MSFS2020 & MSFS2024 *BEST* DLSS TOOL- FPS+, Clarity+, Performance+ Full tutorial-Time Stamped

[@2020fsers]

******** DLSS PRESETS -- it looks like v6.7 also has dlss presets E & F however to use them in v7.0 and 6.7 you need to use the dlss upscaling method in the tool if you are using fsr you do not have those presets available which makes me think if they are not available for fsr possibly fsr doesn't use presets like Dlss so setting presets in the inspector may not actually do anything if using the fsr scaling method**************

[@brittanymcguire7996]

Been using this for a long time and by far the best....

[@2020fsers]

yes its come a long way and is now the best tool to use for dlss for sure , thanks for the comment

[@francoisrumley8236]

Another great video. Thanks. As you said in the beginning it's quite intense.

[@2020fsers]

Thanks 👌

[@guylarochelle9793]

Thanks for your efforts here. But this is way too complicated. You should make a video for AMD users and another one for NVidia users. The whole tool would benefit from a better automated install/uninstall because on my rig (MSFS 2024, RTX 4090, using DLSS Swapper and Tweaks already) I tried various approaches and I ended up with either CTDs at the launch, or not having DLSS anymore as an option… Horrible experience… I would like to try it, but it just won’t install correctly.

[@2020fsers]

The dlss enabler is the easiest install to try if the others don't work for you . It has an installer so you just click on what you want to install and hit install

[@skipciman9097]

Great video again. Is there any real value in all of this for VR? I have just got into vr. Thanks Skip

[@2020fsers]

Thanks for the comment. There's value in this entire video for VR. That's why I posted it in the thumbnail, in the description, and at the beginning of the video.

[@2020fsers]

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[@rahalwidanagamage]

Thank you for your video. You are the best 👍

[@2020fsers]

You're welcome 😊

[@MrSOdgaard]

Thanks for your video. So how does this go with “Open XR Toolkit Companion APP”. Can they run in parallel and are they simply adjusting the same settings or are either of them a layer inbetween the different layers (MSFS, NVIDIA, etc)… Cheers Stephen

[@2020fsers]

yes they can be run together. i use mine with the optiscaler and is fine

[@DaveBrown1]

Thanks for this and big thanks to the devs

[@2020fsers]

Your welcome

[@Buddy308]

There's a very important question that needs answering before installing Optiscaler. Just who needs these tools? For example, I have a 4090/5800X3D running at 1440 on one ultrawide 34" monitor. In 2020, I've never benefited from DLSS or Frame Gen. They're not better than TAA on my setup, and frame rates are perfectly adequate without them. If that's the case, how might the tools improve performance??

[@2020fsers]

the tool will not help if not using dlss . if using taa dont bother to watch the video.

[@Buddy308]

@ Thanks, I get that point, but it doesn't answer my question. What I am wanting to know is if these tools can yield performance that's better than TAA. The installation is too tedious to go through if it's inadvisable for my setup (5800X3D, 4090, 2TB 980 Pro SSD on a 1440 monitor).

[@2020fsers]

@Buddy308 performance is subjective . You need to be more specific.. are you talking about charity or fps or stutters. Yes you get much more fps using frame gen . . Dlss in dlaa is much clearer than default dlaa with the sharpening and upscaling options . Taa is probably still clearer but that is subjective to everyone's pc some dlaa is better and others not . I can only show you what I can on my pc and my reaults. I don't speculate for what it can do for you idk that is for you and your pc to find out.

[@Inserico]

For some reason my 2024 installation contents folder sits under C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.Limitless_... as a shortcut and without the actual Contents folder, but everything is there.

[@2020fsers]

yeah msfs has been found in many diff spots so as long as the main exe file is in that folder then you are good . that is the folder everything needs to go into

[@poolhallshark]

Same here 🙂

[@HeliSimDriver]

Thank you for this very detailed explanation However, what is becoming painfully evident to me is that tuning MSFS is becoming rocket science. It’s incredible that mere mortals who just want to pretend they are pilots have to go to this level of detail to make the sim operate the way it should operate out of the box. Assuming these changes make the sim run better, it begs the question of what will happen when Microsoft does an update which affects these changes or whether any MSFS updates will not play well with these changes. I can already hear complaints about crashes after an MSFS update, with people blaming Microsoft for the crashes. Even if these changes work as intended, personally, I will wait until Microsoft implements those changes as defaults in the sim. Much safer in my opinion, unless the current sim version is unplayable because of very poor performance. I guess that is a personal choice which also depends on the type of hardware that is being used to play MSFS.

[@2020fsers]

Thanks for the comment this tool will only affect dlss and this tool is also used for any other game or simulator this is also running separately within the exe folder and is putting a wrapper around the Sims so that we can access all of the various settings for dlss that you normally can't so you're not actually modifying or changing any main files for the simulator.

[@HeliSimDriver]

@ Ok, I get it. I still hate that we may need to do anything to get a better MSFS experience. My hope was that MSFS 2024 would have been better optimized, as they hinted before the release. It was supposed to run better than the 2020 version, and my experience is that there is no noticeable improvement at all. In fact, I get slightly better frame rates with DX11 in 2020 with the same graphic settings. I upgraded my CPU to a Ryzen 7 9800X3D and my video card is an RTX4090, so I foolishly hoped I could run the sim with Ultra settings in VR and get at least 60 FPS. 🤣😂🤣. Seriously, I’m not complaining about my results, just disappointed that 2024 is not visibly better than 2020, in my experience at least.

[@2020fsers]

I agree . Dx11 runs better for me and 2020 runs better also for me . But I have tweaked so many settings to get it to run that way lol. I was also hoping for 2024 to run better I was just talking with someone the other day about this and I think yes they made the Sim run better and is better optimized for multi-core processors and various other things however they've added so much more detail into the scenery that now detracts from the performance so the little performance that we did gain we lost by all the added scenery enhancements that they've added to the SIM

[@HeliSimDriver]

@ Let’s face it…we are all getting spoiled and expecting miracles. Not that long ago, we were complaining about memory leaks on long flights with FSX and now, we worry about how good the grass looks if we lower the graphic settings, or complain that we get occasional stutters if we fly at 600 mph at 100 ft above ground. 😂😂😂

[@poolhallshark]

@@HeliSimDriver I have a completely different experience. I was happy as can be already with MSFS 2020, but everything runs EVEN smoother and looks EVEN better for me now. In the Pimax Crystal and a 4090.

[@JBMetalProductions]

The things we do to flight sim.... It really is a chore sometimes. It never just "works".

[@2020fsers]

lol you got that right ! it took me 2 days to figure this tool out .. simply to get it to work without crashing lol

[@arafat86]

Good information but its way to complicated , i would recommend seperate videos for amd and nvidia . For someone using 4090 , 14900k or 9800x3d will this further give better quality n perofrmance

[@2020fsers]

check out the demo in sim and see what it can do .. thats why I did the demo . if not using dlss then this isnt for you . if you are maybe take a peak

[@philunited8119]

Can you do a video on your settings, because how are you only using 6GB of your VRAM and still have such clean textures? I was forced to lower my texture resolution to medium on a 2k resolution and still need all 10 GB of my VRAM

[@2020fsers]

Yes I will be doing a setting video soon. I don't necessarily like to show my settings but I will go through the process of balancing all of your settings just like I did for 2020 because what I have for my settings may not work for you so I would rather teach people how to get the best out of their system that'll be coming soon

[@claudelafrance4978]

Thanks!

[@2020fsers]

Your very welcome ... thank you so much for the support ❤️ 🙏 I appreciate that

[@_flyby]

Hello! Thank you for this great tutorial. I am setting it up for MS2020, optisacler v0.7.0 is running but I do not have the frame generation section available both at MS menu and on the optiscaler. Can you help please?

[@2020fsers]

Okay did you turn on Hardware accelerated GPU scheduling

[@_flyby]

@@2020fsers Thank you. If I understood correctly, if I have DLSS Enabler installed I do not need to enable HAGS right?

[@2020fsers]

@_flyby for my system the dlss enabler auto turned on hags for me . That's why I showed the log file to show everyone . Then you can update the file inside with the updated optiscaler like I showed in the video.

[@_flyby]

@@2020fsers Hello. Thank you. Please clarify. With MS2020 that I just run in DX11 I must use v6.7 and not DLSS Enabler. With MS 2024 I can use v7.0 that works or DLSS Enabler. Using DLSS Enabler I can update the file to v7.0.

[@2020fsers]

if you are using msfs2020 and dx11 then you can only use the optiscaler v7.0 or 6.7 . according to the dlss enabler site it says works only with dx12 so i assume it will not work if using dx11 on msfs2020

[@taketotheskies6950]

Would you say ultra quality is better to enable than dlaa for DLSS? Also is the 7.0 frame gen options going to do the same as 6.7 dynampic frame gen with the cpu mainthread improvement. Using a 4090 btw.

[@2020fsers]

Dlaa looks better for me on monitor however in VR I cannot use dlaa. As far as the dynamic frame gen option I'm not sure about that. However if version 7.0 works for you then you can use the dlss enabler tool and update the file inside of it as I show to versions 7.0. I was not able to do that because 7.0 doesn't work for me.

[@taketotheskies6950]

@@2020fsers I see, ok

[@taketotheskies6950]

@2020fsers Also how do you enable the dlss preset options in nvidia profile inspector so I can choose profile F because I don't see DLSS section there?

[@2020fsers]

You need to watch the video that I have in the description because there's an XML file that you need to insert into the folder.

[@taketotheskies6950]

@@2020fsers 👍

[@mobbe123]

Hello, great video. I'm gonna get a new system for msfs 2024, can you tell what is your system? Thanks

[@2020fsers]

I actually have an older system. I have an i9 10850k with 64gb ram . And 4080super. Ddr4 memory still. I'm holding out as long as I can

[@mobbe123]

@@2020fsers I have a intel I7 8700K with 32 Gig and the RTX4070 super. From what I see I can't only use msfs 2024 at low settings!!

[@2020fsers]

dont listen to what people tell you ... Test things out for yourself you will be surprised . keep the lods on 100 and tune all the other settings and try to keep the cpu and gpu latency about even .

[@matts7653]

The fact that independent modders can optimize the game like this is just embarrassing for Asobo. How do you release a game without the latest DLSS and FSR versions in the first place. The tools are right there, but they don't bother.

[@2020fsers]

thats true some of the easiest things to update they dont

[@ToxinuousTT]

is this basically lossless scaling with better optimisation for msfs?

[@2020fsers]

This has way more options than lossless scaling and it's free

[@ToxinuousTT]

@2020fsers correct thanks for replying 👍

[@georgegeranios2918]

Is this anything like The Opti-grab?

[@JohnIdzerda]

Thank you for this very detailed explanation, I installed Optiscaler 0.6.7, but when I press the Ins key nothing happens, anyone has an suggestion?

[@2020fsers]

are you in dlss mode in the sim?

[@markhodgson6479]

I followed the steps exactly for the DLSS enabler version and my SIM won't get past 6% in the loading screen 😕

[@2020fsers]

this shouldnt affect the loading unless it crashes like v7.0 does for me . however with this install click the un install and try and load up again to see if that was the cause

[@poolhallshark]

Oh my. This video must have been an absolute nightmare to make, so thanks a million for the effort! I feel that if I were flying on a monitor, I would probably try this. But I have less than 3 hours over the last 4 years, so that's not gonna happen anytime soon I think. I really hope that someone will try this is VR and leave the results here. Personally I'll wait, as I'm super happy with the way things already are in the 2024 edition. Can you say anything more about what the differences were in VR, if you tried? And with which headset in that case. I'm on a 4090 and the Pimax Crystal and things are super smooth 🙂 Love from Norway ♥♥♥♥♥

[@2020fsers]

Yes it was a headache to make this and I confuse myself several times and had to go back and re-watch the video to make sure that I didn't do anything wrong.. but yes this works perfectly fine in VR I use a pimax Crystal on a 4080 super. The only thing that does not work is frame generation all of the other settings are applicable the FSR upscaler really helps with Clarity in VR although you cannot set presets when you're using FSR I found that out later on I have a pinned comment on that however it does help clear up the glass panels and I like the feature that everything is on the fly I can change it without exiting the SIM which is really nice this way I can dial in each of my dlss quality settings for VR and it makes it much easier.. I worked on this video every bit of 18hrs lol labor of love

[@poolhallshark]

@@2020fsers Thanks for the reply, buddy. I agree, making changes on the fly is a great plus😉😊

[@aadeshphalgun6756]

after this i cant see msfs 24 on dlss swapper it says DLSS was not detected in MSFS2024

[@2020fsers]

This shouldn't have affected that as you see in the video I have it in my swapper. I guess for the interim just use the direct download

[@TheAcousticCitizen]

This is oddly, very oddly similar to the Uniscaler mod from LukeFZ...

[@2020fsers]

I believe that is 1 of the devs behind the project .. I'm not 100 but I remember seeing that name

[@TheAcousticCitizen]

@ interesting. I might try this one then when I get FS2024.

[@JMD-z7j]

msfs2020 steam version will not start with optiscaler files :(

[@2020fsers]

With either version ?

[@2020fsers]

Are you using dx11 or 12 in msfs 2020

[@JMD-z7j]

@@2020fsers with version 7.0 both dx11 and dx12

[@2020fsers]

That's unfortunate you may not be able to use it on your system it's really weird just like version 7.0 doesn't work on my system it won't even boot up the Sim that is

[@JMD-z7j]

@@2020fsers Version 6.7 worked!

[@edwardpiroska9757]

How do I know if I'm running DX12 or if its available to me?

[@2020fsers]

What sim are you using ? Msfs 2024 is a dx12 only and msfs 2020 is dx11 and 12 . It's in your graphic settings

[@edwardpiroska9757]

@@2020fsers I am running MSFS 2024. So there is no choice for 11 or 12? It runs DX12 only?

[@2020fsers]

@edwardpiroska9757 correct msfs 2024 is dx12

[@edwardpiroska9757]

@@2020fsers I installed OptiScaler V7.0 and getting an error message during startup saying "Flight Simulator2024.exe has stopped working". This was after uninstalling MSFS2024 and then reinstalling to make sure I had the new version update 1.2.7.0. I also checked DLSS swapper to make sure I am using v3.8.10.

[@edwardpiroska9757]

Also curious why the amd_fideleityfx_dx12.dll file is renamed with the .bak extension and a file with the same name and .dll extension is in the OptiScaler v7.0 files. Those files are copied over to to the flight sim folder so a file that was changed to .bak is reinstalled with the previous.dll extension.

[@Poseidon6363]

Good lord that's complicated.

[@2020fsers]

It may seem that way only because I went over all installs but if v7.0 works for you it's really easy .

[@robskey]

This video newer help

[@BrandenGwin]

Maybe start off by talking about why someone would need this? or how you might possibly see improvements.. 10 min into the video and i realize, why am i watching this

[@2020fsers]

thats why i have chapters so you can watch the chapter "demo in sim" first then if you want to go through the install you will know what it can do.

[@article1934]

don't put this garbage on your machine....

[@2020fsers]

This works very well . But you have the option to not use it that is your call. I'm just showing what is available for people to utilize to get more customization in the sim and on the fly changes . Thanks for your comment