2021 Ski Binding Comparison with SkiEssentials.com

Here it is! Our first ever binding comparison. Feel free to give us feedback or let us know what you think we missed, should've included, could've left out, etc. As always, here are time stamps:
00:00 - Intro
4:45 - Marker 10.0 TP
5:55 - Tyrolia Attack 11
7:15 - Marker Squire
8:50 - Salomon Warden 11
11:20 - Tyrolia Attack 13
12:45 - Marker Griffon 13
14:45 - Armada Warden 13
16:00 - Look SPX 12
17:45 - Tyrolia Attack 14 AT
19:55 - Marker Jester and Jester Pro
22:25 - Tyrolia Attack 16
23:30 - Marker XComp Race 18
25:00 - Look Pivot 14 and 18 (with mention of the 15)
31:40 - Knee Binding Hard Core
34:20 - Salomon/Atomic/Armada Shift 10 and 13
36:30 - Marker F12 Tour
37:30 - Marker Duke PT 12 and 16
Written Comparison: www.skiessentials.com/Chairli...

[@chrisj6688]

Jeff: “If we went in to the technical details, this could he a 4 hour video.” Me: “Go on...”

[@SkiEssentials]

Considering the 35 likes this comment got, that might just happen someday! I think it might be easier to break it down into smaller categories and go more in depth within that category... or at least better for my personal sanity.

[@nafnaf0]

I would certainly watch it!

[@powisallgood9199]

Some of us are tech geeks and we love the info. Great vid!!!

[@BrandonMeyer1641]

I own a pair of pivot 14 and a pair of griffons. At a 9 din I feel both are just right right for me. I fall into the range of the higher end bindings but there’s no need considering they are heavier and much more expensive. I like both of them and there are pros and cons to both. Having to put your ski back on in deep snow with a pivot is true pain that heel loves to get off center if it’s not lined up properly or it turns a bit while trying to step in. Griffon is easier in that respect but it does take more force to get in. The way the pivot is designed you can absolutely feel the whole ski flexing under foot while the griffon kind of gives more of a sturdy platform. Both have pros and cons in that respect. The pivots elastic travel is noticeable for type 3 and 3+ skiers there are times when you mess up a bit and you feel the heel in the pivot start to release, but you get yourself together and it sucks you right back in. It’s a pretty cool feeling. When I have released in pivots I couldn’t feel it happening which is not something I can say about the griffon. The pivot never pre released on me but I have had a situation where the toe on my griffon let go prematurely. I was basically at a complete stop looking for my next line and it just felt as though my binding just let go with zero effort. It wasn’t really a big deal I just skied down one mogul on my other ski grabbed it and put it back on. Still kinda weird and gave me some trust issues for a while. Haven’t had issues since tho so that’s a good thing. Marker bindings have the pro of being able to switch out brakes easily when switching the binding to another ski which really is a big plus compared to the pivot. I plan to keep both for a long while and I’m sure they will continue to serve me well. I think if you fall into the type 3 or 3+ skier range you should give pivots a try if you haven’t already. they are worth the money in my opinion.

[@The0rnate]

This comparison video was MASSSIVELY helpful for me! I'm a long-time skier but a first-time buyer this year. Always did rentals as a tourist skier but did it plenty with my dad growing up. I've struggled to find good videos that compare the gear that I want to see but this channel's ski and binding reviews have been the pinnacle of comparative information. Thank you, deeply and truly.

[@SkiEssentials]

Thanks! Very happy it helped! SE

[@lifeshard1686]

Pivot snob you say...I haven't hear the term before...but yeah that's a good description for me

[@simonorr594]

Yeah, skis work differently in the bumps with Pivots - they flex

[@Rickshaw_Bohammer]

@@simonorr594 better or worse for moguls?

[@shelloiluk]

Same here

[@crunchysoup406]

@@Rickshaw_Bohammer way better, watch the olympics. they all use pivots

[@jamesmoughamian4344]

its actually gross seeing all that shit next to lord pivot

[@youreaphagatron]

These are hands down the best gear review/explanation videos I have ever seen and I watch tons of them. Please keep these up!

[@SkiEssentials]

Thanks! We plan to do a lot more videos in this style down the road.

[@hannahconerly2465]

AGREED!!!

[@lifeshard1686]

These videos are awesome. Glad I found them

[@SkiEssentials]

Thanks Adam!

[@JohnConnVT802]

Great video and thank you for the great information and advice. Jeff put me into Tyrolia Attack 13 about two years ago and still lovin' them.... even purchased two more pairs for my new work skis. Those bindings get the job done. My confidence binding!

[@SkiEssentials]

So glad they're working well for you, John! I have a lot of trust in the Attack bindings.

[@davidborof607]

Another helpful video, Jeff! I appreciate the time you took and the effort to make it. I learned a few things, so watching it was worth the time for me. Thank you, again! Happy holidays to you and the crew!

[@SkiEssentials]

Thanks David! Happy Holidays!

[@hannahconerly2465]

I found better prices elsewhere online for my bindings....but bought them from Ski Essentials just because of these AWESOME review videos!!! yall are the best thank you so much!

[@SkiEssentials]

Wow, Hannah! Thank you so much! That means a lot to us.

[@stephenkennedy3145]

Thank you for taking the time to do these vids and share them

[@dbquek]

Great review......one thing worth mentioning about the Tyrolia Attacks (other than the low stand height and wide toe piece) is that they are also very easy to step into. Useful in deeper snow. Some of the Marker bindings in particular can be harder to step into.

[@akskier44]

Skied Pivot14s for years. Never a pre-release. Best bindings ever for me.

[@edvinostman8569]

Great video Jeff! Keep it up!

[@kx7kx782]

I got Salomon STH2 WTR 16, Salomon Warden MNC 13, Salomon Guardian MNC 16 and Salomon MNC Shift 13 and I like them all. Great video!

[@SkiEssentials]

Thanks! All great bindings.

[@oscarpow]

What a great review. It clarified the questions I had and now I can choose confident my next bindings. Thank you very much!

[@SkiEssentials]

Glad it was helpful!

[@SportNut1]

This is a great great review that every ski shopper should listen to. Thank you!

[@bobbarrett6882]

Great video! I just bought a pair of new Kastle MX 89s and was leaning towards the Look Pivot 15. Thank you!

[@SkiEssentials]

Great combo!

[@NPow94]

Hey Jeff, thanks for the honesty on the ranges.

[@SkiEssentials]

Happy to help! SE

[@JHR4TX]

Best, most well organized ski equipment information on the internet … thanks for the effort.

[@SkiEssentials]

Wow, thanks!

[@rds990]

I miss my 1973 Look Nevada Gran Prix bindings. I had 7 sets. I used to run them on my Dynamic VR17's and my Rossi Roc 550's. They looked almost exactly like the current Look Pivot. Amazing. The old binding had a turntable heal too. Back to 1974 Hooray. Those bindings were sensational bindings that I'd buy today if they were available.

[@owenpatterson9355]

Came back to this after 3 years on Pivot 12s on recommendation from this video. I was getting my brother some skis and really pissed off the salesman when I said I’d never put any other binding on my resorts ski, but I stand by it!

[@SkiEssentials]

The heart wants what it wants!

[@mikehunt3102]

The extra ski flex you get from the pivot is actually really noticeable. I recently changed the bindings on my skis from the dynafit beast to the pivot and it made the tail so much more flexible, took some getting used to. At first I actually didn't really like it and thought the ski felt too soft but now I love it, makes the skis feel so much more lively.

[@SkiEssentials]

Pretty amazing, isn't it? Putting a Pivot on a ski will change the way it feels compared to just about any other binding on the market.

[@andersmattsson1395]

Great review, thanks!!

[@fimfengius]

Hi Jeff! Communicated with a Marker F12 tour specialist and he reported that the frame was not totally rigid but had some flex to it. The major shortcomings are probably stack height and weight. However, the shortcoming of stack height might to some extent be mitigated by the construction of this particular frame, but weight is what it is, like 300 grams heavier than the Salomon S/lab shift 13.

[@jubjuber1]

I have the attack 11's as a fairly intermediate skier (running 8 DIN at 170 lbs 6'0) and love them so far! no accidental pre-releases so far, and I like how stable and low they feel on faction agent 100s (100mm underfoot)

[@SkiEssentials]

Really good binding for that ski! There's not a massive difference between the Attack 11 and 13, I think the Attack 11 is one of the best in that DIN range.

[@rhydon777]

Good video! When it came time to upgrade the skis for both myself and my daughter, I went with Look. Mostly, because I believe they are safer. As you say, I am sure the other bindings do release as designed, but Look bindings are designed to have additional vectors of release. The 180 degree release at the toe is a big deal. The turn table heal lowers the chance of tibia fractures. Throw in the excellent elastic travel, low stand height, and shorter footprint that allows better flex in the ski... well the competition has a way to go.

[@SkiEssentials]

There's no question it gives you an incredible connection to your skis and allows for a very natural flex pattern. It's amazing to think how long that design has been around...

[@matthiasogrinc5951]

I’ve had a lot of bindings the pivots are the best choice of your a good freestyle or freeride skiier

[@appleflamingogecko1657]

Great job! Thanks for the reviews

[@SkiEssentials]

Glad to do them!

[@powisallgood9199]

Great video Jeff. I'm looking to upgrade my kit and and I want to get into a hybrid binding so it was good to get a general introduction of the Shifts and the Dukes. Watched most of the video though and it was very informative. I last bought equipment back in the early 2000s so a lot has changed so it's great to learn what's out there. Cheers!!!

[@SkiEssentials]

Thanks! Just remember that the Hybrid bindings do require tech fittings on the boots to go uphill! SE

[@sithys]

I got a pair of Pivots with my ON3P Woodsman skis. The bindings have a wide range of directions where they will not pop off. I see a lot of kids in the park with Pivots going off jumps and landing backwards, etc.

[@sawyerfarbotnik3606]

The side release makes them super popular with park skiers because you can lean really far forward and backwards with out them coming off. I have ON3P Magnus 102s and paired with the flex of the ski they are game changers

[@rich7447]

There aren't really any bad bindings anymore. I tend to go with a past model year that is on deep discount and has a maximum DIN of at least 13. That sometimes means strange color combinations (like a blue and Orange Hart Fusion with Fischer FF Z17). I have had turntable heels in the past (Marker MRR on Dynamic VR27 SL DP) and didn't notice any difference over a standard heel setup.

[@steveshea8827]

The Rossi/Look pivot is the best binding. Why? It's shock absorbing capability, lateral and veritcal in the toe and vertical in the heel. Also the screw/mount pattern of the heel and toe are very close allowing for more of the ski's natural flex and counter flex. In most skiing we constantly develop shock so a binding with better/more shock travel will hold a good skier in more consistently and allows an aspiring skier to push a bit yet the pivot still has a consistent smooth release even at slower speeds. I can't think of another binding I'd rather ski on.

[@ryan39584]

Pivot has saved my knee multiple times now.

[@lukamartinovic9815]

Super helpful video! Trying to get a DIN setting. I am 5’10” 200lbs 29 boot size. I’m an aggressive skier, love to go fast, but don’t find myself in the trees or the terrain park often. Mainly find myself on the groomed black trails on the trails of the mountain will do blues as well but still like the not groomed double black. Thanks for the help!

[@SkiEssentials]

Hi Luka! There are charts online that can help, but please have all binding work done by a certified technician.

[@SpecSOnYoutube]

Most likely going to bump up to the Marker Jesters, i’ve been rocking the Marker griffin 13 but i’ve had them for a good minute and feel like i’m becoming a more aggressive skier so i’ll probably go with the slightly heavier, better built binds. Thanks for the info!

[@SkiEssentials]

Yeah, Jesters are a nice upgrade. The magnesium housing really adds some extra confidence.

[@theoutsider6191]

Great review. I am very impressed with the quality of bindings these days. I can't think of the last time I had a pre-release, which used to be an issue in the 1980s :-) Only issue I've had with bindings in 20 years I'd say is the AFD moving plates under the toe of the boot. I've had 2 of these on Look bindings fail to the point where I had to get new toe pieces mounted to the skis. Not good, and Look didn't want to know about refunds in either case and they were under a month old in one case and 3 months the other. So I just opt for kit that doesn't have the moving plates to avoid repeat performances.

[@Whybother69]

I thought this video was gonna be boring. It wasn’t at all👍

[@shelloiluk]

I only ride Pivots. For me I like their ability to let the ski flex with the short drill base and also I have loads of faith in their safety ability.

[@SkiEssentials]

Plenty to like about them! I use more Pivots than anything else personally.

[@VickiKech]

Thank you, this was very helpful.

[@SkiEssentials]

Glad you found it useful, Vicki!

[@haverhill9]

Awesome Video... thanks for the tutorial

[@jmanswat2457]

In a blind test I doubt most people would be able to tell which alpine Bindings they are riding except for when it comes to the Look Pivot. But Bindings are about safety, feel, and control... then weight. I work at a shop and usually recommend the SPX and Pivot if your Need Priorities are performance and safety (Look toe pieces also release vertically for added elastic travel and safety). Put a Pivot on your most favoritest ski(s)/daily drivers; and put anything else you can get a deal on on the rest of your quiver/future hand-me-downs. Next recommendation are Bindings like the salmon/atomic warden because of it's multi-boot sole norm compatibility. Then it'll fit any of your, or, someone else's alpine boots for any reason.

[@ck_defender]

Great review and super helpful. Twin tip review still on its way?!? Thanks

[@SkiEssentials]

We're still trying to work those in! We have some recent COVID restrictions that's made it hard/unsafe for Bob and I to film those longer videos in the same room... so we're kind of waiting/brainstorming how to do the rest.

[@FullContactDrummer]

Great vid. I ended up going with the Pivot 14 because of this video. They were a little more but I'm old and fat and thought the Pivot is safer. I'll feel better about it.

[@SkiEssentials]

It is a fantastic binding and if you're focused on safety, I do think it's nice to have the elastic travel of the heel and 360 release in the toe.

[@jonathonsvoboda5618]

Hey jeff thanks for the great information. I'm 6'1" 240 lbs... I'm not a charger or super aggressive skier. Just laid back and love pow but end up skiing with my kids alot inbounds. I'm looking at getting into touring. So I have two questions... what is my din and which would you choose? I was initially thinking a pivot, griffon or attack with a daymaker. I'm thinking a shift maybe the correct answer? I'll be mounting on 4frnt msp 107...

[@SkiEssentials]

Without knowing your boot size, I can't tell you exactly what your DIN is, but I expect it's somewhere between 8.5 and 10.5. Yes! I agree, I think a Shift would be a great choice. I don't expect you'll push that binding past its limits, and it'll be a much better touring experience than on a Pivot/Griffon/Attack + Daymakers.

[@jameswitherspoon7640]

Great video Jeff. I’ve always skied Markers but I’m interested in the Pivot for this season. Do you ever steer certain ability levels away from pivots?

[@SkiEssentials]

Away from the Pivot 15 and 18, yes, but the Pivot 12 and 14 are perfectly appropriate for a wide range of skiers. Really the only ability level I wouldn't recommend them to would be a beginner or low-level intermediate, mostly just because of the functionality. The fact that the heel piece can pivot can be confusing at times, especially for someone without much experience with ski equipment.

[@LouDuhChris]

Hi Jeff, Thanks to you and the team for putting these helpful videos together! I’m 5’10” 162lb type 3 skier. I’m thinking about buying the Black Crows Camox 97 at 180.4 as an all mountain, trees, moguls, and plan to introduce myself to the park for the first in my 15 years of experience. Primarily ski west coast but will do occasional trips to VT/NH. I think my DIN is set to 7 when I have rented skis. Trying to find a relatively lighter binding - have never tried pivot bindings but thought the Look Pivot 14’s would be good for me and wanted to get your thoughts! What is another binding you would recommend for me? Also considering Attack 16 / STH 16

[@SkiEssentials]

Hello! Pivot 14 would be an excellent binding for you. It will work really well with the Camox and is a fantastic binding for the terrain park. Good elastic travel, which means more confidence on landings, especially switch landings. Very durable too, so it will last you for years and years and years. I have no reason to recommend a different binding, although I do have full trust in the Attack 16 (used to compete on that binding), Jester, as well as the new Strive 16.

[@spartan2600]

My local ski shop guy who does all their bindings says Salomon consistently has the most accurate DIN settings according to whatever instrument he uses to test them, so he uses those and recommends them. Sounds like that is as good of a differentiator as anything else. My first and longtime all-rounder ski binding is a Look SPX, and my new powder-ski binding is a Salomon and... tere is no debate, the Look bindings look the best!

[@SkiEssentials]

My personal preference for bindings is Look, but there's a lot to like about the Salomon design. I especially like the STH toe piece.

[@nafnaf0]

For me it is pretty simple. If I want an alpine binding I go Tyrolia Attack 13, if I want to tour Atomic/Salomon Shift

[@SkiEssentials]

Simple, yet effective!

[@jayr7836]

I got the marker xcomp 18s on a race plate sitting on top of my blizzard WRC .....I love the whole set up and havent had any problems getting exploded out my skis lol

[@SkiEssentials]

I'd hope not!

[@demontime1232]

I bought the Tyrolia Attack 11 for my Line skis and both plastic bits that hold the stoppers broke the same day. Now I am buying Marker bindings

[@SkiEssentials]

Hope that helps!

[@jonathanlafleche]

Hi there!!!! As always great vid! Just spent hours on you ski reviews. Sooooooo I just bought a pair of Black Crows Serpo, and it needs a good pair or bindings. When this video was posted, I'm not sure the Atomic/Salomon Strive 13 was on the market. Any thoughts if this would be a good match? I was also considering the Attack or Warden. I'm 5'-10", 180lbs, mainly on piste with all sort of snow conditions with the occasional off piste tracks. Thanks 🙏🏻

[@SkiEssentials]

Hey Jonathan! Good eye! No, it wasn't yet on the market. It is, however, a great binding and one that I've grown quite fond of. I have a couple pairs of Strive 14s on personal skis and they've held up to everything I've dished out without issue. Go for it. Nice low stand height, good connection to your skis, should go nicely on the Serpo.

[@scollyutube]

Great content again Jeff. Only comment I can add from my experience is the Tyrolia Attacks have to have the toe piece height set manually for your boots where the rest mostly auto adjust. I ski 2 sets of boots of different ages and brands and the Attack 13 toe pieces are quite picky on their height settings (business card test) between both i.e. to be safe I need to adjust the AFD spacing height when swapping boots, where on my Griffins and SPX 12s I do not. Something to consider if more than one person is using a set of skis too?

[@SkiEssentials]

Yeah, that's a good point. The same is true about most Salomon bindings (not all, but most). We were testing Salomon skis today and basically carry a screw driver with us to adjust toe height on the fly.

[@carterfan80]

Would the pivot 14 have auto toe height adjustment?

[@susieasado6675]

Marker completely redesigned the Squire for 2022. I would be interested to know your opinion on the redesigned Squire and where you feel there is still a “upper weight.” Great video as always. Thank you.

[@SkiEssentials]

Hey Susie! Once we get on snow we'll try to work in some Squire testing and maybe even do a stand-alone review for that binding.

[@notunhungry4025]

Thanks for the super informative video on bindings! Are the Rossignol Axial 3 Dual 120 bindings essentially the same as the Look SPX 12 (aside from the whole Grip Walk compatability?). Is there any reason to change up the Rossignol Axial Dual 120 bindings to say the Marker Griffon 13 or the Tyrolia Attack 13 to put on a new pair of 101mm All Mountain/Freeride Skis? DIN currently set to 6 for a 5'5 female about 135lbs Type II/III skier on groomers, powder (when it's there), moguls, trees - a bit of everything. Thanks so much for your help!

[@SkiEssentials]

Hello! So sorry for the delay getting back to you. Busy time of year around here. Yes, the Axial 3 is essentially the same binding as the Look SPX. Probably not, no. The Axial 3 is a great binding and you're not really going to get a noticeable increase in performance switching to either a Griffon or Attack. Hope that helps!

[@nowornever2504]

Very informative. Thank you

[@SkiEssentials]

Very welcome

[@outyxt800]

Happy New Year bud I’m not sure what impresses me more your amazing detailed well thought out videos or how you take the time to reply to everyone comment once. Seems like you better ask the right questions the first time cause it’s a 1 and done lol. Im 46, 5’10 190lbs squeezing into 26.5 Salomon pro boot. I just ordered a Salomon QST 106 in 165 do to your reviews on it. These bindings are driving me crazy lol. I picked up new marker Griffen bindings 110, new warden mnc 115 and ordered look pivot 12 in 115. I’m intermediate and looked at my ski setup I’m using now and it’s set at 6.5 for din. Now I’m looking at the attack 13 or 14/ look spx 12. Obviously money ain’t a concern for me, I just wanted something light and help me ski better and longer without fatigue kicking in. Whats your top choice and please throw a second in. I plane to run groomed and diamonds. Basically all mountain. Thanks in advance

[@SkiEssentials]

Thanks, Steve! If you are charting out to a 6.5, you don't need a 14-Din binding, especially since you're looking for lighter options. I'd look at Marker Squire or the Attack 11. Have fun! SE

[@ChannelPineappleSon]

My first pair of pivots are gettin mounted right now. I’m really hoping they’re as good as I’m expecting!

[@SkiEssentials]

Have fun!

[@MegaSkiman]

Thanks Jeff, huge fan of your videos. Do you recommend storing LOOK bindings in the open or closed position in the off-season? It feels like there's less tension on the heel piece when it's in the closed position.

[@SkiEssentials]

Never really thought about it, but I suppose it would take the tension off. I've never had any issues with longevity with my Pivots, so I haven't really gone to that length.

[@owenmanley4833]

The Pivot 15 & 18 metal toe piece do have some elasticity. They can be rotated under load.

[@SkiEssentials]

Yes, thanks Owen. We had clarified that section of the video as it wasn't entirely accurate, but maybe that note is gone. I'll look into it! Thanks again.

[@tsut99]

I went with a pivot 15 for my new skis, because of the din range, durability, and performance testimonials. Did I hear correctly that the pivot 14 is actually a bit of a safer binding? Wondering if I'm good where I'm at on the 15. I'm around 195 lb, 5'8", somewhat aggressive. Probably type III.

[@SkiEssentials]

At your weight and ability level, Pivot 15 is great. They're equally safe, I might have mislead people a little bit there, it's just that the way they function is different (in the toe piece). In my opinion, just from what I've witnessed and from skiing both of them, the 14 is arguably a better choice for a lighter, less aggressive skier just due to how the release mechanism works on the toe. At your weight, even if you're not that aggressive, I think you made the right choice. 15 will last longer.

[@jp23765]

Great video thanks! I have Scarpa boots with interchangeable soles for touring & alpine setup. Does the Warden MNC need any special config or would it right away work for whichever sole I choose? (I use both soles depending on whether I’m using my alpine skis or touring setup, so want the flexibility)

[@SkiEssentials]

Only thing you'll have to adjust is the toe height, which is pretty easy to do on your own.

[@jp23765]

@@SkiEssentials thanks for the info ✌🏻

[@corbinhood8263]

I have the attack 13 bindings. But im thinking about upgrading to the 16.which would be better for an all mountain powder ski? Attack 16 or the look pivot?

[@SkiEssentials]

I've skied both on powder skis and they both perform really well. Back when I was competing I skied the Attack 16 more than anything else and it never let me down. I do like how Pivots allow the ski to flex a little more, but I feel like that's less noticeable in powder.

[@stan4057]

Hi Jeff, I'm 5'10'', 175 lbs, wearing size 27 boots, ski on groomed surfaces, intermediate (blue to black) for the most time, know how to parallel, but still practicing. I am currently setting my DIN to be 7, but I'm not sure if that's the correct number for me. Do you have any recommendation on my DIN or any specific binding? Thanks a lot!

[@SkiEssentials]

7 sounds perfect to me. If you identified as a type 3 skier, that would move up to 8.5, but it doesn't sound like that's necessary. For binding choice, I'd stick with those bindings I mentioned were the "bread and butter" of all ski bindings. Attack 13, Griffon 13, SPX, Warden... all good choices for you.

[@aaronpower998]

Just got a pair of Technica Cochise 120 as I am planning on getting into more backcountry but need to update my resort bindings so I can use the grip walk soles. Looking between the griphons and the attack 14s. Is there any major difference between the two that I should be aware of?

[@SkiEssentials]

Not a major difference, no. Grip Walk will work perfectly well with the Attack 13 too if you want to save a little money and get the lower stand height. It's only the rockered touring soles that don't work with Attack 13s.

[@mohamedshabrawishi1875]

Jeff, thank you for the video! I bought my first set of skis recently, 2024 K2 Mindbender 89ti, and chose the Marker Squire 11 (without doing too much prior research). I am an intermediate skier 5'11'' & 175 lbs. I have about 10 days of skiing on them and have not had any issues so far but they do feel flimsy, especially as I am beginning to ski advanced terrain & bumps. Would you recommend changing them now (if so what would you recommend as an alternative?) or should I take my chances for the time being? Thanks so much!

[@SkiEssentials]

I think you are right in that they are fine. The Marker Griffon will feel more substantial, but will likely not make a big difference when it comes to sheer performance. Confidence, yes, but performance, not quite as much.

[@seanharrison2898]

I would have liked a comparison between the Duke PT and the CAST system otherwise that was a great learning experience for me, thanks.

[@SkiEssentials]

Thanks Sean! We're going to try to get out hands on the CAST system to do a direct comparison and/or a solo review as a lot of you have been asking about it.

[@Paramedic229]

@@SkiEssentials Let me know if you need to get a pair of CAST for review. I can help with that.

[@rostysalvkravchenko155]

Hi Jeff. Well made introduction. thank U. Read comments as well, still not certain what would work for me, mainly because the type of skis is essential part of choosing bindings. Will get to the point; I'm 6'10 , 178 lb, intermed/expert, groomer. Just got Liberty evolve 90 at 172 ( wanted to buy from u guys but u out of stock :( ) liked the idea of low point stand and elasticity . Can't say exactly a type of release 1 -3 I prefer , never badly crashed - thankfully . this is all info I can think of . Please, if U would make your suggestions based on info I've provided, I could get on buying the one I need. Thank U !

[@SkiEssentials]

Griffon, Jester, SPX 12, or Pivot are probably the best options. Those all have the most elastic travel in the heel, which I think is where it's most beneficial. SPX 12 feels like a cool choice, actually...

[@kevinmacero2786]

You guys are the best. I bought a pair of enforcer 104's unlimited....i was skiing on a pair of enforcer 100's w griffon. Beat up the griffons pretty good. So need a binding w some more strength. The look pivots? Any issues with mounting the 115 width bindings on a 104 ski? I am 6'1", 200lbs, ski pretty hard.

[@SkiEssentials]

I personally bend the 95's to fit the 104. There's a bit of rubbing, but I think that's better than the amount of hang created with the 115. Have fun! SE

[@sorenhoien1381]

I am debating between the Jester and the Griffon. My DIN is set usually around 8-9 - based on research I've done, people have said that the griffons are easier to damage than the jesters due to the heel piece construction. As a skier who tends to work his gear hard, what would you recommend?

[@HodenMc]

I got a 10 years old jester on my skis and its holding up good! Riding a Din 15 pretty hard!

[@SkiEssentials]

Hey Soren! I would go with the Jester if you're worried about damaging your gear. Those of us who are hard on gear typically know we're hard on gear based on past experiences. You can break a heel piece of a Griffon more easily than a Jester, yes. Do most people have to worry about that? Absolutely not, but it's possible. The Jester has a magnesium heel piece, the Griffon is plastic.

[@joris7124]

What‘s better? Warden MNC 13 or STH2 WTR 13 for freeride and park? Love this comparison, so good!

[@SkiEssentials]

I personally would rather ski the STH in the park I think. Lots of park skiers love that binding. Warden would work just fine too, not drastically different overall.

[@froznfire9531]

With my last pair of skis, I got Attack 16s but my boot wouldn´t fit into them (I have a freeride alpine touring boot) although it said on their website that it would fit. Changed to the Jesters and they worked perfectly fine and seem to be able to handle more different boot soles. But great overlook, the Pivots look so great but just not my color combination, I´d love them to produce more colorways for them :)

[@Ebleuez]

Hello! I am a big moutain and freestyle backcountry skier. I have been skiing on the griffon for the past 3 years. I was wondering if the pivots14/15 were worth the extra 200/500 or so grams over the griffon because I will buy new skis for next season. (for information I skied the atris for the past 3years and I am looking into buying the revolt 104 and the anima)

[@SkiEssentials]

200 grams isn't going to feel like a big difference. So, if you're looking for a slightly stronger binding, but one that's still relatively light, the Pivot 14 would be great. 500 grams will be noticeable. Some skiers don't mind it (I have Pivot 18s on a lot of my skis and don't mind the extra weight), although generally lighter and/or less aggressive skiers will notice a difference.

[@efecankoyu1413]

A Question; Tyrolia Attack 13 and Marker Squire. As far as I know Squire has Max 11 Din number. If you keep it around 6 or 7, what kind of problems can 160lbs aggressive skier face to? I am not against paying more but the weight difference.. Thanks for the video!

[@SkiEssentials]

The Attack 13 is a stronger binding overall. In my opinion, at your weight, as an aggressive skier, you're really pushing the limits of the Squire. Potential pre-release, or you could even completely break the binding. There are plenty of benefits to the Squire for lighter skiers, but I personally wouldn't recommend it to an aggressive skier of your size.

[@lisi2004148]

Great video thx a lot

[@alexguiseppe]

I’m trying to qualify for the fwt I grew up destroying griffins and am looking for a 16 din binding I’m thinking the attacks but how much better are the jesters cause like I said I destroyed griffins before and am skeptical about going back to marker and on another note I’ve heard pivots are not the best pow binding what is your opinion on that

[@SkiEssentials]

To be honest I can't really say I prefer the Attack over the Jester or vice versa. Both would work just fine, plenty of people on the FWT using both bindings without issue. I also have no issue with Pivots in powder if you want to go that route. I think the reason why some people complain about them in soft snow is they can be kinda hard to click back into if it's really deep.

[@sampezeshki4977]

Hi Jeff, thanks for all the contents, very informative. Question: Is Tyrolia Attack 13 discontinued for 2023?

[@SkiEssentials]

Hi Sam! It changed to a 14 for 2022/23, and they've also added the Guardian (safer) model for 2023 as well. We're not totally sure if they actually put a stiffer spring in the binding or if ended up being a testing-based change, but it sure seems like the same binding to us. Have fun! SE

[@cljim22]

Any thoughts on the Look NX 11? Is it limited to smaller skiiers like the other cheap bindings you discuss?

[@SkiEssentials]

In my opinion, there are some limitations with that binding, yeah. I wouldn't recommend it to a heavier skier or someone who is aggressive. The heel piece is light and without much elastic travel, so may be prone to pre-releasing for bigger skiers.

[@NewDoughs]

haha, I am 6'1 205 pounds and id say very agressive skiier and i still ski the marker squire. I haven't had an issues but after seeing this video and my din being calculated to more than the squire has, i think it might be time to get some new bindings. Any recommendations? I want pretty much the cheapest ones possible. I have normal soled boots.

[@SkiEssentials]

Hey Jack! You're not alone. I see a lot of bigger guys on Squires. It can work, but it's not ideal. I'd just bump up to the Marker Griffon. It'll have similar performance to your Squires, it's just a little stronger and should last longer too, more durable.

[@robinmabbott7334]

When I used to Ski in the 70s I used K2 710 comps 210 skis Salomon 727 bindings and Salomon boots

[@SkiEssentials]

Amazingly, that Salomon binding technology has not changed a whole lot.

[@johncarder819]

In the Pivot review, you mentioned the Salomon STH. Any chance of a review?

[@SkiEssentials]

Hey John! Would love to do a STH review. I have a pair of an Armada Declivity 92. Perhaps I'll do a deep dive review of that binding in the coming weeks.

[@johncarder819]

@@SkiEssentials I am a big guy (6'3", 230#). I actually wore out a pair of Salomon bindings (metal fatigued both of them). I replaced them with the STH2 and they've been bulletproof.

[@golong9398]

Looking to put bindings on new Elan Ripstick 106. Between Griffon 13 and Warden 13. I’m an advanced all mountain skier, pretty aggressive, lots of back bowls, choppy snow, etc. 5’11” 165lbs. I’m hearing that Wardens are more durable, with a slightly larger pitch. Griffon of course very popular. Any advice?

[@SkiEssentials]

I would say Wardens are more durable, but you have a higher stand height on the Warden. Some skiers don't like that and prefer being closer to the ski, which is especially common on wider skis like the Ripstick 106. It might not be helpful in the moment, but Salomon/Atomic has a new binding next year called the Strive that will take a lot of the Warden business. Either would work, but remember the stand height as you make your decision.

[@Jarequis2]

What binding would you reccomend that's easy to get in and out of in fresh/deep snow/powder? Intermediate level skier i like to do a little bit of everything. Lastly hopefully it looks cool hahaha. Was looking at the Salomon Strive 14. Any feedback is appreciated thanks!

[@SkiEssentials]

We love the new Strive. Very easy to use, light, and with a low stand height it checks a whole lot of boxes. Can't go wrong with that binding!

[@wbb4814]

I have a look pivot from 2010...has it changed at all since then? Worth getting a new set?

[@SkiEssentials]

It really hasn't changed at all since 2010. You can get a GW compatible toe piece with the 15 and 18 now, but aside from that and new colors, it's the same binding.

[@lewandes]

Are Shifts good for basic park performane also? Smaller jumps ? 360 spins? Some jibbing?

[@SkiEssentials]

Yeah, for basic park skiing, they'll work fine. If you start hitting bigger jumps, doing bigger spins, etc, you'll probably want a stronger binding, or at least one with less moving parts.

[@mitchthegreat]

Great video. I just ordered some k2 90ti mind benders. I'm 6ft 225lbs. Also have head advant 85 boots. Any suggested bindings? Intermediate and not very aggressive.

[@SkiEssentials]

Marker Griffon should be plenty of binding for you, or Tyrolia Attack 13. Both of those pair well with the Mindbender 90.

[@mitchthegreat]

@@SkiEssentials thanks for taking the time and responding.

[@Stan-rf2bn]

Thanks for this great video. I'm an expert skier in which I'm 6'3 245 LBS, built like NFL LB. What Din rating would I fall into?

[@SkiEssentials]

BSL is a factor in the equation too, but I would guess that you're at least a 10 DIN and probably higher. My binding recommendations would be those in the 14+ category.

[@Stan-rf2bn]

@Paul Cysz My boot sole is 345.

[@julienmaheu5368]

Honnestly, as an aggressive skier, I got a bunch of issues with the pivot. As I liked the elastic travel of them and the way they keep te natural flex, I personnally think that the toe piece is cheaply made, especially the small metal piece that link the toe with the metals discs. I owned 2 pairs of pivots, and both ended up the same way, this little piece was cracked/and fell appart. It’s a great binding, but as Jeff said, clearly not for everyone. I own a pair of salomon sth since 2015 and I’d say it’s the best binding for my needs in the market. I’m testing some warden this year, as I didn’t find some new STH, curious to see how they compare each other. Excellent video btw, keep up the good work!

[@SkiEssentials]

A lot of skiers also don't really like the user interface with the Pivot heel--the STH and Warden are definitely easier to step in and out of.

[@hectorbenedi1020]

Thanks for the video! quite useful information man :) :) I just would like to share that I broke the Shift binding 3 times in 3 different places (toe piece, level, brake...) it left me stranded in some difficult faces so I really can´t recommend it. Lightweight YES, reliable.. NOT REALLY

[@predatorpwr]

Howdy Jeff - Great video. Overdue! Question - I have the shifts on some backland fr 102’s - I’ve had issues with the toes “clicking” in aggressive skiing even after having the height adjusted several times (last time by pinnacle). It freaks me out. Any advice? Ski tech said they’ve seen this happening to others as well.

[@jeffnrebs]

If it’s a vertical toe click it is generally the AFD I’ve had the same issue on my shifts. After adjusting them a few times mine are dialed now.

[@SkiEssentials]

Interesting. Definitely sounds like the toe height adjustment. Are you finding it feels okay, but then gets looser or more "clicky" the longer you ski? I'd be interested to take a look personally if you're local.

[@predatorpwr]

@@SkiEssentials that’s exactly how I’d describe it, generally feels okay but I still notice clicks infrequently, typically only when skiing aggressively. Unfortunately, not local. I live in boston.

[@SkiEssentials]

@@predatorpwr Yeah sounds like you're getting some movement in the AFD height. Interesting. How bad is it? Like on a given day of skiing, how many times do you feel it? Might actually be worth contacting Salomon if you've had techs look at it and try to fix it without success.

[@Harry-sh8vf]

Hi Jeff I use a size 308 boot and am a fairly aggressive skier however I’m around 135-140lbs. What bindings should I be looking at?

[@SkiEssentials]

I'd say you can narrow focus to the Marker Griffon or Tyrolia Attack 13/14. Nice high end to both of those bindings and are very reliable.

[@chrisdelorme1986]

I’ve recently purchased 2022 Atomic Bentchetler 100 in 180 length. Looking to either mount Salomon Warden MNC 13 or Look Pivot 15. I’m 53 years old, 5’ 11” and 220. Advanced Intermediate ski level and usually ski out West in Colorado or Utah. I have Tecnica Mach Sport EHV 120 Grip walk boots. My Din is between 7-8 usually, I.m looking to protect my knees as I get older and was advised to get the Look Pivot but, is that too much Binding or a good selection based on the above info for me? Please advise

[@SkiEssentials]

Certainly not too much binding for you, no. It's a little heavier, but a great choice for someone concerned about knee injuries thanks to the amount of elastic travel in both the toe and heel and the twisting release. You'll love it. Pivot skis better than the Warden too, so a win win, just more expensive.

[@jaredmayo7138]

Could you theoretically take the heel piece you like from one set of bindings and a toe piece from another? I’m not actually considering doing this I’m just curious.

[@Spleck9000]

You theoretical could but mounting and adjusting that would be a terrible time. If you were to stay within one “family” of binding it would probably work better, ex: using a jester heel piece with a griffon toe piece would probably work.

[@SkiEssentials]

Spencer pretty much nailed it. In theory, you could, but in practice it would be pretty difficult to get it right. You're also messing around with the ramp angle and how the bindings were intended to feel.

[@FlimFlamvanHam]

I have one other variable that many seem able to overcome: I'm super sensitive to ramp and prefer the low alpine toe height of the Pivot 15/18 which is 5mm lower than heel. The tall alpine AFD ped is 4mm higher so call it flat. The 12/14 toe, alpine setting, is only 2mm lower than the heel. I also get along well with a Salomon STH with the 6mm heel to toe drop. I just like talking about myself.

[@SkiEssentials]

We just talked about this regarding the new Salomon/Atomic/Armada Strive binding that has a pretty flat ramp.

[@NikosPer]

Silly question : Can i put a race ski plate in an all mountain ski like Atomic Maverick? Race plate is supposed to be able to adjust back and forth the bindings without making new drill holes right?

[@SkiEssentials]

In theory, you could, and yes, that concept is true, but putting a race plate on a Maverick would be giving it a big dead spot right in the middle of the ski. A lot of modern skis are intended to have a smooth, natural flex, which definitely describes the Maverick. While you could put a race plate on it, it's not something I would ever do personally.

[@klazar1982]

Loved my jesters(they did me dirty and didn’t release though). Been on warden13 since and they feel real good. Metal heel piece is nice. Not a fan of pivots because I want them to come off in a wreck especially after having an injury

[@SkiEssentials]

Warden 13 is a such a solid, trustworthy binding. I always think they give a confidence-inspiring feel, partly because when you look down at the toe piece, it looks solid and wraps your toe nicely.

[@davidcreighton-tu8ju]

Hello I just bought a Ranger 102 fr w/ kingpin 13 bindings. I want to try slack country skiing. My question is : are the bindings safe enough for me to ski blacks. I live in BC and ski Big White and will try Revelstoke this year. I have maverick 95 ti and QST 106. Absolutely love both but looking forward to trying the Fischer set up this season Looking forward to hearing back.

[@SkiEssentials]

We've seen some very high level skiing done on the Kingpin, I see no issue with the performance as long as they're adjusted properly. If you're using this setup exclusively for the resort, an alpine binding would be a better choice, though.

[@lexoleqsolexo]

thanks for this video, can you make video explaining sole, what kind of sole are there, what is compatible with what and how to choose

[@SkiEssentials]

Yes! I think a lot of people would find that helpful.

[@lexoleqsolexo]

@@SkiEssentials yeah, few days ago i was searching any info about it, in my exsample i have salomon z12 2015y and wanted to find out if k2 mindbender boots are compatible whith it but there is no articles and videos about that, it would be great if you make that kind of video

[@nixx5284]

Hey just a question, you guys may have made a mistake when you guys said that the pivot 15/18 doesn’t have an upward release and just wanted to ask a follow up question as I saw on the website that both have upward release, the only difference is the whole race toe(18) moves upward whereas the 14 has the full action toe piece where only the two lips go upward. Because both have full 180 degree multidirectional release. I might be getting confused, just wanted a second clarification on the topic.

[@SkiEssentials]

Yeah, that wasn't as clear as it should've been. Yes, there is still upward release on the Pivot 15 and 18, it's just a lot different than the 14 and 12. That's come up in other comments, our apologies for the confusion!

[@RimzH]

Will a Tyrolia attack 13 95mm brake fit a 102mm width ski? Asking due to a sale, they don't have an option for the 100mm brake. Also, what are your thoughts on the Head Attack 2 13 GW binding? Cheers

[@natehollings]

yes, they should fit.

[@SkiEssentials]

It'll be tight, but they should fit. At worst it would just require a little bit of trimming/stretching.

[@TimTheMusicMan]

what's a good binding for trail skiing, tree skiing, small moguls, intermediate to advanced intermediate skier. 6' 180. Using a 156 Nordica Soul rider or Head Kore? 83-86 maybe. Looks like Im buying from you guys/gals.

[@SkiEssentials]

Lots of good options. Marker Griffon 13 and Tyrolia Attack 13 are probably the best value. SPX 12 is another good one, or Warden 13. You shouldn't need "more" binding than those.