2021 MG5 70k Update And First Fault

[@ronrubble]

I get a lot of value from these mg5 updates. There aren't many people producing similar content and it is really reassuring to see how well it is holding up. I'm 10k miles into my 2021 mg5 and I still think think it is a fantastic car for the money

[@shahanari316ari5]

Hey i want to get one But they say it doesn't last long is it true?

[@MrEV]

What a car. I'm so happy to see a few of these driving around Canterbury now as taxis.

[@computerbob06]

Probably the most perfect taxi car out there!?

[@andrewallen9918]

Yup, I was in Oxford Street earlier this year and the facelift version was being used as a taxi; not surprising as there are very few EV estates out there at the moment (well, only this and the Taycan!). Many more planned over the next 2 years; well overdue!

[@davidthornton3346]

My 2021 MG5 LR has just passed 15k miles. Had no issues with it at all. My first service last November had the battery at a 100% SOH still

[@Olivarus238]

I love these updates on 'my' car, especially from the guy who convinced me to buy one 😉 I've a way to go in mileage yet, but it's a great car and every time I watch reviews of other cars (I watch a lot 🙄) I still find that the MG5 is better in what to me, are the key areas. Size, comfort and BUTTONS rather than switches buried in the infotainment screen! 👍

[@johnlaws5231]

Great video James as usual but where will I get a new MG 5 for15k?

[@davidspencer7254]

Not enough going wrong for KZbin, but what a great advert for MG

[@williamarmstrong7199]

My MG5 std range 27 month old 96500 mile has just had it's 1st real fault.. my heated seat has stopped working! Lol fix that before next winter. It is in use as a Taxi. 3 drivers so it gets hammered.

[@avidviewer1]

Very interesting video. I'm still loving the LR your channel inspired to buy last year. So, thanks for *all* the videos, and the car (best I've ever owned)!

[@judebrown4103]

Thanks for the update James, it certainly is doing you proud.👍

[@dcvariousvids8082]

Cracking car when looked after properly. Thank you.

[@alslad]

Another helpful video thanks. Lots of dinged front grilles for sale that would have retrievable door and catch to fit individually to your own. Think if I get an MG5 will buy one in as spare. Not sure if the magnet option would work?

[@squarewheelsorguk]

Thank you for this very helpful update. Can you (or anyone) tell us anything about the conversion -- particularly, if you remove the bench-seat cushion, would the rear seats then fold flat?

[@ObiePaddles]

First time I’ve heard the term Groovy being good when it come to brake discs…

[@Jamesandkate]

I did think that when I watched it back 😅

[@bertie6358]

Great to hear the longevity aspect. I’m as pleased as punch with my 5 Trophy and as I’m getting a bit long in the tooth I fully intend to get to those sorts of mileages and beyond with it.

[@michaelkember8102]

Glad to see the cars are going well James. Maybe a bit of black gaffer tape would improve the look 👍

[@EverydayLife621]

Fantastic results for a 70,000 mile workhorse - I've just changed to an MG4 (partly on your 50k review on the battery degredation), I assume that just like all previous cars that I've had - the local dealer has a parts department? - who can give you a part number / provide that new catch?

[@greengecko1876]

Interesting the visually same lock on the charge port of our Kona failed. (Locked shut). Hyundai replaced under warranty.

[@bindsloa138]

Just a quick ask, how is the traction battery health at this mileage. Thanks and good useful update video

[@Jamesandkate]

Last check was over 96% SOH. We’ll check it again at 100k 👍🏻

[@bindsloa138]

Thanks for that 👍🏻

[@CreRay]

Excellent update! I'm disappointed that the charge port door is not covered under warranty, I do not understand how it isn't covered considering the car is just 18 months old. That makes the 7 year warranty seem a bit pointless. When you say 15 grand, surely you mean a second hand one right? Great to see that you practice what you preach and only use EV's as work vans!

[@itchywitchy]

I have read a lot of posts by armchair experts about how MGs aren't well made and will fall apart after 20k miles so it's good to see a car that is getting a battering in the real world and still working as it should be.

[@talkingdriveruk]

Great to see that this MG5 is doing well. My real world review of my 28K 20month old MG5 wouldn’t far so well. Boot lock - replaced, Boot struts - replaced, cap on rear wipe - replaced, need another one as that’s broken off. Drivers seat cover, leather cracking (not under warranty now, £160 replacement). Front drivers wiper - corrosion (being replaced) DAB radio disconnected - Being replaced. I’ll sure that the front charger cap will go soon, I’m starting to have trouble closing that. And I’m had loads of issues getting rapid chargers going. Had 3 occasions in hot weather when the charger has failed and it’s caused a H/V fault. MG hasn’t been able to get to the bottom of that as it clears after 20 minutes. The issues are with the car. Been advised by 3 different charging companies to open the charger flap, lock the car, prepare the charger for the charge (contactless/charger card/app) then when ready, unlock car and connect. Works every time now using this method. Find that in cold weather it’s slow to charger on rapid chargers (yes I know cold weather effects charging speed, but other vehicles seem faster on chargers next to me in the same weather) I love the way it drives and like the concept of EV’s but this is the most troublesome vehicle I’ve ever owned. In addition the dealer isn’t very good near me and the warranty is lacking in places. I’ll not be getting another one sadly. Yes prices are great but can’t handle the issues and the thought that at any moment it will fail big style on me. Got my eye on an MG4, but…. With the issues I’ve had with the 5 - not so sure now….

[@jay-uo2bi]

@@talkingdriveruk Ouch, I'd be frustrated if that wasn't all covered under warranty although I struggle to believe the leather is cracking so early under normal usage/care. Maybe time for a Ora cat or Atto 3 next haha. In Australia, SAIC (mg, ldv and others) cars have a somewhat poor reputation however GWM seem to be decent. BYD is quite new and niche (although MASSIVE sales) so time will tell. Not sure if it's available where you are but the Atto 3 is quite a good car, though so is the MG4 on paper.

[@computerbob06]

@@talkingdriveruk Just wondering if the slow charge when cold is because your battery is cold - the others might have battery preconditioning or just warm batteries. If you haven't got the ability to warm the battery before charging you can stress it a bit to warm it up first. A few miles before the charger (if you can and safe to) do some hard acceleration and Regen braking a few times over to warm the battery up. Also what charge level are you starting off with - the lower the better.

[@Timstravels01]

Great video and it’s very reassuring to see how well the MG5 is holding up. I’m absolutely chuffed with mine.

[@TheMisterB2u]

Great video,the door handles are extremely light plastic,so surprised they haven't broken!

[@trevorsbarkingmadchannel4501]

Still very tempting. What was the battery SOH James ? Great update. Best wishes.

[@Jamesandkate]

96% last time we checked.

[@campbellframe6713]

Great video advice I got mine in February 21 plate 52klw for £18000 I a good for the 61 klw they only offer £11'000?

[@chrishyde1216]

Needed a car with 750 kg towing capability, long range and reliable chargers so inevitably a Tesla Model 3 LR. Without the towing requirement, an MG5 would have been a strong contender. I tried the refreshed MG5 and was impressed.

[@Jock55]

You should try a Kia EV6. It has 1600 kilos of towing capacity

[@kennethsmyth]

Same for model y

[@chrishyde1216]

@@Jock55 Lacks Tesla efficiency, range, performance and superchargers (at least for now). The Model Y will also tow 1600kg. I prefer the more compact Model 3.

[@chrishyde1216]

@@kennethsmyth Yes true, though I prefer the M3 and it has better range.

[@jhdudleydudley3871]

I have one of these and get better range than my model3

[@AliWade1971]

Fantastic. If I needed a bigger car with more range, I wouldn’t hesitate in getting an MG5 (drive a Smart EQ at the moment).

[@jay-uo2bi]

Wow, 70,000 miles in 18 months, that's as much as my 18 year old Jazz haha. Also how is the charge door not covered under warranty? Not as if it would be expensive for MG to fix it for you. I've never heard of warrant not covering something mechanical like that, only things like wearing materials.

[@Jamesandkate]

Tbh, this is equivalent to 10 years use so we’re not overly fussed about it. I’m glad it’s just a simple bit of plastic 👍🏻

[@talkingdriveruk]

There is a lot of things not covered after 12month, 2 years or 3 years. After 3 years then only thing that’s covered is the EV battery and anti-perforation. Who knew that the leather cracking on the drivers seat at 20 months and 28k miles is not covered under warranty! Had loads of issues with my one… see another post I’ve added in the comments.

[@jay-uo2bi]

@@talkingdriveruk But do they advertise it as an 7 year warranty or something? afaik there's nothing like that in Australia. ACCC would not take kindly to that not being made clear/advertised as a 7 year warranty or whatever, it's misleading. Is a 'decaying' warranty common in the UK, or is this new/specific to MG?

[@tonycarter6409]

What's the back seat space like with the MG5, two teenage girls of 5foot 8 & 10 inch respectively to accoomodate - had some opinions that it's a bit tight... hope not.

[@chrisrugg1]

Hi I’m enjoying your videos mate! Have you ever had the rapid charger faults iv been hearing about? Some peoples car shutting down after trying to charge at rapid/ fast charger. Thanks

[@DannyThompson54]

A great update James, thanks for keeping these going. As a functioning works vehicle I think you have managed to wholly qualify the MG5 as truly worthy. Have you a feel for its fuelling costs versus anything else ICE? Clearly servicing and maintenance are minimal, even if you're doing the work yourselves. I think you're right with that Charge Port Door. If it were mine I'd have epoxied a couple of neodymiums on it right away.

[@lookoutleo]

I think one of these would be a good upgrade to my leaf , I don't mind high millage so will look for one with nearly 100k miles , wonder what sort price would get one at

[@esm7708]

I've just got a new shape MGZS and I'm planning on running to similar miles. Not my first choice but I do a lot of miles.

[@ste8798]

I’m a Uber driver and I’ve got a 67 plate Kia Niro phev, I’m not a fan of Kia 6 speed gearbox in the Niro really clunky. Hopefully getting mg5 in near future.

[@Jamesandkate]

Go for it, they’re ace. We look after loads of Uber MG5s we have one customer over 100k in the SR model 👍🏻

[@alibro7512]

Great update and your videos encouraged me to go and look at an MG5 so very soon I will be replacing my ageing C Class estate with a 2021 or 2022 model. One thing I think you should maybe consider is changing brake pads (for all your customers) after a maybe 9 or 10 years regardless of wear. I have seen two cars recently were the friction material fell off the pad due to corrosion leaving the driver with a very dangerous moment of zero brakes until the caliper closed the metal to metal. Of course after the moment of panic the brakes were now severely compromised until they were replaced. Just a thought but keep up the great work.

[@AlanHRussell]

Could you do a video tutorial on how to make a DIY frunk/froot like yours?

[@cabinzadmin6022]

great vid as usual. Can you tow with it ? and what weight of trailer , braked & unbraked

[@jeffg9706]

Good video but would like to know the condition of the battery after 71000.

[@thomasbroker69]

James I’ve got a year old MG5 & keep getting “Lane keep assist system quit” & MG Pilot quit”. When cruise is on, any suggestions?

[@dalroth10]

Another excellent video and the way your MG5 is performing in real world, high mileage driving conditions whilst fully loaded with equipment is very impressive. The tyre wear is extraordinarily good and testament to good driving habits I reckon. I don't think many cars achieve tyre life of 44,000 miles but certainly rotating corner to corner will help. I look forward to seeing further updates in due course.

[@thevideoark]

Thanks for the update James.

[@mdsymonds75]

Just spotted you in Swaffham, Norfolk!!

[@Jamesandkate]

Not me, another one of our guys.

[@briangriffiths1285]

I took a punt on the first batch of MG ZS EVs, still have it and it has just had its first MOT. Now I don't do the mileage that you do so I am pleased that you report on the longevity. A taxi driver with a ZS EV said at close on 70k miles the rear door seal was worn from passengers getting in and out! If that is that sort of issues that we face we have backed a winner. I too was looking at at an MG5 to replace a 10 year old Passat Estate, as you say they aren't expensive. The bet is will the short range battery last better than the long range. The chemistry of the short range is the same as in domestic battery systems and is supposed to be good for 10,000 cycles! In my 2019/20 ZS even with the 40 kW battery a 300 mile journey isn't a chore though the speed of charge is rarely exciting.

[@thomasbroker69]

Why don’t you open up the locking mechanism, probably a bit of gunk stopping the locking mechanism..great review.

[@arod9998]

We just got two of these MG5’s to replace our 2 diesel vans, we do about 80,000 miles a year as they are used 365 24/7. Be interesting to see how they get on once they are over 100k. Our diesel vans always had problems after they went over 100k. So far I have been really impressed with these vehicles. Though never got any faster than a 60 kWh charging speed so far 😢. One is on about 32k and the other on 23k so still quite far behind you on miles but we will eventually overtake you 😅 we are only rapid charging these as we have no slow charging at our office. I want to see how that affects range over time as I hear continuous rapid charging isn’t good. We rapid charges ours about 3 times a day as we use these on days and night shifts they are always on the move.

[@Jamesandkate]

Interesting. What are they used as? Any links? Try the battery heater for faster charging, about 20 mins before hitting a decent charger. Rapid charging is fine, it’s protects the battery well and ramps down accordingly.

[@andrewallen9918]

If your max rate has only been 60kW then that won’t massively impact the battery (1C) as long as it usually abides by the 80/20 rule. Obviously more detrimental than overnight charging but you don’t have that option.

[@مرحبابك-ض1ن]

Hey id love to hear how it's goinf

[@potter2702]

Great video of a great car, did you ever get an MG4?

[@mikedbjones]

Great videos, thanks very much, I'm a recent MG4 owner so they're very helpful. Would you mind saying which mirror dash cam set you got and whether you'd recommend? Looks great.

[@thomasbroker69]

I’d love to know this too..

[@Nonetoochuffed]

Another excellent video. When you move the wheels from the front to the back, does that mess up the tyre pressure sensors? Do you have to reprogram them? I am just about to change from Winter to Summer wheels on my MG 5 EV and the garage wasn't too sure what was involved when changing the wheels/tyres.

[@Jamesandkate]

No issues. Simply write the original position on the inside of the rim for future reference

[@pottacoola]

The long range 15k brand new??? Can you tell me the dealer because ill get one right away! Also has the range changed can you still get 200 miles of a charge after 70k miles?

[@kash748]

He means a used one..

[@Jamesandkate]

A used one with relatively low mileage

[@kash748]

Great value

[@Jamesandkate]

Also, range hasn’t changed at all. Only weather affects it. Lowest is 180 in Baltic conditions, 250 if you’re gentle in the hight of summer 👍🏻

[@anthonyfoley3377]

James a great review as usual from a Taxi stand point would you recommend the mg 5 long range refresh or the mg ZS long range refresh thank you and good luck with your business and keep up the good work

[@Jamesandkate]

MG5 for the range

[@rikm12]

James, Can you add a link to the tyres you recommend 🙂

[@Jamesandkate]

I couldn’t add one but a Google search will bring it up 👍🏻

[@Brian-om2hh]

Davanti. You can get them almost everywhere now.....

[@rikm12]

@@Brian-om2hh thanks

[@robwoodphotos]

Love your thorough practical and helpful videos great work. Can I ask do you think the new facelifted MG5 is better than the top long range previous version?

[@Jamesandkate]

Ask me in a month, it's working atm, but with another technician.

[@OraEtLabora0]

2:27 bottle of interior-APC with Lidl/Aldi microfibre cloth, wiped once a week, should keep it fresher for longer... 🤷‍♂

[@ashb8572]

I was looking forward to your next video, enjoying your content as always 😊 - Ash from P'boro

[@peterurquhart7191]

Thank you for the great video 👍 James are you doing a update on the mg4 ?

[@Jamesandkate]

Kate has done a week video with in one. It’s being edited now 👍🏻

[@williamthomas5223]

i have a spare charger port lock off my old mg5 if you want it i had to replace the full port and cover due too damage

[@Jamesandkate]

That would be awesome. If you pop me an email to [e-mail] with your bank details and how much you want plus postage I’ll happily take it off you. Unless of course we can collect when in our travels??

[@williamthomas5223]

@@Jamesandkate it ok you can have it i just put it in the shed just in case lol I have a zs now so it’s no use to me

[@williamthomas5223]

@@Jamesandkate if you passing durham you could collect it or I don’t mind popping it in the post

[@williamthomas5223]

@@Jamesandkate did you get my email?

[@jeffcartwright7270]

James - When you receive the charging port actuator lock from William T. Any chance you could shot a video of you replacing it please ?. Cheers - Jeff.

[@trickshotish]

Sorry to bother you people . I just bought a Mg5 trophy and noticed I cannot get the tyres to match if I was to get a puncture. Very annoying looks like I will have to buy 4 new tyres when the time comes if I want them all matching . Madness . Love these videos by the way .❤

[@Jamesandkate]

Hi. So long as the tyre sizes are the same with the correct load rating you can fit anything you prefer.

[@trickshotish]

Many thanks . Very annoying if one tyre gets damaged I have to change all 4 being that no one stocks the tyres they come with the car . You would think kwick fit Halfords would stock them but no . Thanks for your reply and videos 😂

[@mjmherts]

Nice one James

[@tommyk3978]

What stopped you getting the e deliver 3 van?

[@petersimms4982]

Srapping my bmw 5 series dead at 43000 miles , broken timing chain! Buying one of these beauties 😊

[@Jamesandkate]

43k 😒

[@rjb1970]

If you're worried about MOT I'm sure you can get it done earlier if you want to. Just because you don't have to doesn't mean you can't. I think taxis have to get tested after a year now because of the mileage.

[@computerbob06]

Love the Divanti's on my Golf! Initially just the rears but was impressed by them enough to put them on the fronts! Nice price as well and as far as I know, an Italian sounding name for a British company with product made in China! Interesting James mentions prices. Next car will be either a Golf (PHEV or BEV) or Ioniq (28/38kwh), but prices all around really dropping now - thanks Elon (but also the rubbish UK public network, as people now have charger anxiety) and are ditching their EV's somewhat! The leased EV's are starting to come through now, so Kona's are available for £17k, E-Niro's for £19k, 40kwh Leaf's for £12k etc!

[@turbokadett]

A Mk2 Ioniq will have double the range and double the accesories of a BEV Golf. I considered a Golf but the badge premium for what is, these days, a short range EV was a big turn off.

[@computerbob06]

@@turbokadett Yeah it's a tricky decision to make. If the public network had 100kw chargers as its base and most of them worked all the time (with 5 or more to choose from at each location) I'd go for the 28kwh Ioniq - slightly cheaper but mostly due to its faster charge rate! I like the 38kwh but it's bigger battery at a slower charge rate and there's some talk of its coolant getting problems with glooping up, puts it into 2nd place (for now) - there's videos explaining the coolant loop and possible reasons for this! (Maybe James could cover it?) Unfortunately my life has lots of obstructions as to what car I can get. We're a one car family that can only charge at home with the cable running across a path and into the road - where the car may not be directly outside. Where I park at work, I have to park on the street with very tight parking sometimes, so really need a small car and preferably a hatch due to all the sports I do etc. And then there's the cost of course! I can't really lay the cable out at night so need (here up North) a car that will preheat/cool on battery alone. Of course I don't (need) that feature but if I'm spending that amount of money, I'd like as much usability as possible! I only mention the Golf BEV because I have the Golf diesel at the moment and it's all the car I need - but also that it's prices are coming down quite quickly! But then if I'm going to get a passively cooled car, why not get a 2nd gen Leaf? As James said the MG5 prices are coming right down but I don't think I can quite do with the size, the 4 will be about perfect but it's too much at the moment! I am getting quite excited as the Kona's and E-Niro's are coming down nicely and they would be the perfect car for me. But then, why not just get another Golf (petrol) cheap and wait for the E-Niro to hit a lower level? Decisions, decisions!

[@fix-and-drive-diy-repairs]

Just being polite here, If I was selling, renting, leasing and repairing electric cars, would I say anything negative about electric cars? I've seen people buying electric cars then later go back to diesel,

[@rtfazeberdee3519]

Great update video

[@richardh6756]

Love your channel ❤ have been following since your Nissan leaf days. Just brought my first ever ev it's a kia Niro 64khw new shape model 2.

[@robsmith1a]

Somebody might break into your charge port and charge your car while you aren't looking

[@alanjenkinson7812]

Hi james. Have you calculated charging vs fuel costs after 70k. Would be interesting to know how much you’ve saved on fuel even though you do a lot of public charging

[@Brian-om2hh]

The savings aren't just on fuel. There are considerable savings on servicing too...... And Octopus Intelligent has just dropped in price, from 10p per kwh to 7.5p per kwh...........

[@DaveCorbey]

Neodymium magnets on the charge flap and attachment point would have been so much much neater. Also I agree bout the mileage, MOTs should be 4 years or 40K miles whichever is sooner, as this is about the time tyres, brakes wiper blades etc.. need changing on most cars.

[@danuk2005]

I would liked to have seen a proper catch like on car doors or the nissan leaf. I don't think it can be replaced on its own and needs a new charge port fitting This pin seems very flimsy. Someone with an MG4 has snapped theirs when trying to close the charging flap when it was frozen. I believe that they were quoted around £800 to replace the charge port and the car was only a few weeks old.

[@Jamesandkate]

Agreed, a design fault for sure

[@jhdudleydudley3871]

I just push it in once the flap is opened its very likely to be broken when using high power public charging points because they are very heavy cables and less flexible which means you could bash it off with big CCS plug

[@stuartswanuk]

The only thing I was waiting for you to talk about was battery health and charging and you never did so I’m gonna guess everything is ok?

[@kurdmap77]

Hi i want to become EV technician in UK but i am in iraq can you advise me how do it? Thanks

[@daves4026]

Please what is the range currently in the motorway?

[@Jamesandkate]

Anywhere from 180 in very cold to 250 in very hot weather

[@daves4026]

@@Jamesandkate thank you

[@TheGourmetSnapper]

Regarding your comment about the first MOT at 3 years from date of first registration. Cars these days can do substantially higher mileage than those of yesteryear, especially EVs. Those in the industry will know there has been talk from the Government on more than one occasion about making the MOT every 2 years, making a 3-2-2 interval. This is a bad idea and in my opinion, the internal should be kept annually, but going further the first MOT should be at 2 years old, i.e. 2-1-1.

[@Benjamin_Jehne]

I still love, that this EV just looks like a normal car.

[@mikebreen2890]

I don't get the tyre rotation, why?

[@typxxilps]

15 for a used one or new UK incentives ?

[@fanfeck2844]

That’ll be used

[@davidmaclean5326]

Also, that will be with the smaller battery. There are no LR cars available at £15k....yet

[@damienhoneyford2088]

If the biggest problem you've had with the MG is a broken charge flap lock, I'm jealous I must say. My Hyundai Ioniq 5 has spent the last two months with the dealer after an ICCU failure stopped the 12v battery from being charged -- it took them 6 weeks just to diagnose this and I have now sold it back to them because it's riddiculous that a car be off the road for that amount of time given it was only 10 months old with 3000 miles on the clock when it died.

[@adiunkraut3778]

...ich würde einfach mit Magneten irgendwas nasteln um die Ladeklappe zu fixieren 😉

[@adamspencer95]

good to see the famed MG 7 year warranty being entirely worthwhile then.... 😂

[@MrJuego]

The warranty is a joke! I've never had a manufacturer try and charge for diagnostics or if no fault is found until the MG 5, mine is the first and last for me! We had plans to replace my partners focus with an MG 4 next year, that's not happening now. Soon as this can go back to finance it's gone! It's a shame though because it's a good car otherwise, just let down with a warranty that's not worth the paper it's written on so to speak.

[@computerbob06]

I've seen a few videos/reviews of the MG4 problems and not being fixed under warranty! Makes me want to consider the Korean cars even more.

[@talkingdriveruk]

Yeah I’m with you regarding warranty. Great car to drive, let down my all sorts of issues I’ve had.

[@martinjoyce9274]

It was designed by ex jaguar landrover team in China.

[@Eb3nez3r]

£15k for a Montego, no thanks lol. Great video! Thanks for the update :)

[@Jamesandkate]

It’s based on a Vauxhall 😉

[@TheOnlyJizz]

Battery SOH would've been useful

[@immytv]

15 grand ? Check auto trader and get back to me lmao

[@graemetaylor629]

made in china make up your own mind

[@Jamesandkate]

That's the sort of comment only a purely uneducated or completely ignorant weapon would make... I'll guess you qualify for all.

[@jeffcartwright7270]

So is the phone or computer you are using to type this reply no doubt !.

[@alastairkeith8553]

Did you watch the video? 70k hard working miles with no major issues - ‘ made in China make up your own mind’ - I think I have made my mind up 😮

[@jolive3743]

China started making evs 10 years before the west woke up, they are a long way ahead