2021 HAIBIKE ALLMTN IS OUTSTANDING!!

Review of the all new 2021 Haibike AllMtn 7 ebike. 160mm travel, Fox Factory, Yamaha PWX2 based electric mountain bike
For 2021 Haibike have totally rebuilt the AllMtn. New frame, geometry and design. It's incredible value for money at £5599 and you get a LOT of bike for your money!
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[@RobRidesEMTB]

I honestly had to keep checking I'd got the price right on the bike. Its A LOT of bike for the money! Well done Haibike for creating a great ebike at an outstanding price point. What do you guys think?

[@odd_job_007]

Looks very impressive and no questioning the quality but what you said about the motor would put me off.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Its no biggie, its just a minor annoyance...

[@michaelmazani]

Is this up there with your favourites? Please do a top 10 or 5 at some point please after more makes and models are released. :)

[@chickenclips]

@@odd_job_007 It honestly isn't that bad. I've gotten used to mine. Once you know it's there you know how to avoid it or use it.

[@MTBs]

Looks sturdy enough, but I am not so sure about the motor. Amazing value for money though, didn't think it was a carbon bike at first!

[@DavidMartin-vr1jk]

DISLIKES: bugs me to see “dislikes” on content produced by this guy. From his shots, narration, experience, content, flow etc, it’s all produced extremely well, for free to you. It’s not directly sponsored. The amount of work it takes to produce a video like this, takes more than just time. The dislikes are just ignorant of that reality. Rob I recently got into E MTB after loosing my best friend 25 years ago when he hit my rear tire when we were doing a downhill in the Irish mountains. Your channel and others like Kyles are a delight to watch in a sport / hobby that is exploding.

[@pizzagorgonzola]

yes Rob makes the best videos about e-bikes, by a big margin, and is also a nice guy (from what i experienced). the dislikes must be about the bike, or just about any e-bike, or even bikes in general, some frustrated car owners or pedestrians ?

[@derekblake9385]

Totally agree, Rob does a great job and excellent camera work.

[@franciscosegura1960]

I totally agree with you

[@robertbransby]

Agreed, I never quite understand the reasoning behind people disliking videos, very disrespectful.

[@gap9992]

take no notice of the dislikes. They probably didn't even watch the video!

[@maeso34]

Great video. Thanks. Please also notice that what you see as something you don’t like much could be seen as a great feature by others. For example that ultra instant assistance of the motor as soon as you push the pedal it’s something I have always loved from the Yamaha unit. It makes those steep difficult restarts much easier. Then also, as you mentioned, the Yamaha motor has the racing motorbike heritage on its programming, so that’s what it’s so reactive and maybe less smooth that others but, who buys R6 doesn’t want a boring cruiser! I’ve got brose, Yamaha and bosh at home and, as much as I like the smooth and quietness of the Brose, I definitely enjoy the crispness of the more racy Yamaha. Thanks again.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Thanks Antonio. I also like the immediate delivery of power you get from the motor. But many other brands also do this just as well but without that twitchiness that you get. It just needs to be refined a bit, in my opinion. For example, the Bosch Gen 4 is absolutely immediate in the power delivery and helps getting started on super steep climbs 👍👍

[@eddiebaby22]

Agreed 👍

[@oliverdoyle2885]

I have just got this bike today, first time on an ebike. I was literally speachless i cant believe how good this is. Anyone out there in the ebike dis camp all ill say is just try one. Thanks so much for all your content rob it helped me choose and i am 150% happy what a machine. It is so fast on the dh.

[@steviedsolve]

About time. The Yamaha Haibikes looked like they were being phased out since 2018 and I'm so glad to see them being developed again. My 2018 AllMTN 8.0 has been nothing but incredible and super reliable. Whilst everyone was whinging about their Steps, Brose and Bosch's the past couple of years, I couldn't understand why Yamaha wasn't even getting a mention. As for the "eager puppy" "it just wants to go" effect. I love it! but if you don't, just press the down button a few times to no power mode whilst you're resting. That eager puppy makes steep hill starts a breeze in Eco or standard mode. Great review as always Rob and shout out to Haibike for experimenting but not being afraid to go back. They nailed it with this spec.

[@dataanalyst5704]

I don’t like to ‘slag’ off other channels but your review was way more extensive than the other reviews out there. Love your channel.

[@JonasGrumby]

I watch these reviews then I walk around the house with Rob's accent and applying bike terms to everything. My wife thinks I'm crazy. This is all I can do since every single bike he reviews is sold out or not available for months.

[@robvanduren761]

Yamaha engine is the best most reliable motor that's available. Gets overlooked by fashion victims on Specialized etc waiting for new motors. Our 2 Yamaha motors are running smooth and strong after nearly 2 years.

[@tonbor9013]

Indeed, I run the Yamaha PWX on my sidecar full suspension mountain bike where both driver and passenger pedal without any issues for more than one and a half year now. Changing gear in time, it is well capable of driving the total weight of 220 kg uphill. The extra push when starting is something I particularly like about the Yamaha engine for our heavy-weight sidecar. However, it is consuming fuel! On relatively flat, yet rather technical tracks in the Netherlands (Rijssen, Lochem, Hellendoorn) we empty a 500 Wh battery within 16 km...

[@davelee88]

Shame it’s a Bosch gen 4, best motor to date. Deal breaker for me!

[@adrianhrusca4067]

How many kilometers during the 2 years?

[@SubmarinersDive]

I love my 2020 Haibike Nduro...build quality is excellent! With Haibike, I think you get Top Level Performance, Components, and value, without the "Specialized" price. Good vid Rob!

[@jostkosak7546]

And without Specialised super customer service with 4 year warranty. Dont get me wrong I am a Haibike rider. But Spesh customer service is levels above Haibike. And thats what you pay extra for.

[@joeymalkz6061]

Your wrong Nick, its on 2019 and 2020 motor models. If your 2.1 motor is replaced you still get 4 years from original purchase date for warranty. So yes...4 years warranty regardless.

[@sticksman7819]

What a fantastic bike with a nice colour.i own a Haibike, although it's the entry hardseven 1.0 it does more than i ever need and I'm so happy with it.

[@trevorshields7347]

Got mine yesterday. What can I say. Its a beast,absolutely love it. Had it down the local woods and it just eats the rough stuff. Its a very stable and capable bike. I'm just an average rider but this bike makes me look good. I find it very predictable and sure footed. Going on a 45 mile run tomorrow for a range test. Like to see what it does in the real world not what the manufacturers claim

[@cd9278]

Let’s us know the range man, thinking about getting this one (in mean black)

[@trevorshields7347]

@@cd9278 had a ride up the coast 2 coast cycle track. From mine its a constant climb. Had it in mainly eco Pro as I still like to do a bit of a work out. On the steeper sections turned the power up. 39 miles later got back home with only 3 bars used out of 10 was very impressed.

[@franciscosegura1960]

I must say Rob does an excellent job. I do not understand those thumbs down. Perhaps they simply don't watch the video or they may not like e-bikes. Production, sound, image...all of them are awesome. After this kind of work, it is very difficult for me to watch vids by other people, which are rather bad and very low quality. Let me tell you once again I do admire your work, Rob. It is not fair those people who won't see the time and energy you spend on it. But I do. And we are many more. Un millón de gracias from this Spanish guy

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Thanks Fran, really appreciate the comments :-) Kind regards, Rob.

[@nelsongracias1847]

That's the same motor found on the latest Giant emtb's. I think Giant did a great job with the controller, it's easy to use, discret and cheap to replace in case of crash. (The down side is the Giant control app... it's not working at the moment) I do agree, that motor is a beast and quite powerful at lower cadences.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

I just wish that the motor brands would offer a tiny / no display, discrete option. These Casio style displays really bug me!!

[@fifthpint4571]

@@RobRidesEMTB Giant bikes have a very small and discreet control set. It's very similar to what you'd find on a Turbo Levo, but also has tiny LEDs to show you support and battery levels. I also agree with Nelson - I love the motor in my Giant, it's great.

[@johnbrasu2799]

@@fifthpint4571 Yup, but there is a lot of bug with this indicator (battery level for example. I have the giant reign e pro 2)

[@trevorshields7347]

@@RobRidesEMTB Thats fine for yous young boys. But when you get to my age larger numbers are easier to read

[@barriekinnaird5856]

Ive got a trance e+2 which has the pxw motor. All this twitchy motor stuff is a load of nonsense. After a couple of rides you don't even notice it. It annoys the hell out of me how all reviewers put it down as a negative. Its a great motor and with just under 5000miles on mine in less than a year a hell of alot more reliable than others i could name! Nice review by the way - cracking looking bike 😃

[@TheBikePilot]

I think Rob is just highlighting it rather than not mentioning it. It's just different from other motors. As Rob and you have said it's not a biggy, just something to be aware of..!

[@santclause1]

Got this motor in my Giant Reign and it's well good. Sheeple are really sleeping on this motor and i don't now why. Yamaha are massive motox/superbikes hell they even built the engine in the Lexus LFA. rode 47miles in Active mode and still had 3 bars left in 4 hours 12 mins. all with 500wh. people going out in turbo mode and getting 15-20 miles then complaining it's not enough really need to earn there smiles per miles. but then again most of the country are work shy.

[@fuellerr]

I have to say I never really liked the looks of the the Haibike but this new model Looks Really good I'm impressed

[@RobRidesEMTB]

I really really like it too!

[@roklibensek8742]

I love Yamaha motors.That smooth and not to powerfull delivery at start and wide range of power modes helps save battery. I did with my Giant old yamaha SyncDrive, 500W battery 120km with more than 20% battery left while Bosch gen4 500w battery died at 105km.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Yeah totally agree, those first couple of crank rotations are killer on batteries. I was super impressed with the range.

[@nelsongracias1847]

We are reaching a point where e-mtb motors are powerful enough and manufacturers should focus on efficiency, so that riders don't have to pay extra for larger batteries and carry all that additional weight while ride their bikes!

[@karimayoubi74]

Haven't tried the Yamaha motor, but I like the natural way that a Shimano motor fades in the power when you start pedalling, it feels very natural, almost undetectable, as compared to the Bosch which jumps in hard when you start pedalling making it harder to control on a hill start, IMO. Sounds like the Yamaha is a bit like the Shimano in that respect. What's your opinion? Wider power/cadence range definitely appeals, the Shimano is quite temperamental on that score.

[@danielekirylo]

Thanks for the review, but.. My compliments really go for the outstanding video production!!! Amazing shots, top image quality, superb editing!.. your channel has some super high-quality work!

[@SamsBikes]

making me look bad once again haha... Amazing review Rob thanks for the hard work it definitely paid off

[@adrianlachner1941]

Hey Sam we see you too.. It is like a network now.. Keep it up..

[@davidh5940]

I think you're being a bit critical of the Yamaha motor - I find the instant power is a feature, working seamlessly with your leg muscles when you push the crank down to take off up hill. Instant power is awesome!! I've done over 8000km on my Giant Fathom E+2 Pro that uses PW-X (previous Yamaha motor version) and it has so far shown flawless reliability. Motor reliability and lifespan is top of my list when I shop for my next ebike.

[@TheBikePilot]

He said it was a peach at 2:39 !! It's just being highlighted for the user experience as other motors don't do it. It's not bothersome at all, just something to be aware of if you've come over from another motor system. I hear nothing but great things about the reliability from the Yamaha System, but they are a very decent engine and electrics company so this seems right up their alley. I wish it was on more eBikes...

[@adrianlachner1941]

Excellent Bike.. Currently ride an AllMtn 10.0 with the PW-X it is a great combination. very very RELIABLE... I think HAIBIKE has a winner!! ' Thanks ROB-- Great Job.

[@andreaswhiskyvitrine570]

I have the Allmtn 2 from Haibike, year 2023. An ingenious bike. ☺️🤘🏻

[@jimj8300]

Thanks just bought this bike based on your review, keep going with the channel.

[@tshepp999]

Me too!

[@Combat556]

Thank you Rob. Don’t get too close to an edge, and have that torque sensor toss you over. My Levo is more user friendly in that regard, no “suicide” mode.

[@franciscosegura1960]

What a good job you did with this video. The scenery helps, too. Thank you very much for sharing this masterpiece with all of us. From Almeria, Spain

[@captainslow4184]

I have the 2017 model and loving them!! The motor is Yamaha PW-X and the initial engagement is the same. Doesn't bother me at all.

[@TheBikePilot]

I don't think it's bothersome, just something people might not have experienced before. It's not a dealbreaker that's for sure...

[@CarkeekW]

Agreed, just don't pedal if you don't want power , pretty simple.

[@illla]

@@TheBikePilot it is actually necessary feature on mountain ebikes, it is not flaw. You need that instant torque when you start moving uphill. And that initial kick the Yamaha motors do is not crazy powerful, it is just light tapping helping you to start moving. Bosch motors do not have that instant torque kick and people complain about it because of it makes very difficult to start moving on steep hill up without instant kick.

[@TheBikePilot]

@@illla The New Gen 4 motor upgrade doesn't and it has instant torque. As I say it's an awesome motor, it's just something to be aware of. Had a few hours on it now and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's just something to be aware of!

[@bigthang-on8458]

Having had all the Motors Bosch Brose Yamaha..i am in 13th year of emtbs so know the difference from the 30kg bikes years ago to the racing snakes we have now..I ride a Specialized Levo now But Yamaha is by far the best all rounder I have ridden its refined and very very reliable unlike some others..Great review Rob and agree that is bang for buck a good bike..

[@benellis1297]

Great vid Rob Nice to see the latest ebikes and honest pros and cons. Have you got the Wyte RS180 on your to do list? Hearing what you have to say about the British brand will be of great interest. Keep up the good work 😁

[@franciscosegura1960]

Yes, videos like this one are worth watching more than once, no doubt

[@alexblaska9802]

I just can’t comprehend the price, you can get a full on motocross bike for the same price and the components are double the size. These things are awesome but pricey, must have huge mark ups

[@weizenobstmusli8232]

So Haibike is building a really cool bike now? Love the looks. Is there a better specified bike for that money? Maybe Radon.

[@alpine1609]

Hope that price you quoted is the correct price for this model, comparing it to the current lineup and pricing, they really have revised their pricing and massively upped the spec for the price.

[@tcw95NZ]

Right? If you look at the 2020 XDURO AllMtn 8.0, which doesn't have factory fork/shock, and is a carbon/alloy frame, it's currently set at £6299 RRP. So if they managed £5599 I'd be pretty impressed. I get the feeling Haibike quoted him a cheaper model and gave him the more expensive one lol would be stoked to be proved wrong though!

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Definitely £5599!

[@tcw95NZ]

@@RobRidesEMTB that's sick! Hopefully they get some over here in NZ

[@FlyRidesUSA]

Solid Review! Thanks Rob! I can't wait to try this guy out when it comes to the states. Quality wise, it reminds me of a throwback to the 2016 Haibike XDURO Allmtn Pro, which is one of my favorite bikes of all time. Glad to see Haibike reestablishing themselves as top eMTB builders.

[@madmountainman5197]

Oh, wow... a new Haibike. Rob, the one thing you didn't mention, or question, was the rider weight limit and why Haibike have bothered to offer an XL size. Any normal person that will fit the XL will, with riding kit, exceed 96kg. This issue has been a common factor for at least the last couple of years now and Haibike, like Focus, have failed to address it. Roll on the new Kona 29er in September with 136kg rider weight limit. Let's hope you get to test one Rob, now that's a review i'd love to see.

[@marcothiel2949]

Thank you for your very good work in my opinion. It really helped me a lot with my decision ... I really hope that the motor and the rest of the equipment will have a long service life 😎✌️ many thanks from Germany ... Marco

[@outbackwack368]

Excellent review! My LBS just started carrying Haibike so I think I'll pay them a visit tomorrow! Your videos and impressions are guiding me through my first eMTB purchase. I'll be selling my Yeti SB5.5 Turq to subsidize this, but keeping the Intense Primer. Both full carbon and full Fox Factory. Thanks!

[@tannerjack9520]

LOVE THE BIKE weight is so overrated on e-bikes its ridiculous

[@markbabb3722]

Great Video. Loved my Haibike, but just remember spares are expensive and availability can be challenging. I have suffered too many days off bike waiting for parts, so consider before you commit

[@highzenburger1829]

A lot of reviewers forget about if the bike can run without battery. It's very important if you wanna travel.

[@klaussowka]

Hi Rob, great video like always! I am looking forward for your 2022! video with an Haibike carbon frame and the Bosch gen4 motor. By than Bosch might have replaced this Purion Display. Keep fingers crossed. Keep on going, I will continue watching your videos.

[@tsalesto]

I like the Yamaha system a lot and have experience of several Haibikes. Currently I own (and love) a 2019 Canyon Spectral:ON with Shimano E8000 system. I have to disagree with you about the amount of torque. I like the feature that you only get max torque on extra power mode. This suite my style of riding well, I can pop the power mode up while climbing, should I find the need more power. However, I'd much prefer having an app, where the rider could set the assist levels himself. I do agree that especially on EXPW starting up can be a bit sketchy, but one gets used to it - and I learned to drop the assist level down for that reason. I also agree that the display and switch unit is a bit cumbersome and not the most ergonomic. In fact, I much preferred the older style units, that they had a few years back in the PW-X first versions. Anyway, the bike looks great and the specs are spot on.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

HI Timo, totally agree, the App is much needed here and would allow the rider to tailer the power to their preference.

[@markusb.6759]

Looks fantastic for me especially to the prevoius Haibikes. For me they understand there business now because most of the guys doesnt like the blink blink looking from the older Haibike. Rob and again a german bike and a german solution for the Batterie Cover, the böllhoff snaploc. I think is it going further like this and you getting more and more in love with these products you have to move 😂😂 the car also a german brand. It would be great because than I would invite you for a trip to the wonderful Teutoburger forest in lower saxony 😊😉 Best man in the emtb sector going further like this! 👍

[@mattdedasc]

I might get one, having a 2017 Allmtn with Yamaha motor. I love that motor. Adding, the immediate push and torque feel at the pedals is one of Yamaha's best traits, it lets you set off on very steep inclines.

[@gooldii1]

Yes, theyamaha motor is great and reliable. I have 17.000 km on mine, no worries!

[@gooldii1]

And the inmediate punch is great.

[@joanmartret938]

I've had 5 Yamaha motor, last season I rode with the X2 and I must say it's impressive, much more better that PWX. Automatic mode is a must for singletracks. Well done Haibike and Yamaha!

[@gooldii1]

@@joanmartret938 really, so much better?

[@joanmartret938]

@@gooldii1 Yes, very much better. Smooth, noticeable noise reduction, no rpm limit, engine cadence is nearly unlimited. It's a very racing engine. I've ridden also with Bosch Gen 4 and it much more smooth the Yam one. Uphill singletracks are impressive. You should test one X2. I can't imagine what Yamaha will do with next X3 or whatever name they give.

[@daraghgarde]

Haibikes are taks, talk about a confidence building bike. They really do seem to give some of tge best spec bikes around for the money you pay. Keep it up Haibike n good man Rob.

[@nickirlam4811]

It’s got a, “I mean bussiness look to it!” Good work rob

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Certainly does! Cheers nick!

[@MegaRoonin]

@@RobRidesEMTB A question, i'm 97 kg , i'm 6'6", i've seen max weighy allowed 120 on the site of Haibike. In your opinion, i can evaluate this bike or is better changing bike? (I've now a Haibike with the same 120 kg allowed but is in aluminium)

[@jostkosak7546]

Rob I love watching how your channel grow. You are doing a great job with your reviews. I see it a lot in FB groups when people are asking: "Whats does Rob think aboit it?", "Did Rob test it yet?". Keep on the good work mate.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Thanks SO much Jošt really appreciate it!

[@ericm8811]

Hey Rob Rides Emtb! Haibike has a long history in ebikes and it shows! Are there any battery cooling vents in the head tube like the flyon bikes? The size of the display doesn't bother me as much as the position on top of the handlebar! Shimano have the display design closer to perfection with the below bar mount! More of these motors go into commuters bikes so I guess Bosch and Yamaha are designing for those bikes! Ride ride ride!

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Hi Eric. Yes, cooling tubes like the Flyon. Also, Syntace wheels and Hubs!

[@karimayoubi74]

Yeah, but even on a road bike, you want to turn it upside down for maintenance sometimes, and that controller will get damaged straight away.

[@kelvynbettridge]

Rob great reporting. I think as more players (motors and battery control systems) roll into the space we need to address inside reviews how the bike badges will address the service and warranty around these products. Keep up the good work.

[@WillN2Go1]

Range, warranty, reliability? I'm in as soon as I find an EMTB that after two years isn't broken and in the garage until it's stripped for parts and put in a dumpster. If it's post warranty $1200 every two years for a new motor.... yeah okay. It's just all the reports of 30 days, 6 months 2-3 motors in a year. Not specifically Haibike but seems to be across all EMTBs. (Set me straight if there's a near bullet proof EMTB. I don't mean you can smash it hard. Anything used extreme will break (or is a barbell or stone.) Nice review. Thanks for being straight up in the description "HAIBIKE paid for me to produce this video."

[@TheBikePilot]

We didn't do a full range test, but the 600wh battery seems to be up there with the 625/700wh batteries. Possibly more. Yamaha claim the motor uses the battery more efficiently and from the initial tests, they seem to be correct. The Yamaha Motor feedback from the previous iteration has been they are very reliable. I don't know about the warranty I'm afraid. Industry standard is 2 years on motor and battery. The frame and build seems to be very burly, and has been designed to handle the winter. It certainly seems to be excellently engineered. There's no perfect bike that won't ever break but this seems pretty bullet proof from the brief time we've both spent on it..

[@WillN2Go1]

@@TheBikePilot Thanks for the in depth answer. I was about to buy a Specialized and then found all these accounts of broken motors. I've got pretty strong legs and know that I can sometime really torque my cranks, drive train - I've broken more than a few chains. On the other side of that I'm in my 60s and I have no intention of boulder hopping or hammering down any ski runs. This Haibike does look pretty great. At some point I'm just going to have to do it.

[@TheBikePilot]

@@WillN2Go1 You absolutely won't regret it :)

[@illla]

Yamaha makes the most reliable ebike motors. If Yamaha emotor can be broken any another brand motor will be broken earlier.

[@mattjonesmattj6479]

I think emtb is in its infancy, still a lot to sort out. The trouble is people who have had bad experiences are more likely to post than those who have had no issues, find a forum for any ebike make and you will find loads of issues. The only two critical things are motor and frame , everything else is just components. It's a ridiculous amount of money to pay, but that's the price of entry. All my Moto X buddies have ebikes and their KTM s gather dust, because you can go more places (for now). The only reason I went for an ebike is a year of lockdown, saved so much money not commuting, and realistically no prospect of holiday abroad this year with covid. Ebikes have many flaws but they are fun, I think in another 10yrs they will be dialled, like the enduro bikes are now.

[@DawnThief23]

Testing the Cannondale Moterra anytime soon ? Had my heart set on the moterra 2 2021. But now I've seen this and its actually available...may change my mind.

[@MaxGiehl]

same here

[@alessandrobiferali8555]

Thank you for your review mate I ve order one... and should arrive after tomorrow .. I really cannot wait to drive this beautiful beast every where!!

[@FlIckme23]

Really like this bike, I have a haibike sduro trekking which is very good.. Stock is the issue with all bikes at the moment so I hope to find once available again. What I find difficult to understand with the EMTB new ranges is that a bike for 4500/5000 has aluminium frame and fairly budget suspension/spec -but if you spend that little more the spec seems so much more premium for not alot of money..

[@williambergin3943]

Love my Fyon Nduro Xduro 5.0 180. Prefer this paint scheme tho. But think the Flyon motor looks much better. And performs amazingly. Best thing I've ever ridden. Except from the mrs ofcourse...👍😂

[@michaeldearden1301]

I have the same bike great love it.

[@williambergin3943]

@@michaeldearden1301 yeah buddy. The extra weight also makes it quite stable. 👍👍

[@michaeldearden1301]

It does. It makes you feel super confident on the trails. My wife has one too and the weight is not an issue at all.for her.

[@59trevski]

Hi Rob, great vid, the bike looks fantastic especially in that colour. Price is spot on what a bike for the money. Might as well adjust that fork to a 170. The only negatives, these bike companies put all that effort into the bike geometry and spec. Then the motor company’s seem to let them down with little negatives like the most important part of the bike motors. IE Bosh amazing motor but that clunking sound. Yamaha with that extra power only on the full power mode The horrible control display. Put it in the top tube out of the way. It’s like you have to weight for another year to get each problem sorted for the next year. To save time Rob you need to get a job testing any new motor coming out before the production. If you can work out all these niggles in one ride what does it say. No one can be doing this. The communication between bike brand, motor brand. Who says yes that motor is perfect we will put in our bikes. i know it’s a new market ebikes, but I think keep them simple. I think now Specilized have the perfect motor and battery out there for 2021 now the motors have been fixed. 700whr, that’s all you need. Can’t wait to see what Shimano do with there motor.

[@neillennon3983]

Top vid as normal..good work..I've put deposit on the focus and have a bit of a wait..this review and available....I may be calling my dealer...

[@DavidSmith-wy5js]

Thanks Rob, another unbiased review keep em coming.

[@chickenclips]

that's one sick looking whip... Yamaha motors rock! Glad you finally rode one :) The Giants have the same issue at standstill with the motor wanting to give on the slightest pedal push. It's something I've gotten used to to be honest. Not really something I'm looking forward to them fixing so it does not bother me.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Hey, it really does!

[@inter-linked]

Decent review, Rob. That extra effort certainly pays off.

[@matthewl7585]

Excellent video Rob and a awesome looking machine.

[@df9834]

I have a Hai bike. There great value for money. 💪💪

[@MojePrzeboje]

Tell me one thing. If this is highest model (7.0) and running on Yamaha, what happened to flyon system? It's no longer the highest and most advanced system?

[@MaxGiehl]

its an addition to the flyon line, wich features the TQ Motor.

[@alexbiketester]

I agree - I also mostly used the standard power mode. good vid. Im going out now to ride my haibike.... I think there are. only a few of us with them! lol..

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Cheers Alex, just read your review on moto.it also, its a great bike isnt it?!

[@alexbiketester]

@@RobRidesEMTB You can read italian??? hahahah It's impressive. Think about it a base model Other brand bike starts at the same price.... with "worst" (its relative) performance....

[@RobRidesEMTB]

@@alexbiketester Google translate can read anything 😂

[@TheBikePilot]

You lucky bugger Boycey!!

[@alexbiketester]

@@TheBikePilot it's just a short hop away... Can ride there weekly.... It's really rough though. I suggest Rincine as a better location.... Of course unless you try you won't know........

[@richardwilliams2004]

Another high quality very informative video, keep up the great content Rob.

[@seandoxey8419]

Great video Rob. What size were you riding. L or XL.

[@matusdolhy269]

Great review, bike looks amazing. I'm not ebike owner yet, but I'm looking for some. By the way I would love to know more about your van too... Looking stunning 👌

[@whatsthatnoise954]

Rob -thoroughly enjoy your channel. Thank you for all you produce on eMTB bikes and topics. I only have a cheapo fat tire ebike at the moment which has been fun for sure but I want to pull the trigger on a real machine soon. Haibike's 2020 Allmtn 2.0 is a contender on my list but now this 2021 really is, as you say, outstanding -definitely giving the Turbo Levo Comp something to worry about. I truly hope it will be sold in the US. One small concern I have, however, is the carbon REAR triangle. In my research on emtb bikes I have come across a few riders saying to stay away from carbon rears because they have experienced cracking or other damage they don't experience with aluminum rears. I'm curious to know what you feel on the subject seeing that this bike is all carbon. Again, thank you for your reviews - they are invaluable.

[@wreckage-vs5jv]

glad to see they finally lowered that top tube jewels killer

[@MrHappys12]

just bought this 2021 allmtn 6 for me son he loves it know he does jumps that he was to scared todo on his carera bike

[@BOTG_Adventures]

Managed to get the last one in the UK available in mid Nov. Otherwise have to wait till end of July 2021 for more UK stock. Th ks for video... Can't wait.

[@BOTG_Adventures]

Rob (Hello from Leeds btw) which sat nav do you use? garmin 510? ps and what camera do you use to present looks really crisp.

[@vortigerncelticrock3100]

Maybe not quite the last one, saw one in Powerbikes, Dumfries yesterday.

[@BOTG_Adventures]

@@vortigerncelticrock3100 ah well i spent a whole day trying to get one :) will document my bikes arrival and my thoughts on it, but as you know rob said it was a stonker of a bike :)

[@bikeninja956]

nice review. Cool to see all the new tech that's coming out. Man, not cheap but for a FULL CARBON e-rig....def competitively priced. I'm intrigued.

[@joshhaibike1365]

I’m currently riding the 2020 3.0 all mountain, love this colour scheme interested to see what they do with 2021 line up. Great video rob.

[@vonyp6018]

Isn't this the 2020 lineup? There are 2 types available

[@megane230f1]

i like how you can make that bike over 1100 wh with an add on battery, do like the blue of that bike 👌🏻👍

[@Leoniums100]

Should i proceed with a 2021 3.0 allmtn you believe? How is it behave?

[@julianassem2780]

Great review and great bike. Because of the price and the technical specs (full carbon frame, shimano deore xt breaks and shifting, fox factory ...) I am really thinking about buying this bike instead of a specialized levo or levo sl !! Also because I planned with a budget of about 6000€ which would be close to this great package. What you think ?

[@altt-check1-2]

Awesome ,, purchased one today. I’m So looking forward for its arrival

[@marcusoutdoors4999]

Excellent review, I’m intrigued to know more about the mullet setup and its advantages I have a 2020 Levo comp and I do think it is overwheeled at the back end relative to the early model, it may be in my head, but I feel a giroscopic effect when doing fast hard turns, not to mention the greater mud clearance issues with a 29er rear wheel. That said I am being picky as everything else is great. Having come over from motorbikes, I do think there’s something in a mullet set up... any chance of an in-depth feature... why some companies have gone mullet and why others sit on the other side of the argument, you could do some good interviews

[@IAmEd]

Great video, deserve a lot more subscribers! Only issue is your making me dangerously close to getting an e bike 😅

[@RobRidesEMTB]

😄😂😂👍

[@TheBikePilot]

Do it man, you won't regret a penny...! Especially not on this bike..

[@lukenukem1164]

I'm watching this now after looking at the allmtn 10, 2022....with a small display 🙂

[@geraldmaybebaby1585]

Love the parallel tracking shot at 1:40. Nice bike. Got no spare 5 grand though.

[@alundra199293]

Hey Rob, great Video again, thanks. But you forgot to mention the allowed users weight again. Its the biggest con in my opinion, cause the systemweight is at 120KG again. So the driver including clothes and backpack may only weight around 95 Kilogram. So a lot of people arent able to buy this bike again. When you and other tester´s/reviewer´s wont mention it, the industrie wont fix it! So pls do always mention it in pros and cons, if a bike doesnt allow tall/heavy people to ride it.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

HI Florian, thanks for your feedback. I did actually speak with Haibike about this exact point. Currently its rated to 120KG, BUT, they are waiting for certification for a part on the bike that will hopefully be taking it to 150Kg. That certification just is not ready yet. Obviously its not guaranteed that it will make it, but I remember them feeling positive about the fact it should do. They have rated it for 120KG for now, hopefully it'll be updated ti 150KG soon if it passes. Thanks, Rob.

[@alundra199293]

@@RobRidesEMTB ah okay, that sounds great.

[@leeteemtb9587]

Can't believe that I missed this video Rob, really good one too. Liking the haibike and already looking for a new ebike for next year 2021. This is on my shortlist. I prefer the allmtn 5

[@markc6030]

Great video Rob, how would you rate this against the Flyon range?

[@fantasticjourney]

The flyon seems to have an awesome range, but it has a pretty bad one even with 630Wh. The reason: it uses a 48 volt connection, where Yamaha, Shimano, Bosch... are having a 36 Volt connection. Ive been driving a Flyon for the last 900km and tbh I prefer bikes like this one. More than 60km are not possible with the flyon. This one should make 100+ km.

[@ImFromDenmark1980]

Just ordered the same model in black from Germany. I got it for 5440€ :-)

[@RobRidesEMTB]

What a deal!

[@vonyp6018]

Nice bike and nice to see haibike is essentially offering an alternative to the TQ bohemoth. Shame they didn't work with yamaha to offer a TQ style display

[@StuartKerrison]

Great in-depth review about a very interesting bike. Cheers.

[@MrAndrew2509]

Great video Rob, your videos are getting better every time. The bike looks amazing 👍

[@p0tshot191]

Great video, I have zero idea what to get now to be honest, this looks great and there are so many amazing contenders in that c£5k price bracket.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Hi Iain. I agree. The choice is getting harder. But great to see we have many many great options.

[@shaunbellefeuille3941]

It would be cool if you compaired the new models to your top pick of 2020... Love your channel!!!

[@theonlyhowsie4281]

Great spec e-bike! Much better looking than previous haibike’s but what were they thinking with the blue splash of colour at the back. I get that its a nod to the motorcross heritage, but i think it’s pretty offensive IMO. Overall another step forward for the E bike market!

[@toooldfortwowheels2048]

I know this was a paid promo but the spec for that money and the weight are very good next to the competition.

[@intrepidCreative]

Whats better? This or the new Turbo Levo Comp at roughly the same price point? Spec looks better on this, but does the support you get from Specialized make it a better choice? Thoughts?

[@pizzagorgonzola]

seems like great value for money, and i like the all out ebike design of the haibikes, but i can't understand why anyone still makes a frame where the battery drops out, instead of sliding out like on a Levo, that makes such a big difference when designing the frame, it's a no for me. and the battery isn't 700wh or more, also hard to understand. i also don't understand why those motor builders insist on their creation to be so visible, it's ugly, and frankly i don't want to see the brand of my motor, i want to forget that i'm using one.

[@dectcs007]

Another top notch non biased planted review...keep up the great work Rob!

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Cheers!!

[@chillout1109]

Excellent review as always Rob. I never really liked the 2020 AllMtn 3.0/3.5 design. That squared off silhouette failed to make my heart skip. But I'm really loving this 2021 design. It's so unmistakably Haibike. Full carbon full suspension eMTB for £5599! 😲 I think it's time to swap my Stereo Hybrid 160 for this bike.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

I agree the design is great. Myself and Jon (The Bike Pilot) both love it. As soon as you see it in the flesh it looks even better.

[@993cupswe]

Great review Rob, your review of YT Decoy got me to buy one last year and I think you did it again :), if it only was a Bosch motor Really like your independent review and that your are not biased like some other channel ;)

[@TheBikePilot]

I had a brief go on the motor and it's very comparable. It has a lovely sound to it, like a Formula E Engine. Everyone that has Yamaha Motors have commented on how reliable they are.

[@gertlemmens5579]

Great video as always but still not sure about the helmet Rob.. 😀🤷🏼‍♂️

[@moseven4971]

nice review - Rob - what is the gear you are wearing? helmet/shorts/goggles etc? also have you done any gear reviews? I'm looking for some new stuff. Cheers. MO.

[@stephenbrown5844]

Excellent review Rob, love my cube stereo 160 action team 😉😍👌

[@CAZMO410]

Brilliant video. Great review Rob!

[@sportherz]

What would be really interesting would be a comparison to the similarly priced Turbo Levo Comp, Clearly the components used in the Haibike are superior, but does that carry over to a superior riding experience? I was leaning to the Specialized, but this made me think. What should I consider for reaching a decision here?

[@bigthang-on8458]

i am on a spesialized Comp now its good but having had a Haibike all mtn 7 a 2016 model I am going back to Yamaha its a much more reliable motor and better riding experience.

[@royayersrules]

You took that a few places. And didn't cry off in the rain - respec!

[@RobRidesEMTB]

😊😊 Got caught in some proper downpours on this shoot 😂

[@harleyboyd9998]

Love Yamaha my Trekking Haibike is a Yamaha & such a great bike I bought a Yamaha Nduro for off road what a bike.

[@andrewhurstcars]

Have Specialized misjudged their pricing with bikes at this spec/price point?

[@ozPanzer]

Yes. They're taking the piss on a massive scale now. Plus all the motor issues they have....

[@TimDonaworth]

I'd have to agree, as a Levo owner, and someone looking to buy a 2nd eMTB, I almost can't look at Spec anymore, prices have gone up, and they've removed one of the only decent value builds they had (Carbon Comp). And all entry level (starting at $5k USD) have such low spec components - it's very frustrating. I'm seriously looking at either the YT Decoy or now THIS as alternatives.

[@vonyp6018]

Massively. I always thought they went in the wrong direction, upninstead of down and dont get me started with the levo sl. Lol

[@megane230f1]

specialized bikes 😂😂😂 pure overpriced sh_te

[@vonyp6018]

@@TimDonaworth I have cube stereo 140 sl which is best bang for buck imo, epecially with the 85nm upgrade. THEY do a 160 too. The other alternative is radon by mtb.de. I'm 1k miles in and I literally haven't looked back. Lol