Mark et al. I'm a senior rider, and have owned both the 750 and the 350 in the past 8 months. The high weight of the 750 was the reason for me trading down to the 350 recently. Younger owners may not notice manoeuvring weight. Perhaps being from a scooter (cvt) background, I love the 350. I think its what 90% of bikers would be happy with, if only they'd try it! The 750 has rider modes, small underseat storage, 70mpg, excellent digital dash. The 350 has traction control, (as 750), but is all you need instead of rider modes. Larger underseat storage, 80-85mpg, analogue dials. Here's the crunch: Forza 750 UK price £10399 (July 22), Forza 350 £5699. In my opinion, the lower price option would satisfy many people. The 750 would perhaps appeal more to bikers trading down from a powerful sports bike. (Its a motorcycle underneath the scooter clothing). The 350 would appeal to a rider progressing up through licence advancements, scooter riders looking for a touring capable mount. In other words, people trading up!
@markpulling122 жыл бұрын
Great comment Geoff 👍
@ohwell2790 Жыл бұрын
I agree and I am 78 in good shape and still ride my Kymco 2012 200 I. May move up to the 350 Honda. We'll see, maybe. But my ride is still serving me well. New is just so much fun.
@stevellewellyn7192 Жыл бұрын
I'm inclined to agree about the Forza 350 being all you need Geoff. I have one currently and it's a really useful machine, and also a CB650R. I'm thinking of combining both my current bikes into a single bike, and the Forza 750 seems to fit the bill for me. I think a test ride is on the cards. Great review Mark, thank you.
@geoff6942 Жыл бұрын
@@ohwell2790 I admire you greatly. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
@geoff6942 Жыл бұрын
@@stevellewellyn7192 Yes, test it. If you can handle the manouvering weight, its a great machine.
@pompey1743 жыл бұрын
Good review Mark, although the Forza 750 is not for me. I have a Forza 350 which is a brilliant bike and I'm really happy with. The 750 seems to be a NC750 which Honda have played around with to call it a scooter. I can't see the point of spending 10 grand on a bike that does not have an adjustable windscreen, poor stowage, is relatively heavy and has a chain drive. I think Honda have missed a trick with this one and perhaps an uprated Forza based on the 350 would of been the way to go.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks yes the Forza 350 is definitely the one I'd buy ;)
@GS-xg4nz2 жыл бұрын
How is the rear suspension on the 350? I had the 300 for a while and it was really jarring over rough, potholed roads. The 750 is tempting due to better suspension and more poke but nearly twice the price? Decisions, decisions....
@markpulling122 жыл бұрын
@@GS-xg4nz hi I found it ok no problem...just nothing amazing .. I guess that's the downfall of just the basic twin shock set up on the 300/350s ....yes I get why you like the 750 suspension :)
@pompey1742 жыл бұрын
@@GS-xg4nz I find the stock rear suspension fine but many owner do an upgrade. For less £300 it is possible to improve the rear suspension with replacement shocks if that's your thing, 🙂 a lot cheaper than a 10 grand big Forza 😀
@li9027 Жыл бұрын
Forza 350 на вариаторе?
@johnbaker94833 жыл бұрын
Demo that bike and I was so impressed..came back and bought one ..
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Haha that's definitely the way to do it John ! Cheers mark
@Sveinjk3 жыл бұрын
im buyd this bike size 350 CC 2 weeks ago , impressed by that bike also....
@scoopdawg84052 жыл бұрын
Another awesome review Mark thank you - colllected my Forza 750 today (used one with less than 2k on the clock) and absolutely love it. Enjoyable, informative review as usual - who needs a test ride when you're doing them for us! Keep up the good work 👍
@markpulling122 жыл бұрын
Many thanks 👍 Great choice with the Forza
@cctv52773 жыл бұрын
I have an NC750x in my livery and love it. The Forza looks like it has the same engine (with the DCT). Great review, it looks very comfortable and great you can stretch your legs out. 👍
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks I was very impressed.... lovely engine very relaxed Cheers mark
@StephanoHamez3 жыл бұрын
We love your reviews from Australia 🇦🇺 Very keen to compare this with the T Max 560.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stevie t max 560 coming soon :)
@kamalkamal-se2ze3 жыл бұрын
@@markpulling12 Thank you
@alvaroodeh479411 ай бұрын
Ive tried this bike and its a dream machine, its such a good all rounder, I had to settle for the Forza 350. Its just a matter of time for the upgrade
@guernseybozrah3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got an NC750X and have fallen in love with the DCT. So much so my other manual bikes aren’t getting a look in at the mo. It’s just so easy to ride
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
I'd like an nc750 x dct myself Regards mark
@richiep35202 жыл бұрын
I'm Considering this now after the hideous T max tech max 2022 was unveiled 🤢🤮. Seems like a lot more meat for your money.
@ivicagg2 жыл бұрын
Hi, i owned xmax 300 for four years, an drove 30k km with it. Now i bought a year old forza 750, with 3000km. All that i can say is that the bike is brilliant, it brings smile to my face every day. I drove friend's tmax 530 many times, and i can tell honda is much much better. No drama, more smooth, more relaxed, and more secure feeling. I Installer givi 56l top case, and two givi side cases 36l, set and ready for big trips. Cheers🙂
@li9027 Жыл бұрын
За сколько купил брат и где?
@J.Harry.T Жыл бұрын
Surely a more shape compatible top-case could have been found. A lot of care and effort has gone into designing a lovely sleek machine and the appearance has then been ruined by the addition of an incongruous cube. Nice scooter. Too much engine and insufficient room under the seat. Shame about the chain drive.
@MrAndrew19533 жыл бұрын
Very impressive machine comprehensively featured apart from cruise control. Should be an option. Biggest problem would be overcoming my own motorcycle prejudice and ribbing from friends if I bought one.
@rogersmith53712 жыл бұрын
I have a bike (a Kawasaki Vulcan Voyager 1700) and a scooter a Suzuki Burgman 650 AN Executive (both no longer sold in Australia). I love both of them for different reasons but the one thing I would say is ride what you like - put aside any prejudices or preconceptions and take one for a spin. This one, the Yamaha TMAx, the Suzuki 650 if you can get one or any other maxi scooter. You'll be surprised once you hit the motorway. They easily keep up with all the big boys and are just as if not more comfortable. This one doesn't have cruise control which is a negative but then not a lot of other bikes do (the Suzuki doesn't but the Kawasaki does).
@robertmartin94223 жыл бұрын
The trouble with this (unlike the 350) is that it is chain drive which for me rather defeats one of the main benefits of a scooter i.e. no chain maintenance. I have a Forza 300 by the way and it is fab.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
I'd agree rob the 350 is brilliant It would be my choice :) Cheers mark
@rkbeswick3 жыл бұрын
Nice review as usual Mark. I test rode the Yamaha Tmax, but didn't like the high seat, and the high, monotonous revs. It felt to me like a jet-ski on wheels, and not the kind of machine I would want to go any distance on, despite the cruise control and electric screen. I then test rode the Forza 750. I loved the low revving, torque laden engine, the great V-twin sound, the relaxing ride, and of course the amazing, and unique to Honda, dual clutch transmission. In other words all the things that you were impressed with in your review. And yes, I bought one, despite the lack of cruise control and electric screen, which I've had available on several BMW touring bikes and rarely used. Besides, at 5'-8'', the stock screen is perfect for me. I think the Honda Forza 750 is a great touring machine with good weather protection, and I'm looking forward to doing lots of miles on mine. Thanks Mark.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
That sounds great Ray ....yes what an engine on the Forza great choice All the best mark
@marksimpson52183 жыл бұрын
Ray, how good are these at long distance touring?
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
@@marksimpson5218 I'm sure ray will be along soon but I rode it for two hours and could have easily gone all day ...the engine is Very relaxed at speed Cheers mark
@rkbeswick3 жыл бұрын
@@marksimpson5218 Hi Mark, I’m still running the Forza in and haven’t yet done any real distance. However, I’ve owned and toured on maxi scooters before and found them to be very suitable for long distances. Having done 300 miles on the Forza, I think it will prove to be the best yet. It’s very comfortable and very good on fuel. I think the engine was built for touring. The torque comes at very low revs, and it throbs and sounds like a 90 degree V twin, which makes for a very pleasant and enjoyable ride. I intended to visit some friends in the south of France as soon as the restrictions are lifted, without hesitation. You should try one.
@marksimpson52183 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ray, I will try one.
@life_in_the_wild25732 жыл бұрын
Good review Mark, thank you. I was torn between the Yamaha Tmax 560 Tech, the Honda X ADV 750 & this Honda Forza 750.. And I can honestly say now, I think this is the best out of all three. What a stunning little bike this is & with that DCT built in makes it an amazing bit of kit. Perfect for me this is & I think I'll definitely be purchasing one over the next 6 months. 😎👌🏽
@markpulling122 жыл бұрын
Many thanks 👍 great choice
@life_in_the_wild25732 жыл бұрын
@@markpulling12 😎🤝🏾🤝🏾
@cornisc Жыл бұрын
hi. did you go ahead and buy the forza? I'm in the same situ right now. Forza 750 (have always had Hondas) OR Yamaha OR XADV? I'd love cruise control for longer journeys... thoughts?
@cornisc Жыл бұрын
@life_in_the_wild2573
@bfarm443 жыл бұрын
Another great ride that won’t make it to the US even though markets are changing rapidly from big v twins to more manageable bikes. I’d gobble one of these up in a heartbeat.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment regards mark
@nitram_nosnibor3 жыл бұрын
What a marvelous review, thank you.
@timbounds71903 жыл бұрын
I haven't ridden this one, but I test rode the original X-ADV (my current ride is a Yamaha Tmax). I wasn't overwhelmed with the X-ADV as I didn't like the engine character - its seemed vibey and burbley compared to the turbine smooth Tmax, and I was surprised that the super-duper hi-tech DCT gearbox didn't seem to add much to the riding experience over the very simple cheap CVT that the Tmax has! The X-ADV felt quite slow and ponderous, but I know it is deceptive as it out performs the Tmax - its all about the torque obviously. From video reviews of this Forza, I think that Honda have improved it compared to the last X-ADV - it sounds a bit less ponderous - its got a little more power, and I guess they've tweaked the electronics and the DCT to give it a more lively feel. I'm seriously considering a Forza to replace my current Tmax, but I still feel its a head vs heart thing. The Forza is probably the most sensible, but the Tmax is just such fun and it really gets to you!
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Well said Tim ...I love the tmax :) Cheers mark
@worzysp12 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Never seen the leg room review before An absolute must 🙌 wow thank you so much
@alancox75723 жыл бұрын
Didn't think I would but quite liked that, good review Mark.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alan ,!
@kimjongwin2 жыл бұрын
I was given the Honda Integra when my bike was stolen. Honestly, it was an amazing comfortable ride. So tempted to switch to a big scooter
@li9027 Жыл бұрын
Какая максимальная скорость у тебя по GPS?
@brandywell442 жыл бұрын
Can't help feeling that Honda missed a trick (and sales) by not having a final belt drive. It really is a revamped Honda Integra which never was a big seller. A 300c scooter would be a much more practical choice with its adequate performance, better underseat storage, and clean final drive. However, it's nice to have choice of different bikes and what one rider dismisses another falls in love with.
@rafkerkhofs69579 ай бұрын
Great review, Mark. As always.
@ronaldwaddell31353 жыл бұрын
Well done as always, I guess we will see this scooter in the USA in about 2 years.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Ronald ... shame it's not available in the USA yet
@timh56533 жыл бұрын
I sure hope so.
@ohwell2790 Жыл бұрын
Ride a Kymco 2012 Like 200 I and I am 78. These modern bikes are so sophisticated and beautiful, and ridder friendly they are just amazing and the prices do not seem out of line with the features offered. Need to get a end of life bike to make them fun and exciting, may add a few years they would be so enjoyable. Thanks for the reviews.
@mikeamos52964 ай бұрын
I see below, someone saying Forza 350 is all you need .............. Well I'm trading my 350 in for a Forza 750. Recently did a tour of Ireland and some poorly surfaced roads were killing my back (even though I have upgraded YSS rear shocks). It's a by-product of having so much un-sprung weight on the rear wheel. The 750 has motorcycle rear suspension, which is far superior. Yes the downside is the size and weight, but the weight is low down and I hope i'm going to be fine with it (I'm 69). Love being able to shift my legs around on both of them.
@ukasz89243 жыл бұрын
Very nice scooter but Luggage compartment should be able to fit two helmets like in other Forzas Chain instead of a belt seriously? Rear wheel could be an inch bigger Weighs a lot. Other than the above which I deem necessary following options would be nice Cruise control Heated seat and grips Electric wind screen
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lucas ...yes definitely needs belt drive :)
@jeffwalker13222 жыл бұрын
Not wanting a high maintenance chain yo take care of. The belt drive is a huge win for the Yamaha
@patrickkealy43873 жыл бұрын
Yes its a nice maxi scooter but it comes up short when you compare it to a Burgman 650 Executive. With the Burgman you get an adjustable electric operated wind screen, electric adjustable side mirrors, heated grips and seat and storage for two helmets. Power wise they are about the same, the same for gas mileage. I prefer creature comforts on my maxi scooter and went with a Burgman.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Patrick....yes I've always been impressed with the burgman 650 ...shame they have stopped making it now regards mark
@tedwitus3 жыл бұрын
Great video Mark, thanks.. ~ I wish we could get this bike in the U.S. ! my Forza 300 was swiped a year ago and I'm struggling to find what bike is right for me.. this would be it but, well, Honda doesn't think we like scoots in N. America.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Ah that's a shame what about the yamaha t max ? Cheers mark
@mike1967sam19 күн бұрын
I have the forza 750. My actual first Choice was the ADV 350, I loved the ADV 350 ... But, when I realized that it had a top speed of 155 (142 GPS) and the brakes we're basically non existant I said "No way!!!" I know and have known the dangers in bike riding from a horrific experienced 30 years ago, I had to go with the Forza 750 because it had brakes like you get on a real sports bike even a super sports bike.
@jfro58673 жыл бұрын
Never ridden a scoot or even looked at anything like this BUT I really like the look of this and could see myself getting one. The DCT is a perfect match for a scooter but this one is big enough to do proper open road speeds too. 👍
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Hi Jon ....yes the bigger ones like this are really good for long distance touring cheers mark
@dailyrider2975 Жыл бұрын
Weird Honda Forza 750 and Honda X-ADV 750 basically the same vehicles? Both around $10k I believe?
@wolfburgman3 жыл бұрын
Good review, sounds good too. This though is not a scooter, more an automatic motorcycle. Also for what it is I feel its far too expensive as are many of these so called maxi scoots. The problem is that once you go beyond 400cc its hard to have a larger engine connected by one bolt through the swingarm. I currently have a kymco xciting 400i. A true maxi scooter and £3.500 cheaper than this bike. I could not justify the extra layout for this. The kymco is more than capable of doing what I require and will quite happily cruise all day long at motorway speeds so touring is no problem. Also more storage as standard and I suspect better economy, cheaper insurance and running costs to boot. But each to their own I say. Again thank you for an informative review.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks Phil ....yes 100% the 300/400 class is the best I think for maxi scooters...must try a kymco ...my current favorite is the Forza 350 Regards mark
@wolfburgman3 жыл бұрын
@@markpulling12 I've heard good reports on both these scoots. 300 and 350cc Today we are spoilt for choice but not as much in this country where larger scoots are harder to sell. I ride motorcycles and scooters so I experience The best of both. I constantly watch the market for new machines which is why reviews such as yours are invaluable. Few dealers have scooters available to test ride so you take your chances. One scooter I am waiting for is a 310cc offering from a Chinese manufacture called zontes. This will be their first scooter. On paper it looks good and zontes have a growing reputation here in the UK although progress is painfully slow.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
@@wolfburgman I have reviews on zontes 125 s ....very good bikes
@wolfburgman3 жыл бұрын
@@markpulling12 ok, thats brilliant. I owned an older model called the tiger 125. I have owned from new 2016. Zontes 250s phantom. Overall good bikes
@GS-xg4nz2 жыл бұрын
I'd look at a Kymco, trouble is finding one. Autotrader search just now shows one 550? No dealers in Scotland I know of either. Mind you, Yamaha and Suzuki nearest dealers are over 100 miles away but Honda on my doorstep so will probably end up with a Forza ....
@musamusa2961 Жыл бұрын
Thank You Almighty God I will buy one for myself
@BlazinBlades3 жыл бұрын
I will probably get one as soon as they do come with cruise control I think it’s a matter of a year or 2 🍻
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Cruise will make this a great tourer Thanks mark
@brettroman32182 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark! A motorcycle that looks like a scooter!
@iam_ilman80943 жыл бұрын
I really want this bike so bad, but in Indonesia Honda didn't sell 750cc version, just 250cc.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Hi ... thanks for the comment That's a shame it's not available in Indonesia Cheers mark
@markrobinson26483 жыл бұрын
Honda do not like cruise control do they. No excuse these days with ride by wire. Bikes like this would be great with cruise
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Agree with you on that mark ...Honda please fit cruise control on this :)
@scottastell9415 Жыл бұрын
The foreskin is a nice concept from Honda. LOL shame about the name choice: Foreskin indeed!
@watfordhammer63 жыл бұрын
I’m looking to buy a new scooter and really like the look of this one.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony ....it's great ! Regards mark
@Sveinjk3 жыл бұрын
@@markpulling12 buy this one... its a real powerful beauty
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
@@Sveinjk most definitely ! :)
@thomasjoseph47183 жыл бұрын
I do not understand why they make a scooter that weighs a ridiculous 235 kg wet and has chain drive.
@nikos-giorgos3 жыл бұрын
Burgman is about 270kg. Just saying...
@thomasjoseph47183 жыл бұрын
@@nikos-giorgos 270kg ? Think I'll buy a Goldwing !
@solo-nx5ml14 күн бұрын
the 150 cc scooter is more than enough for me but if i want more cc i will go for real motorcycle the big one
@mistery00t293 жыл бұрын
Nice review,must be the only one on English at the moment. I love honda but I really dont get what is the whole point of chain drive on a maxi scooter? They came up with DCT which is great on all bikes,but chain is pointless!
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Even a belt drive would have been better I think :)
@jamesbatten8659 Жыл бұрын
I’m going for a Burgman650 executive , the Cadillac of scooters comfortably, reliable and has all the creature comforts , not perfect and it’s pig ugly but you can pick a low mileage bike up for 5 grand private and the Bergman is a tried and tested maxi scooter, I’m going to trade in my GTS 300 Vespa which gives me a terrible backache for the Burgman . Just because it’s the latest doesn’t mean it’s the greatest Great review ride safe . 😁🇬🇧🏍
@Beeds53 жыл бұрын
How much would it cost if it had all the toys the Tmax has ? i'll start with £285 for Honda's heated grips !
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Good point ....!
@Zeb-012 ай бұрын
Hi Mark, I fancy a Scooter after watching the Forza 750 you review, I have a bike license and I’ve had loads of big stuff. Which Scoot would you recommend?
@markpulling122 ай бұрын
Hi I'd recommend the Forza 350 that's my favorite...all things considered....price weight performance etc Cheers mark
@Nooziterp13 ай бұрын
The 350 has an electrically adjustable screen but the 750 doesn't. Hmmm...
@mike1967sam2 ай бұрын
Hello Mark, I've seen several of your videos and I'm watching this one (from the future) 2024 because I just bought a second hand Forza 750 and your videos are very comprehensive, there isn't a single detail you miss..
@markpulling122 ай бұрын
Thanks mike I appreciate that 😁 Cheers mark
@keithfowler2013 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I'm looking for a way to keep riding,with an arthritic hip. I can't kick my leg over the saddle anymore. I might be able to ease my leg across that middle engine tunnel ???
@guernseybozrah3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, Just found the forza 750 review and superb as always. Thanks John
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks John :)
@bfarm443 жыл бұрын
Yamaha is contemplating sending the tmax 560 and if that gets here (the US) first Honda will loose my sale anyway. The TMAX 560 Techmax has all the things missing here with an adjustable windscreen 7.5 inches, heated seats and grips
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Regards mark
@bfarm443 жыл бұрын
@@markpulling12 with the missus on the back 750cc makes more sense but I bet the 560 would be fine. Really disappointed in Honda’s decision to not sell it here
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
@@bfarm44 yes that's a shame....you'd think it would be a top seller
@paulrollinson13053 жыл бұрын
Just can't see the advantage of this over the NC750- which is a lot cheaper, has the same amount of storage and better suspension. Also: non-adjustable screen, though the Forza 350 has one that's electrically operated? What's that about, Honda?
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Yes Paul I did wonder why no electric screen ? Hmmm
@davideccles16173 жыл бұрын
I agree don’t understand why the screen is not electric??
@xtc2v4 ай бұрын
I think the important differentiation between scooter and motorbike is that a motorbike's swinging arm never carries the engine. Bodywork, automatic transmission or small wheels is not an exclusive feature that defines the difference. I'd say the Forza with its frame mounted engine is a motorbike with weather protection.
@thecrayondemo3 жыл бұрын
Great review, have you done the nc700/750s review? Is it the same engine?
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Hi yes the same engine ....I'm due to do it in the next month or so :) Cheers mark
@NMCD08923 жыл бұрын
@@markpulling12 just saw your review of the Rebel 1100. Newly subbed. Seriously considering either the new NC750X or the rebel just comes down to Rebel's style and performance vs cost to buy and MPG of the NC750X. Looking forward to your take on the new NC!
@CheekyMonkey0072 жыл бұрын
I don't understand WHY you are calling this a SCOOTER when it's obviously an AUTOMATIC MOTORBIKE just The same as the DCT HONDA GOLDWING, don't think you'd call that a SCOOTER !!!!!
@markpulling122 жыл бұрын
www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles.html I agree but it's in the "scooter" section on the Honda website Cheers mark
@nilobeebee7 ай бұрын
How is a 750cc with DCT come cheaper than a 560cc TMAX? TMAX is more expensive than a 650cc BMW scooter actually.
@nilobeebee7 ай бұрын
I think TMAX got used to ZERO competition for so many years that's why they're priced at a premium. The Kymco AK550 is practically a replica of the TMAX but at half the price and a lot faster.
@mattivirta3 жыл бұрын
good size engine but need sweep out all plastic covers totally uglu maybe then show at motorbike. this is ugly shit. not newer buy, maybe if send to me free to maha sarakham i give my 13 year son.him need scooter now .
@tomtilley86603 жыл бұрын
big shame there's no criuse control deal breaker when it comes to touring
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom yes I think most bikes should have cruise these days Cheers mark
@ashleytatham50033 жыл бұрын
Good review, I know how good the engine is I have a 2014 nc750 you should be able to get around 80 mpg
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ashley ....wow now that is good mpg Cheers mark
@johnbateman32443 жыл бұрын
Very impressed with the Honda Forza 750 I am currently on a Burgman 400 and back to bikes after 35 years and looking to upgrade already after 10 months so I think I will have to find a Forza to try out. Good review thank you.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks John yes highly recommend it :) Regards mark
@GS-xg4nz2 жыл бұрын
Hi John, is the Burg 400 lacking or just fancy a change/more power? I'm still trying to decide, Burgman 400, Forza 350/750, Tmax.
@johnbateman32442 жыл бұрын
@@GS-xg4nz Hi The Burgy "was" a great bike and incredibly comfortable. It would certainly move on for a 400 and was not too bad two up. However in the end after looking at lots of reviews I finished up going back to a geared bike and bought a brand new Tracer 700 which is actually exactly the same as the 2021 Tracer 7 but a 2020 model. I was also tempted by the Honda NC750 DCT but after speaking to a mate who had one for a while I went with the Tracer. Mark did a really good review on the Tracer 7 and it swayed it. The reason I went back to ageared bike was I just wanted a bit more oomph on the overtakes as my wife has decided she likes bikes and wants to do a bit of touring "much to my surprise" and the Tracer ticked all the boxes. It is great as a solo ride and fine two up as my wife is very petite and to be honest probably the best pillion I have ever had. My mate who had the NC750 DCT for a while had also gone to a Tracer 700 and he said the Honda was a bit under powered and a bit uninspiring. I hope you find the right bike for you and would love to know what you get and what you think of it.
@GS-xg4nz2 жыл бұрын
@@johnbateman3244 Thanks for replying. Yeh, the Tracer is a great machine, the reviews of the newer ones are excellent. My main bike is a GS but I find that overkill for nipping about in town and some days I just want something simple with storage options. I have a V7 as well but I don't want to 'deface' that beauty with a top box! TBH, I should probably just stop watching YT reviews as they make me want new bikes. The Forza 350 or Burg 400 makes more sense for what I need but I do like the idea of this bigger more powerful scoot for relaxed B road stuff. Used prices hold up well. They want £5K for a mint 2019 Burgman. I can get a new one for £5999 so why would I take the chance? I love the Tmax looks too but v expensive for a 2nd bike. ! One thing that has come to light is service intervals and no Yam or Suzuki dealer in my city. 5 hour round trip but I have a great local Honda dealer and the Forzas have excellent 8000-mile service intervals so I suspect it'll be a Forza. Oh, and I saw the grey X Adv in the flesh yesterday...wow! Cheers
Hi different but still good handling as it's scooter based ...same performance personally I'd go for the nc750 and save money Regards mark
@edmwftw39307 ай бұрын
Chain drive? No thanks..LOL.
@arobjavan94812 жыл бұрын
I do not understand that the Japanese make these great bikes for long distance use, but don't include a cruise control !
@fingerhorn42 жыл бұрын
Much as I enjoy all of your reviews Mark, I'm surprised this time you seem uncritical of the quite absurd weight and profligate over-power of this machine. It achieves nothing more than the Forza 350 which is plenty capable of two-up, fast touring over long distances at half the price and arguably in better comfort. What more would anyone want?. Why would any person be willing to pay over 10 grand for a scooter that doesn't really deliver any quicker time from A to B or in any more comfort than something costing far less? Once you've enjoyed the "thrill" of slightly better acceleration at slightly lower rpm there is nothing left but the cumbersome weight that you have to push around once you've stopped.
@markpulling122 жыл бұрын
Good point I agree . the 350 is my favorite ...vfm scooter ...you'll always going to get people who want more of everything though ,size weight power speed acceleration etc All the best mark
@fingerhorn42 жыл бұрын
@@markpulling12 Thanks for the reply Mark. You are amazingly good at follow up posts. I hope your time is not taken up too much with them. I wonder whether you feel a little pressure not to be too critical with some reviews because of the delicate relationship with retailers and manufacturers who loan you review bikes with perhaps a constant expectation of a good review?
@richbrock9876 Жыл бұрын
I was interested until I saw the chain drive, I’m sick of oiling chains 😐 great review btw 👍
@willh5061 Жыл бұрын
Good review. I like it. Shame you couldn’t do a wet weather ride to see what the protection is like. Maybe next time.
@pclaxton78 Жыл бұрын
Nc750x with a different dresson
@khristoffersonalcachupas75363 жыл бұрын
greetings from Philippines..nice video you've got 👍
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks ....would love to visit Davao city oneday ! Regards mark
@khristoffersonalcachupas75363 жыл бұрын
@@markpulling12 davao...cebu....palawan....bohol and sibuyan island..such a beautiful place white sand beach perfect for relaxation away from noise.you are very much welcome mark. come and visit Philippines its more fun.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
@@khristoffersonalcachupas7536 sounds fantastic !
@gro_skunk Жыл бұрын
Wish they sold the Forza 750 here in the US
@ernieschatz37833 жыл бұрын
Ride by wire throttle on the Forza, NC750x, xADV 750, but not one cruise control among them. I'll wait, Honda, because I know you'll sprinkle that in later.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Yes cruise has to come soon on these Ernie :)
@cloggsy19713 жыл бұрын
Agree, it’s crying out for cruise control - is it available as an option?
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Hi Clive ....no I don't think so :( Best regards mark
@gromitdaddy3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts on it? I want one, but Honda won't sell one to me because I live in the US
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Ah that's a shame William... strange Honda don't sell it in the USA Regards mark
@alan97582 ай бұрын
Plus your local so i know the roads
@li9027 Жыл бұрын
Сколько стоит такой в евро или баксах? DTC автомат такой же как на NC750?
@thebikegeekandmore2448 Жыл бұрын
Could you please also test peugeot xp 400 gt?
@markpulling12 Жыл бұрын
Ok I'll see if I can get hold of one of those to review Best wishes mark
@stevenbatley8666 Жыл бұрын
To heavy for me ,out of that and the 350 I prefer the 350 to live with.
@christopherchapman7453 Жыл бұрын
Why does Europe get all the cool scoots!? I wish we got them over here in the states 😭
@chrisw42152 жыл бұрын
Mark would you take Forza750 or Yamaha Tmax560 purely for comfort on our UK roads. I still consider adv350 based on your review, but Forza and Tmax have that extra power, and I guess, are comfier. Also, it looks like you had more space on Forza750 than Tmax. Cheers
@markpulling122 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris yes just for comfort I'd take the Forza 750 it's a very sizeable machine with amazing cruising potential:) Cheers mark
@michalmisio643 жыл бұрын
I wish it could come to Usa becouse its not in Usa i had no choice but to buy relevant of this power engine Honda NC750x DCT
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Michal ...yes shame it's not in the USA but the nc750 dct is my favorite :) Cheers mark
@MrGF15822 жыл бұрын
Have a CTX700 Dthe CTXCT and love it! Also, have a Yamaha Majesty 400 and love it too! For long rides = the Yamaha. Cruise with attitude,the CTX. If I could get the Integra/Forza in the US it would be my main bike.
@markpulling122 жыл бұрын
Cheers greg
@johnbellamy6449 Жыл бұрын
you do great reviews Mark. I have at the moment honda a d v 350 , vespa gts 300 .honda sh mode 125 , and last but not least honda zoomer 50 f i . I am 74 next march and mostly ride with my wife with her on her Vespa .I thought of swapping 3 of the bikes in for a used Forza 750 but apart from not wanting to go far would be heavy for me now . I had a T max 530 a couple of years ago but didnt keep it long although it was s nice machine.
@markpulling12 Жыл бұрын
Many thanks John great comment Best regards mark
@muntasarz3 жыл бұрын
NC750X VS Forza VS Xadv comparison, please !!!
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
X adv review coming soon ! Best regards mark
@alan97582 ай бұрын
i have been riding and testing both cars and motorcycles for years your reviews are real world what people need to know about potential purchases not just how fast it can go, but real world use great work .
@markpulling122 ай бұрын
Many thanks Alan 🙂😁
@Peter-Alexander10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this great review. It's a lovely bike.
@Whatwhat12352 жыл бұрын
im not a fan of the shape ihave a forza 125 and i wish the 750 kept that shape
@volt86842 жыл бұрын
Prefer xmax dash with twin dials,not a fan of these modern ipad dashes
@ccooper87853 жыл бұрын
Fit this with footpegs rather than footboards and I would be interested... For my height, scooter floorboards are always to high and too far forward. As an NC750X owner I can highly recommend this engine to everyone. I wish the belt drive was available on the NC750X as well.
@sirikulsomsuwan3 жыл бұрын
The Forza is chain driven same as the NC750X
@tpv592 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT review. 10/10. 10/10. Thank You.
@richytodd74853 жыл бұрын
why didnt they put electric screen and diffrent mirrors.as the 350 forza...the adv looks great aswell :)
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Hi the 350 Forza does have an electric screen :). Regards mark
@michaelkrupitsky4362 жыл бұрын
Just got mine a couple of weeks ago paid 22k usd in Israel extremely happy with it so far I’m pretty big 1.94/98kg fits me perfect 🤩
@markpulling122 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael sounds great 😁 💯
@alexmorgan34353 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I just watched a review of a scooter as they are not really my thing. There looks like plenty of storage under the seat or in the huge top box for a couple of angle grinders, bolt cutters and a few pizzas ;@). Nice road you were riding on around the 17:00 mark and beyond before you got to the motorway. Honda seems to hate cruise control on bikes.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex ...yes one of the most impressive scooters I've ridden ...roll on the tmax 560 :)
@davideccles16173 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark hope you are well, if you can cast your mind back did you find the Forza 350 seat a better reach than the 750??
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Hi David no I think they are both the same reach to the ground Cheers mark
@paulbright7635 Жыл бұрын
Love it but unfortunately you can’t get the in australia 😡
@davideccles16173 жыл бұрын
Although I’m not a scooter?? fan another great review.
@photoholics3 жыл бұрын
Well, it's not really a "scooter". Basically, it's a bike in a scooter dress. I've bought it 2 months ago and did 2500 kilometers so far. The feeling during the ride is exactly like on a real motorcycle, but a lot more comfortable and with wheather protection. I love it!
@tiernangorduin79752 ай бұрын
@@photoholicswould you recommend this for a long tour with a pillion?
@photoholics2 ай бұрын
@@tiernangorduin7975Well, the longest tour I made with my girlfriend was something about 4-5 hours. And we were fine. However, my gf has a hight of 160 cm, so she is quite small and therefore felt real comfortable. 😉
@CrimsonRaven51 Жыл бұрын
How does manual work if there is no clutch? Old motorcycle rider looking to switch to a maxi scooter.
@markpulling12 Жыл бұрын
Hi it's a auto clutch you can change gear manually using plus and minus paddle buttons ...it's very slick or you can just use the auto mode all very clever stuff Best wishes mark
@johnmackay34583 жыл бұрын
if anyone is considering buying one of these.it might be best to get a faraday pouch to put your key in. anyone who see you get off your scooter can get all they need using a mob/phone and nick ya scooter while your on your walk about.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info John
@peter76243 жыл бұрын
Looks like a lovely scoot, and so low revving. Have a 400 Burgman at the mo[ but this looks in a different league quality and handling wise. Cheaper than a TMax too.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Yes peter these are a superb maxi scooter with a fantastic long legged engine regards mark
@jamesyeoman28753 жыл бұрын
Please test ride the Honda PCX 125 2021 as a lot of us are just starting out on scooters and would like your input.
@markpulling123 жыл бұрын
Ok James Id love too I'll see if I can get hold of a demo Cheers mark