AND AVAILABLE CHARGE OUTLETS TO COMPETE WITH GAS!! UNLESS YOU ARE ONE OF THE ONES THAT ARE WILLING TO TOTALLY CHANGE YOUR ROUTINE TO MAKE UP FOR SHORT COMING IN RANGE CHARGE TIME AND ACCESS TO SOMEWHERE TO CHARGE!!! ITS GOT A LONG LONG LONG WAY TO GO TO ATTRACT SERIOUS RIDERS!!

[@Miata822]

@@martybowen1 Do you have only one bike, Marty? Most "real riders" have more than one, different ones for different reasons. I've been riding for ages and have several bikes. I never took my Multistrada on single track trails, never rode my KLR across the country, never expected my '70s Honda to have great brakes. Each had their own use. My SR/F came in and it is addicting to ride, incredible thrust and seems like better handling than my Speed Triple R. Sorry you can't wrap your head around that.

[@martybowen1]

@@Miata822 no actually ai have 3 I am fortunate as you are to but most die hard riders aren't so financially fortunie numbnutz!

[@Miata822]

@@martybowen1 At least you fixed your caplock before you started name-calling. One small step toward maturity. Keep up the good work.

[@thorstambaugh1520]

@@martybowen1 Stop with the real riders BS. I rode for 30 years. I have an SR and love it. The average rider does 37 miles a day and 100 on weekends. Stop trying to compare it to a cruiser.

[@sunpwrd]

I've had my SR/F for a full month now and have ridden over 1,300 miles, probably 50/50 city/mountains. I thought the review was fair, although saying you couldn't do 400-500 miles over a weekend is only true where sufficient charging infrastructure does not exist. Admittedly, that's in a lot of places. Here in LA, we have decent infrastructure, but we need a lot more. I rode to Newcomb's Ranch, a nice biker place on Angeles Crest Hwy. north of LA, this weekend. I could make it round trip from Santa Monica, but I would have to go easy. I'm going to see if I can engineer a couple of L2 charge stations for them. SoCal Edison will pay most of the cost, I believe. They already allow Zeros to use a couple of L1 plugs, but with the SR/Fs selling like crazy out of Harlan Flagg's Hollywood Electrics, we're going to need support. Guaranteed I'll buy lunch while I wait.

[@KenHeslip]

If I had the money I would buy instantly.

[@loooooopy]

Not worth it

[@armstrongsam539]

@@loooooopy why

[@loooooopy]

@@armstrongsam539 far too expensive, poor range and it's extremely heavy

[@armstrongsam539]

@@loooooopy does not have mileage bro

[@loooooopy]

@@armstrongsam539 what does that even mean

[@popcornparam]

All is well except there is an additional zero in the zero's price tag

[@chrisdigital]

The price of their bikes are completely absurd. In fact the price of everything including cars and regular motorcycles are completely absurd right now as well.

[@Verse1234567]

so excited about the design of this. Thank you Zero for pushing electric bikes.

[@OcSpeed]

You're too big to not balance your audio... Turn that music down or turn the voice up... That intro music scattered the stuff outta me

[@stevenkelby2169]

Yep this review, channel and bike all suck. Try harder guys. Unsubbed.

[@MilesBellas]

For city riding this would work. Royal Jordanian said the Zero was the best bike he had ever ridden.

[@chaugan]

When you say "3G connection", do you mean 4G? Because, many countries, including my own, are turning off 3G in 2020.

[@rajasimanta]

In India, my small town only has 4G since 2 years

[@nickclarkuk]

140ft lb of torque from a standing start 😍

[@slartybartfarst9737]

Ive a collection of bikes including DSR and Cagiva Raptor 1000cc. Ive ridden SRF its a combo of both, that is one hell of a bike. Ordered one on the spot, it handles, brakes , goes and looks brilliant

[@stevequinn8127]

You'll love it. I do. I went to one of the Zero factory demo days and one of the engineers from Zero just kept saying, "Just ride it". I did, and traded my DSR for the SR/F on the spot.

[@42crazyguy]

Wow this looks c- "$19,000" I'll get the MT 09

[@JpOcDenver]

Or MT-10, or Tuono, or super duke, or s1000r.... all cheaper than this.

[@Totone56]

@@JpOcDenver Tbh, a brand new SuperDuke for example is 17k, factor in a year of revisions and the difference between fuel and electricity, and it's kinda even ! Kinda less obvious with an MT10 or an S1000R, but you get the point :p It's not so far off as we would think

[@jckcc]

Don't forget replacing the battery of the Zero costs at least half of what the bike costs. The only accessible electric bikes are those with shitty on wheel engines that barely pass 60 km/h and lead acid batteries that die in two years (not to mention also costing half of the bikes' costs).

[@JpOcDenver]

Anton Larchey until you factor in the performance capabilities of the ice bikes. And I don’t mean acceleration. The world-class, top-tier components in the Tuono and super duke put them on another planet. Brakes and suspension are the big ones, but also the tft and race-level electronics, I don’t see them as anywhere near in the same league. I applaud zero, actually. So don’t get me wrong. I would’ve guessed this bike to be over 20k. But still, at 19k, the value just is not there. It’s still a novelty at this stage.

[@thorstambaugh1520]

@@JpOcDenver Actually they are far more expensive. The Zero will go for 300000 miles with little maintenance. You would spend 3 times that fixing your bike.

[@Sagar_RS]

In India. There are electric bikes which give 160 km range for around 3. 5 k dollars

[@adem_gun]

What are they called?

[@mylesgray3470]

Looking forward to more adorable bikes like that! There is no reason electric bikes should cost as much as a new car.

[@GrrMeister]

*And as I understand in India you have plenty working for less than $1 (US) a day, no doubt on treadmills powering Wind Farms or Hydro Schemes to generate the Electricity ?*

[@SSchithFoo]

Same in many South East Asian countries. There is absolutely no way Zero's prices r justified. I checked their cheapest model in Australia and it was over 15000 Aud!. A year later they left the country due to poor salea.

[@Sagar_RS]

@@GrrMeister things have changed mate, u have to catch up with what's happening around the world.

[@Benzin0]

A 8 min video without a single 10 sec clip of how it sounds... disappointing

[@craigfirman1809]

Zino Productions I’m not sure if your serious or not but ever I would like to know what electric humming sounds it makes if any.

[@B__SYAHRULMUBAROK]

@@craigfirman1809 r/whoooosh

[@computronium8]

They could turn off that generic music

[@ArvisPavilons]

well it sounds shit, just like an RC toy car. And guess what, you can even clutch wheelie it - because you dont have a clutch :D

[@B__SYAHRULMUBAROK]

@@ArvisPavilons are you positive or negative about it ?

[@thebanditsix]

Why haven't Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Honda produced any electric bikes yet, in the UK there is only four or five dealers selling electric bikes, all Zero, far to expensive. Give it ten years we watching Moto E gp.

[@joevidya]

They all have electric prototypes but none of them are releasing anything just yet, waiting for bettery tech to get better so they can give us an actual affordable electric bike.

[@curtn7076]

zero is evolving for sure.. the next thing they need to work on is an aerodynamic highway bike. wind resistance is there biggest problem on the highway but they are not addressing it at all...It's time!

[@dwc1964]

When they build one with a fairing I'll buy it immediately

[@TheMichaelV]

check out lightning electric motorcycles. way faster and with fairings

[@dwc1964]

@@TheMichaelV I'm not comfortable crouching down racer-style, do they make one with an upright seating position like a tourer/sport-tourer? (not last time I looked)

[@CheapskateMotorsports]

@@dwc1964 dude, just get full handlebars and adjustable footpegs. If you want you can even change the seat. Motorcycles are adjustable.

[@sethendicott2188]

I don't think the music is needed. Next time just play Human Music

[@FurEngel]

Rick and Morty reference?

[@RightToSelfDefense]

Seth Bradley, Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. No extraneous music. it makes you wonder what video school they went to. It does NOT add to the video one bit. It just makes it annoying.

[@foccalabindella2]

my man

[@Robert-hb8fo]

Man, Zero is really carrying the entire electric bike industry in america on it's back, and it's just a small scale California company. I can't wait to see in 5 years or so how far electric bikes will go.

[@staninjapan07]

As of now, unless I am mistaken, Zero has precisely 1.5 dealers here in Japan.

[@adithyavk1764]

1.5 😂😂

[@flaviotaue4706]

Which is more than Zero.

[@staninjapan07]

@@adithyavk1764 Yeah, there are two, and one is not far from me, but, although its website is half-completed, there isn't a business premises yet.

[@thorstambaugh1520]

Oh, I thought you meant one was owned by a midget

[@gohachi5313]

I may just consider this one. There is a lot to like about it as a daily commuter. Plenty of room in my Garage for a 3rd bike. ;)

[@dynamitejimi]

Been following this bike for a few months now. I can’t wait

[@BradGryphonn]

2:15 Safety would suggest pulling up if you want to change modes. It's not a video game. Sorry, that sounded overly trollish. As for the bike. I want one. This would be the perfect commuter for me. I have a 60km round trip with about half of it highway driving. Do these things have regenerative braking systems? Actually, that could be scary on a bike.

[@Neojhun]

Yes it does have some Regen Braking gradually on certain modes. No its not scary.

[@cliff4377]

Got a DSR, Yes it has regen, it won't break the back tire, even in the wet with knobbies. Riding in the rain is a joy, as I can hit a button and be riding a 300cc bike instead of a sub 4 second bike. (no idea how far below 4, but it feels like a fair bit) it got even faster when I put slicks on it, ~0.8g accel.

[@cliff4377]

I spent aprox October to May riding in the rain, say 4000+mi/yr wet, So I think I know about commuting on this in the rain. I spent more on rubber than fuel.

[@BradGryphonn]

@@cliff4377 That's some serious torque.

[@BradGryphonn]

@@cliff4377 Nice. I'll look into these further.

[@digger8180]

Thank you Roberto for this great post. I embrace this technology, unfortunately until the big manufactures get on board the price is not good. I've been riding bikes for 30 years, if they want to sell the electric motorcycle ownership deal they need to bring the price down.

[@Alexander5R]

I haven’t driven a electric bike, but it was my understanding that electric motors don’t have a power band like a ICE and thus it didn’t needed a transmission.

[@thorstambaugh1520]

Correct their powerband goes like this MONSTER MONSTER MONSTER

[@aeror115]

Will wait a few years! Technology is developing very fast .., So we could see a much cheaper e motorcycle in a few years 🤙 Enjoy the bike life

[@MrCarGuy]

Going to be about 2 decades for me before it would make sense.

[@MrCarGuy]

@John Rayne Where is your credibility? I work in the industry and know battery cell tech will not be mass-production viable (light enough, energy dense enough, or cheap enough) for lightweight motorcycles in at least a few decades. Same with cars. They won't replace ICE convenience or lightness for decades.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

"Technology is developing fast!" EV is the future, it's just around the corner! No. Actually it's about 20 years out, at best. Right now the best lithium technology WILL NOT CUT IT. Batteries are going to have to double or triple their range, 1/3 or 1/4 their charge time, AND BE TOLERANT IN EXTREME CLIMATES before anything will join gasoline power as a viable alternative.

[@googlebhai7529]

Beautiful machine 😍 want to buy but zero balance

[@robertweekley5926]

Zero Balance? In your Motorcycle Handling Skills, or "Bank Account?" 😁

[@googlebhai7529]

@@robertweekley5926 bank account lol

[@tomofnorthcal]

You can make long trips if you can find high speed AC chargers. You can also get Tesla adapters for their fast AC charges. Plus, you need to install the 9000kWh charging system. 400 is more realistic per day. If you go to NewZeroLand, this guy on his Energica Evo 13.4kWH batter pack demonstrated that he can go 400 miles, but in 11.5 to 12 hrs. Yes that is a long day, but the key is fast charging. The Energica's DC charger can charge up to 90% in 20-30 minutes (13.4 kW hr bat). Note: My specs may be off but in reality 400 mile trips are do-able.

[@STOPsignforRT]

First of all, great review. Enjoyed watching and listening to the commentary and information. The one thing I was not able to determine from this review is the sound or lack thereof from this bike. All riding sequences had background music playing. I would have liked to have been able to hear what kind of noises emanate from this e-bike while riding. Or actually what kinds of noises you don't hear when it is cruising down the road. Power and torque are great selling points. Price point and range, eh not so much. But overall, a good case for considering one in light of the worlds current environmental condition. Thanks for the post! Cheers. 🥂

[@thorstambaugh1520]

Slight whir to 30 or accelerating. Then nothing but wind louder than the motor

[@dwc1964]

Whenever comparing the purchase price of an EV vs. internal combustion vehicle, just looking at the MSRP is misleading. For me at least, if I'm buying a brand-new vehicle from the dealer, I'm taking a 3- or 5-year loan. If that's you too, then it makes more sense to figure the monthly payment on each vehicle, plus the monthly cost to fuel each vehicle, plus the average monthly cost of maintenance of each vehicle. Given that EVs cost *way* less to fuel and maintain than internal combustion vehicles, the EV will almost certainly look much better taking those items into account.

[@blastology1989]

Eh, motorcycles already get good gas mileage. I get around 65 MPG on my MT-09, insurance is cheap, and the bike is fast. Also, the added benefit on living in california is that lane splitting is legal, so no sitting in traffic.

[@dwc1964]

@@blastology1989 I live in San Francisco. Riding up a steep hill with a stop sign at the top and a half dozen cars in between will wear out your clutch faster than anything. Electric is the tool for the job. Also, lane-splitting is not always physically possible on streets with narrow lanes jam-packed with cars cutting back and forth between them. TBH I prefer riding mass transit when possible; the only reasons I ever ride in the city are 1) I need to go where MUNI doesn't, 2) I need to carry more than I can on MUNI, or 3) I'm on my way out of the city or coming back home. I finally sold my last RT a couple years ago & have rented rides for my couple long trips per year, it's expensive but still better than paying to maintain a big bike I almost never rode. I'm looking forward to getting an electric because I would actually enjoy riding it in the city so I probably would take it out more. As with everything, YMMV. What I don't get is the apparent need to shit on EVs. You don't want one, don't get one.

[@blastology1989]

@@dwc1964 I've driven a Camaro SS manual in san Fran without burning out a clutch lmao. Second of all. Motorcycles have wet clutches, good luck burning those out. I live in LA and lane splitting is 100 percent needed here.

[@austina4189]

My Zero feels like a magic carpet going down and back up long dips in the road and over sharp hilltops. Especially when I'm riding with gassers and can't hear my bike at all

[@6Twisted]

Why does it take 30 minutes to update software... Also, halogen indicator bulbs on a $19,000 electric bike which already has limited range? Seriously?

[@ChaosBW]

It's also really small No tall riders

[@theloniousMac]

I wish motorcycle videos would just forgo the crappy faux metal music.

[@craagz]

"keep an eye on" - cue headlight switch off... classic!

[@BobJones-zf6ie]

At 0:15 "...too be perfectly honest electric motorcycles are sort of a weird proposition, motorcycles already get great mileage..." not where I come from, many are barely getting 35 mpg.

[@henrychua7451]

Good report. Concise while checking all the highlights of the bike, with enough comments to spare.

[@TheFlatEarthChannelcom]

I just bought my first used EV motorcycle for $2100 CAD! Owned many gas powered motorcycles. Gets time to get used to though. I get about 40-70 km range though. With future upgrades will increase my range.

[@danielmcgrath9369]

Here in Australia we have lots of sunlight,so come on,add a solar panel fpr charging while parked

[@dwc1964]

Another thing that would make me pull the trigger - EV chargers at the big flat parking lot across from Alice's at Skylonda Corner. If I could plug in there while eating lunch, that would end the last bit of "range anxiety" I have. [I mention this because I think I recognize some of the scenery in this video.]

[@ron1martens]

I own an electric concrete mixer. I bought it in around 1992. It has done a massive amount of work. So much so the bowl has worn out, changed worm bolt and worm wheel. That's because someone put grease on it. ( supposed to run dry) The labels on the motor is worn out so you cannot see what type of motor, how much power it is etc. You cannot beat electric. As for the price and cost of batteries. You will not witness a huge reduction of price. I would like to be incorrect and have people say in my face you are wrong I will laugh with them. The reason batteries are expensive is very obvious. It's a secret. Secret weapon and the only way some people have control. An ice vehicle ( internal computing engine) Have around 7 thousand parts for a motor vehicle. Not sure on a motorcycle. It's a lot and each requiring precision machinery and purpose made robotic machinery to manufacture each part each seal, Each fuel pump, cooling system electronics and sensors etc. So how after all that an electric motorcycle is more expensive? One thing on a vehicle which is oil dependant you are at the mercy of the ever Changing price of fuel which varies day to day. People think oh we ride 1,000 miles each week and have fuel readily available. People become content with this dependency and it is not until fuel stations run dry They may stand up and take notice. If you had solar panels and battery backup, you are heading in a direction of off the grid. You can be certain the power structures dont Want that. This is the reason for inflated Prices and pay per mile you travel. Technology in batteries are improving at such a rapid rate along with cordless tools.

[@Mondo_Monchi]

I'm broke as fuck but still appreciate this bike for what it is; A step in the right direction for ev motorcycles 🤘

[@usmcsaxoki]

Great review! Love my SR.

[@grendelum]

I think they missed a trick... what about a clutch pedal replacement that controls regen strength?

[@kevinmasey6459]

Totally agree ,would have been a great add on extra,would only need a plugin to the controller and a left lever,bit of software to make progressive great idea 👍

[@wilmotown]

Do people really want to control regen strength? I've had my Model 3 since last December, put maybe 10 thousand miles on it, not sure I've touched the regen strength once. I don't think the addition of the feature is a bad thing, just... should they really spend any money on R&Ding that?

[@grendelum]

William Mackay - bikes (and by extension bikers) rely _heavily_ on engine braking to slow down as it puts the force on the rear tire and is _very_ predictable. Having modes is grand (and I would _much_ prefer if my Model S had flappy paddle regen like all t’other evs as car handling benefits) but bikes need more flexibility.

[@grendelum]

kevin masey - just what I was thinking... clutch lever off any (nice) bike attached to a rotary encoder plugged into the confuser. Bit of software, but you already have presets (min/max) so it’s just a step sweep twixt those as the encoder indicates...

[@wilmotown]

orion khan I suppose there’s a difference. To me, in cars, the reason for putting them has more to do with paddle-shifter familiarity than actual need. The way Tesla does it seems to be fine to me, though a couple more settings would be nice. I don’t think they need to be at my fingertips all the time. I guess the market pressure over time will decide whether or not easy access to those controls in cars is actually what people want.

[@devanois]

My complaint now about the design is that lcd screen. I think it would have been better to use a reflective display that works well under sunlight. There is no need to have an expensive lcd screen,..., unless you want to watch movies on that. That’s my preference. Other Zero motorcycles have that and I haven’t heard anyone complain about it.

[@muriaticfpv2328]

Over the air updates. Why?! Electric motor, speed control, battery. Done. Keep it simple like the previous Zeros and don't mess with my bike remotely.

[@t_c5266]

$19,000? No thanks.

[@t_c5266]

@@pjeng1 and itd break in a week

[@minskwatcher]

Yeah, go ahead and buy a livewire for mere $30k

[@joellouisfire]

Hoping in a few years (the sooner the better) it'll be equal to or more affordable than gas engines.

[@CloroxGodThe1st]

This will outlast a lot of bikes and be cheaper in maintenance. Dont think about the now think about the long run.

[@muresandaniel3812]

If u live in the city i belive soco tc max is a good option very cheap only 5000$

[@ethixhiggins5059]

Ive really been looking at the zero fxs supermoto as a first motorcycle somewhat experienced but why would you say its dangerous for someone who isn't?

[@thorstambaugh1520]

Not at all. You can adjust the bike to your ability

[@aebrown8268]

I ride a 2017 SR. I plan to trade up. I had a Hayabusa. What you pay on the front end you make up for on the back.

[@Atabalacce]

Ae Brown many people dont realise this but its so important.

[@johnb8190]

19k and only 75 mile range? I’m good. I’ll keep my Honda CBR.

[@fueg31]

lol 75miles.... 160 miles !

[@johnb8190]

Doesn’t matter. That is still a rip off. I can get a brand new Ducati for cheaper

[@thorstambaugh1520]

@@johnb8190 No you cant. What you can do is waste money on three Ducatis and thousands in repairs and maintenance before this even begins to wear.

[@Texarmageddon]

Thor Stambaugh literally the majority of Ducati lineup is going to kill this bike for cheaper ... 959 panigale is cheaper than this by a couple thousand here in the states

[@thorstambaugh1520]

@@Texarmageddon Again, the Ducati will break down long before the Zero even starts to wear. Not to mention the maintenance and gas. You would buy about 3 Ducatis, a ton of gas and thousands in repairs.

[@flitsies]

Yes it looks nice but the one thing that bothers me or should that be the one thing other than the range that bothers me is the charge socket, I wonder how well it would be during a really heavy down pour of rain, so you pull up to the charger while it really pouring down with rain you open the flap and what it's soaking wet and every hole full of water because it's pointing up. So you plug it in anyway cos you think they must have thought about that right, but you end up shorting something out on the bike cos it's a safety feature that you can't charge while the plug is wet, so now you are stuck in the rain unable to charge and the bike is dead due to it's safety feature stopping you getting electrocuted by the rain filled socket. So I wonder just how safe it would be to connect your bike to the charger in the middle of a down pour of rain, no shelter for the charging, so you are stuck standing in the rain waiting for it to charge or you go to the local café so long as it's day time, but at night you are stuck hanging around with your thousands of dollars bike waiting for it to charge, in the rain or snow or what ever the point is, is that socket safe in the rain considering it's pointing up and will fill up with water?

[@bennettsbikesocial]

Wow - 140 miles is impressive! Where were you riding to achieve that?

[@Perpetratorn]

25 mph city driving, I'd assume. 75 miles on the highway. Too bad.

[@bennettsbikesocial]

@@Perpetratorn I only managed 60 miles, but I was riding rather spiritedly. I reckoned 100miles would be realistic for a commute riding normally.

[@Perpetratorn]

@@bennettsbikesocial Ah, cool! I have never seen one of these in real life. 60 miles is not enough, nor is 140 if the charging takes longer than 30 minutes or so. Needs to be a bike I can spend a day with, a day of spirited riding that is.

[@jogordon1530]

I wouldn't mind buying one but there are practically no charging stations in my state which means riding very small distances so I make it home without a dead battery!

[@raychang8648]

Excellent video!!! In Taiwan, I ride a gogoro S1!! I absolutely love it!

[@DanielZajic]

Small correction: It's "temper", or "tamp down". "Temper down" is not a thing.

[@anderbeau]

Who cares 😂... You're sexy though 😉

[@denvera1g1]

waiting on an enclosed 3 wheeler like the ELIO

[@ImranPangilinan]

What I find funny is the world governments blaming motorcycles and cars for pollution when SHIPS, AIRLINERS, SPACE ROCKETS, and BLOODY FACTORIES are to blame

[@lautoka63]

Aviation: 2 - 6% of emissions depending what you believe about radiative forcing. Ships: yes, dirty sulphur fuel, but cars - even modern low emission engines, the sheer volume of them makes them the largest contributor. Aero engineer by profession.

[@ImranPangilinan]

@@lautoka63 huh? that does not make any sense! JET ENGINES ARE MORE "GREEN" than regular combustion engines? how the hell?

[@animallover9378]

Actually the meat and dairy farms are the most to blame. That's why CNN stated "go vegan, save the planet"

[@Spazza42]

don phan Correct. The largest producer is Agriculture, not vehicles. All those cows sh*tting in fields waiting to die to be sold as food. The same space could be used for plants to feed us, it’s literally an industry middle man eating away at the few resources we have...

[@abhirupsengupta]

@@Spazza42 and them cows fart and burp a lot of methane too

[@Justwanthavefun_100]

I’m still loved old V4 engine until the end

[@2gj906]

That's a good review! Thanks Roberto!

[@davidkhoii4331]

Cool bike.

[@mase002]

140 miles is about the range of my dualsport. Not too bad for a commuter

[@martybowen1]

Mine to but I can refuel virtually anywhere in about 5 mins start to finish and be on the road again at less than 1/3 the price!! THINK IT THROUGH!!!!!

[@CloroxGodThe1st]

@@martybowen1 you can also charge your bike for 1 hour for less than 1 dollar and still never have to worry about anything going wrong because its electric.

[@martybowen1]

@@CloroxGodThe1st As long as you have somewhere to plug it in and all the time in the world to wait for it to charge!😄

[@Nekminute]

I want more power 200 hp and 200 torque something like the lighting

[@MrConor159]

I want reviews to get out the other end alive

[@timellis4214]

Gee...You don't want much do ya hey! Give them 5 more years. Weight will come down. Power will increase. Price should come down to. I wonder if 200hp is needed though....The torque figures are pretty impressive. I ride a Triumph speed Triple 1050cc....133hp...84lbs of Torque....This bike in the video is way more than mine. I think it'll satisfy 98% out there.

[@raphymartinez]

"more and more vehicles are getting these types of updates".... Except as of now only Tesla has that capability and this motorcycle as well. There is no other vehicle sold today that can get over the air software updates (I believe BMW can do some Infotainment updates but not vehicle updates)

[@ciaoitalo]

YEAH ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLES!

[@ZO5150]

Still waiting for a full fairing Zero! My question is, would the added weight kill the benifits of the added aerodynamics?

[@jpmorgan187]

Obviously not...

[@GregHassler]

No, the few lbs of fairings would have no negative effect, and the aero gain could be appreciable. No idea why Zero hasn't done a fairinged(?) bike yet.

[@Vessekx]

Greg Hassler, I’m sure they will eventually. They started in the ‘standard’ space, and have branched out into the Dual Sport & ‘Street Fighter configurations. It’s only a matter of time before they add others to their lineup.

[@GregHassler]

@@Vessekx hopefully, I already own an S and an FX, looking forward to a fairinged sport bike. But we've been hoping for 6+ years and still nothing.

[@ZO5150]

I feel like it should definitely be the next step. Fingers crossed!!!

[@Timbodacious]

What they don't tell you is that when those batteries start to lose their charge after a few years they sit around 70% charged, and replacing one of those battery packs is way more than replacing a gas engine.

[@MrSuihke]

Idk about that but for example tesla promises after 200k Miles 80% capacity or 10years

[@thorstambaugh1520]

300000 miles. OK?

[@ron1martens]

Great bike. Once you go electric you won't want to do anything else.

[@at0m113]

"Zero continues to be the one electric motorcycle maker to watch because frankly, it’s the only one left." It's a little disappointing you missed Energica. Whose line of bikes is actually right around the price point of the SR/F. They're also supplying MotoE with bikes -- the first race is even this weekend in Germany. So they're definitely not dead. I'd probably have one in my garage if they weren't so damn heavy (Energicas, and to a lesser extent, the SR/F).

[@vitorcordeirom]

I want oneeeee

[@tranhongphong61]

Wonderful bike

[@harrylime5147]

$42,000 is the cost of a new battery for a zero motorcycle that my friend has had for a few years. A blogger told him to discharge his batteries and he would get more range out of the batteries when he recharges them. That was bad information from a blogger. My friend did the usual recharge routine, and the batteries would not come back. He got on the phone tozero technical support, they talked him through a checklist, and they told him that if his batteries are toast. My friend spoke with engineers, other zero owners, he did battery research online, nothing worked. His zero battery consists of seven batteries, each battery cost $6000.. I know that seems like a misprint, $42,000. And I know that you could buy two brand new zero motorcycles for less than that price. But that’s what it is. My friend has been waiting for almost a year now for a used battery to show up on the Internet somewhere. Or possibly a crashed zero that he could get the battery out of.. but in the meantime, his zero is sitting in the corner of his shop with all his other motorcycles. He said he’s possibly going to part it out.He said the bike was a lot of fun, even though he missed the sound of an engine and he missed shifting gears .He said the power is shocking... Before you go out on that limb and buy an electric anything, check the price of the batteries first.

[@thorstambaugh1520]

I call BS

[@HollywoodExplainInHindi]

try revolt rv 400 electric bike

[@userjff182]

Yeah bro, I rather look down at the app on my phone to adjust it rather than the controls on the motorcycle while I’m riding. It’s much easier than having the latency from the buttons on the handle.

[@varsharawat6747]

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[@thoongchinglee4905]

Can't fit the full face helmets ?

[@Frag1ty]

nope :( I wish they went the honda nc750x route

[@peterwilliamson4296]

A great looking bike. The 100 k plus range would suit riders who are not into long distances such as myself. You do pay more at the start but electric only travelling is very very addictive. My Prius is electric only for 20k then hybrid. I rarely buy gas!

[@Banikan]

Really cool bike, would get one if it was less pricy. Also not fan of the display. Love the idea of an electrical bike though.

[@cloudoftime]

Sound isn't just about pride, it's also about safety.

[@willdarling1]

my cousin's friend accidentally initiated an update too - it definitely wasn't me

[@obsidian9998]

How secure is the electric bike from hackers?

[@silverfox__12]

A decent volume for engine sound is imperative to not being ran over. I had to put an aftermarket exhaust on my FZ07 because the first summer I had the bike, every time I took it out, someone would pull out in front of me or run me off the road. Drivers can't see us. They need to hear us.

[@syntehtix]

Reason I'm rockin a JBL speaker while riding, thinking full boom box or integrated sound next.

[@thorstambaugh1520]

By that reasoning all cars should have open headers.

[@asharak84]

Do you get Super Soco bikes in the US? For commuting the TC Max is quite appealing, so long as you're not going on roads with a higher limit than 60mph. For me it's a more relevant electric motorbike as it's cheap so works well as a cheap fast commute option. Not that I wouldn't love a Zero, but it's hard to justify the price for me.

[@flexairz]

75 to 100 miles range? next!

[@animallover9378]

75-140

[@woodywood3388]

Wow. Did you wear any protection apart from the helmet? Sneakers, anorak and jeans? I hope you didn‘t have a spill. ATGATT is the only way to go, especially on a bike with that much torque.

[@AKA001]

Good review. However, a true bike rider always wears riding gear when riding. Jeans just don’t cut it. What they’ll do is burn you to the bone, even on slow slips. Always wear your kit.

[@obsidian9998]

Of course range is an issue. Yet, it looks like it behavez as a well performing vehicle to be fair. Design I like too.

[@charlielainez1148]

It's expensive. I want it but I rather wait.

[@thndr_5468]

There's also the fact that there are significantly less moving pieces to have to worry about.

[@thorstambaugh1520]

One moving part in the motor and Zero moving parts in the batteries

[@obriangrady2295]

GREAT JOB!

[@rocketrollsvlogs7625]

I test rode a dsr a month ago that was on sale for 10k. I ride primarily in the city. I guess they didn't hear him say he only had to charge once a week in the city???

[@artblakey4159]

Yet another Zero tester claiming a "fast" bike with no instrumented test to back it up.

[@kalel33]

0-60 in 3.5 seconds. That's pretty damn fast but still a second slower than liter super bikes.

[@artblakey4159]

@@kalel33 a single cylinder Duke 690 does it in 3.3 (cycle world 2016) Bennett's has the twin cylinder KTM 790 at 3.11, 4 cylinder bikes even faster ( under 3 seconds) No doubt 3.5 sounds fast for someone who doesn't ride and it IS fast compared to most cars, but if an article is going to gush and rave about how awesomely fast this bike is.... shouldn't it actually be superbike fast?

[@kalel33]

@@artblakey4159 I ride and it still is fast. It's faster in 0-60 than a Z900, GSX-R600RR, and Street Triple. It's only 4 tenths of a second slower than my liter bike. It's like saying the C7 Corvette isn't fast because the new C8 can do 0-60 in almost a second faster. Also, you have to consider the source. The source is a tech site, not motorcycle site.

[@artblakey4159]

@@kalel33 do we agree it's slower than a single piston KTM? The only reason I commented, is like a lot of people I'm very excited about Zero and the new bike, but clearly they loan them out to tech and lifestyle mags and blogs so we really don't know much about their true performance yet. But for the price if you can't comprehesively see off a single, then we're still selling cutting edge tech as opposed to performance, and while that's cool, this bike is marketed as a performance machine.

[@artblakey4159]

@@kalel33 btw Cycle World July 2017 has z900 0-60 at 3.0 and 1\4 mile in 10.95 @ 125, same article shows street triple is even faster at 2.9 0-60 and a 10.89 quarter

[@sl600rt]

Let me know when there is a 200 mile range bike for 12k.

[@Balomis]

It's got the same incandescent front turn signals as my 2013 KTM 500 EXC... weird that they didn't got LED on a $19,000 bike

[@EmanueleBergamini]

Quite a nice bike, but too expensive for my pockets and still too low autonomy. Are the Honda NC700/750 the only motorbikes with decent storage space?

[@UltimatePwnageNL]

If the goldwing is not a motorbike, then yes.

[@CheapskateMotorsports]

I find it hilarious that no other manufacturer wants to innovate like what honda did with the NC platform. Every bike seems to follow the same template with the same awful economy figures with the same underwhelming engine configurations. But yeah let's add another 2cc to our overweight 250cc class with the same boring parallel twins and standard seating positions. But make sure to add fairings so the kids will buy them. You know the industry's fucked when an r125 is more sporty than the r3

[@jclar3565]

I have an Outrider Alpha electric bicycle trike that has a better battery capacity and goes fairly fast too. That being said , it's the same price. Nonetheless this bike should have a little bit better range or a swappable modular battery

[@justinsn956]

So just because we've got electric motors, now we've got to have all these updates?

[@rendezvous_with]

stopped watching 40s in after seeing the rider in jeans and tennis shoes

[@starwarsfanforlife]

Looks great and all, and I love that it is an EV since I own a Tesla, but for long rides with friends it would take too long to charge and with limited places especially at the cost in places etc. it would not be my choice sadly. I would still have to get a gas powered motorcycle.

[@joej2353]

There’s a lot of motorcycle you can buy for that kind of money. As for zero emission, I’m doing my part every time I opt for my Kawasaki 650 over my Dodge 1500.

[@fireoil]

Really nice. But it can’t match a 2000€ motorcycle you can ride for an improvised weekend for 1200 km like i did last weekend to go to see the Dutch GP. I would loose pretty mutch time to recharge it !

[@supersprit5733]

$19K for 166 mile, checkout Emflux One and Revolt RV 400

[@kalel33]

Revolt is a 150cc equivalent that's top speed is 52mph and 96 mile range. That's like comparing a Grom to a MT09. Emflux One is still a prototype and they haven't even shown a manufacturing model, with no pricing or final specs.

[@learning2fly]

Great video!