This $130 MTB Air Fork works great until it doesn’t

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Berm Peak Express

Berm Peak Express

Күн бұрын

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@phonetech1109
@phonetech1109 2 жыл бұрын
I put one of these forks on my 12 year old son's bike and it has worked flawlessly for his riding. Most spring forks are too stiff for light riders, this fits the bill perfectly for them.
@EkskaliertHD
@EkskaliertHD 2 жыл бұрын
is it really worth for 130$ ? I thinking about that.
@cezarh5473
@cezarh5473 2 жыл бұрын
@@EkskaliertHD better get a used rockshox recon rl or reba
@EkskaliertHD
@EkskaliertHD 2 жыл бұрын
@@cezarh5473 used cost about 200€ but my Budget is lower
@cezarh5473
@cezarh5473 2 жыл бұрын
@@EkskaliertHD save a bit more, its worth it
@EkskaliertHD
@EkskaliertHD 2 жыл бұрын
@@cezarh5473 ok thanks buddy
@GCho733
@GCho733 2 жыл бұрын
This fork is basically a meme in the Philippine biking community.
@wellcarryon3849
@wellcarryon3849 2 жыл бұрын
ano ibig sabihin?
@ericibanez2225
@ericibanez2225 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Maybe because a lot of these forks had some issues. Saw lot of vids last year from facebook where this forks getting broken even they are just using it on pavement. Some users tho doesn't even experience this. Knew some people using them for a couple of years but still works perfectly fine. Might be some factory defects or what not. But we will never know. Maybe the company listened to the feedbacks/review made the forka a little bit better. But, at the end of the day we should invest to a little bit more expensive forks that proved them selves over the years. Buy cheap, buy twice
@EisMann61
@EisMann61 2 жыл бұрын
Bolantoy quickrelease yung crown
@thedoggoesskrrrt
@thedoggoesskrrrt 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericibanez2225 don't gamble with safety nga naman, To be honest pag ako sumasampa sa bike na naka bolany fork makita ko pa lang yung crown nya parang ayaw ko na pumedal at grabe yung flex nya at lumalagitnit pag pepreno ewan baka nasobrahan sa pagpapagaan at gusto gayahin yung design ni Fox
@jamespatrickaragona1704
@jamespatrickaragona1704 2 жыл бұрын
Bolantoy haha
@AntaresSQ01
@AntaresSQ01 2 жыл бұрын
Might be a good idea for the next iteration of the Smeasher to put the weight into some sort of a guide to ensure precise falling and hitting in the same spot
@snaXaminator
@snaXaminator 2 жыл бұрын
Also to be a fair test, the weight not to fall off a fork, and bounces multiple times on the other. On the other hand, the fork get the forxe on the axle, not on the bottom of the lower.
@siemens198195
@siemens198195 2 жыл бұрын
Why not connect a rope to the axle, run the rope up through a pulley and have the weight on the other end of the rope, creating a constant pulling force on the fork, allowing for much more precise measurements
@cedarwings82
@cedarwings82 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah honestly I’m surprised he is still doing a test this same way again considering how flawed it is lol.
@poopcicleog6629
@poopcicleog6629 2 жыл бұрын
Also, the impact should be directed precisely on the dropouts’ using the axle/dummy hub as it’s the wheel that would be impacted in a crash. The steerer should be clamped as close to the crown as possible to simulate where the frame stops flex.
@laurynasjagelo5075
@laurynasjagelo5075 2 жыл бұрын
guide rails
@SlowDelSol
@SlowDelSol 2 жыл бұрын
I love these budget builds and I’ve ran many of the typical budget parts myself but the fork is something I definitely recommend saving up for a good entry $200-300 name brand fork.
@alexbarker7511
@alexbarker7511 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more. I have the coil version and my rebound damper poked through my lowers resulting in a deadly crash. I then had to ride home with a fork that was going a bit extra than it’s travel. I tightened the bolt and it’s gone away. Definitely recommend some threadlocker for the bolt.
@thenowhereman3295
@thenowhereman3295 2 жыл бұрын
I chose to run a Rockshox Judy on my budget bike and would recommend that to anyone. But when I did it 2 years ago it was $170... I think they are now running for over $200.
@TraviNomotion
@TraviNomotion 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexbarker7511 I don’t think you know what deadly means
@0xsergy
@0xsergy 2 жыл бұрын
@@TraviNomotion might be deadly depending on the trail it fails on.
@TraviNomotion
@TraviNomotion 2 жыл бұрын
@@0xsergy it has to be actually deadly my understanding is if a crash was deadly he’d be dead so he wouldn’t be writing this comment
@benzi_
@benzi_ 2 жыл бұрын
The BOLANY brand of fork here in the Philippines is considered a joke of a fork (arch breaks easily, stanchions breaking in half, very hazardous, etc.) -- ppl here tend to lean towards the Suntour Epixon or Manitou Markhor .. or if futher in a budget, the XCR Suntour fork non air, coil version (those 3 i recommend for the walmart bike you bought recently heh) love watching your vids!
@fcktherich6913
@fcktherich6913 2 жыл бұрын
Epixon for the win! I love the fork it's pretty light has great rebound and was a screaming good deal
@freetousevlog9162
@freetousevlog9162 2 жыл бұрын
Bolantoy pork
@jasperdomingo639
@jasperdomingo639 2 жыл бұрын
true bolantoy
@ilsot1
@ilsot1 2 жыл бұрын
I saw someone from philippines mention the weapon tank 35 budget fork, are they any good?
@freetousevlog9162
@freetousevlog9162 2 жыл бұрын
@@ilsot1 weapon are fine but , makesure the knobs on the axle tighten enough during riding specially on trails ,, sometimes its easy to lose , if youre riding is so aggressive then none of the two is the best for you , those fork can survive but it won't go too long
@damonvanopdorp2905
@damonvanopdorp2905 2 жыл бұрын
I"m so glad that you will be giving Suntour products a decent run in future videos instead of beating on their least expensive offerings. That seems important for educating new riders.
@lucaspaytowinbroski7993
@lucaspaytowinbroski7993 2 жыл бұрын
I hear $130 fork. I’m buying now.
@RealMTBAddict
@RealMTBAddict 2 жыл бұрын
Damn get a better job
@lucaspaytowinbroski7993
@lucaspaytowinbroski7993 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealMTBAddict whoever said I had a job
@RealMTBAddict
@RealMTBAddict 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucaspaytowinbroski7993 lol you just told on yourself. So who is supporting you? Mom/dad or the government?
@dm8941
@dm8941 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealMTBAddict is that your problem?
@RealMTBAddict
@RealMTBAddict 2 жыл бұрын
@@dm8941 Lol come get a job where I work. Once you get past the pain you'll make decent money. But you need to have skills to get money. Is that your problem? No skills?
@zackaryschwindt1190
@zackaryschwindt1190 2 жыл бұрын
To really make the Kent trail ready you should put a PNW dropper on it
@therealandrewlund
@therealandrewlund 2 жыл бұрын
I just put a Brand-X Ascend II 27.2mm on mine, love it so far. With a seat post adapter sleeve and the external cable routing it was super easy to install.
@atomhincks7637
@atomhincks7637 2 жыл бұрын
@@therealandrewlund same
@jordancoleman2402
@jordancoleman2402 Жыл бұрын
No need, that bike is already a panties dropper
@danmorgan7775
@danmorgan7775 2 жыл бұрын
Love how Seth kept the dork disc on in keeping with the bike's roots.
@DarkFeedFPV
@DarkFeedFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Seth putting his life on the line to test a 130$ amazon fork for us 😂
@gieco9583
@gieco9583 2 жыл бұрын
He's not the hero we deserve...
@ScottTheBot07
@ScottTheBot07 2 жыл бұрын
@@gieco9583 but the hero we need
@JB-1138
@JB-1138 2 жыл бұрын
$130.00
@_anindith_
@_anindith_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScottTheBot07 lol
@Katastra_
@Katastra_ 2 жыл бұрын
When you settle on a 'this is good enough' upgraded build of this bike, you should total it all up and see what you can find on the new and used market around that price and see how they compare.
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 2 жыл бұрын
Then try to sell the Kent.... See how much you lose. Just buy quality 2nd hand, you can resell it for what you payed
@Durwood71
@Durwood71 2 жыл бұрын
You can already get a decent Trek for right around what he has already spent on upgrading this Walmart special.
@bryanb6931
@bryanb6931 2 жыл бұрын
@@Durwood71 I just bought a 2013 Trek 4900 in very good condition for $400, even the suntour SR XCR forks were in great condition, Avid Elixir 1 brakes that i had to replace the lever blade for $3 each a new FSA chain $20 and new tiers $75. My son loves the bike, overall very happy with the purchase.
@epaquette06
@epaquette06 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the trail building videos!! When are we gonna see more of that?
@MichaelRei99
@MichaelRei99 2 жыл бұрын
Rewatch some old videos. They are still entertaining a 2nd or 3rd time!!
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 2 жыл бұрын
They built a whole bike park and never filmed the build
@BermPeakExpress
@BermPeakExpress 2 жыл бұрын
We’re gearing up for something big!
@alterinq2383
@alterinq2383 2 жыл бұрын
@@BermPeakExpress I'm so excited
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 2 жыл бұрын
@Oye nothing stopping you filming it and uploading it. I'd bet you paying someone 4 weeks wages to film it would've paid for itself in watch time within 4 weeks. People will watch paint dry if its shot on a nice camera
@nzo_6543
@nzo_6543 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Philippines, the Bolany forks are cost around 2,000 Philippine pesos higher, ( almost like 34 US dollars higher ) but there is alot of rumours that it can break easily around the crown arch.
@johngaran5045
@johngaran5045 2 жыл бұрын
omsim
@RealMTBAddict
@RealMTBAddict 2 жыл бұрын
So buy something that doesn't break.
@nzo_6543
@nzo_6543 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealMTBAddict well it's just rumours,
@Blowfeld20k
@Blowfeld20k 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealMTBAddict No such product m8, anything will fail if given the right conditions ..................
@johngaran5045
@johngaran5045 2 жыл бұрын
If you're on a budget but needs a durable and good fork go for suntour it ain't gon let you down
@NocturnOwl1022
@NocturnOwl1022 2 жыл бұрын
I use to have one of those generic air forks, one thing is for sure, if it has the same compression switch same as yours then it is definitely a generic "rebranded" air fork which doesn't last long. You can check every generic fork in the market and you'll see that they all have the same compression switch and built. They just change the sticker brands 😅 But yeah they are good for kids bikes which doesn't get that much beating. Now I upgraded to Suntour XCR airfork which is quite known for durability and it works very well. Thanks for the good and honest review.
@BenAlaux
@BenAlaux 2 жыл бұрын
As this is a budget build, I think it would be interesting to make a cost rundown at the end, to get a reference vs other entry bikes from major MTB companies. (Edit : typos)
@junkname9983
@junkname9983 2 жыл бұрын
this isn't a budget build anymore. He'll have an $1000 bike before he's done with it.
@crabtrap
@crabtrap 11 ай бұрын
Jesus is my Fox Shock
@celonetvpn
@celonetvpn 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE your videos! Prob some of the best editing too!!
@tracymcmanus550
@tracymcmanus550 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, your cinematography on this video was awesome. You could definitely make some cool short films in the future!😉
@riccochet704
@riccochet704 2 жыл бұрын
The Bolany fork might not be a good choice for extremely technical, tough downhill like you put it through. BUT, for the price, it's probably good upgrade for someone doing light XC and mostly green trail riding. I'm sure it soaks up the bumps a lot better than a spring fork.
@besticouldget
@besticouldget 2 жыл бұрын
I have KRSEC fork on my Felt and its horrible. It bends in every direction and feels like its going to snap! Getting a new fork but thats only my commuting bike so i "should be safe" Chinese forks sucks big time!
@UltrafineDeluxe
@UltrafineDeluxe 2 жыл бұрын
Stop rationalizing Chinese crap.
@user-rw2pq8te7x
@user-rw2pq8te7x Жыл бұрын
the problem is most people dont stay just riding greens, so either its gonna fail, or you need to buy a new one anyway and youre down 130 for nothing
@user-rw2pq8te7x
@user-rw2pq8te7x Жыл бұрын
looks great for kids though
@zethjugos1250
@zethjugos1250 2 жыл бұрын
Just like you mentioned, the suntours will bend bcoz they have steel steerer tubes which is also why they are heavy, they will bend but it will allow you to get home...those balony forks tho have been known to snap at the stanchions...i am not sure tho if they have addressed that issue with these new versions. The prices are also a lot different, the balony retails for around $80-90 here in Asia...the xcr air around $120 but i guess shipping them to the US is more expnsive than frpm Taiwan to us neighbor countries
@OmnieStar
@OmnieStar 2 жыл бұрын
Ty for the video Seth n_n Love the Ken trouvaill videos lol
@TrailFeatures
@TrailFeatures 2 жыл бұрын
10:40 Seen this before on cheap air forks. If there isn't a wiper sponge to keep the seals lubed up the friction is going to eat the seals. Would not be shocked if other things are going on but that's at the top of my list. I'd head the advice from Philippine riders commenting on this video and pass on this fork. MTB is HUGE there and they do know what they are talking about when it comes to building a solid bike on a budget.
@betterthannotgoodmtb
@betterthannotgoodmtb 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you may have already encountered the YT channel Project Farm, but if you haven't, I believe you could pick up some more test ideas. Thanks for your efforts to help us budget minded riders make choices that are ultimately safe!
@MorryB
@MorryB 2 жыл бұрын
"We're going to test that!"
@hunterjackson802
@hunterjackson802 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna be getting mopar gasket maker from now on xd. Already got a dewalt trimmer because of his videos lol.
@RandysRides
@RandysRides 2 жыл бұрын
When you're done building this, you should tally all costs and compare it with a factory bike of equal price. Is it worth it ??
@TownAdventures
@TownAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Love the content and some great trails. Might run into you one day on them!
@yamhead79
@yamhead79 2 жыл бұрын
This is a scam don’t reply
@Iosis6
@Iosis6 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly pretty excited to see you build the Kent up. I have a similar bike I am building up for friends to ride and needs alot of the same type of upgrades.
@UnliBike
@UnliBike 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Seth I have the same fork as you do and for the long term review is the lock out is not the best but that all of my complaints now the lock out is not working but so far it's still good af after 2 years I only service it once
@tromboned3
@tromboned3 2 жыл бұрын
That SR Upgrade program is amazing. I used it with my Trek Marlin to upgrade from the XCT to the Raidon with Remote lockout for only 200 bucks
@yamhead79
@yamhead79 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t reply it’s a scam
@richr7604
@richr7604 2 жыл бұрын
Great info on the forks, now i'm thinking of buying a Kent and using it on some local trails that aren't too gnarly. Good budget ride .
@TheFalcorion
@TheFalcorion 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason you are inserting the forks into a metal tube before clamping down? If you could clamp to the steerer tube itself you would have way more consistent results and the weight wouldn't keep getting deflected when it hits the fork and makes it rotate.
@tobins6800
@tobins6800 2 жыл бұрын
Several things. 1. During riding, a hard hit will deflect the front end. 2. Clamping directly to the stanchion will influence the test amd also introducing a new failure point (the clamps are toothed and more than likely a harder material than the stanchions). I'd rather see a tighter tolerance for bar or some semblance of bearing. PVC pipe might do to fill the gap.
@TheFalcorion
@TheFalcorion 2 жыл бұрын
@@tobins6800 good point about the wheel turning on impacts during actual riding. I'm too lazy to rewatch the cane creek video to see what they did, I don't remember theirs rotating much if at all.
@tobins6800
@tobins6800 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFalcorion they had it locked down. Seth's set up more replicates real world more so than the cane creek, but the cane creek will yield more repeatable results.
@ZacxOff
@ZacxOff 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent B-Roll in this video 🙌🙌
@Larpy1933
@Larpy1933 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet work there. I really enjoy your videos. Thanks.
@multisilhoutte
@multisilhoutte 2 жыл бұрын
Had an XCR Air fork. You must upgrade it with oil and foam rings, otherwise, it sticks, cannot run low pressures, has no tokens. Basically, use oil in the air chamber as volume spacers and install foam rings.
@efields83
@efields83 2 жыл бұрын
Seth! I have had that fork on my bike for 2 years. I bought it mid 2020 to get me through the season. I wish I could send you my bike to review. It’s the mega budget bike
@ryanmiskin
@ryanmiskin 2 жыл бұрын
We need to see a running total of the upgrades.
@TheAverageDutchman
@TheAverageDutchman 2 жыл бұрын
I think there is still a problem with the smasher rig. If you look closely at the slow motion you'll see the fork deflects enough to actually hit the base, which will stop the steering tube or the stanchion to bridge? connections from bending. If the clamps holding the fork where higher off the floor board I think both forks might come off a lot worse. The Bolany fork being much more flexible would likely hit the base sooner and spring back with equal force applied compared to the suntour, but if it was allowed to move freely, it would likely deflect to failure on the first hit.
@Thebowber
@Thebowber 2 жыл бұрын
I fitted a set of these to my wifes touring bike, far better than the original spring fork and she's not jumping or riding rough trails so I'm not worried about them breaking.
@Bensay
@Bensay 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing videos, thank You for the detailed part reviews !
@jaystarr6571
@jaystarr6571 2 жыл бұрын
Cheap forks are getting better. Better forks are *NOT* getting cheaper.
@Axr24have
@Axr24have 2 жыл бұрын
That was a great vid! My son rides my old ‘Trek 3500’ bike (the fork has had it’s day). I may look for a new fork for it. 👍
@idekwhatimdoinghere
@idekwhatimdoinghere 2 жыл бұрын
ive had 2 of these bologna forks and they are a great cheap upgrade but the magnesium lowers arent very strong on one of the forks I snapped off where the quick release skewer goes but that was after some jump trails and rocky downhill they're a great cheap upgrade for a light to intermediate rider
@PatrickTheGreat
@PatrickTheGreat 2 жыл бұрын
I just put that Microshift derailleur on one of my bikes, and it has been fantastic! If you are just a weekend warrior who does primarily intermediate riding, save some money over the Shimano/SRAM alternatives and look at Microshift.
@corydalus981
@corydalus981 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting video for sure! I am bad at addition, but between the price of the Kent and the upgrades, it seems like you are in around a grand? I have within the last year bought two beginner-class HTs (a Rocky Mountain Fusion 29er and a 26.5' Polygon* Xtrada-6). Each was slightly under a grand, and came equipped with parts about equal in quality to what you added to the Kent. In fact, the Fusion came with the same Microshift Advent rear mech, which has shifted FLAWLESSLY for about a year. Both are lots of fun to ride on trails that while not scary by Seth standards, are certainly above beginner level. This might be a good alternative for people who would have to pay a mechanic to install some of these upgrades. *I am definitely a support-your-LBS person, but no local shop currently has bikes in this price range in anything but too small or too big.
@user-qb7vv6lf1y
@user-qb7vv6lf1y 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting you have been selected among my bicycle winners🎁
@luke-xr7wp
@luke-xr7wp 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work Seth
@mdawerkhan
@mdawerkhan 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to say , "it's time to stare at it!"😂
@rampapandiontinling
@rampapandiontinling 2 жыл бұрын
I have one of these. Not a super gnarly rider, and keep my wheels on the ground. It performs great. I do use an oil to lube/clean the seals one-in-a-while.
@3pidemiC123
@3pidemiC123 2 жыл бұрын
Technically, for the Suntour upgrade program you mentioned, you don't need to trade the fork in. You get a discount on a new fork just for having the serial number. They don't require you to send the fork back to them.
@jfkusa123
@jfkusa123 2 жыл бұрын
Part of the stiction might be air getting trapped in the fork. Slipping a zip tie under the dust seals can burp it if there is pressure building up in the lowers.
@sp00n
@sp00n 2 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't happen just after one ride though.
@kalebpeterson9375
@kalebpeterson9375 2 жыл бұрын
@@sp00n it’s a cheap amazon fork tho
@nickcummings81
@nickcummings81 2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos with the budget bike! Definitely interesting to see you ride it and upgrade it. Great work!
@okeydokey8438
@okeydokey8438 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Bolany fork on my everyday commute bike. Put some foam rings and better seals, the performance lasts and it feels a lot smoother 👌
@colbysmith3026
@colbysmith3026 2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking, those stock seals seem to have an appetite for dirt and debris
@Folskyfied
@Folskyfied 2 жыл бұрын
Does that feel like it gonna break? Im gonna get one soon because im using suntour xcm or should i go with suntour EPIXON
@specagent999
@specagent999 Жыл бұрын
What kind of seals did you replace it with?
@lifeathand1062
@lifeathand1062 2 жыл бұрын
How's your puppy I noticed he was eating grass usually dogs do that if they are not feeling well.
@stumpy25lbs
@stumpy25lbs 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid Seth! I hope Walmart are watching this and put all these components together on a new bike for less than we can buy them all individually for 🙏🏼🙏🏼
@cgstadler
@cgstadler 2 жыл бұрын
Seth- I’m loving this series. As you take the the bike to its final form, can you list the new total price at the end of each episode?
@kilianortmann9979
@kilianortmann9979 2 жыл бұрын
You can get an idea by the way the smeash weight jumps back up, as to wich one performed better. It is not a quantitative measurement, but the fork with less rebound had more plastic deformation going on.
@Durwood71
@Durwood71 2 жыл бұрын
The true test would be to find out which fork is the first to experience a critical failure, because a bent steerer tube is not nearly as catastrophic as a broken one.
@kilianortmann9979
@kilianortmann9979 2 жыл бұрын
@@Durwood71 I agree, it would be ideal to get the full stress-strain curve for each fork, probably outside of the scope of even this channel though.
@GVS224
@GVS224 2 жыл бұрын
I waited 3 weeks for an update on the Kent was worth it👍
@thatraymond
@thatraymond 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, stoked to see the Suntour installed too. One thing though, can you start selling hats? I'd totally rock a berm peak hat.
@nomad-ridesmtb270
@nomad-ridesmtb270 2 жыл бұрын
Dude!! Bennett Gap on a Walmart hard tail!! Seth, you're a beast!!
@slove120031
@slove120031 2 жыл бұрын
Given how the fork is mounted in the stand vs how it's supposed to be mounted in a bike, I would be curious where the bending is occurring. Seems it should be mounted similar to how it would be in a bike with a set of bearings. I wouldn't expect the steer tube of the fork to be designed to take a perpendicular load like that.
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 2 жыл бұрын
You can see it bananed the steerer in the middle. Yes it should be mounted on a bearing hard up on the crown race. The impact test is real world, hitting gutters/rocks or Seth's crazy roll in (the of version ) but casing the front tyre falling short of a jump is when they snap. If you watch the canecreek video he's copying or look up real snapped fork steerer's, the tube collapses right as the base of the steerer tube.
@pmbsuspension
@pmbsuspension 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you take the time to investigate these. Btw when you say the SR Suntour can be left in the backyard for 10 years... some of their new forks degrade very quickly under normal use, stuck wheel axles because of rust are common after a few weeks.
@augustlandmesser1520
@augustlandmesser1520 2 жыл бұрын
Another enjoyable and informative video, thanks crew! Nice relaxing music at 4:05 🙂 I have a bit weird question: can a cheap budged fork likewise XCM30 itself be reconfigured into something better anyhow (like air, oil or better coil system at least)?
@Notaloras
@Notaloras Жыл бұрын
I dont think so, if you want to convert it to air, its not designed to do so, its not compatible. But if you service your fork then it will be definitely better!
@jamespaxon1888
@jamespaxon1888 2 жыл бұрын
The kent is dope with the amazon fork and all the other upgrades. You've made the best out of the "worst" parts. Cheapest dropper next?
@rofljao
@rofljao 2 жыл бұрын
What this has me asking myself is: at what point are you better off just buying a frame and building from scratch with cheap parts?
@lukem7203
@lukem7203 2 жыл бұрын
How much would you spend on a good frame? That might be the factor if you can get a good one at a good price
@coedcaes1thiccboi521
@coedcaes1thiccboi521 2 жыл бұрын
To keep with the budget upgrades, I think you should buy some CST BFT 2.4’s on it. Should help a lot with grip 🤞
@MaIagoli
@MaIagoli 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving us your imputs about low cost bikes and parts for those who want to enjoy the trails but can't afford a better hardware... now this Kent Trouvaille will be almost at the same level and configuration my GT Avalanche 2020 has, with the XCR32 .. I like the bike the way it is right now, but I'm looking forward for your impressions! Best regards from Brazil, I love your channel Seth!
@60-ish.
@60-ish. 2 жыл бұрын
its relatively normal for new(er) wheels to go a bit out of wack a few weeks after purchase because of the spokes not being set fully. after trueing wheels you can usualy hear some minor metalic clicks from a select few spokes during a testdrive because the spokes have to set again.
@user-qb7vv6lf1y
@user-qb7vv6lf1y 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting you have been selected among my bicycle winners🎁
@joshuazeigler806
@joshuazeigler806 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Seth, on videos like this where you ride on a trail, would you consider putting the name of the trail and its general location in the video description? I live fairly close to you and would love to go on some of the trails I see in your videos. Thanks!
@walkerreagan40
@walkerreagan40 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Seth , can you do a pressure test on the forks ,how much down pressure on normal drops to see if there worth the money
@sirpanda33
@sirpanda33 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the kent trouvaille is just a test bike and it has better parts than my own bike
@lynxg4641
@lynxg4641 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting series, been following since the beginning and def interested to see how that "upgraded" Suntour fork performs compared to the Balogna. Since I know this is a popular series, I think after the fork upgrade, you should put on a nice set of reasonably priced, wider rimmed wheels, something in the i30-35 range and maybe try fitting some 2.6" tyres in that thing, especially in the back,
@cm6gaming259
@cm6gaming259 2 жыл бұрын
Once you’re done with this upgrade series, can you please make a chart to separate the upgrade paths? Like “entry level”, “mid level” and “high level” upgrades. Then break the price ranges down to $200, $400 and $600+ respectively. This way your audience can use it as a guide and also choose what they can, should or want to upgrade. Thanks in advance and I can’t wait to see the next part of this series.
@scottleone9892
@scottleone9892 2 жыл бұрын
Kevcentrals KZbin channel is at least in part dedicated to big box bike upgrades. Definitely worth checking out if you haven’t yet.
@owengarnett1008
@owengarnett1008 2 жыл бұрын
Bennet's Gap is a excellent choice for fork testing!
@purplegarage05
@purplegarage05 2 жыл бұрын
my canyon stoic came with one of the beefier xcr's and its handled everything I've thrown at it although it might be a bit heavy it definitely gives me more confidence than the cheap amazon fork i had on another bike
@jonnyboi2536
@jonnyboi2536 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I'd be swapping mine straight away but really can't fault it
@purplegarage05
@purplegarage05 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonnyboi2536 same here
@daddyshrek2295
@daddyshrek2295 2 жыл бұрын
i have an XCR too and it's a great fork, it's bulletproof
@NabineGabrielleMSiete
@NabineGabrielleMSiete 2 жыл бұрын
search for the weapon animal pro air fork.. I wanna see it in action and criticisms like the bolany fork... the "weapon animal pro air" fork just costs at 140 USD but the travel has 200mm in it... it also got that rebound adjuster but no lock out it also is a dual crown thing. and 34mm stanchions
@RFVCXR200R
@RFVCXR200R 2 жыл бұрын
0:54 Fanfare for the Common Man
@lucasmarquis8990
@lucasmarquis8990 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad to hear you're still liking the zoom breaks. I just picked up the one's you linked on amazon for my girlfriend's Liv tempt we bought her this past summer for about $600
@user-qb7vv6lf1y
@user-qb7vv6lf1y 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting you have been selected among my bicycle winners🎁
@userbosco
@userbosco 2 жыл бұрын
Dork disk alert @8:19!! LOL
@BackyardArcher
@BackyardArcher 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! I bought the 26" 120mm travel version of this fork a while back and was able to roll up small logs and even curbs with ease. Great for all but the gnarliest jank, but maybe not for jumping.
@robthesasquatch6482
@robthesasquatch6482 2 жыл бұрын
My first fork upgrade on my axum was the xcm 120 factory off of a trek. Pretty solid, imo, for a coil fork, under a heavy rider. I thought a bucklos 120 air, this fork with different stickers, would be am upgrade. It really wasn't. That xcr however... my polygon came factory with the 120mm xcr 32. And I love it
@trentvlak
@trentvlak 2 жыл бұрын
Really good editing, angles, and slo-mo on the trail ride parts.
@mikhailroi7184
@mikhailroi7184 2 жыл бұрын
No seth I don't agree with you recommending bolany forks, bc here we have tons of those forks snapped in half, it can cause some really serious injury
@komoonkh
@komoonkh 2 жыл бұрын
The XCR air is actually decent, but it is heavy. With a little more money you can get a Raidon (or even better Epixon), which is much lighter fork
@hunterjackson802
@hunterjackson802 2 жыл бұрын
Whats the difference between raidon and epixon
@juliangoulding
@juliangoulding 2 жыл бұрын
That suntour XCR fork is a great option. We have them on a few of our rental bikes and they are bomb proof. They will do thousands more km that the coil suntour without any servicing and still work like a dream.
@_anindith_
@_anindith_ 2 жыл бұрын
Bro my Suntour XCT 30 fork is inconsistent in terms of performance. Sometimes it feels too stiff while sometimes it feels perfect. I actually didn't service my fork for about a year but when I did, I found out that the stanchions were wearing out near the seals. Also, within few days of service my fork feels too stiff.......any solution?
@ericsharp5079
@ericsharp5079 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to se the opposite build! Build that Kent frame up with top of the line parts and see how it does!
@aussiek2000
@aussiek2000 2 жыл бұрын
The production quality on this video is amazing
@gregorybryte
@gregorybryte 2 жыл бұрын
Always is
@KyleSantisi
@KyleSantisi 2 жыл бұрын
Number 1 Channel ever!
@ericgadlage8975
@ericgadlage8975 2 жыл бұрын
It is ridiculous how easy you made Bennett look with that bike!
@purplegarage05
@purplegarage05 2 жыл бұрын
It’s also worth noting a lot of these cheap air forks have 26inch options available. Which is definitely an increasingly more difficult size to find
@RADkate
@RADkate 2 жыл бұрын
yeah your kinda screwed if you have an inter year bike though i was able to find a used 29inch fox float with straight steerer tube in the right size with a 9mm axel. thats like the most obscure spec
@MattDeLuco
@MattDeLuco 2 жыл бұрын
No post-ride tear down of the forks to see if there’s any obvious reasons for the performance degradation?
@Sarlasin
@Sarlasin 2 жыл бұрын
So: ... I've bought this exact fork 2 years ago on amazon. Back then I just started mountainbiking and put this on my trek marlin 5, which before had that exact suntour fork on it. since then i had a lot of rides with it and can therefor tell you exactly why it only costs 130 bucks. on my very first ride when i wanted to turn of the compression on the fly (before going uphill), the whole cap flew off and i had lost that small ball and the spring which prevented the cap from turning around while riding. a few rides later it suddenly stopped working at all, because it was a wet day and a whole lot of dirt and debree got stuck to the fork and rubber sealing. it would then go in but wouldnt spring back out. also if i let it sit around for a few months it would not hold the pressure very well. so all in all it is working pretty okayish, but i would not want to use it on a wet day anymore.
@derrickwillie4449
@derrickwillie4449 2 жыл бұрын
At 2:40 that French bill dog is eating grass. That’s not a good sign he is eating grass and is an indicator of digestion problems. You should take it to the veterinarian.
@mikpiotto
@mikpiotto 2 жыл бұрын
That advent derailleur is amazing. 60 bucks for shimano deore quality of shifting and clutch is mint. but I can't attest to the strength of the material as I haven't smashed it on anything yet
@TeeLichtet
@TeeLichtet 2 жыл бұрын
Is Shimano really so much more expensive in the US than in Europe? The Deore 5100 derailleur is like 35 Euros over here.
@dodgydingygames
@dodgydingygames 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to think about where they will have saved the cost on the bolany fork, it wouldn't surprise me if lots of the internal components had much rougher surface finishes compared to name brand forks because proper high quality finishing for sliding components can be pretty expensive. Would certainly explain the rapid wear on it from a single ride
@paullmight42
@paullmight42 2 жыл бұрын
that bologna will be perfect for me currently...im glad you did this, im gonna get one
@mdgeist472
@mdgeist472 2 жыл бұрын
Those Bolany, ZTZ, Lutu, and Bucklos forks seem to use the same parts. I had a Bucklos air fork for my 90lb son. It was smooth out of the box, but it got lots of stiction after 1 trail ride. I tried regreasing the stantions but that only helped for a really short time. The stiction is even too much for little kids and exasperates the small bumps. If going budget fork, go for the Suntour air fork. My old Epixon is still working flawless and smooth as ever...I did regrease the stantions and oil the foam rings and put 5ml of oil in the air chamber. It feels smoother than my Rockshox 35 Gold.
@andrewremm4187
@andrewremm4187 2 жыл бұрын
Can we also please get a link for the Suntour air fork?
@Hybrid600
@Hybrid600 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Bologna fork on a fatbike and it was horrid. The amount of inner to outer stanchion play was brutal only after a few rides. Hold the front brake and rock your bike fore/aft. How much play is there?
@scottgray5155
@scottgray5155 2 жыл бұрын
1:24 dog thought: "I got nothin to do with this wonton destruction of perfectly good equipment"
@JustinEakes
@JustinEakes 2 жыл бұрын
What fork did you put on at the end? I'm looking for an upgrade fork for my trek Marlin 5.
@themostlymikeshow
@themostlymikeshow 2 жыл бұрын
What a bunch of Baloney... 😂😂😂 Great review! Question... Is your GoPro clipped to your jersey, or is it some kind of hidden chest mount? That footage looks excellent. Very stable.
@glenneljoseconstantinoagui8428
@glenneljoseconstantinoagui8428 2 жыл бұрын
Yup Seth is about to be a Professional Cross Country Bike racer
@rickhop1417
@rickhop1417 2 жыл бұрын
Love this series so when your all done with up grades and total cost is in. Test a bike that has similar components and cost????????
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