2022 Honda Foreman vs 2022 CFMOTO CFORCE | CFMOTO vs Honda Comparison

[@christianandrews5986]

So I'm gonna be honest I've had a 500 and I just got my 600 this past summer and the CF moto brand is probably one of the best things out there. It's why I'm going to buy A Z950 this summer

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Wow that's awesome Christian!! You will love the 950

[@christianandrews5986]

@@RealTalkPowersports any advice for what I should do to help me with the hard sticky mud I run in up here in ny and Canada. Have had a lot of 4 wheelers this will be my first side by side

[@RealTalkPowersports]

@@christianandrews5986 well that sticky gumbo mud is hard on anything and everything.. id recommend ITP Cryptids

[@christianandrews5986]

@@RealTalkPowersports getting those on my 600 and testing them out

[@suppeeps5393]

Chinese junk

[@djtexicano]

Picking up my orange C Force 500 today after work! Pretty excited! Your reviews helped me with choosing it....thanks!

[@RealTalkPowersports]

I'm glad to hear it Danny! I know you will enjoy it

[@FANATICALSIDERIDER]

We just purchased 2 cfmotos back in October and the price point and reviews I heard on this product is what made my decision. I have 1200 kms on my zforce 800 and I'm really happy with it.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Awesome man!! 💪

[@Me2crzy]

I just bought a 2023 cfmoto 500 2 weeks ago n they gave me a 3 year warranty on mine. I absolutely love it

[@kapi480]

Your CFmoto won't stand even a year, in Poland they can't survive a 1 winter there are a lot of people that had it and it was the worst nightmare

[@pushnook]

I own the CF Moto 600 touring 2 up, and took a 9 hr hard trail run through near anything that be thrown at you, it performed amazing, thankful of my purchase. And to top it off these bikes come road ready with all lights signal , brake, flashers backup etc.

[@alexmccaslin4340]

I’m getting my CFmoto this Saturday and I could not be more excited!

[@RealTalkPowersports]

💪👍🙌

[@travisshanafelt5587]

Got my son a '20 600 CF, it's taken a year of a 16 year olds use and abuse with 0 issues. I was skeptical at first but it's been great. Makes my '17 570 Sportsman seem 20 years old.

[@potter2980]

I just got a 22 cforce 600 it handled the mountains in ky like a boss and came with a 3 year warranty

[@TwinTurboToyota]

I’ll take the Honda

[@Ajaxaxxess]

All day, that cfmoto wil be absolute junk in 5-10 years, the Honda will still be running perfectly for another 20 years.

[@katherinelandon646]

Our 2001 Honda Foreman is great. Has 7,500 miles on it, not much for an ATV almost 23 years old. Will still be running years from now. I hope our 2021 Recon will last just as long.

[@Ajaxaxxess]

@@katherinelandon646 my 2003 Rincon 650 has just over 9K miles. 20 years old and still tough as nails.

[@Dylanmccutcheon747]

For resale as well after 5+ years it will be hard to get anything out of a cf, they just aren’t proven yet like Hondas are.

[@ИванИванов-ю9к2ь]

У меня yamaha grizzly 700, как автомат Калашникова😂

[@brewers-country8903]

We bought a Cforce 600 and a 1000 and love them both. For what you get and for the price it cannot be beat. No issues with them so far. I know the new 2023's have a 3 year warranty. That is incredible.

[@kristofertheman]

I've heard nothing but good things about these ATVs, but brand loyalty is strong in this kind of market. I recently purchased a Yamaha Viking, as well as a Rubicon 520 deluxe for the simple reason that I've been riding Japanese quads and dirt bikes for a long time, and I've never been left stranded. After watching your video I had a look at prices on these cf motos and I was impressed. I just find it hard to spend that kind of money on something I'm unsure about.

[@derekbelcher6885]

Same here

[@marvinnewton3031]

How are they after using for about 5years

[@randykestner3870]

I keep hearing about CFMOTO I looked into one once but I'm still a Honda guy one thing I've got to say my Honda has always got me home on anything we rode through. My Hondas have only been in the shop once and that was just one of them my other ones have never been in the shop for mechanical reasons that's why I went Honda and no belts worry how about but I do believe Honda needs to step it up and put winches on their machines but I don't care what you ride just go out and have fun!!!

[@boondockersaint6199]

Got a honda foreman 400 we have abused for 25 years. That thing just refuse to die. I enjoy riding that thing more than my brother' S new cfmoto 500. Never tried the newer hondas though

[@thereaper3575]

I have a 96 trx 300 that's has been bullet proof also have a 2001 trx 450 and a 22 trx 420 all of them are freaking awesome and have never left me stranded. Buy once cry once you get what you pay for

[@patrickcurram9763]

Exactly

[@richardlovato8980]

Cfmoto is trash 🗑 quality is 💩 and customer service is twice as 💩 💩

[@paulwuzhere]

I wanted a Sportsman but out the door on a 570 EPS touring with steel wheels was almost $13k. I got my 600 touring for WAY less. Main street cycle was great to work with

[@jasonblack6059]

Nothing is worse than Polaris.

[@andrewstewart3655]

Bought my 2021 CForce 600 in September could not be happier with it plus I think it's more comfortable to ride than a 570.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Awesome

[@Brianhahahaha]

A dair comparison would have been the honda rancher 420 4x4 vs the cfmoto 500

[@roberthaver6841]

We All Needed this My Most Watched Friend on KZbin

[@gregschulties6020]

I just bought my first cfmoto yesterday. 2 years ago I bought a brand new sportsman 850 and absolutely loved it,my whole family bought new quads. After not quite a year later we decided to get turbo rzrs instead because our wives weren't the most comfortable on some of the trails we rode so we sold all the quads. Its been 1 year with the rzrs and I miss my sportsman from time to time for small projects around the house. Since I have recently considered buying another quad for yard work I considered the cfmoto, then I found your chanel and after watching many of your videos I knew I wouldn't be making a mistake buying a cfmoto so I pulled the trigger yesterday on a 21 cforce 400. You sir have earned a new subscriber. Thanks.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Awesome Greg! I'm glad I could help!

[@DCSPORTSTER]

I agree with you too a lot of features for the money. I finally broke open my wallet and bought a new C force 800 2 up orange. Just picked it up today with a KFI plow on it. At 63 I decided to quit using the snowblower and try a plow. Plus now me and the wife get to go trail riding in the summer. 15 weeks till the trails open in Canada.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Awesome Mr White! Just always remember to use low gear when plowing..

[@DCSPORTSTER]

@@RealTalkPowersports thanks for the tip. I have been enjoying all your videos and your maintenance tips on how to service and maintain the ATV. I do all my own maintenance and repair on all my things. It has been very cost effective over the years to repair my own things and you know it is done right.

[@piquat1]

@@DCSPORTSTER Hows the snow plow working out?

[@ccf500]

I’m getting my Cfmoto back Monday after clutches are rebuilt. I wore out the stock ones. I Love my Cfmoto, I ride it hard. Cfmoto is going to get big eventually.

[@patrickcurram9763]

I honestly love em

[@jeffcollins7611]

Already in the shop don’t sound good I got a 2003 Honda 350 with 8000 miles on it and it has never been in the shop just changed the oil and air filter and ride

[@ccf500]

@@jeffcollins7611 it probably doesn’t help that I got water in the belt box and didn’t properly clean it out

[@joel-gf1xm]

So the belt boxes leak on them also ?

[@ccf500]

@@joel-gf1xm No the belt box is sealed tight. I went in water that was too deep and the water pushed up so high that it went into the belt intake. Or maybe it went into the exhaust of the cvt. Either way water went into a pipe it shouldn’t have and rotted my belt

[@thereaper3575]

With inflation and shipping and everything it's more like 8k that's why I bought a honda rancher lol I also have the peace of mind knowing my honda will last a lifetime

[@josephmelson7591]

Good video in your opinion how do the cf motto belts hold up vs the Polaris belt systems that's one reason I like Honda no belts to break or down time fixing belts ..

[@rscranman2002]

I bought the CFmoto 500 last month to help plow our driveway with our snowstorms. Love it overall but the shifter gets stuck quite often. I can get it to shift by rocking the machine forward and backward but after plowing for a few minutes, it is almost that the shifter gets stuck in L or R. Any fixes for this?

[@froochie123]

You make very good points. I've spent 2 to 3 times the money on having Honda outdoor equipment but its getting tiring. Recently I bought two honda clone generators when I realized I could 3 times the running watts versus a similarly priced Honda. Using the same argument for these bikes is valid.

[@DaveK68]

Just bought z950 two weeks ago because of your reviews wanted the 2022 model because of upgrades but couldn’t wait.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

😎💪

[@curtissmith8789]

I think the reviews and videos being put out are making a lot of riders look twice. I think lots are hungry for info on CF moto and you're providing what potential buyers and owners are looking for. Im in the market for a s×s . The Z950 is looking good. Keep on keeping on.

[@chrispinch3416]

I bought a 2023 left over and it has 123 km on it and has been in the shop 3 times already, hasn't even seen a mud hole yet

[@oceantri]

I have that CForce 500 in Orange. Love it!

[@RealTalkPowersports]

It’s a great ATV

[@drumsjh151]

I'm really happy with my 600 touring!! Although my 4x4 is not working. I hear the relay clicking but 4x4 will not engage. Any thoughts on what could be causing that??

[@camaro1568]

Ya just recently delt with that myself on my xc 800 it was the electric servo motor on the front diff changed it my self works again

[@Actias1974]

@@camaro1568 umm....but you are happy with it? come on

[@jeffcollins7611]

Yeah the problem is it’s not a Honda

[@drumsjh151]

@@jeffcollins7611 i would never buy a Honda ATV......

[@2017Toy]

Thanks for the great video

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Thank u

[@olivermeier2949]

Not knocking cf moto but when it comes time to trade or sell you will be happy you bought the honda

[@PinkOrangeProductions]

Love the honest review man thank you!

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Thank you!

[@sandylocklear967]

We have a cforce 500 2021 and a cforce 600t they are very dependable we love them both.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

💪👍

[@scottkeppler9151]

I have a 2021 cforce 500 as well love mine , my first atv at 45 .

[@marklarson9436]

I have a 2021 800xc. Love it. I'm resisting the urge to buy the 1000 Overland as my machine is paid for. If it came with the 2up seat I'd probably trade up and take the beating from my wife! Keep the videos coming!

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Awesome Mark! And you can get the 2 up seat. They can ship them to you at MSC

[@marklarson9436]

@@RealTalkPowersports Yeah I saw them on their site. Might have to quick being cheap and just do it. I'll send picks if I decide to pull the trigger!

[@davidterry8527]

Awesome comparison video man ❤️

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Thanks brother

[@tomk8312]

Why is the tow rating so low on the cf? Similar hp rated machines from other brands have 50% higher ratings. Something doesn't add up

[@jasscarborough]

Picked up a cfo 600 today and loving it . Can't beat the price point. Coming from a user who's spent 16k on top of line Polaris and it spend more time in the shop than riding

[@StrateTrippin]

How long have you had yours? I've have a brute force and and a sportsman, but getting a new one is crazy expensive now compared to yours. We just had a dealer pop up and gonna look here pretty soon

[@jasscarborough]

@@StrateTrippin I've had mine for about 4 months so far and really impressed with it so far. I'm having to purchase 4 -fourwheelers and not wanting to pay 10k per. I've had top of the line Polaris and broken them in the first month . I'm going to wait a few more months but I plan on buying 4 more CFOs. Been trying to buy used but I'm not paying 4k got a 20 yr old fourwheeler

[@StrateTrippin]

@@jasscarborough here in Texas the oldest CF i seen for sale used is a 2016 and they go buy fast. The 600 is a really nice bang for buck so I was definitely gonna look.

[@jasscarborough]

@@StrateTrippin I meant used Honda or other brands. Yeah man I don't think you will regret picking up a 600 . We have really enjoyed ours

[@darrellmcquay9808]

That’s the problem it’s a Polaris

[@JakoHindman]

You sold me I’ll stick with Honda 😅

[@thecanadiangrill1715]

In 10-20 years from now, I'm wondering if that CFMoto still be as reliable as the Honda? Hmm....guess we'll have to wait and see.

[@richardnear4160]

I'm just gonna keep running my Honda rancher 420 4x4....2012 model year👍

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Haha I don't blame ya there.. its paid for I would assume.. run it till the wheels fall off. Then you can come get you a CFMOTO

[@richardnear4160]

@@RealTalkPowersports I don't wanna have to do payments again

[@jonhathaway2537]

@@richardnear4160 you dont want taht garbage anyway. go get a grizzly or a canam. sportsman.

[@richardnear4160]

@@jonhathaway2537 can't afford one right now

[@mikegust5648]

@@RealTalkPowersports haha its a honda buy 1 and your good for life ! You get what you pay for

[@Johnrider1234]

We will never leave the 520 rubicon

[@billbarry2984]

I have a 2022 Honda Rubicon 520 Deluxe, cost more for the size of the engine compared to some other brands, but it's the best that money can buy in my opinion!!! Wouldn't have one of those Rice Burners ever, JUNK in my opinion (The Poor Man's ATV)

[@patrickpoticher756]

We went and got a CForce 800 and the ZForce 950 after watching your videos. I hadn’t heard of the brand before then.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

👍

[@curtissmith8789]

I think that goes for many people. I've heard of them, and I know they have been around for decades. They are huge in Europe and they have been evolving for the better. I'm lucky enough to have 2 dealerships close to me in central Pa. Inventory is low like most around here, but they will trickle in.

[@peragestorsve1816]

Was looking at honda before i bought my cforce 600/625 here in norway, my dealer has both brand but against cfmoto the honda look old - fashioned if you ask me , now planning buy my second cfmoto this time a uforce 600, i still gonna have my cforce 600/625 the cforce is better using a snowplow around the houses and small places, thank you i became a cf moto man 😊 you has been good help in my decison to wich brand to buy

[@alfaradiation]

The main concern with cf moto when talking with people is long term durability. But we already have riders here in EU hitting 20000km/12000miles and still going strong. I have only 2100km/1300miles on my cf1000, and couldn't be happier with it. Even rolled it once. No plastics were broken or cracked, the frame stayed intact. The plastic only bent and scratched, but not cracked. So I can say that the materials chosen and built quality is top notch.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

👍 yes time will prove to the world that they are durable

[@bryanpool6914]

I just picked up a 2022 cf moto 600 last week so far by far best machine I've owned and looks stunning

[@HesterEdition]

We get the joy of comparing Honda's to the CF-Motos everyday as there is a Honda dealer down the road. You can basically get a C-Force 600 TOURING 2 passenger for the price of a bone stock, stripped down Honda 420 ES, with 80's tech in a new wrapper. 80's tech Transmission, solid axle (I mean come on man!) Mechanical DRUM brakes in the rear, (in 2022?? Really??) 24HP!! Yes 24HP, the 500S shown in this video is 38HP, that is what the Rincon 700 (675cc $9,999 MSRP) puts out! Then you add the IRS, aluminum wheels, 6 ply aggressive tires vs cheap 2 plys on the honda, winch, 2" hitch, High range and Low Range CVT, digital everything, push button everything, man it's like getting a LOADED Ferrari for the price of a Ford! You honestly can only compare them in the fact they have 4 wheels and an engine :). Another good vid Blake. And I will all day long put the durability and build quality of the CF vs the Honda all day long. The Honda dealer down the road really does not have a service department (very small dealer, around 2,000 sr ft dealership), and I can tell you we work on more Honda's then CF's, and we move several hundred ATV's a year, so CF dominates the market in ATV's around us for sure, no excuse on "there are more Honda's out there" around us. Ultimate test of durability, put Ranch hands that don't care on them lol. Just lay out the facts and it's a no brainer purchase for the customer.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

👍💪 right on the mark John!! Keep up the good work!

[@poppymonroewild]

All 2022 Honda Rubicon models come with independent rear suspension not just the deluxe. Warranty is a year. Not sure this info is really that accurate.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Yes the Rubicon trims come with IRS but even with the base trim of the Rubicon it is $8,799 and that does not include powersteering and you also get regular steel wheels on all of them besides the $9,999 deluxe model..

[@RealTalkPowersports]

So yea its still a very large difference..

[@highlandsoutdoors2041]

@@RealTalkPowersports yes it includes power steering all Rubicon's in 2022 are equipped with EPS Lowest model Rubicon for 2022 is the IRS EPS, only thing the deluxe models have that the base dont are the alloy wheels and powder coated A-arms

[@rolexr]

What a price difference - and imagine you put a Cforce 1000 here against the Foreman 500 head to head, the Honda would appear like a child!!!

[@baort]

whats the name and address of that atv park? it looks cool

[@Baxton234]

awesome video love the cfmoto train

[@SuperXs1100]

I just got rid of my sportsman 850 EPS and bought a 1000 overland. Can easily say I'm glad I did because the seat is nicer, suspension is a huge upgrade over the sportsman, and the factory clutching is like the clutch kit I installed on the sportsman. The only thing I added was some heated grips👍

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Man that is awesome to hear

[@georgemullin7772]

I bought a 1000 cforce it's a beautiful machine I'm Canadian from new Brunswick Canada we no our quads cfmoto is coming fast in the inside lane.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

💪💪💪

[@lyndonhamby7432]

That CF looks pretty sharp

[@RealTalkPowersports]

💪

[@piuslebouthillier]

Is it sold in Canada thank you

[@mzondi1970]

I've watched your channel since it's inception and almost bought a CF Moto but I bought a Honda Foreman yes I paid a little more but it will be worth more than the CF Moto when I do get another Honda that's a guarantee. I've never felt the need to have power steering to me that's something else that can break. Same with the live rear axle never needed independent rear suspension behind the will hook up to anything and just pull the hell out of it. I'm a Honda person always have been yes I'm a little biased but it seems like this channel is biased towards CFMOTO. Not saying neither or bad but facts are facts you get what you pay for

[@jasonblack6059]

EXACTLY!

[@reubenmassey8324]

I'm a yamaha person . Bought my 600 grizzy in 2001 . It has 12000 miles on it 1st time to have trouble with it this year Feb. It lost ignition. Put new parts on it and I'm back up and riding . I love this machine , it's a beast . And this channel does seem biased towards cf.

[@murphslife6481]

I'll take the honda. Much better resale value.

[@vapingwithjames3370]

I love my cfmoto 500 my only complaint is the front suspension is a little stiff but I believe I can adjust the springs in front otherwise it’s absolutely a fantastic machine. Great video

[@kapi480]

I think your CFmoto is now in the junkyard

[@PerezAlberto89]

Hows your cfmoto doing?

[@mikeruffo6462]

Personally.....I don't want to give my money to a Chinese company for an atv

[@jonhathaway2537]

they're cheap for a reason remember that as well.

[@jeffcain3756]

Blake, I was wondering when the ZFORCE 950 is hitting the show rooms, There's 4 major dealers that are selling CFMOTO here in Tucson Az and none of them have the HO

[@RealTalkPowersports]

It will be after May before any dealers get the new HO

[@HeyItsAsmus]

Did you guys do a video on the cforce 600 grease fittings by chance? I want to make sure I'm not missing one.

[@alexx_97]

Speaking facts right there!

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Thats Real Talk bro

[@freed14760]

Music is on point!!

[@RealTalkPowersports]

💪😎

[@mattneily5507]

Hey Blake, I know this is somewhat unrelated to this particular video. But I've been looking into the Cforce 500 quite a bit. I watched & commented on your 2022 redesign video of the 400 & 500, however here in Canada, the "2022" model Cforce 500s are identical to the 2021 model, doesn't look like we got the redesign. Can you shed any light on that? Was the redesign for the 2022 model year USA exclusive or no?

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Matt I honestly don't have a clue.. I would have thought that CANADA would be getting the same updates. But maybe it will come in the 2023 lineup for yall.. shoot none of the American dealerships are getting the 2022 redesign until April at the earliest I think

[@franknapolitano9144]

Is the Build Quality and Longevity of the CFORCE Engine the same Build Quality and Longevity as a Honda ATV Engine ?

[@1t1gd]

No sir electronic issues

[@normality3848]

Had my 625 eps for a year now. (U.K.) I’ve had it over 50% bogged down in a peat field and got it out on my own. I’ve had it in water (fast flowing too) halfway up past the foot wells and crossed that river twice with ease. I’ve towed a 9ft wide flail mower and reduced 5 acres of bracken to mulch with ease. I’ve towed trailer fulls of rock, logs, gravel, earth and compost up to 750kg with ease. Then, if the sun is shining, I’ll take it for a poorly to the beach as it’s perfectly road legal. I’m done with other overpriced offerings, CFMoto has nailed it. 🎯

[@normality3848]

Poorly should read Pootle.. 😜

[@josephpennington7853]

Currently have a Cforce 600 and zforce 800EX. Absolutely love both machines. Super excited for the takeover event and was bummed I couldn’t make it last year but no way I’m missing it this year!! See y’all in may!!

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Awesome!!! Cant wait

[@southerntide26]

Waiting on the 2022 models probably gonna trade in my honda rancher 420

[@randychandler6082]

Your probably going to regret it because there is nothing out there that will out last a Honda.

[@conmanumber1]

L.e.d lites saves loading up electrical system too. Stator problems are cut down too

[@davidcarpenter9231]

Awesome CF Moto is the one to go with I love my CF Moto 600 2021 model

[@RealTalkPowersports]

You definitely have a great machine

[@scottkeppler9151]

Love my cf500 2021

[@tylerthorne5980]

How hard is it to get parts and add ons for the Cmoto ??!

[@bernardbolton2317]

Already have bought a brand new 2022 CF moto 600 winch nice tires plow paid $7600 very nice machine I would buy another one.

[@peterlachance1333]

The difference is the Honda will still be going in 20 years, the cfmoto will be shedded scrap in a container back on it way to china, the quality of cfmoto doesn’t compare to Honda. Just looked at the small cheap tube frame of the mountain bike shocks. Don’t get me wrong they look have decent

[@exploringlifefam3274]

Will look at a cf tomorrow. It was between a 2007 Honda 420fe and a cforce 450s 2019… SAME price! I think the cf will do fine just pushing some snow ❄️

[@mzondi1970]

I would love to see two equal machines after 5 years and what the resale is on both of them

[@ronaldgrimmig6659]

I'm ready. The events not coming fast enough.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

💪🤠

[@CQReview]

Great Video! Thanks for sharing! There maybe a huge price difference between the two. I own a 2018 800 CFORCE 2 up from new. Nice machine but will never stand up to the Honda for longevity. Cheap plastics, metals and welds. Great for starting out in the sport but still have a ways yet to be on the same playing level as the other big name brands. :)

[@dearbulls]

But is cfmoto as reliable? I've had good experience with Honda motors, but my friends in China saying cfmoto doesn't have a good reliability

[@stevenshelp1107]

Ive been out of quads for over a decade so this brand is new to me... thank you for the informative review, Hondas never been bad, looks like they just got complacent though and did not improve their product at all. Not a bad thing... until competition shows up. I may pull the trigger on a cf 500 or 600, want a yamaha grizzly but theyve gotten to be way too expensive for their outdated engine and performance.

[@timdavison2417]

We bought a 500 this summer, and ended up trading it for a 21 600, and boy i can say its a very nice machine! rides good and very enjoyable!!

[@theirishaxe9405]

Honestly i almost went with cf Moto in 2017 when i bought my Polaris sportsman 1k sp. But cf moto just want quite there yet. But now when i go to trade in this year i guarantee cf Moto will be a machine i seriously consider. How is the front diff lock on the bigger c force 1000? Good diff lock is huge to my buying mindset.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Yes I agree and we have had Zero problems with our cforce 1000 in diff lock. It locks in and something is gonna move lol

[@dannymacey5353]

I have a 2021 cforce 500 s without power steering and my brother has the same Honda 500 and we both agree the cforce is a way better machine

[@Adiline164]

I agree with cfmoto being great value and certainly looks like a great machine , but the msrp is not the out the door price , from my experience every dealer doesn’t include the assembly and shipping price in that msrp, so out the door the $5700 ends up being about $7500 , that’s the only thing that bugs me

[@acash6570]

That is every manufacturer anywhere you go….that Honda loaded he was mentioning in the video at around 10k would probably be 12k or more out the door. That has nothing to do with cfmoto…almost all dealers charge freight and setup and tax.

[@geraldburmeister9637]

@@acash6570 my honda dealer doesn't charge freight or setup on anything over $3000. My son just ordered a foreman es eps $8449 and $75 doc fee. I don't figure ttl because everyone has to pay that anyhow.

[@713anand]

Cf moto price is out the door. I can’t speak on the other brands cuz I don’t know. My 1000 was listed at 9999.99 and that’s what I paid plus tax

[@franknapolitano9144]

Is the 4 Stroke Engine and Chassis in the CForce built with the same quality as the Honda ?

[@atvrepairsandmore2482]

I do not want to sound like I am hating because I know people have been happy with CF Moto but to me it is worth the extra money for a honda or yamaha. You are going to pay less for that Cf moto up front but as soon as you buy it new off the lot the value is going to plummet because the resale value is not as good. I also just can not imagine having to get parts for these things. It is not like the big brands where you go to the dealer and they have parts for reasonable prices. There are a few dealers but not near the support. If it is my money, I am already spending $5-$6k on a CF, mine as well spend a little more on something that is proven and no doubt will last and always have part support. Just my .02 for anyone looking into these

[@Johnrider1234]

We have had six rubicons. We work with them

[@jreed10291974]

When CFMOTO makes belt changes on the trail easy I will buy one. I would still choose the Honda buy once cry once. The Honda will last 15 to 20 years and 20k plus miles. I looked at the uforce 1000 and decided to buy a Pioneer 1000-3 base.

[@DCSPORTSTER]

Well I’m a Honda guy I got two cars and a pick up truck all Honda‘s and I bought a cforce CFMOTO 800XC it is a better deal. Honda is just not worth the money in an ATV. And I am a mechanic and I know how to fix them. And CFMOTO is very well-built.

[@chadsteele1]

To be fair, usually like your videos, but and im a neutral party, i think this wasnt a fair or even credible comparison. Price for sure there is a difference, but tires plastic, seating position, throttle response, handing, light output, accessoroes, payload, towing woukd have been a true comparison. Now that said i looked at cfmoto600 right next to a kawsaki 750, and there were some glaring obvious differences between the two aside from the 3k price difference. One is well built with proven reliability, the other is the new kid on the block. For three K id be willing to take that chance.....

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Yes I was more so comparing the features and how it is straight off the showroom floor. The performance comparison will come as soon as I can get my hands on a new Honda to make it apples to apples comparison. But I do not know of anyone close to me that has bought a 2021 Honda foreman.

[@zachdzurinda1298]

I’m surprised you diddnt use your new 2022 600

[@RealTalkPowersports]

I could have cause it is cheaper than the Hondas too and its EVEN BETTER

[@nickdismute6214]

I'm going with Honda it floats u can lift it an has way more low end torch

[@sponsors_not_included]

All stuff that will break in 10 years that Honda will still be running in 30 years…you do got me on the winch though it would be nice to get a factory for the Honda

[@mr1bienvenu1]

The Honda will last a lifetime and parts will always be available. 😮

[@bpriv4431]

I friend of mine has a 05 Rancher that still has the factory oil in it lol. It has been very abused and very wet. Honda doesn’t make the best ATV but they definitely make the most reliable!! Worth every penny because they literally last forever

[@cesarxenia1278]

Hopefully the CFMoto dosent go up on Prices is selling like crazy👍🔥

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Yes I hope they don't either..

[@hydro_rebel7741]

Even if they go up a little bit, still cheaper than the competition

[@nickkerr4979]

Just got a honda foreman 520 es eps and thay gave me 4yr warranty. And the honda will last 3 time as long soooooo

[@daltonrager1996]

What about parts availability Honda versus CF Moto I have a c-force 800 that has been in the shop for 2 months and is waiting on o-rings and said it will be out sometime in mid-February or early March I think Honda can get parts more available then see if Moto at this time.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Who is your dealer? Main Street Cycle never has to wait long for customer parts

[@daltonrager1996]

@@RealTalkPowersports Mike Johnson in Russellville Arkansas they have had my machine with less than 200 miles since a week before Christmas and said it will be Feb 15th before they get my parts. It's a o ring or something it has had 2 water leaks and the first time they rebuilt the water pump and then it started leaking again somewhere else and now I'm where I am now.

[@scottkeppler9151]

I bought my first atv ever last year at 45 a cf500, went to a honda dealer they wouldn't approve for a loan , the cf dealer approved me for the loan I have hauled logs used the winch to pull down trees it;s a great machine , for the price , its made in china but all atvs are made in china .

[@RealTalkPowersports]

👍 that is great Scott. I believe you will enjoy your 500 for many years to come

[@scottkeppler9151]

@@RealTalkPowersports Even though I'm not near you love your videos

[@curtissmith8789]

As far as manufacturing goes they are in partnership with KTM. There building some or all of the midsize engines for KTM. I have a 1290 KTM and I don't think they would partnership with a manufacturer that wasn't on par. They have built up a well deserved reputation that I'm sure they don't want to part with. I don't think they would pick CF moto by the dartboard route, they know something!

[@geraldburmeister9637]

Actually honda atvs for the American market are manufactured in South Carolina. Timmonsville I believe.

[@scottkeppler9151]

@@geraldburmeister9637 The Honda dealer I went to first, wouldn't approve me for a loan and Hondas don't come with power steering and a winch and a locking diff.

[@2017Toy]

I've never owned a Can-Am but that will probably be my next ATV probably a 570 Outlander

[@edwardcote1331]

better buy one right now.they stopped producing the 570.

[@Tipsandtricks9762]

My honda 420 come with a 5 year factory warranty when I bought it in 2016

[@jaredjohnson7097]

I’m gonna look this weekend at a cf moto 400 or a 500

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Yes if you can go sit on one and take a closer look that will definitely help

[@christianandrews5986]

If I can give you some advice take the 500 you'll definitely regret not having that added power. Plus the wench and the wheels just always make it look better

[@scottkeppler9151]

Go with a 500 it comes with a winch and better rims I have a 2021 .

[@scottkeppler9151]

@@christianandrews5986 I agree have a 2021 ,500

[@jackpeters9048]

I just bought a 2021 cforce 600 last fall...I like it...Good value....I've owned a lot of motorcycles and quads over the years...Now, let's get real...The cf moto is not the machine the Honda is...If they were both the same price, I'd take the Honda all day long...And I dare say, so would this cf moto spokesman...I bought my cf because at the time, it was all that was avaliable, and it appeared to be a good value.......Like I said, I believe the CF is a "good" machine....Solid and appears to be dependable....But if I had to circumnavigate the earth, with no dealer support, I'd take the Honda all day long.....

[@johnsunderland6228]

CF moto are awesome! They definitely have their competitors watching closely!! Did my homework on several brands, and I jut bought two CF moto 2022 The 600 for my wife and a 1000 Overland for myself. Awesome machines! With a standard 5 year warranty on power train best in the business. 👍👍

[@jasonrichard6286]

Are you still liking your 1000?