2021 F150 VAS 3-5 Lowering Kit + Coilover Conversion + Viking Shocks!

[@zclee]

Tons of great insight. Thanks for the vid!

[@MurphysLawGarage]

No problem!

[@jayyjake8322]

Ahhh the beauty of having a new vehicle…everything comes off easy😏unless youre up north, then that rust will eat ya😭

[@MurphysLawGarage]

Lol

[@chriswoolard5734]

I installed the kit on my truck. It started squeaking from the front end. Have you fella’s experienced that?

[@MurphysLawGarage]

@chriswoolard5734 no squeaks or rattles

[@capricetx9119]

Wanted to lower mine but don’t want to get rid of borla dual exhaust . Thanks for explaining that issue what exhaust setup did you end up going with

[@MurphysLawGarage]

An exhaust shop could get it to work, but you’d likely need to heat wrap the pipes to stop heat transfer and it would likely touch if the truck went down to the bump stops. We just dumped it at the muffler.

[@gilbert0808]

What size tires for this drop? Looks perfect for a 3/5 drop.

[@MurphysLawGarage]

These are the stock rims/tires, but we did put a customer forgestar setup: instagram.com/reel/C4WR4PhOYdL/?igsh=OWZmYWRwcjZydnhm

[@tylerstewart38]

Do you absolutely have to drop the 3inches in front and 5inches in the back. Anyway to install this kit with just dropping the rear to level with the stock front height?

[@MurphysLawGarage]

We are using a coilover up front so we can put it wherever we want. An axle flip kit is overkill just to level the truck.

[@tylerstewart38]

@ thanks for replying! I am looking at doing coilovers in the front but keep it stock height and drop the rear to level the truck. Only modifying the height of the rear. If that makes sense.

[@Lxmustang805]

How’s the ride with the coilovers ? I have 2/4 drop , with 2” Drop spindles & flip kit .. I’m planning on running coilovers as well ..

[@MurphysLawGarage]

We’ve got a ton of miles on them - the ride is better than stock.

[@filmpro4920]

What add add a leaf did you guys go with? How much did it net in lift?

[@MurphysLawGarage]

The ReadLift 1.5” add a leaf. We gained right around an inch. If you’d like to see pics of the new stance look us up on insta @murphyslawgarage - I recently posted some of it on Forgestar X12 wheels.

[@filmpro4920]

Thank you for the reply, Truck looks great! @@MurphysLawGarage

[@MurphysLawGarage]

No problem, thanks! The add a leaf actually makes the truck ride better than stock on the drop kit and it even tows more confident - highly recommend.

[@19jody72]

So you dont need anything under the front lower control arm to support the coil spring once you take the upper balljoint loose?

[@MurphysLawGarage]

No it wasn’t under a bunch of tension.

[@19jody72]

@@MurphysLawGarage I've taken normal coil springs out and there was major tension.. I guess rhw struts are different?

[@donnienall626]

@@19jody72 on a coil over the shock itself contains the spring. so the lower control arm is not under any tension when taken apart like that.

[@19jody72]

@@donnienall626 I had no idea! But do now! Thanks for that tip!

[@dahobbs2008]

I have this exact kit for my 22 crew cab 4x4. Did it align good? I’m getting ready to install it in the next week or so after I find some wheels. Thanks.

[@MurphysLawGarage]

Aligned with no issues

[@FastLainePerformance]

Just got all mine in the mail and they didn’t ship my fox shocks 🤦. It’s been a month

[@MurphysLawGarage]

Did you reach out? It’s best to call them directly

[@FastLainePerformance]

@ emailed them last night, they said sorry and they’re going to email the vendor.

[@traviscook8748]

What's the part number for this kit?

[@MurphysLawGarage]

Message Terry Reeves at Beefcake Racing on FB and ask him for the kit JB put on the F150 on Murphys Law Garage. He’ll know whats up and get you a deal. We also have an add a leaf you will likely want, he’s got the list - our kit was customized with the viking shocks.

[@Chuys_Rd1]

Do you know what the stock torque spec is for the u bolts? I cant find It on the VAS instructions

[@MurphysLawGarage]

It is absolutely in the instructions and its significantly less than stock - 75ft lbs I believe,

[@Chuys_Rd1]

@@MurphysLawGarage I didn’t see. I called and they confirmed 75ft lbs

[@Chuys_Rd1]

@@MurphysLawGarage I won’t be doing any towing with this truck so I’m not too worried about it

[@MurphysLawGarage]

We tow, its fine

[@Chuys_Rd1]

@@MurphysLawGaragewow! I really appreciate the video by the way. Helped me a lot! I’m doing this install by myself in my garage in the 110 degree heat and it’s no joke lol

[@robbuchanan4870]

You should also use a 1" lift shackle instead of a add a leaf.

[@MurphysLawGarage]

Actually, it depends on how the leaf spring pack is setup on your configuration. This truck had only one leaf spring from the factory and the lower made it bouncy. VAS and Beefcake Racing both advised to use an add a leaf, we’ve since installed it and it rides like oem now.

[@robbuchanan4870]

@@MurphysLawGarage if you tow, like you say you do you'll want a helper bag kit from either IHC or Ridetech. A 1" lift shackle to raise the rear and a helper bag kit is a better choice than adding a leaf. But it's your truck so you do you. Good luck.

[@MurphysLawGarage]

@robbuchanan4870 “in your opinion”, the truck is trying to bridge the gap between 60’ at the track and towing, its how we want it.

[@cristian101]

So shackle is better than add leaf ? I have the vas and it dropped my rear 7 inches to low for my single cab. Vas told me to install add a leaf it would give me 2 inches more .

[@MurphysLawGarage]

@cristian101 it rides substantially better with the add a leaf and tows better than stock. Do what VAS told you - as we did.

[@lylewasde8267]

No need for shims?

[@MurphysLawGarage]

We put back what Oem had in positions that made sense.

[@shammahjenkins8870]

Did you do shock relocation on your truck?

[@MurphysLawGarage]

Nope

[@shammahjenkins8870]

@@MurphysLawGarage why not if you don’t mind me asking? Is it no benefit?

[@MurphysLawGarage]

@shammahjenkins8870 we don’t make enough power, if the day ever comes that wheelies are an issue we may cross that bridge. The truck doesn’t hop or roll since installing the trac bars.

[@shammahjenkins8870]

@@MurphysLawGarage okay understood. I am about to purchase the same kit for my single cab and thought about buying it. I guess it can wait. Not boosting until winter or spring.

[@MurphysLawGarage]

Yep, definitely do the trac bars though - wildly better hook.

[@robbuchanan4870]

You over torqued those U bolts. Sounds like you used factory specs. VAS specs are 75 ft lbs. Safe to say your bottom U bolt plates are now warped/bent.

[@MurphysLawGarage]

Yes, we used factory specs. This is a factory towing package truck that still needs to tow and 75ft lbs is just too loose. We’ve made 3 adjustments to this setup and re torqued 4x - the plates are perfectly straight, no issues. The truck is driven daily and tows weekly.

[@robbuchanan4870]

@@MurphysLawGarage your towing package is long gone now thay it's lowered. 75 ft lbs is the correct specs for VAS. IHC uses 85 ft lbs on the passenger side and 65 ft lbs on the driver side. I'd be willing to bet a ton of cash your bottom plates are bent, because they are. And you should only use U bolts once, not 4 times. Good luck.

[@MurphysLawGarage]

@robbuchanan4870 LOL, ok buddy - all words when your speaking to someone who’s telling you the opposite, nothing is bent and I would bet 200ft lbs wouldn’t bend that plate. Ubolts are most definitely reuasable and it’s done all the time. The truck tows better now with the new setup, regardless of the reduced capacity. Im not going to argue with you, the advice/opinion is unsolicited.