2022 Gerber Dualforce vs. Leatherman Surge

[@robertmills4980]

I like to carry a leatherman ES4 along with the Gerber dual force. Because usually if I'm cutting wire I'm stripping it too. IMO as a maintenance guy the dual force is outstanding 👍

[@hvacbudget8600]

@@robertmills4980 Great tool combo!

[@harrydrury4734]

everyone likes the surge . it is built better . but for me , I like to be practical. I mean , I'm not needing to use a set of players that is only good for , ... pulling out splinters . the pliers on the dual force are , closer to a good set of real working pliers ! THE CHIZEL , THE SCREWDRIVER, AND THE FILE .... ARE MUCH MORE OF A PRACTICAL SET OF TOOLS . THE SURGE DOES HAVE A GOOD BOTTLE OPENER ON IT THOUGH .

[@Peter-uh3gs]

The comparison we were all waiting for. The T-Shank on the Surge is awesome and your mods for it are brilliant! Thanks for another great video :)

[@hvacbudget8600]

Thank you! The t-shank has so much potential!

[@MarcColombet]

I agree with you. The Surge is the best multi-tool you can have as EDC. I have been using it for 4 years and I won’t replace it soon.

[@dobie-at-home]

Wow! I came to see your review of the Gerber after having used it for a while, and lost track after seeing your Surge modification! I’ve seen a lot of Leatherman mods (as everybody else has probably seen, too) but in the ones I’ve seen, I’ve never seen anyone add wire strippers. Didn’t even think about that! Then it got me thinking, why the heck hasn’t the manufacturers thought about that yet! Of all the mods and add-ons, that’s the one thing I would love to see added by the manufacturers! 👍🏻👍🏻 Nice mod! It wouldn’t hurt them to make a tool, without the bottle opener, can opener, wood saw, and add more trades specific tools and save the others for the more outdoors specific tools.

[@hvacbudget8600]

Thank you for your kind words! I agree more trade specific tools would be nice but it seems like that isn't where the money is. Thankfully some Chinese made multi tools have some of these parts, like wire strippers, we can scrap from them.

[@TikkerLoS]

that t-shank wire stripper is brilliant, I'd be all over a more refined version of that

[@hvacbudget8600]

Thank you!

[@berzerkzero]

What if they came up with replaceable jaws. For example; slip joint, linesmen, wire stripper, and needle nose. I don't know it how it would work.

[@hvacbudget8600]

@@berzerkzero years ago Gerber had replaceable jaws in what they called the 650. That was a fantastic option unfortunately it now goes for hundreds of dollars and is no longer made. I love the idea of bringing that back.

[@josephodonnell4890]

Still have the original surge 2010, an amazing tool.

[@hvacbudget8600]

@@josephodonnell4890 Very cool!

[@papayaman78]

Ive had the wingman for 8 years. The tip broke so i fikes it down. The knife tip also broke so i mad it a tanto tip. The flat head screw driver broke close to the pivot screw not long ago. It been througuh and its still going but there areany things it cant do and i find myself looking for heavier pliers constantly. For light duty repetetitive work it is great because of the spring and the weight. But I havr upgraded to the Surge and it awesome.!

[@kimcokevin]

Being a moderate knife snob, they need to add a better blade steel option.

[@hvacbudget8600]

All the multi tool brands could do better. SOG tried to up the game with the Flash MT and Leatherman has the Charge with a better blade steel. But overall the multi tool market if fairly far behind.

[@Southernboy302]

I wish they made a dedicated electrician Surge. I don't need a can or bottle opener. The other screwdrivers are useless to me. But, I would like to have a 1/4 bit holder that folds out like the one on the Gerber. That would be way better. Definitely keep the scissors and the 2 knife blades. Too bad we can't customer order them. Cool mod tho.

[@hvacbudget8600]

I agree!

[@weldingrockandroll2197]

The free p4 has been great to me for the year I've had it! Pliars/wire cutters are great. Lot of useless tools on it that make great pry bars and screw drivers when you're in a tight spot. And a razor sharp knife!

[@richardsullivan1776]

I hope you find uses for the Dual Force around the house. I'm loving the Super Tool 300. I've been using it daily for a month, hard to beat the tool set, I'm still routing for the Dual Force. For the people like yourself who have the Surge, I'm sure it hard to find a rival competitor. LONG LIVE LEATHERMAN!

[@hvacbudget8600]

I agree the 300 is great. I'd like to get the 300 eod with exchangeable saw blade exchanger but it's pricy! The DualForce is a great tool but it's in really its own category. Not bad, just different and more job specific.

[@kennywheelus6857]

St 300 is nice,I fell in love when I some of the capabilities that the surge can handle within it's limitations of course, definitely love the t-shank adapter,also I can get scalpel blades for it to fit the t-shank adapter for a crafter blade or medical reasons,so I'd always have that blade razor sharp,I've found a awesome little ratchet for it besides the extender an the bit extender as well,so there is a lot going for the surge,I like the St 300 too,it's kinda like the surge big brother,I may get one just to have an switch out time to time,been wanting a charge plus tti too an possibly the ,k2 or k4, pretty nice one handed abled knives.

[@rudylacarl7975]

Yeah I don't even bother with the cutters on the dual force. I primarily carry it as my work MT. As an industrial electeician i mostly use my MT for back up on bolts and the flathead for opening up junction boxes and buckets. The surge is a good option and has a much more premium feel l, but if ima rock a leatherman it's gonna be the arc

[@rogaldorn605]

probably a different comment from the ones you are used to see but i wanted to share my story here in italy having/carrying multi tools or knives isn't really a thing, even for people who do manual jobs like electricians plumbers etc etc, i remember getting my leatherman surge at four years ago at 13 years old, and that tool always had my back, thanks to it i started working with my hands, kinda figuring out what i wanted to do as i went but no matter the material i was using or what i was fixing the surge always had my back, now I'm near my last year of high school as a mechatronics student, having worked in a couple of factories over the summer thanks to my school i had the chance to trurly prove my surge with everything the workplace threw at me and I'm glad to report it didn't disappoint, that tool will always have a place on my belt forgive me if i made any grammatical error writing this comment (also the bottle opener saw alot of use opening beers for the machinists... just saying)

[@hvacbudget8600]

Really enjoyed that story. I like to hear how multi tools have really helped in day to day life. You did an excellent job describing why the Leatherman Surge is so great!

[@rogaldorn605]

@@hvacbudget8600 thank you very much!

[@BassMaster.454]

I like the plier head shape on the gerber dual force

[@hvacbudget8600]

It is unique. I'm glad Gerber mixed things up and brought this out.

[@AnonYmous-cf2ci]

I just made a kydex belt caddy and carry them both together with extra bits and saw blades.

[@hvacbudget8600]

That's very cool!

[@AnonYmous-cf2ci]

@@hvacbudget8600Thanks. I am doing a review of my EDC over on my dystopian horror/post-apocalypse survival series channel. It might interest you to see it. Super convenient and fun to use. Kind of feels like a fidgit dealy when you click in and pop out the tool. The Channel is called the Norcom Union, if you would like to see it. I'll post it either today or tomorrow. I put my EDC together after imagining what the characters in my stories would carry in the wasteland to survive while doing their jobs. I got a bunch of weird and interesting stuff out of it that I put in my EDC.

[@edgaraquino2324]

Good review & mods, thanks!😊...the Surge, I think, has more capability in the trades...the Gerber might more of a general, all-purpose multitool....may I suggest you perhaps consider refurbishing your sheath? Nothing looks & feels better than a well-used, well-conditioned leather sheath...😊

[@hvacbudget8600]

I definitely need to fix it, LoL!

[@hanselito2416]

I'm convinced this video and your wire stripper edition is the reason the Leatherman Arc doesn't come with a t6/t8 bit.

[@ricardocastro5944]

Awesome Mod on adding the wire strippers I am thinking on adding the same one my self. Great video!

[@hvacbudget8600]

Thanks!

[@jared8530]

Wire cutting aside I think the Dual force will be perfect for my line of work I dont mess with electrical wire at all if only they would release an American made Dual Force....

[@hvacbudget8600]

I'm glad this looks like it fits your work. It would be nice to see US made agreed.

[@thomaspolley4977]

Yes! Wire strippers! It's an important function that seems to have been forgotten. I think it's time to retire the can opener/bottle opener and include a better wire stripper. The surge has been my number one multi tool since 2008. I'm on the second generation now. I like the replaceable wire cutters, but I feel like the cutting surface is just a bit too small. You really have to focus to get the wire right on the cutting surface. Sog has a wire stripper blade you can buy for $12. It's designed to fit in their multi tools. You would take one blade/tool out and put the wire stripper in its place. I want to buy it and see if it can be made to fit the leatherman surge.

[@hvacbudget8600]

I agree! I have the SOG stripper tool but I'm a bit on the fence about it. I'll try to do a video on it soon. I really wish Leatherman would make some dedicating Wire stripper blades or plier heads like the ES4 again.

[@kennywheelus6857]

Only thing is I really wished since this tool is up there with the Sr 300 that at least had a 154 cm main cutting blade or s30v for the price,but no worries I now how to resharpen,it just would've been nice to have a blade to last on edge retention longer,just saying an probably bump up the serrated knife as well,I do like the draw knife grind but I also like the version they put on the free p4,you can use it like a scraper tool,but also that's what the awl is capable of too an package opener.

[@hvacbudget8600]

You are right. Many others wish the Surge had a bit better blade as well. We'll see if Leatherman ever upgrades the knife. We can always hope!

[@kennywheelus6857]

@@hvacbudget8600 ,yeah I agree,I'll keep my fingers crossed an hopefully Leatherman will listen to people an make a blade affordable to order in the steel you want,but also they have a new multitool in the works,can't wait to see what it is,I'm going to blade show 2023, maybe I'll get a sneak peak an post a small video on KZbin for all of us multitool lovers.

[@hvacbudget8600]

@@kennywheelus6857 Nice. Sounds great!

[@kennywheelus6857]

@@hvacbudget8600 ,ry

[@kennywheelus6857]

@@hvacbudget8600 , first booth I'm hitting is pathfinder 1243, corporal Kelly

[@disabledarmyveteran]

The problem that all of the multi-tool manufacturers are having is innovation because you can only do needle nose multi-tools for so long before their customer base stops buying the same old same old, thus the new duel force wide pliers. I just ordered my duel force after they came back in stock after being out of stock for awhile now. Thanks for the review

[@hvacbudget8600]

Very true. It's nice to see something different!

[@XRPtheStandard58900]

The way you start the video you say the Gerber couldn’t get the pvc job done due to the glue, yet you don’t specify how the surge would help either

[@davidjaski6003]

Super cool! Which razor model did you mod to fit the surge?

[@hvacbudget8600]

I bought off ebay a #3 scalpel handle which was surprisingly tough to grind down It came with #11 and#15 scalpel. I found it for $4.

[@davidjaski6003]

@@hvacbudget8600 thank you!

[@craigversetti5700]

Great review on both tools !!

[@hvacbudget8600]

Thank you!

[@monkeylife2318]

Hello sir, for good wire cutter/ grimper you should look for a dedicated Knipex tool's.

[@hvacbudget8600]

I do have dedicated Klein wire cutters, crimpers. I like to have some Pocket friendly options as well.

[@annabarone9956]

How can I contact you?

[@hvacbudget8600]

[e-mail]

[@kennywheelus6857]

Wow,I have an love my surge a few months of owning it,a fellow KZbinr told me about on eBay what number scalpel blades to order that'll fit the t-shank adapter,I'm getting them,also I picked up a box of 12 blades of different ones like wood,an all purpose an hacksaw for like 14.00,there not Bosch bit they are the Hart ones at Walmart,work pretty good,had my doubts if they'd fit,ok so that Kool tool you have on your surge ,can you do another bit slower video showing it off,I like the look of it,I am thinking about getting a charge plus tti as well,I had been hearing Leatherman has gotten a new design coming out soon.

[@hvacbudget8600]

Thanks for watching! I'll have to do a Wire stripper multi tool comparison video coming up.

[@kennywheelus6857]

@@hvacbudget8600 ,ok Kool ty,yeah I barely got a glance of it,after reading the comments an found out what it was,that's pretty damn Kool,see I like some of sog,but some of their knife blades suck an steel isn't as good as Leatherman 420,or some of the their tools are in the handle scales, depends on which you get,an on has a spring assisted blade,but do like the extra force of the pliers gives you with those little gears,what if Leatherman had something of their own like that.some tools like Gerber center drive,the cutters suck,if they had made them 420 or 154cm an where you can rotate them if the got dinged up,then that would be great in my opinion an have a nice knife blade,made in America,then I think Gerber would have something.

[@AbarajameLabanyera]

@@hvacbudget8600 but... The surge comes with wire stripper

[@hvacbudget8600]

@@AbarajameLabanyera It does but for small gauge wire the notch doesn't work very well.

[@ricky7112]

I just recently watched the texas tool crib and see now OED cutters fits all one standard size am thinking of encorperating into my surge for cleaner wire cutting. My wave just sits thire lol p4 a fidget toy I've come to the conclusion st300 & surge my fave surge just wins out of all my multi Tools I used to edc the 300 for yesrs untill surge & bit kit 👍

[@hvacbudget8600]

Sounds like you've got some great tools!

[@ricky7112]

@@hvacbudget8600 I just went mental one point in my life when I came into some money years ago mate lol lost the style love the juice Cs4 skelitool don't use much love the prybrid omg knipex wrench game changer wiha precicision driver cool also love mixing in the wara tool check Pluss stopped buying edc gear as gets mad lol all the gear no idea ie now stuck between edc maxpidition beefy or vertex 2.0 😂😂😂😂👍

[@hvacbudget8600]

@@ricky7112 Very nice!

[@ricky7112]

@@hvacbudget8600 tell you what is nice mate them mods you did to the blade exchanger seen some cool mods but wow them wire strippers lol you might be onto some thing thire that's talent you could make them for a living different tools for the exchanger only be like that company that made a ferro rod for Swiss army knives?? 👍👍

[@Rumple-p5n]

Well sir I'm going to have to disagree with your review Leatherman is not competing with Leatherman Leatherman number one competitor is Gerber seems to me you were nitpicking on a very good knife that I have. And I have had no problems with it it does everything I needed to do and then some. You like Leatherman better than Gerber and you're one of them dudes who try to get other people to buy what you like because you don't like something else grow up I like Leatherman better so I don't want nobody else to buy a Gerber I like all knife makers because I like knives in general and I think everyone does a good job give props when they're needed

[@captaindan37]

3:20 I see what you did there (slow clap)

[@dualsportoutdoors]

Scrap both and grab a Victorinox Swiss Tool

[@xlilnetx]

Cool mods for your surge

[@hvacbudget8600]

Thanks!

[@ChanceChelios]

Of course you compare it with the shitty Leatherman, yoi could of at least paired it with the Signal.

[@Mikey-ym6ok]

You’re comparing the surge with a gimmicky survival tool?? 😂😂😂

[@davidjacobs828]

I've recently decided that pliers based multi tools are just a gimmick. I now carry a victorinox ranger ,knipex water pump pliers, knipex needlenose combination pliers and knipex co bolt ,mini bolt cutters and a picquic multi bit screwdriver. This kit makes EVERY multi tool seem like a child's toy by comparison.