2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe Review // Would you buy this plug-in?

[@jhr2112]

Bought one of these a few months ago, best Jeep I've ever owned. Don't have to worry about that ridiculous noise that a diesel makes and the range is fantastic. In 2 months I've driven 2,000 mi and only on my third tank of gas. It's definitely better and more capable than my 2013 Wrangler was and definitely a lot more powerful.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thanks for sharing! Everyone who has this PHEV, loves it.

[@toronado455]

nice!

[@capitaldd3693]

So, it's nearly 700miles(not kilometers) from a tank of diesel.....? If that's correct, that's some pretty decent mileage....

[@VictoriaG02]

Does this have to be plugged in, in order for the battery to charge? I live in an apartment complex and do not have EV charging available.

[@jhr2112]

@@VictoriaG02 no, it can be charged by driving it. However it takes quite a while to recharge that way. I have a level two charger at home and it takes two hours to charge. You can also charge it by driving it for 2 hours but you're using gasoline doing that. It does get excellent gas mileage just running the gas engine, but I'm not sure living in an apartment with no way to charge it is all that efficient. It can also be charged with a level one charger but that takes 10 hours or so but only needs a regular AC outlet.

[@toronado455]

One thing you can do in the 4xE but you can't in the diesel is creep around silently at low speeds. This is great for nature photography or whatever you wanna do out in the wild without being noisy!

[@andreaspencer9813]

Absolutely!

[@aaronfowler5477]

Or stalking your ex-girlfriend…. Shhhh

[@toronado455]

@@aaronfowler5477 Now you're beginning to understand!😂

[@fabianpineda3130]

yeah but for 20 miles

[@m15cell]

9 out 10 Prohibition Era Gangsters prefer the 4xE.

[@DonFather]

Diesel has a great story behind it for longevity, BUT don't forget that if you use it for short trips in town most of the time, you're going to clog up the smog filter in the pipes and that will need replacement at thousands of dollars for each replacement. You have to really step on it on the highway like once a week or something to clear that filter.

[@justSTUMBLEDupon]

Please tell them 😩

[@lipefas]

Thanks for being honest guys. Always refreshing watching different people having different opinions and discussing in harmony. Really appreciate it. Great review! Cheers

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you so much!

[@stormw777]

I got the 2018 2.0 turbo. Its got 37000 miles now and I been 4x4ing 2-3 times a week. Even with the 37 inch tires it still gets 20MPG on average. I have had no problems so far. It is so good in all 4x4 situations, its like a dream. hehe

[@largol33t1]

20 mpg is NOTHING special. My 1990 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 6 got 15-19 mpg and it wasn't a hybrid. I wouldn't want to drop a whopping $60K on this thing. I would have to drive it for years and years to get any savings out of it on fuel alone.

[@user-vw5je5qo2r]

Just bought a 4xe and it's perfect for our daily commute We never use the gas engine Since our commute is about two miles to work. We do have solar panels and our daily electric cost is about .20 cents. Far cry from what a regular gas or diesel engine would cost to fuel up on a monthly basis. If your commute is short then this is perfect , but if your hitting the freeway and travel more than 75 miles on the day might not make sense. We love it.

[@angrypenguin956]

I agree with Zack, I would go diesel. It's the engine that makes more sense in this type of vehicle.

[@bornagainbear]

That battery has a 10yr 100k warranty. Also, utilizing it reduces the wear and tear on the i4 gas engine.

[@sandman3881]

Do you know why it’s a 10 year fucckin warranty? Because batteries in electric vehicles last exactly 10 years then start needing replacing.. for cheaper electric vehicles than this - replacing batteries is 14k...

[@jameslyons158]

No it’s not $14k to replace battery 😅 maybe in a Tesla 😅

[@lilcourtny08]

@@sandman3881 that isn't true

[@thillyard1]

Where the 4xe makes sense is if you have a lot of short commutes. We have a 4xe Rubicon and we bought it 3.5 weeks ago and are still on the first tank of gas after the first 700 miles. We are averaging 31mpg with a mix of 70/30 city/hwy. After negotiating about 10% off MSRP and factoring in state and federal tax credits my 4xe is roughly $43K. I just don’t buy the argument that the diesel is a better deal.

[@Larss70]

Diesel its great for highway but winter and short trips kill fuel economy , Also Diesel engines are very expensive to repair . Plug in all the way if they could increase EV range to 70-80 km

[@wny9521]

I love how honest you both are and the unbiased viewpoints.

[@73challenger86]

Also folks - in support of the 4XE - it does 240km offroad in low range and that is because the starting current on the motor is low due to the low range gearing. What that boils down to is when taking small loads from a battery it will last longer between charges. In the street high range the starting current drawn from the battery is higher simply because the gearing is higher hence the 40km range. This vehicle would be a hotter seller if they got that street range up to about 80km.

[@carllaredo8480]

This is my wife’s favorite vehicle because it reminds her of the G Wagon! Here in Quebec it receives the ev grants so on a lease for a fully loaded wrangler it was $615 tax included per month which is a fantastic deal. I drive a Tesla and love the ev experience and we are all set up at home… the problem is it is to high and won’t clear the garage door height because of the one touch soft top… so for now we are keeping her X5 until I could convince her to let me buy her a Tesla Y 😊

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thanks for sharing!

[@carllaredo8480]

Update!!! So we are ordering the 4xe Sahara! With a slight modification to our garage door we are able to fit it in the garage! This will be a fun new addition to our household and will be leasing so at the end we can always get something different… the EV landscape will be very different in 4 years! As I mentioned in my previous post I drive a Tesla and I just recently bought a fun little summer toy a 2006 Mazda MX5 (NC) 6 speed manual to zoom zoom around in. Living our best life between electrification and back to basics visceral driving experience… I feel the 4xe will be fantastic as a family hauler and winter tank! Plus we have 16 year old twins with their learners permit and the 4xe will be a great vehicle to learn on and due to larger tires and rubber plumbers less wear and tear from curb rash and failed parallel parking attempts! Would love to see you guys do a classic Miata NC review and a Sahara 4xe! If you are ever back in Montreal you can borrow ours! Cheers.

[@andreaspencer9813]

@@carllaredo8480 Awesome, congratulations! The Sahara is the one I would get too. My son's friend's Mom just got the Rubicon and she LOVES it. Enjoy!

[@jasonb4988]

Hi .. interesting review. TY .. I actually own a 4Xe .. so let’s cover some of the topics you’ve mentioned. Diesel vs PHEV .. in the states, most are not cross shopping these two models. It’s a very different buyer. Additionally diesel in the states is almost always more expensive than super or high test. Plays into overall costs. As for mileage, you have three very distinct choices for how you drive it. Hybrid, Electric, or e-Save. Plus you can use brake RE-gen, where you can recharge the battery while in motion. Very cool. Depending on how you drive, I’m averaging 25 mpg + and that’s a hell of a lot better than my JK from 17’. I get a solid 30 miles on pure electric, or in Hybrid. Leasing is much more attractive in the USA than purchasing, two reasons, the $7500 tax credit which saves roughly $208.00 per month for a 36 month lease, and finally it allows you to get to become accustomed to the semi electric ⚡️ world in baby steps, without going full electric. I’ve dipped my toe in and so far I’m good. Also, 99.9% of people are not keeping any electric car 10 years. Technology is changing so fast is the main reason people don’t keep daily transportation vehicles. Even collectibles are a huge problem in the future, gas or EV. Many manufacturers even after market are only going back 10 years or less now for replacement parts. Not good .. Finally, it’s an extremely well executed product, both in fit and finish and performance. I actually have had some folks scratch their head when I pull away from them and can’t understand how it happened 😂👍 Mine is the High Altitude and it’s awesome looking. Ask the guy in his G63, the exact me color and trim as mine and he couldn’t stop looking or believe how mine looked compared to his G. Btw, we pulled off the light and had some fun too. Respect … for sure. FYI, I’ve owned G too, so I’m quite capable to make the comparison. If you are interested to tip your toe in the EV world, and condition yourself for a true EV than this is a great way to start. JMO .. PS, the High Altitude comes with the Dana axles the same as the Rubicon. Also, full maintenance for two years included. I can drive in the HOV lane too ..

[@CV-oo4lz]

Do you believe its safe with the battery inside as my son will be sitting above it in a car seat

[@cheesesandwich1236]

Good video. 1. Thank God you explained the smog vs CO2 thing, a lot of people are clueless on that one. 2. Do you really think a FCA diesel will run to 300k without issues ? 3. 40km on e alone is quite good and would cover many peoples daily driving. Most long distance commuters don't get a wrangler anyway. 4. A diesel needs at least 2-3 km of driving before its warmed up and efficient. 5. You can plug into a 120v. Very slow charging but you have sleep and not everyone drives every day. And if you are really lucky you can plug in at work. 6. Hydro is cheaper than diesel.

[@toronado455]

FCA diesel would worry me even more than FCA hybrid.

[@salwalker7071]

I got the high altitude 4XE a few months ago. Extremely happy with it! Great video, thank you both of you!!

[@lupehn]

How many miles does it last

[@salwalker7071]

@@lupehn I got about 800 miles on my first full tank

[@lupehn]

@@salwalker7071 wow that’s pretty amazing

[@rachelrazalan380]

Is the high altitude 4Xe hybrid?

[@salwalker7071]

@@rachelrazalan380 Plug-in Hybrid

[@dustdevl3404]

We have a Sahara 4XE and love it. Faster and more efficient than our 18 Compass Trailhawk. Great vehicle.

[@slawomir.turkiewicz]

Hi! Do you still have it? What do you think after 3 years?

[@dustdevl3404]

Yes we do and we still love it. No major issues beyond recalls. It is a great vehicle for us.

[@calvinhaug4505]

I think the 4xe is the way to go. You can still tow up to 3500 lbs with it. Also Diesel fuel is much more per litre than regular fuel. I've ordered a Sahara unlimited 4xe. And looking forward to getting it. From Ontario Canada 🇨🇦

[@largol33t1]

I never listen to people who claim the low fuel consumption helps pay for the higher cost of diesel. There's a reason why just about nobody drives a diesel CAR. The only diesels I see are all work trucks and construction vehicles. When regular unleaded fuel hits $3.50 a gallon, diesel is a whopping $4.45 or more. The higher fuel economy doesn't factor out. At best, you're only saving a few bucks over the gasoline vehicle. I urge people to NOT buy a diesel. It's too difficult to find fuel and the prices will really drain your wallet.

[@kerryspence2928]

Still love it?

[@TrevortheBatman]

Just got one of these as a rental. Curious about long term reliability, but absolutely loved everything about it. Very tempted in getting one in the future

[@LMSVLIM23]

This is my wife’s fav car and a must have in the future for us because of it. I hope that the phev versions in the future get better range and a more efficient hybrid system because I know Jeeps consumes a lot of fuel 😱 thank you for your review of this! We’ve been waiting for this one! (:

[@andreaspencer9813]

I can see why she loves it, such a fun vehicle. The range is low but if your wife is only doing short daily trips she may see a lot of benefits.

[@toronado455]

@@iamalwayswrite 🤣

[@rmcfadde1]

This is bad azz.... glad to see Chrysler reinvent themselves. Never thought I'd see an EV/hybrid jeep. Great review 👍

[@bendmacmanufacturing2744]

My 2021 4xe getting 24.7 combined so far but it been improving on gas and electric fully charged electric is 27 mi

[@ggolds5]

Placed my order for my 4xe Rubicon JLUR. Leasing for 27 months, $7500 credit so I'm using that as my down payment. I'm going to have a lower payment on this $63,000 Jeep then on my current 2019 Sahara on a 36 month lease which Im trading in early and they are still paying off the entire vehicle to put me in the 4xe that's far nicer. Can't wait until it comes in. I'm in the USA, New England and looking forward to plugging in.

[@GUIGU32]

Love my Saturday mornings breakfast watching your reviews. Put a smile on my face, great content.

[@Motormouth...]

Wow, thanks

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you so much, we appreciate your kind words!

[@jeremyh9515]

As a Chrysler master tech who works on eco diesels everyday, it's a poorly built engine. The eco diesel will not last 500k or even 300k. If it did, the cost of repairs to get there would be ridiculous.

[@paulvu8896]

But this is not an eco diesel

[@jeremyh9515]

@@paulvu8896 clearly you didn't watch the whole video so you don't understand the reference captain obvious....

[@matthewkim1758]

in your opinion what quality SUV would you buy

[@user-vw5je5qo2r]

Since you work on this vehicle's, what are your thoughts on the 2.0 turbo engine the 4xe ? I know it's a newer engine so might not have too much data on that.

[@DannyRc]

@@user-vw5je5qo2r he have no idea what he is talking about lol. Saying bad things about Ecodiesel on 4xe Video 🤣 I will not take any advice from that kind of mechanic

[@wolfprowler]

My wife and I are about to test the 4xe and EcoDiesel for a very long term test lol She just traded in her Kia Sorrento for a 2021 Jeep Rubicon 4xe and I just traded in my RAM Power Wagon for a 2021 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon with the EcoDiesel. Time will tell what will last the longest and what's most reliable. Engine wise...I'm going with the diesel. Thanks for the great video. Cheers from Ontario

[@Mr.Worf63]

I agree with Zack , you pay $55 - $75K for that Jeep I doubt many will take it off road . The diesel is the right choice for longevity . Great work you two !!

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it.

[@wny9521]

I'm not sure the added weight and complexity is not worth saving one gallon of gas a day. On top of that now our new Wrangler is locked out of electric AND HYBRID mode because its not available at this time. I've read some jeeps get locked in FORM but ours didn't. We have owned the Jeep for two weeks and charge almost every night. WE drive three miles to work and then 3 miles home in electric. At the end of that we have 38 percent battery left. We have done this for two weeks in 30 degree average temps while always in hybrid mode. WE have also done some errands at night before we charge and have 240 miles on the Wrangler. In that time we used about 1/5 of a tank of gas and the engine has been on in many situations. Now after two weeks all electric assist is turned off and not available and I mean all. The engine doesn't even shut off on decel or standing still. I can understand a system that prevent dry engine and months old gas from happening. But my gas is fresh and the engine has been on many times over the past two weeks. My insurance on the thing is much more expensive compared to our Durango. I pay 380 a month with 2000 down The down payment was trade equity. It is a cheaper way to lease a jeep and it is a nice vehicle but it is not an efficient electrical vehicle. If I get my next electric bills and it is 40 dollars higher or more Ill never plug this thing again as there will no real money savings. The Form did go off in about 20 miles and I have some suggestions. If you do many short electric trips make sure you push the electric only button. Even in the cold you do not want the Gas engine turning on for short periods without fully warming up. So In my case with a daily 6 mile commute make sure to push electric button and keep the engine from turning on. If the engine turns on and doesn't warm up the unburnt gas can dilute the engine and the Form system turns on the prevent that. Our battery does deplete very fast in the Winter. I hope the Summer brings more electric range.

[@Knightairman1]

So a bit of an issue on the charge topic you brought up. If you were to plug that Wrangler in over night in 120 outlet, it will fill most the battery back up in 9 hrs. If you want faster than that, then yes you have to have the 240 hookup. I had a Volt if you're a around town driver, a PHEV will work, plus if you're going long distance every now and then you're covered. As far long term ownership goes, yes diesel get better economy and will last half a million miles. There was a 2012 Volt named Sparky that had 425k miles on it prior to needing a costly overhaul. A Canadian company did pick it up and repair it. I think you're selling the long term ownership costs short. Diesel can be more expensive to purchase depending on where you live, and maintenance costs on a diesel when necessary are more expensive than gas. As governments move to eliminate gas and diesel engines you will see the cost of fuel rise. Take that into long term ownership.

[@nolij7765]

I can still see this selling well. Tons of people with Wranglers don't actually go offroading (or at least not until the Wrangler is 10+ years old). They buy Wranglers for the outdoorsy image. If you're mostly just driving a Wrangler to and from the shopping mall, then the plugin hybrid range should help a lot for reducing emissions and fuel costs. Lots of die hard Jeep fans don't buy new. They buy used and then modify them. So the die hard fans aren't buying new Wranglers anyways while the people who buy new Wranglers and care about image would totally buy the 4xe. Its the same story with driving enthusiasts who love manual transmissions. They only buy used cars and the people who buy new cars like automatic transmissions.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thanks for sharing. There was another comment about saying, we don't know what we are talking about because everyone who owns a G-Wagon or Wrangler goes off-roading. That is just not the case. Most buy older ones, not new ones if they are true off-road enthusiasts as you said. I know people who own G-Wagons, Wranglers and Defenders, no one goes off-roading. In fact, a girlfriend is buying a $200,000 G-Wagon because she likes the look, it has nothing to do with off-roading.

[@nolij7765]

@@andreaspencer9813 Haha yup, my in-laws just got their fully loaded Defender delivered and it's definitely not going offroading any year soon.

[@andreaspencer9813]

@@nolij7765 Thank you, this has been my experience as well. In fact, when Zack and I do take these press vehicles off-roading, there isn't one other person there with a new vehicle. In fact, they think we are nuts! lol!

[@michaelm2937]

By offering various drivetrain options Jeep will expand their fan base. Good business model. Like the RAV4 Prime, the “e” will be extremely popular with certain buyers, and may be difficult to get.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Yes, you are right, they are trying to get new people interested in a Wrangler who typically wouldn't buy them because of what comes out of the tailpipe.

[@jimbeam4111]

There’s several on the lots here in Illinois. I don’t think people looking at EV’s want a hybrid. For the cost of this thing one can buy a Rivian.

[@vicp8772]

Hi team. Beautiful review. I'm so happy there is a e version. Mainly cos more e versions are on their way. Those who buy this, use it for it's off roading conditions, not just downtown parking. Go habs go!

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it. Go Habs Go! They are doing it!

[@laurenlalo153]

Yea yea diesel it's great! And the torque I love it, but, fiat diesel, not the greatest for reliability

[@IKhanNot]

Yeah the timing chain is bad plus major issues with the DEF/DPF system.

[@firebir11]

Right, it depends on who’s manufacturing the engine as to how long it lasts.

[@sandman3881]

Do you know why it’s a 10 year fucckin warranty? Because batteries in electric vehicles last exactly 10 years then start needing replacing.. for cheaper electric vehicles than this - replacing batteries is 14k... replacing these batteries on this car... probably 30k.

[@jaybou007]

I really, really, really came "that" close to a deal for one of these. Quebec's incentives are really good for the 4XE. But hey, it's FCA, you'll have trouble with the first year of production or so. I went for the 3.6L in the end. But for my next Jeep, when this will be proven and probably updated, that's a no brainer. Very compelling proposition by Stellantis. Now, the diesel is very attractive too. But 9000 $CAN for that engine is a s*** ton of money. I don't know if it's worth it. But then again, if that little engine that could makes you smile for 10 years, that's another no brainer. Gosh, tough choice. Good news is: they're both great so you can't go wrong.

[@andreaspencer9813]

I do agree with you about the diesel engine, it is very pricey. This is less than a diesel! The engine you chose is a great one.

[@Motormouth...]

When the government buys a car for you, it makes sense but when it's your own money it doesn't. There is a whole lot wrong with the situation... Not a fan of subsidies.

[@exec1085]

very well done video by a team that is becoming better at what they do day by day - awesome - thanks for doing what you do!

[@Wrangler4XEFans]

What a great review! Great job. I am on a road trip with my 4XE and it’s doing a great job.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you very much, really glad you enjoyed it. Thanks again for sharing your Wrangler 4XE experience with us. Enjoy your road trip.

[@Wrangler4XEFans]

@@andreaspencer9813 I really appreciated your fair perspective on the diesel. As much of a fan of the 4XE as I am, we have to accept that it doesn’t make since for everyone. Like you said, it’s more advantageous to those who have short daily commutes. Those with long daily demands come out ahead with the EcoDiesel.

[@andreaspencer9813]

@@Wrangler4XEFans Thank you! Absolutely, this 4XE may not be for everyone but if it fits into your lifestyle, it's a great option. Otherwise, you can always go for the diesel, we both really enjoyed it as well.

[@bill3117]

Love that blue stitching! I wish my 2021 Jeep Cherokee had that look! Great videos in your series. I watch them even though I've got 3 years left on my lease.

[@foreverLSU88]

People don't talk about DEF refill every 2,500 miles and the more expensive oil changes. In some areas diesel is more expensive than gas.

[@betweenthepines4000]

Here we are Zack and Andrea, March 2022 at $2.04/L for 87, $2.16/L for diesel and $2.25/L for 91. The 4xe will now become a hot commodity.

[@coreyking5135]

These are pretty bad ass, I had one as a rental in Northern CA (The Willy Addition) and I beat the crap out of it off-road and it did amazing, I mean I pushed it to it's max and it killed it, the only thing about these is cheap interior, lack of storage and for 99% of people there is no need for locking differentials. They drive amazing off-road and on road, I was not a Jeep fan but I was thoroughly impressed and the funny side, they will smoke a Ford Raptor, the factory 0-60 is way off.

[@bornagainbear]

Lot of misinformation here about the pricing. The 4xe is definitely currently limited to people who are already looking at high trim wranglers. If you're not in the market for a sahara/rubicon/high altitude, don't start looking at the 4xe until the tax credit phases out and they start offering it as a standard engine option. But the car starts at 47/51/53kUSD because it comes standard with a ton of optional equipment. The trims come with different options, but the Rubicon for example comes with premium lights, premium audio, and the heavy duty xfer case. If you get the diesel and put all the features on it that the 4xe has, you're paying more for the diesel. Seriously. Just go select a rubicon and build it out. Diesel+alpine audio+lights brings the car to 53900, or 395$ more than the 4xe rubicon. And then all options from that point on are the same price. Not sure about Canadian tax breaks, but the US has a 7500$ PHEV credit. That means to compare a rubicon 4xe and a rubicon ecodiesel, you're looking at a savings of 7895$ to buy the 4xe instead. On top of that, the Diesel can't touch the HP/torque of the 4xe. And the diesel is also a weighty upgrade, very close to the overall weight of the 4xe. The diesel isn't a bad pick, but they are built for different things. The 4xe is great for city commuting and short trips. The more city driving you do, the more battery you'll recharge and the higher your fuel efficiency. The diesel is the opposite in that it does better with long trips and in fact needs some warm up time and long distance trips to keep it running at peak efficiency. And you're wrong about the fuel efficiency thing in this specific case, depending on where you're from and your options for getting power. In my state I have free nights/weekends and cheap power overall, but I can also pick my provider and that means I can choose to get my power from renewable sources while also charging it for free. So while I may get an average of 20-24mpg when the battery is depleted, that's 22mi (which some are reporting as much as 30mi based on driving habits/route/weather) a day that is not emitting anything into the atmosphere. If you want to argue from the emissions stand point, comparing the MPG of a PHEV is silly. You'd instead look at the consumption of fuel, where 4xe owners are getting as much as 900miles per tank.

[@daisyacevedo3807]

I bought a 4xe and my commute is 180 miles 😭 I guess I mest up

[@migy5031]

Hi Zack and Andrea! You both make compelling arguments, so the jury is still out. I am worried about long term resale value since that dominates the ultimate cost of ownership.

[@JamaicanMeCrazy]

Get it used you'll get a great deal. Buy it new.. Oh boy. In a few years you better know depreciation is gonna hit you on the chin

[@romeolongoria8730]

It’s still a jeep. You shouldn’t lose your shirt that bad if you have $70K just lying around.

[@limpunsing224]

The complexities of this offering are not appealing especially coming from FCA Good review, though

[@rich7447]

This vehicle makes more sense in the US since we get a 7,500 tax credit on it. You get a lot of equipment that is optional on a gas Rubicon as standard equipment on a 4xe Rubicon. Once the tax credit is taken into account you are close to the same price, but have the upgraded lighting group, upgraded uConnect, a Alpine stereo system and a few other expensive options for about the same price. After tax credit out '22 4xe Rubicon was $55,500 ($63k - $7500). That's still pretty steep considering my 2011 Ram 2500 Big Horn CC 4x4 Cummins was $42k new including taxes, tags and title.

[@Arcticarc1]

Even though I would like to own one so much, I would be worried about its reliability, the phev Pacifica wasn’t good in that regard.

[@andreaspencer9813]

I'm sorry to hear that about the Pacifica. What sort of problems did you have?

[@trevinated]

Just a few points to keep in mind, and no, not hating on Zack. Even driving with depleted battery in hybrid mode, your fuel economy is still better than my 3.6l Rubicon When driving the typical commuter range, you can go for weeks without needing gas, and you still have all that torque & HP! The money you save daily in Electric mode, more than makes up for range/costs on those long trips where you can't drive just in Electric. Plus, it still gets better mileage than the 3.6L Rubicon. You'd be surprised, tons of people ARE buying the $70k Rubicon and off-roading, (that would include me), so I don't think you point about people spending the money and not wheeling is accurate, only partially. The Jeep Eco Diesel is great for that mileage if you're daily commute is longer than 60-100k a day. The Jeep Eco-Diesel has many more issues than you'd think when it comes to taking advantage of that torque. if you drive it under heavy load or towing with it. It's notorious for "derating" when towing or when it get's hot. Not much fun only going 40-50 kph while all the Gas and PHEV Jeeps blow by you on the Coq. Top that off with the added more expensive maintenance, constant DEF refills, and not really being able to take advantage of the EcoDiesel power as expected, it can make for a frustrating experience. If you're in the category of using it like a truck and under those conditions. It may not happen to everyone, but it happens to enough to steer me away. Your Diesel fuel economy point is valid, but only if your daily driving is a long haul, & not the typical Daily commute here in the lower mainland. If you're driving that thing long range every day, then yeah, I agree, way better range and fuel economy. We have a PHEV, and drove 2500KM before having to put any gas in. You can't and wont do that in a diesel, and with our daily driving range being on average the same over the last 10 years, I guarantee your carbon footprint argument for the diesel is way off in comparison too. That is if we're gong to compare apples to apples. Technically, if you're driving a PHEV, your carbon foot print is much smaller than a full EV just to produce, and it meets that reduced carbon footprint much faster, and going to be much lower than the diesel or gas over the range of it's life. If we're going to talk carbon footprint, we need to include the footprint to produce it, to fuel it (i.e. sources of fuel or electric), and to drive it. The biggest part comes from the production, not just when diving it of the lot. Regardless, I've driven all of the Jeep powertrains, except the 392, they're all pretty fun. I found it very hard to pass on the Eco-Diesel, as I really did like how it drove when testing it. I actually really liked it.

[@romeolongoria8730]

I don’t see a lot of half a million mile eco diesel dodge trucks driving around. Very confident statement there.

[@boricua4052]

Excellent review as always.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you!

[@octoberone71]

Zack and andrea. Thanks again. Agree Diesel is better. Just gas and diesel price are crazy in Vancouver

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you for watching!

[@boricua4052]

Interesting vehicle. Is it worth it? I think the diesel is a better choice. Thoughts?

[@andreaspencer9813]

It really depends on your lifestyle. You can see a lot of benefits with a PHEV if you do short daily trips and are committed to plugging in.

[@lindaspins]

The HP and torque plus the hybrid features make the 4xe my choice, for sure. Exactly what I want in a Jeep.

[@rich7447]

The eco diesel engine weighs 505 lbs dry which makes the Wrangler even more front heavy. The 4xe is heavier, but the bulk of that added weight is further back which actually helps with weight distribution.

[@SuperEtab]

I love these, but live in the city with lots of traffic. I have been in a bad car accident so always look at crash tests. The Wrangler is one of the worst preforming on crash tests.

[@10OF9OFBORG]

Nice Jeep and great video Andrea! 👍🏻👊🏻

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you so much!

[@capitaldd3693]

These crazy prices, have to stop. It's just getting silly ridiculous. How is the average guy/gal supposed to afford one of these things....? The companies need to drop the prices, and I mean a fair bit... great review guys

[@StevenLNew]

Diesels are actually cleaner than most gas vehicles now a days. You have DEF that burns with the emissions which cleans what comes out of the exhaust. The Nissan Titian ( which has a Cummins V8 Diesel ) put out almost 0 ( yes zero ) emissions. People have the wrong idea about the newer Diesels.

[@aggiewoodie]

4xE makes more sense in the US. Our diesel fuel cost is quite a bit higher than petrol, making even similar fuel economy significantly more expensive than with the diesel.

[@robsolf]

Right now, a replacement battery would be $5500. 10 years from now when it needs to be replaced, there will very likely be an aftermarket selling better, higher capacity batteries for cheaper.

[@MG-jv7pe]

Will you be reviewing the Grand Cherokee 4xe soon?

[@Stacey_Chenell]

Any negatives to buying this used at $40k with 22k miles?

[@mars353]

This in for the off-pavement experience of the Whole Foods shopper who occasionally puts the rear right wheel on the curb while parallel parking and leaves it like that.

[@davidconroy5683]

Looks good but let’s be clear the foot print of this vehicle is not zero. When it’s charging you are using generated power from where? ( coal etc) Also what happens to batteries when dead ?

[@sumeeet2111]

That is the review i was looking for. Thanks

[@TheHonarable1]

Love the honesty and I'd go with a diesel.

[@AStanton1966]

The 4XE's have 3 cooling systems. What can possibly go wrong?

[@hedyeheskandarinasab3691]

Hi, thank you:) please make a video with hard top and soft top I still can't decide which on I should go!

[@zippy_the_greek6402]

Also depends if you're leasing/financing. Diesel's have been discontinued and also - the ecodiesel by chrysler was a god-awful engine. The 4xe is a good buy, especially with the government rebates and large residual value for monthly lease rates.

[@mikemcgugan3977]

I love my 4xe but... living in Canada below -10 2-3 months of the year FYI.. battery will not work. Message says "electric not available at this time". Doesn't bother me too much but figured i would share.

[@DARisse-ji1yw]

just got my FCA recall notice on my Wrangler 4xe. "Rolled Seal" possible on a high voltage line.......

[@yahoo4419]

Do y’all show the leg room? Thinking of getting one for a family of 4, but we have tall kids.

[@greggb681]

FANTASTIC review!!

[@A3A4Tom]

Another great review. Given the price and longevity, diesel all the way. Toyota's hybrid battery is able to last 700000+km before replacing it at about around $6-7k. That's with the popularity and reliability of Toyota's hybrid. Given FCA's iffy reliability record, I am not sure whether Jeep's system has the proven reliability of any Toyota.

[@Motormouth...]

Time will tell

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you so much, glad you liked it.

[@sandman3881]

@@Motormouth... time won’t tell.. electric vehicles need batteries replaced after 10 years. That’s over 14k for cheap vehicles. A battery replacement on this can easily exceed 25k.. that’s why they offer a 10yr battery warranty. They know exactly how to play the game. In europe however they forcing us into this trash - because we pay 2k a year on road tax on diesel and petrol on big cars. Expect inflated road tax to come to USA soon also - with their green bullshit so they can sell this.

[@rich7447]

The ecodiesel does not have the durability of the typical North American diesels and EPA emissions equipment has even reduced the durability of those engines.

[@colingoldthorpe5918]

I always wanted one for years. Then when I was in Louisiana with work, they rented me one to go back to the Houston Airport. It was the 2.0 turbo which I found lacking power, the worst part was the handling on the highway. I thought it was terrible, it wandered all over the road and my back was killing me when I got to the airport. I was extremely disappointed in it 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️, the pricing is just ridiculous for these now just like most other new vehicles. I will keep my money in the bank 🏦 and drive around my older cars with low mileage. Great review as always guys 👍👍👍👍👍

[@capitaldd3693]

Sounds about right. A 2liter shouldn't be in a jeep, even a turbo. The prices of new cars needs the overhaul - they are getting absolutely crazy. My97 TJ still works....and yes it's underpowered with a 2.4 engine ....lol

[@ItchyFeetOz]

7:30 mine only has 70kms on it, and yes I got it for off-roading. It's a 4x4 .... why else would you buy one for?

[@gareman9417]

I've upgraded the lift to an AEV dual sport 2.5" (more like 3 1/4") Funny how the male host says we wouldn't go off roading in this Jeep, my 2022 Rubi I had it for 48 hours right from the factory went off roading in british columbia mountain service roads. Love my Jeep.

[@trevorhowell6575]

I would go 4xe just because of the numbers, HP and torque numbers that is...but ditch it before the warranty is up, for a 392, or a new improved 4xe. Better yet a 392xe

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thanks for sharing!

[@sandman3881]

Yep.. because you will need 30k to replace these batteries on this vehicle after 10yrs.. electric gimmicks.

[@hinglawrencelau5045]

does it have a better steering compare to a normal 4x4？

[@padyyiustanding]

Love your KZbin videos best couple in Canada.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you very much for the kinds words.

[@robertcurry6413]

Could you mention the reliability according to consumer reports? And the iis institute crash test ratings?

[@jimmythefish]

A fishing buddy of mine had a diesel Land Cruiser and it was hell being at the back with the engine on and diesel fumes. No thanks. With this I can commute on electric only and still have range if I need it. I live in Victoria so my electric is all hydro and you can plug in a lot of places without charge.

[@bcluett1697]

Having a battery inside the passenger compartment gives me pause, like what happens if you get crashed into on the right side? I don't like the idea of a battery fire starting or the thing even heating up under load when it gets older. I know it's not just Jeep trying this design out lately it seems to be a trend but I'd prefer the electrics on the other side of a firewall to add to my chance to evacuate a vehicle fire.

[@Motormouth...]

Toyota's batteries are all inside.

[@suzimanipur2983]

I'm buying it🌹🙌

[@Gman450a1]

The e-range is kind of low and the price is high! I'd stick with the Rav4 or upcoming Hyundai products since I'm not an off road type. Thanks for the review!

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thanks for watching! I am not sure people use these brand new vehicles for off-roading. Wouldn't you buy an older one and take that one off-roading? Good news, the resale value is excellent on these.

[@jenksvh1]

Curious if Zack has updated his cost / return comparisons with the latest huge cost of diesel ?

[@042452]

I want a new Grand Cherokee with the Diesel but not offered sadly

[@marsbougie]

It very interesting. Wish it had at least 50km range

[@DonFather]

When I lived in BC, I remembered a TON of encouragement from the power generation company for people to use LESS electricity. That was BEFORE smart phones, tablets, laptops and EVs. I don't know where all that extra electricity is coming from now. Will they need to build a dirty power plant soon because of all this demand?

[@Motormouth...]

Look up the new Site C dam that is being built, enough power for many decades to come.

[@odisy64]

Why use less power? BC has no problem generating it and you end up using less energy in total because batteries are 3x more efficient than diesel engines. Burning gasoline to power a generator is actually more efficient than just putting that gas in a car.

[@vincenttamesis1]

Always enjoy your videos. Very informative. Quick question, are there enough charging stations in Vancouver for the Jeep itself? What if we are going to Whistler or Kelowna?

[@alanrihm]

Clarification. I just purchased a 4xe Sahara, and had it totally customized. There ARE LIMITS to after market mods currently. Specifically, I could not get the light bar installed that I ordered due to where the charge plug is located on the 4xe. Ok, Just wanted viewers to know.

[@sandman3881]

Do you know why it’s a 10 year battery warranty? Because batteries in electric vehicles last exactly 10 years then start needing replacing.. for cheaper electric vehicles than this - replacing batteries is 14k... replacing these batteries on this car... probably 30k.just letting you know.. gameplan - sell it after some use, before the battery expires. People still haven’t caught on to the electric gimmick.

[@rich7447]

@@sandman3881 Current replacement cost for EV batteries averages $137 us per kWh. The Wrangler 4xe has a 17.3 kWh battery. That works out to around $2,400, not $30k.

[@JeminiYT]

Why is the Jeep (Sahara) 4Xe only qualified for $1500 tax incentive in BC, while Rav4 Prime gets $6500? Is it because of the battery size, or the base price? Thanks!

[@borinvlogs]

you guys look fabulous and this car suits you both.

[@elvisisalive2716]

is it weird when you kiss someone's butthole and they don't respond?

[@tomdrummy4984]

$74k for that…….that’s hysterical 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mowcowbell]

I sure see a lot of Jeep Rubicons in my area that look like they've never seen a dirt road, let alone done any off-roading. Not sure why folks buy these vehicles.... they're uncomfortable, have terrible driving dynamics, high interior noise levels, and they're very inefficient.

[@Motormouth...]

Agree, same with pickup trucks.

[@gs98999]

Can be said for any vehicle out there. What makes no sense to one person makes perfect sense to others. This is still the only fully convertible suv on the market with 5 engine options. It’s only sort of competition is the 4runner at this time and Maybe the new defender.

[@espkh1549]

Cuz it’s pretty inexpensive ? It’s around 70K. Way cheaper than my other cars. I bought it as a big toy.

[@dustdevl3404]

Because they are fun. It is not necessarily a rational purchase.

[@stevetate1580]

Why tf are you watching? Why do you care what people buy them for? If you're not making the payments who cares.

[@savanp228]

One of the best car review channel. Subscribed. I am going from driving something like Lexus RX SUV and Benz E450 coupe and really looking to make change to Wrangler. Live in Wisconsin winter and have short commute to work - with so many different Trims - which one is best for regular on road comfy ride? Not planning to do any off road!!!

[@Motormouth...]

Hi it's Andrea, thank you so much, glad you subscribed. Welcome aboard!

[@orangecookie3132]

For that battery question does it have liquid cooling or is like Nissan leaf with passive cooling. If has liquid cooling than it should last 20 years I'm guessing cause we still don't have enough info on the battery since Tesla battery still new but it looks like it can last 20 years before battery degreation. If it is passive cooling that 8 years. There more factors to this aswell battery don't like heat if u live hot climate that reduces life of the battery and if u fast charge your battery or u let battery go to zero charge.

[@user-xc4eh4kp9n]

Hello Mr./ Mrs., I'm persuming you also earned a federal rebate for purchasing 4xE car? Did you have to install an electrical charger at home to qualify or other requirements to for fill the rebate?

[@magellanmax]

How long does it take to charge this single motor? If it doesn't take that long then there's no need for fast charging. But since the global trend is going full electric in the future, lets hope the fast charging feature becomes standard otherwise no one without a garage at home to charge it won't even consider an EV when car shopping.

[@capitaldd3693]

Zack, ya sold me on the diesel......👍

[@Rob_Townships]

Good video Andrea and Zack!

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you!

[@hungryjimbo]

Does hybrid mean higher maintenance costs?

[@westcoast708]

good review guys I'll stick too my 4runner.

[@Motormouth...]

Great truck

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you! The 4Runner has great resale value!

[@toronado455]

Toyota should make a PHEV 4Runner!

[@nickolastiguan]

5:38 regarding where the fuel is coming from, in relation to pollution. I remember watching a video from Engineering Explained, according to Jason, and the studies he’d quoted. Even if the electricity comes from coal (worst case scenario), Petrol and diesel were produced and transported as clean as possible, (Full) EV will be cleaner than fossil fuel powered vehicles, because EVs are so much more efficient. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Motormouth...]

But this isn't a pure EV and off range the fuel economy isn't great

[@nickolastiguan]

@@Motormouth... In this case, I think unless you keep it charged all the time, like that guy who follows Andrea, it probably don’t make a lot of sense, true.

[@andreaspencer9813]

@@nickolastiguan You are right, it doesn't make any sense unless you keep it charged and you mostly drive short trips. If we had the proper set up, a garage with a charger, I can see my daily drive being very clean.

[@Island606]

You got a new subscriber 👍🏻

[@Motormouth...]

Awesome

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you!