*FIXED* MSFS 2024 Broken Traffic Model Injection | FSLTL, FSTraffic for VATSIM, BeyondATC & FSHud

[@chriswright5016]

Very interesting video, thanks Gavin. I had exactly the same experience with FSLTL for BATC. It's a bit of a mystery, but what I think happened, in my case at least, was that my initial FSLTL install was incomplete. The FSLTL base models folder I copied into the 2024 Community folder was missing quite a lot of stuff. Just like you did, I then changed the download directory and all was good.

[@oj1818]

BeyondATC is the best thing i bought. Worth every penny and is performance friendly too. Now AI traffic is available to basic pack too

[@PracticallyGeek]

Personally i prefer the sounds from FSLTL but the models themselves look better from Just Flight. Thank you for the helpful video 👍

[@grayal11]

I can confirm this is a resized texture issue. Using FSLTL models after mush testing. Only a fresh install of UN resized textures works. Any resizing of the textures to ANY resolution causes them to not show up. They ARE being injected into the sim but they are invisible. PUSH tugs will show up for example with BATCs injector. But the planes themselves are invisible.

[@MrKapeji]

Yes, found this as well (actually it is in the BATC troubleshooting guide) I had resized the fsltl textures and nothing showed, but it di show in LNM and the BATC map, once I replaced those with the full size files all was well again.

[@GarrisIiari]

Verified with FSHud as well. The simulator itself does not seem to be injecting resized models. However, unlike 2020, it appears that 2024 handles injected models far better and there really is no FPS gain to the scaled down models in 2024.

[@TisMeCraigT]

Came here to say the same! It's an issue with the reduced textures mod. Luckily I still had the 4k FSLTL models stored elsewhere and once I switched the folders I had working traffic again

[@GarrisIiari]

@@TisMeCraigT Yup, long ago learned the lesson to never delete a flight sim asset 😁.

[@BernardLangham]

the FSLTL injector definitely works. i've been using it during Career mode, and it does a sterling job.

[@TheSaintArmando]

"Update: MSFS2024 version 1.2.7.0 has been released. The good: The issue with the sim parking aircraft on the same spot over and over has been fixed Lighting direction on aircraft models appears to be fixed as well. The bad (still exist in latest update): Aircraft parking is still not based on parking codes. The sim seems to prefer to use parking with no airlineCodes assigned, before using other parking. But aircraft are not placed in the scenery with any attempt to match the livery parking codes and that in the scenery. Aircraft can get stuck in pushback. It appears that if the taxipath leading to the parking spot in the scenery is short, the aircraft will get stuck in pushback and never go anywhere. Instead it, slowly starts to rotate sideways, and remains in place. The spinning slowly increases... similar to an old issue in MSFS2020. Aircraft on arrival is pretty much broken. Aircraft often never switch to a landing state, instead, flying to the center point of the airport at a low altitude before finally crashing offsite, and then attempt to taxi back to the airport. You will see the occasional landing, but its not common right now (this may also be an issue with in-sim live traffic) Some aircraft seem to ignore flightplans, and similar to the old days in MSFS2020, will turn around and head the opposite direction of the destination airport. And quite a few less serious issues with jetways, ground vehicles, preflight and postflight times, etc. Therefore, at this time, we still can't recommend using FSLTL with MSFS2024. You certainly can if you wish, but as these issues aren't issues we can fix or workaround with the injector, we can't offer support in MSFS2024's current state. Appreciate your continued patience, and we'll provide more updates when we have them. " Far from a "sterling job" but yes, it does work-ish.

[@flyingpedal]

This is what I did after discussing with you and I posted the solution from the BATC discord because their documentation was not so explicit like your video. Nevertheless BATC made a very good job with their traffic injection.

[@jay-rus4437]

Its almost unbelievable to me that we dont have reasonable traffic injection built within the new sim. Do they just want us to be forced to run traffic injectors, addon atc etc.? Seriously, how can they work on a new sim and then give is the most ridiculous sounding voices and terrible generic aircraft.

[@Nate.France]

how do i add fsltl i cant get it into the vpilot model matching thing

[@speedbrakes365]

Any one with the issue, when loading the flight in MSFS2024 gets this message? ERROR ACCESSING LIVE AIR TRAFFIC DATA? Please help

[@airlinepilotdude]

One thing I noticed in FS24, I did not see any extra VRAM usage using BATC traffic with FSLTL 4k pack.

[@and696]

Hi!! What about AIG modelmaching? I m using just this and up to yesterday I have problem ... can not see the traffic..

[@docd3d]

I suspect it’s because of that mod that reduces texture-size. I remember you did a short review of it a while ago. I read -somewhere- that that’s what causes the models to not appear. I first tried this yesterday and used my old directory with the files in it. And it crashed the sim completely. After reinstalling fstl from the FBW installer, everything worked as it should. The directory size was about doubled as I also did that magic mod thing is to reduce the texturesize so from my experience, that might be the culprit here as well..

[@Easyjetsimpilot]

Good point.

[@stevem4005]

Only issue I had with BATC and FSLTL was if you have resized the FSLTL models to 2K for example, then when using BATC you cannot see them in MS2024 after the latest patch (patch 3). It will only work if they are the original 4K versions, which is a pain as instead of about 14.6 GB at 2K, they are about 40.7 GB at 4K! MS2020 however works fine with them at 2K.

[@Kernow_Dave]

Thought it used the first vrm, but if model not there, then shows second vrm in line? So are you sure each vrm is working in depended

[@Philmo888]

Good stuff - I will go ahead get Beyond ATC now it seems it can use and inject the FSLTL models. To be very clear (I did ask in your last video) am I right in saying that Beyond ATC needs models from other programmes for its injection system to work ? Thanks

[@joshmerriman115]

It does yes

[@Easyjetsimpilot]

That's correct. BATC does not have its own models.

[@SteveSmith-hw7kb]

I had no issue getting BATC to work using FSLTL. I did install this after the big update. What I can't do is turn AI traffic off even though I have it set to off. Really annoying as I get planes parked on top of each other. Has anyone cured this or are we waiting for ASOBO?

[@emsss78]

Same problem here, I had AI traffic getting on top of each other. Not sure what else to do

[@rhpa23]

Did you rescale the textures using Textureoptimizer tool? Maybe this may have been the cause of the issue.

[@Easyjetsimpilot]

I did, and it seems it was.

[@Petercrossed]

I just copied the folders and pasted into the 2024 community folder. I'm getting some planes double parking or on their sides. Do you think that would be the culprit ? BATC is working so far. I assume the Online traffic is not available, which I also get, is MSFS related ?

[@musiqtee]

As Gav says towards the end - reinstall. 😊 This isn’t a specific MSFS or addon issue, says silly me with some general IT management on my back… There’s often more to an installer application than what (in this case) goes into the community folder. From some simple INI-files, to registry data or API middleware, to checking files & settings... So, the devs make installer apps to take care of all this other stuff too. Hack on your own if proficient (many are, good fun & frustrations), or simply run the installation app (or script, guideline, how-to etc.). It’s a computer, after all…😅

[@Petercrossed]

@musiqtee Ya that's what I just did.

[@Vanzulu]

I have all my addons like FSLTL in a shared MSFS community addon folder and use msfs Addon linker to enable the ones I want in 2020 or 2024

[@guidowieringa9174]

one things fixed, one new thing broken... how amazing!

[@elbapino6531]

thks thks thks friend

[@TVSALMOS]

I bought BATC but returned it. I asked for a refund. I'm going to stick with FSHud anyway.

[@NookaNifty]

I got rid of the fstraffic already a while back, seems I dodged a bullet because of that

[@Dr.GD4]

JustFlight is updating FSTraffic in a couple weeks.

[@bradclooney69]

“fixed”

[@psour33]

I like to alone in the sky so all my sims' traffics are off.

[@Vanzulu]

I have all my addons like FSLTL in a shared MSFS community addon folder and use msfs Addon linker to enable the ones I want in 2020 or 2024