2021 Commencal Meta HT - Review And Build!

[@petersledz67]

I've got the 2018 Origin. Very happy with it. This bike handles everything. Just upgraded it as soon as the parts were broken or worn out. The only original parts now are the fork, frame, handlebar & stem.

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Thats awesome and thats basically what I did with my 2019 as well! i have been 100% happy with this bike both the old one and the new one. :)

[@Ricochetmex]

The other day I went for the first time to a mtb trail, it was a black diamond flowy trail. I was the only one with a hardtail, a 2019 commencal meta ht, and it was amazing! I didn’t felt like I needed “more” bike. I kept the pace with the other riders with propper downhill bikes. Hardtails are super capable. By the way the 2021 colors are beautiful...

[@MartenRun]

And if anyone is (like me) suffering of sore hands, try vibracore bars!(spank). I ride an NS HT frame with 11-42,175 cranks, NS pedals and 800 bar with vibracore. And Ergon grips. It really helped me out with sore hand problem! Find your size on grips, almost one of the most important things. I tend to spend to much money on chains, cassette i buy cheep ones and switch them often. (Sunrace). Commercial and NS is in my opinion the most interesting frames for HT builds. Thanks for the nice review! Keep them coming!

[@jessicahaydahlrichardson7951]

I ordered a meta ht 2021 frame after watching all of your videos! I’m excited for the build ahead!

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Thats so awesome! I'm so pumped to hear that. I know you will love it!!!

[@yamahschector]

Your video is great is saved me the headache of the part you show at 16:50. I had no idea what it was and thy it was in the darn box.

[@andrewvenditelli152]

Now that you've had the 2021 frame for a while how's the stiffness compare to your previous Commencal? You pointed out the geometry difference in the rear triangle, curious if it seems to absorb the rocks and chop any better. Looking at the 2021 Meta HT or Nukeproof Scout. Combination of flowing smooth trails and some really rocky (typical Northeast US) sections where I plan on riding. Thanks for the vids.

[@George-je1fs]

Did you get one of these? I'm choosing between the exact same bikes rn, not that there in stock lol

[@IamSeafarer]

Such a sick bike. Love my essential in the washed-out mint. I see you're rocking the bud-lite lime, a man of culture.

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

The taste of summer!!

[@sirivia7208]

Was the SX eagle fine? I'm looking at buying the essential too but I've heard the derailleur snaps off early and is made of plastic.

[@Karpalet]

Can't wait to get mine! Pre-ordered a ready build L-size from commencal UK, just received mail yesterday it had been shipped! Probably gonna get my hands on it next week (Finland)! So excited about this bike. :--)

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

You will love it!!

[@snoopdutt1985]

You didn't go for a Pole! 🇫🇮

[@colten4355]

That color looks sick with the orange fork, sweet build!

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Thanks Colten! Im super pumped with the way she turned out!

[@RoshanJayachandar]

I ordered the Origin 2021 a couple weeks back! So excited

[@pknark]

Wanting a hardtail again. They are so damn good looking (good choice on the beer)

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

I agree!!! And you may be the first one to on board with my beer choice! hahah Cheers!

[@lukerisser9163]

I ordered that same bike. It’s on the way. I order the complete build and then I’ll probly just swap the fork to a dvo diamond. I’m stoked to have a bike that I can take to the dirt jump park and the downhill park!

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

I truly feel it is a do it all bike! A DVO diamond would be sick on this bike!

[@jmorbangal8913]

how long have you been waiting to get your bike?

[@lukerisser9163]

My build doesn’t come until October

[@danfarmer_photo]

So good bro! I have the graphite colour frame in the garage at the moment that I am building up. It should be ready by the end of the week !

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

I almost go that one as well! lso a super sick looking frame colour!

[@colten4355]

Also if you want some really nice grips with a wider grip and are super comfy check out the Diety Knuckle Dusters. They're my go to for any bike now!

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

I will look into the homie! Thanks so much!

[@jamescliftonbates]

Heck yeah dude! Looks fantastic! Proud to be shredding the same frame as this monster shredder babyyy!

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Hell ya brother!!!!

[@williamhumphries4094]

How tall are you since you ended up buying a 2021 large frame? I've noticed that the reach on the large is shorter than a lot of other aggressive hardtails.

[@mattkeegan7515]

I just built and finished building my meta am ht essential and it’s great

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Love this Bike! just had it out at whistler bike park for her first shake down!

[@vinserts]

Ben Yorke - Mr. Hardtail what do you think of the Banshee Paradox? Thats the other HT that I’m looking at

[@hxcdynasty]

I built my 2021 meta HT am up with a 170mm fork and it’s amazing! Also feel your pain with the foam. It’s was a pain to install but worth it!

[@cok666joey]

I got mine yesterday! Ride edition so same color but with their build. Imma wrap it in some 3M, this paint is too nice to mess up ;) I still find the seattube a bit high, at 6ft tall with a size large I will not be able to fit much more than a 100mm dropper. Can't wait to see you beat that thing up. \m/

[@lukerisser9163]

On the website, the saddle looks like it’s gold and not sand wich would match the paint color like it’s supposed to. Is it gold or sand?

[@cok666joey]

@@lukerisser9163 it matches the frame color pretty good, but the frame has matte paint and the saddle is rather shiny so thats not a perfect fit.

[@Srdeo33]

Is the internal width for Bontrager line 40 wheel really 37mm? Spec sheet says 40mm internal. I am looking for 40mm internal width rim and was looking at line 40 comp.

[@OlHoch]

I have them on my bike, and measured them at 40mm internal.

[@Srdeo33]

@@OlHoch Thanks so much

[@jacob_d_f]

Thanks for this review! the Meta HT is now on my radar for my next Hardtail. I’m now torn between the Meta HT, the Marin San Quinten and the Marin El Roy.

[@pricrd22]

I was definitely between last year's bike and this years. I chose this one because of the seat tube length (I'm an L). Build came with 27.5+ which I've never ridden but maybe the perfect hardtail tire to rip on. That being said...my only complaint...is I loved the branding on the downtube underneath from last. Similar to the orange fork...I just thought it looked cool. Cheers and safe riding!

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

I love the 27.5 with 2.6 tires and I even came from a 29 setup before! and as for the colour I totally hear ya! I loved the matching gold goodness!!!

[@raulespinoza5819]

Fully agree with you Shimano brakes are awesome

[@zalyboards_fb]

I just got the Essential build in green partly due to the shredding done on this channel!!! Now we really have the same bike!!!

[@zZTharosXx]

Looking at getting the Essential as my first aggressive HT (currently riding an old norco xc). Is it a good choice for someone that wants to hit trails/jumps and some downhill/bike park?This would be my first "Good" bike purchase.

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Yes dude!!! love it!!!

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

@@zZTharosXx You will love it for all of that! thats what I do with it :)

[@prolificbreedaquatics]

You’re super fast at putting the bike together! Love the sand color. I have the frame in graphite.. slowly gathering all the parts.

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

haha I tried to be quick for all of you :). And dude that graphite colour looks awesome!!! I was battling between sand and graphite! both look killer!

[@amatureAdamsedits]

G’day. Can I ask what rear brake adapter you are using. I’m starting my build of my hard tail. I will be fitting 203 rotor on the rear. Great video. Have gone back to watch more of what you do. Cheers

[@mattf7132]

Dude Ikkkkkk he needs to tell us

[@FrANTiXzz]

What a place for a review and beer

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Heck yes! But the darn trains going by in the background! hahaha

[@prolificbreedaquatics]

Can you tell me more about the forks? We can run 27.5 wheels on a 29er fork?

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

100% you can! I believe the over all fork is just a tad longer the the 27.5 built form but were talking very minimal! much easier the have a 29 set up and run 27.5 the a 27.5 set and try and run 29..... at least thats how I looked at it. that being said I still love 27.5 because a can run fatter tires.

[@simplymtb495]

Nice build sir.. been watching ur vid. Quite a while now.. nice frame.. Sadly i can't buy like that to expensive in our place. Thanks for sharing...godbless

[@jasonfish4497]

Best review I’ve watched/read on this bike. Pretty positive I’m going to pre-order mine just curious what your thought on the 35 gold forks that come on the bike. Seen a lot of people complain about issues

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Thanks for the kind words!! I have not used the 35 gold forks myself as my old build came with the rockshox Yari. and that was a basic fork but felt quite good actually... most forks even basic one you should be able to set up good just with so time and tinkering. :)

[@justgo4033]

I have a 35 on mine and they are not bad but are sticky . I heard some guys having quite a few problems with them but mine aren’t to bad but im still thinking about sending them back or rebuilt . I heard RockShox built the lowers out of spec and will fix them . The yari is way smoother and i think thats what im gonna get .

[@lefterisgeorgiadis4848]

@@justgo4033 35 witch model silver or gold?

[@justgo4033]

@@lefterisgeorgiadis4848 mine is the 35 gold debonair . To tell the truth the 35 arent bad for general trail riding but i went to Fernie and when things get gnarly it feels rough . I just got a fox 36 170mm travel of the commencal web site , i’m sure it will be better.

[@jtbfuelriders1183]

will a 200mm travel dropper seat fit in the seat tube?

[@amatureAdamsedits]

G’day any word on what type of rear brake adapter. Nearly finished my 2021 meta ht am build. Yet to find info on the adapter type. Cheers great content 👍

[@douglawrence4066]

Love the Channel, lemme know if you ever want to ride in Vic. My Chromag and I would love to show you around!

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

I'm 100% down add a brother on Facebook if you have it and we can for sure link up!

[@TeamCykelhold]

Great bike. I never understood hardtail partys dislike for it.

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

I agree! But I guess we do completely different styles of riding. :)

[@jasonlewis6914]

Sick hardtail man. All though I own a full suspension bike. I just can't stop riding my hardtail most of the time 👊

[@cronneloctopus1]

Awesome build Ben! I just got my Meta HT Ride build this week and love it. Any tips on cleaning the matte frame?

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Awesome to hear Sam! And Yes I do have an awesome tip! Use a "magic eraser" works awesome!! www.walmart.ca/en/ip/mr-clean-magic-eraser-multi-surface-cleaner/6000050443336

[@cok666joey]

Got mine not long ago and yeah, they are quite hard to clean. Soft rag and dish soap works, but I was used to just hosing the dirt off with my previous bikes.

[@cronneloctopus1]

@@BenYorkeMrHardtail Thanks for the tip!

[@cronneloctopus1]

@@cok666joey Yes, I heard hosing was not great for the matte finish.

[@petrcivis641]

Hi. Could you tell what offset is your 29er fork on your Meta HT? 51mm or 44mm. Thanks.

[@ryanakins]

Yooo, nice man. Just got myself the essential in the new green color. Digging the tan!

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

I really like all the colours for the most part they have been coming out with on the Meta HT bikes. They all look so darn good!

[@bike_somm]

Nice man! Stoked on your stoke 🚲✌🏼😛 absolutely Grip2 best buttery feeling ever while still feeling Racey & supportive🏁🏆👏🏼

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

100p baby!!! Ya I was blown away when I first got it. Thanks so much for the comment!!

[@Noah.bonte909]

Yes dude i'm gonna get the meta ht am rit

[@Gdownification]

Hey, that’s an awesome looking bike! I jut finished building the sage/mint meta ht up from the frame, and I’m very happy with it. The bike rides nearly as hard as my full sus, with an extra fun factor lol. I was wondering, I’m seriously thinking about upgrading the fork (I put on a Suntour Aion 35 I had lying around to save $), and I’m between a Lyrik Ultimate and a Fox 36 Grip 2. Just wondering what you thought of the two, especially since you ride the fox 36. Thanks!

[@Som1getDvagisl]

Can you look at the 2021 Ht race and let me know what you thunk if the specs. I pre ordered mine

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Sorry for the late reply! Just went over the build! It actually looks really good! with Shimano brakes and drivetrain, and a fox 36 up front! and even comes with a dropper post, great build for the price. only downside I would say is i'm now a huge fan of the Hubs that come on it. "formula hubs" They work just fine. but If you looking to really go hard on the bike they may go within a year or so. but honestly the build looks awesome! I would 100% run that setup as is no problem. :)

[@Som1getDvagisl]

Ben Yorke - Mr. Hardtail damn man, thank you for this. It gives me a peace of mind.

[@lefterisgeorgiadis4848]

Hey bro im about to choose between sand and brg colour can you give an advice about witch one to choose

[@andreasstavropoulos5432]

I bought this bike on Thursday and I got a large because I’m 5,8 and I’m in my early teens and I got a large and I thought it would be to big for me this summer looking at his old seat tube and it was long so I was worried and I didn’t realize the shortened it and when I heard I went crazy thank you mr hardtail

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Dude! You'r going to love this thing! and I think the size is still great for you!! I'm Pumped I was able to help give some info!

[@neilfpv]

I love the color and now I'm tempted to get it instead of Sentier 27 vr. What would be your advice to me?

[@VancouverTrailShredders]

You're the best bro!!! Makes me want to get an ht again, but I know my back won't agree 😕

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

No your the best! And as long as your able to get out and ride any bike and have a blast then your winning baby!!!!

[@lincolnbruce3916]

NZ'r here. You say you are on a Large. I'm 6'2'' and wondering whether to order L or XL. How's the reach on the L for someone my height you reckon? XL better option?

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Hey Lincoln I.'m also 6'2 and I feel the large fits great. but that being said you can easily run an XL. both will fit you good. you just need to figure out if you want to run a bigger steady frame. Or a smaller more playful frame. I love a playful hardtail os I'm large all the way! :) hope this helps!

[@valeraanovsk1468]

@@BenYorkeMrHardtail is it still possible to do some jumps and versatile riding on a bigger XL? (I’m 6’2 too lol) I feel like I’d love a more steady frame but at the same time would like to do some dirt jump-ish like stuff (which requires some playfulness I believe) occasionally

[@MrCjrodriguez]

Thanks for making this video. Love the color!

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

I think the large would suit ya pretty good. i'm 6'2 and I run the large. but I run my bikes a bit small. regardless I don't think you will go wrong :) And thanks my dude!!

[@MrCjrodriguez]

Ben Yorke - Mr. Hardtail hey thanks for the response. I edited my comment when I saw your other video review. 🙂

[@georgebailey6307]

sweet bike! Very informative vid, thanks Ben..

[@romanandluka9888]

Hello, I'm looking to buy a 2021 Commencal but on the website it says pre-order. I heard that they started shipping in August though, and have seen people already have 2021 models, so I was wondering if you could confirm. Thanks!

[@adamf.8564]

Nice video as always! Hey Ben, what is the clamp's and droppers diameter exactly? How do you buy the frame only on the website? It seems they only sell completely built bikes. Thanks.

[@Eri94]

Hows the quality of the bike? I ordered a frame a few years back to build and it had quite a bit of quality control issues. I'm loving the look of the 2021 HT and want to get it but I'm a bit reserved on going back to the company.

[@DZ-bb4tm]

I just ordered my meta ht drive today. Im a beginner and hopes it performes well... Years ago i loved to ride dirt with my norco 125, then stopped riding bike. After a few years and a lot of reviews over this bike, i give it a try. What do you think about the fork RS 35 Gold RL newest version that comes with the Drive? Is it good enough for beginners? I dont jump hard or something, just smooth trials and little jumps. Good Reviews as always, keep doing your thing

[@lukerisser9163]

The rockshox 35 gold rl is more than what you need for beginner riding. I’ve used it at downhill parks, jump parks, and everything in between. They have 35mm stanchions, which makes it burly enough for all kinds of riding. I upgraded to a dvo diamond, but as a beginner, that fork is more than you need.

[@DZ-bb4tm]

Luke Risser thank you mate! Thats cool man, nice to hear that👍🏼 i hope mine will also be good for everything. Im realy excited for this bike. Whats about de sram level brakes? I heard some mixed thoughts about that. I didnt get the origin version because of the worse fork and worse brakes than the drive version

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

@@DZ-bb4tm Im with Luke on this one as well! Great reply!

[@aaronfonseca6867]

what mudgaurd is that?

[@BlaKKoutGT]

Man I pre ordered mine in canada and it said est shipping date was July 22, still waiting for it but I'm getting antsy, so excited!

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

well they ship out from Squamish I believe and they just got in there a few days ago. so im guessing you will see her this week! I'm stoked for you my man!!

[@fatbaldmtbrider8640]

How much fork offset you got there Ben?

[@davehodson8688]

sweet setup, rouge grips have different clamp colors i have the purple ones

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Thats awesome to know! I actually really love these things!!

[@lefterisgeorgiadis4848]

whats about the color gets dirty easly or not?

[@sebipadeanu722]

Awesome bike and vid just keep it going BABYY

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

awwwww ya baby!!!!

[@markshapiro766]

Have another beer bro!

[@ondasports]

brra, I am 511, which size would you suggest for me? 29er

[@carterwinters2985]

If i am 16 and around 6 2 and am still growing should i go xl

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

If your still growing ya I say XL. sweet part is with the newer lower seat tube the negative side of having an XL frame should no longer be a factor. so ya go for the XL. :)

[@justgo4033]

Did you get just the frame and swapped the parts ? What sucks is that i got the 2020 and a week later the 2021 came out , i would’ve waited a bit to get it but i still dont regret my choice , i was in Canmore last weekend and had a blast . Cant wait to see your next videos to see how you like it , your bike looks sweet .

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

I did just swap parts from my 2019 to this one but put a new drivetrain, headset, cables and dropper lever the 2020 is just as great of a bike! and Canmore is a great area for riding! miss it over there!

[@yisusdesupreme8703]

What is your read hub?

[@Raoul11]

What a great looking bike , but this year i bought the Meta Tr Ride 2021 so same color as yours :D I might just sell my Meta HT 2020 sadly since i wont use it as much. I am a fan of Hardtail b ut its beating me up in the natural trail that we have in Quèbec :/ Can't wait to see you riding your new HT and hear about a review on it ! Keep it up men :P

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Nothing wrong with that my man! what ever allows you to have a fun and good time on the trails!! Im stoked for you new rig!!!! And thanks for the kind words!!

[@Raoul11]

@@BenYorkeMrHardtail Hell yeah :D i have to admit that the HT is super super fun for jumping and make the trail harder which give a great challenge. I definitely learned alot with my Meta HT !

[@ibby81ae]

What model?

[@lefterisgeorgiadis4848]

Does the colour gets scratched chipt off easily or not

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Hey brother! As much as I love the mat tan that I have. I find i gets marked up pretty easy. So I would go with a gloss finish! But if you do get the tan. I found the MR.Clean Magic erasers to work amazing at getting rid of marks on the frame.

[@johnq7731]

so nice new look!!

[@tinman8888]

Mate I have just ordered the 2021 Essential. I was planning on leaving the Yari's on there. They come with 2 tokens in already but can take 5. Thoughts on how many to run? (I am 5'10 and about 93kg's) Also it comes with 2.8' tires. I have been told it will ride heaps better with 2.6's??? (I will be running CushCore regardless) Appreciate the help. Cheers.

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

I quite enjoyed the yari on this bike as mine came with one as well. I ran 2 tokens with compression all the way open. and it ran great. as for tires. I love running 2.6. as its for grip speed and weight.

[@tinman8888]

@@BenYorkeMrHardtail Thsnks heaps mate

[@tinman8888]

@@BenYorkeMrHardtail Have just ordered 2 x Maxxis Dissectors in 2.6. 1 x EXO + WT for the arse end and 1 x EXO WT for the head, as its always dry and loose where I ride in Oz, Cushcore as well. And some 38mm R x 785mm W bars. I got the Gun Metal Grey bike. Can't wait for this to all get here. Its my first ever HT so mega pumped. Cheers again.

[@therealdirtydiary7942]

Awesome video great info thank you!

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Thanks for the great feedback!

[@MartenRun]

Cassette???

[@EthanBares]

Great video man! How tall are you? Just wondering for sizing comparison for me

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Thanks Ethan! I'm 6'2 and ride a large but.... I tend to ride my bikes a tad on the smaller size. as I really like a playful bike. :)

[@ChesterPerry187]

Great vid, I’m looking at buying this so great timing. I’m same height as you and looking at the large. Is a smaller bike advantageous?? I currently ride. Large Rocky Mountain xc but want something a bit more playful.

[@nickcsuki8123]

Cool build man... Have you seen the HT AM BRUSH? Sick brushed aluminum version of this frame! Just pre-ordered mine...

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

It looks sooooo good! Love that raw finish!

[@jestt600]

Cool bike bro

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Cheers my dude!!!

[@spicyberms7282]

Cant wait to see the video with you ripping this beauty!

[@12e2112]

Rise handlebar?

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Yes. 40mm rise 780mm width and 31.8 diameter.

[@beau7530]

how tall are u?

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

I'm 6'2 but also like to ride my bikes a little on the smaller side.

[@SerhiyMTB]

Sweet bike!

[@fengcarlos]

How tall are you buddy?

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

6’2

[@Daniel-tc4lz]

Get yourself an XO1 shifter and it's 100%!

[@Chris-mm6jv]

Love it, want one 🤙

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Cheers my dude!!!

[@tigerbalm666]

Train is coming!

[@sulejmanomerovic274]

That chair leg on the right gave me such bad anxiety i could not watch.

[@christopherdurand8912]

170mm of travel, sounds way over forked, also has to be upsetting the geometry on that frame.

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Bike is built to take up to 170mm of travel. For the last 8 months it seems to be doing just fine on the climbs and descends. :)

[@miltoskarametas1394]

why dont you talk about geo??...its 5 noumbers..make life easy

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

Because the Geo is the same as its been for the last 4 years... :) I talk about what's different. Feel free to check on my overview of the 2019 meta. Cheers!

[@BenYorkeMrHardtail]

www.commencalcanada.com/Mobile/meta-ht-am-origin-sand-2021-c2x31927685

[@chongkeh844]

Yow Mr hardtail I want your bike

[@michaelmcclure3383]

I think that hardtail party guy is sensitive to stiffness because he rides mostly on rock.

[@carloscorona7337]

Pon subtítulos en español :'(