2022 Sao Paulo GP Race Review | WTF1 Podcast

Interlagos provided another banger as we had drama, a new winner, old rivals colliding, comeback drives and loads of overtaking!
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00:00 - Greetings 02:59 - Three Words Race Review 04:02 - George Russell's maiden Formula 1 victory. (Katy doesn't know what a Three Word Race Review is anymore?!) 08:08 - Is Mercedes officially back? 12:26 - Do you think that Hamilton pushed as hard as he could? 16:14 - Commercial: Betterhelp 17:40 - Matt: "Not A Penalty!" 25:25 - Who was at fault for the Hamilton/Verstappen incident? 25:55 - Tommy: "Poor team play!" 37:07 - Why, do you think, did Max not give the place back to Checo? 42:21 - Has Max damaged his relationship with Pérez? 45:35 - How did Alonso end up in P5 with that strategy? 48:54 - Why did the safety car come in when Yuki was still unlapping himself? (FIA rant) 53:49 - How can we get a 24 race calendar only at Brazil? 57:40 - ABCDEF1 1:14:37 - Predictions 1:21:30 - Final Thoughts

[@soundscape26]

Thanks man!

[@mckezik]

Thank you 🙏

[@InvertedFreeSolo]

You the man

[@CRAZYCR1T1C]

J

[@enexius67]

You are a god-send 🙏🏻

[@brianNJwatson]

Max earning the costliest 2 points of his career.

[@Reaz399]

Ah, and why exactly? Checo is easily replaceable. The guy is by far the worst driver out of the top 3 team drivers. Hasn‘t won a single race on merit and has never beaten Max in a race on merit. The guy should know his place. Max is a guy of principle and yesterday was payback for Monaco.

[@aliu67]

@@Reaz399 can you explain how he didn't earn Singapore win

[@Good_Horsey]

Gotta say one good thing that came out of this is how easily identifiable the most toxic F1 fans have become.

[@Reaz399]

@@aliu67 RB fucked over Max with his fuel. He would‘ve dunked 1 second on Leclerc‘s, Checo‘s and Hamilton‘s head with both aborted laps. Checo never wins that race if Max starts on pole, let‘s be honest here. No driver is as far off his teammate as Perez apart from Latifi and Ric. He‘s slightly above average at best

[@nicolasvillalba372]

@@Good_Horsey mate I heard/read literal death threats and heavy insults against Mercedes and Russell when they didn't swapped positions in the Netherlands GP. The most toxic fanbase is Lewis's just bc its probably the biggest. Don't let your Fandom cloud your view of reality

[@DaniMacYo]

A multiple F1 world champion Redbull driver refusing team orders. Now this looks familiar….

[@soundscape26]

In the Multi-21 race they were fighting for the win and valuable points... yesterday it was a P6 where one of the drivers had nothing to lose.

[@goldvisor]

@@soundscape26 in both cases refusing the team orders mentioned in the initial comment

[@soundscape26]

@@goldvisor Yes I know, but the stakes were quite different.

[@southerncomfort1339]

Its their Culture

[@angelica-ux8wh]

@@tamastoth7768 no they had team orders reinstalled by then. as far as i can remember, the only time we had banned team orders during that era was ferrari in 2010?

[@fifa22isshite90]

23:55 "either non of us are coming out of here or im ahead" thats literally that way verstappen has been his entire career towards literally everybody

[@ekafebrianita]

sadly, it seems like his dad did raise him with that kind of mentality....It certainly made him a racing machine and win championships, but at what cost? he will not be on top forever...some day, another young driver will take his place...

[@brickisland6353]

Sounds pretty much like Senna.

[@pots_83]

@@brickisland6353 and most other WDCs...you have to be a bit of prick to be a WDC in F1...nice guys rarely win

[@brickisland6353]

@@pots_83 So what does that make Hamilton? 😀 And yes, the guy that have won the WDC are all self eccentric pricks, except Nico. 🙂

[@twinkharrylwt226]

@@brickisland6353 no offense but lewis is also a bit of a prick.. not in the same way a max is or a vettel was.. even admitted himself he was selfish to glock when he won his first championship..

[@julietarodriguez1151]

Remember Checo's “lets get them” always gives me the chills

[@ACsPianoCorner]

Without a doubt the Brazil (Sao Paulo) GP was the best race of the season. The podcast is over 1 hour, so it’s gotta be the best podcast of the season.

[@nickname3128]

Did u miss silverstone?

[@bagginzhd1715]

São Paulo was certainly the best start to finish weekend of the season, but IN MY OPINION, Silverstone still holds the crown as the best Sunday race.

[@syndicategaming1668]

@@bagginzhd1715 brazil was super overrated. Silverstone was hands down the best gp

[@rhyd1109]

Recency bias it was a 7/10 race

[@soundscape26]

@@nickname3128 They were on par imho. Interlagos had the added bonus of a crazy qualifying and a great sprint race. The perfect weekend.

[@pitcrew8662]

Next season could be amazing with the top 3 teams all having competitive cars for the entire year I can’t wait.

[@Cherry-hl7iu]

Mercedes caught up after RB and Ferrari stopped devloping

[@Sem5626]

@@Cherry-hl7iu don't worry, red bull is already overspending on next years so they can cheat the win again it will be another dud year

[@valer2359]

we said that in 2021 about 2022....

[@thomassoafo2837]

Max was clearly never going to make the corner at that speed. The promotion of Max’s dangerous driving is hilarious, nothing has been learned from 2021.

[@adamstansfield7554]

Please do the podcast late at night every race weekend because that was hilarious to watch 😂 especially at the end when Tommy explained a cinematic ending to Nicolas Latifi’s career

[@rishabhsachdev7349]

You all thought Peak Vettel and Hamilton were villains? You are not ready for Darth Verstappen my friends!

[@taz8808]

Nothing can match peak Vettel vitriol. No one could bring out the mental health card those yrs unlike now

[@GloomGaiGar]

Hamilton was nowhere near Vettel imo.

[@panther9594]

Verstappen is already a villain in most of the fanbase Both of his titles are tainted one with massi and the second with the budget cap And now his behaviour against perez

[@bycoxtax8562]

@@panther9594 the cost cap was for 2021, this title had no controversy, the perez debacle, that has nothing to do with the title, its more about the personality and poor education of verstappen

[@panther9594]

@@bycoxtax8562 ik that , but people don't think so I supported max for the last two years But he hasn't learned anything He is 25 year old but acts like a child who wants revenge Won't be surprised if Perez stops helping him in qualifying and races from now on Would love to see how max feels then

[@wbc362craft]

You guys will probably want to review the HAM-VER incident again after seeing Karun's explanation. He wouldnt make the corner at that speed, basically tried to stick the car ahead of Hamilton no matter what just like last year turn 4. Basically showing he didnt try to make the corner he tried to block Hamilton's way with his car

[@ArielGonzalez1]

yeah. probably race control based the penalty from the beginning of the curves and there is when it makes sense that max got it

[@Marcushalberstram749]

A bit difficult to extrapolate that he wouldn’t make the corner…after all the braking for turn 2 is done whilst turning

[@Gnrnrvids]

@Martijn Hansen yeah from my watching of it, he would have had no issue making the corner. He wasn't sliding or understeering.

[@julianschwertzthewoodlands4161]

Well...that and he admitted that he knew Hamilton wasn't going to give enough room before he even attempted the move. Hamilton had more to lose from the incident.

[@fallenshallrise]

No matter who it is any driver who makes a lunge that ends up in contact is getting 5s minimum. You can't have Max or Lewis or Charles get no penalty because you really, really like them a lot. Who makes the list of who is exempt?

[@Mik1604]

Ferrari finishing 3 and 4 with both cars suffering severe setbacks means they have awesome race pace.

[@Mebsuta]

... No. It means the race had 3 safety cars and they managed to pass Checo due to the safety car greatly benefitting Carlos. I'm Spanish and I have no problem admitting as much. You tifosi people are delusional most of the time.

[@pots_83]

Bruv...Ferrari finishing 3 and 4 is loss...they had 12 laps at the end right behind the Mercs and at no point did they challenging for the win

[@jackgenewtf]

Can't wait for Max to show up for the Mexico GP 2023!

[@BasicBodThor]

If Checo ends up in P2 in the championship, it will all be forgotten...now if he loses out by say 1 or 2 points..well that's a different story

[@JuanRuiz-gh7xh]

Hé is gonna pay in Mexico 2023

[@jackgenewtf]

@@BasicBodThor Oh, I'm not sure I agree. I don't think the Mexican fans are going to forget or forgive. Even if Max gets disqualified somehow, and Checo becomes WDC, Max will never feel safe in Mexico again.

[@xyz-du2lh]

no they'll continue to worship him

[@rottieshepcalibre9156]

Cartels ⚰

[@fernandogutierrez4868]

Checo basically gave Max his 1st world championship in Abu Dhabi last year with an amazing defensive drive. Max can’t even return the favor, so sad to see as a RedBull fan, even more upsetting as a checo fan!

[@fernandogutierrez4868]

Great win by Russell ! Well deserved and best race of the season by far

[@Milkywayboy]

Checo helped him win the last race yes He in no way gave him all the points that came before

[@hallamhal]

@@Milkywayboy yeah but Max and Lewis went in on equal points, and there's enough controversy over Max's win as it is at 2021 Abu Dhabi

[@fernandogutierrez4868]

@@Milkywayboy All those points wouldn't mean anything if Lewis Walked away with his 8th driver championship. I just hope this doesn't crush the relationship Checo and Max have. I love this duo !

[@eveningstar1]

no, Michael Massi gave Max his first WC

[@thebeanbox14]

Slightly disappointed no one mentioned the Lewis and Max incident being like for like for Ocon and Max a couple years ago. Max tries to fight Ocon for trying that move to unlap himself then does the exact same move against Hamilton. Racing Incident but how did Max not see that coming 🤣

[@sashahellemans3942]

Mate Ocon was laped and tried unlap himself, booth situations are not the same

[@Wixey2]

@@sashahellemans3942 no it’s not the same. Max did not need to race Ocon, he got he deserved

[@weserio]

that set the tone for Max selfish ways race, that greedy fuck

[@fallenshallrise]

In F1 what goes around comes around. Exactly the same move, same track, same corners, same weather.

[@taz8808]

@@fallenshallrise same weather?? It was wet in Ocon's case. What are u on?

[@andrigtmiller]

I think at the end, Lewis was on used softs that had 3 more laps on them, because of pitting earlier. We have yet to hear if he had damage that was effecting his pace, but that may have played a role too, but I tend to think that having those tires with a few more laps on them was probably the bigger factor, if indeed there was some damage to his car that effected performance.

[@Uglyweezer]

He did say in the post race presser that he had damage. It obviously wasn’t significant enough to completely ruin his race but I think it was enough to make getting the win basically impossible

[@Dam_Noir]

It was actually George's tyres which were 3 laps older (2 laps older after pitting the lap after Lewis) but Crofty got his wires completely crossed on that one, then again that's nothing new when it comes to him 😂

[@sniperkuzi4083]

How did Leclerc get a B? He should have gotten an A atleast. He got screwed in quali, punted down to last and came back to fourth ahead of Max and Checo. What more could he have done to deserve an A?

[@akorthouwer]

well win the race those rating are arbitrary with a bias the the faster cars.

[@Felix10games]

Why is Max acting like a spoiled 12 year old. How can Red Bull fans even like him after that? After everything Checo has done for him and he can't even give him a few points. No respect or honor!

[@AndreiGrigorean]

Dude Checo crashed in Monaco on purpose.

[@Tea-vf9gh]

@@AndreiGrigorean OK and?

[@Axel22250]

@CrispinBell thats smart are you serious ur hating on lewis because he decided to make a smart financial move and ur comment has nothing to do what he said

[@mannedi8665]

You haven't seen the Lewis-Nico era have you. Most likely not Seb-Webber, Schumacher-Barrichello, or even Senna's time. Also Max is just 25. Have you seen how drivers like Lewis, Alonso, and others were during their younger years? They are just the same as Max.

[@Axel22250]

@@mannedi8665 still unacceptable

[@mariomarkov743]

Why no one mentions that Lewis had damage from the Verstappen crash, and even with this damage he still managed to keep up with George, maybe without it he gets the W.

[@7evensabre]

Thanks guys. Haha I have been messing around on KZbin waiting for this

[@7BD273]

George's maximum point weekend was absolutely amazing and it's a shame that his faultless races are overshadowed by the petty Red Bull drama. Yeah he made a mistake in quali but his first lap was good enough for P3. Then he raced Max brilliantly for the win in the Sprint. In the Grand Prix he aced the start, aced the first SC restart, had great pace, controlled the race, aced the second SC restart with Hamilton right up his gearbox, and didn't make a single mistake in the last 11 laps, and kept Lewis out of DRS. And also got fastest lap. What a dominant performance

[@titancheat]

People will still find reasons to discredit him. No doubt. Plus he managed to pass max during thr sprint. Not an easy thing to do

[@lukasralys6096]

@@titancheat beautifully may i add

[@sgt.pepper5078]

and still people voted hamilton for dotd

[@aaronedwards4953]

The petty RB drama would be irrelevant if people stopped making a deal of it. People (media and fans that hate RB/Max) make it a drama.

[@chantalvanhoof6082]

Im sorry, but its the 'fans' overshadowing with petty drama, not Red Bull, not Verstappen. You all. You are all focusing on an ugly moment of 30 seconds (which btw all humans have now and again- nobodys frealing perfect) rather than any other part of the race. You also prefer to mention it in your comment rather than writing solely about Russel. Man, people are just petty in general. This didn't show Verstappens true colors- this showed all your true colors by suddently claiming Checo a hero who has to race for himself only. Who seriously believes the utter bullshit going on in f1 world now. Nobody is a saint, please stop pretending to be one.

[@creekboi7]

I also agree on it being a racing incident, BUT I do think the nature of the track made that move questionable. He was going to get the door shut like he's done many times himself. Max said it himself, he saw the collision coming.

[@nickmanhota324]

Max should have pressed his brakes, guys a fruit cake.

[@lainiw4kura]

if you see a collison coming you should back out lol

[@lainiw4kura]

@@mikko3 he saw it coming because he was going way too fast for such a tight line, was always going to into him

[@mrtruth5192]

@@mikko3 He went into T1 with massive over speed, and a huge late brake (which was the only reason he even got along side Lewis. This over-speed compromised his entry into T2. (The FIA document confirms this). As such he wasn't even entitled to racing room. Because he had to brake much harsher into T1, he had much less traction on exit than the Merc. Hence why Max lost control of his car when attacking the Kerb of T2. Ultimately causing the contact. To make matters worse for Max. If you draw his natural racing line from his onboard at T2, it relies on driving through Hamiltons car to make the corner. If you draw the same line and move Hams car another metre to the left...it still goes directly through Hamiltons car. Proving, even if he didn't compromise his exit/ entry, the move wouldn't have been on anyway. But the kicker is, Lewis didn't even need to leave any space, because max wasn't entitled to racing room (due to his previously mentioned compromised exit of T1/ entry of T2. Max even admitted to seeing there would be no room, but went for it. That's Max's fault. George tried the same move on Max, George saw Max closing the door, George backed out. This is what Max should have done. One final reason it was 100% Max's fault, again comes from Max's own mouth in 2018. When he was racing against Ocon. Ocon did a carbon copy move to Max. Identical to what Max did to Lewis on Sunday. Everyone (including Max) rightly agreed it was Ocon who was 100% to blame. Just like this weekend Max was 100% to blame. You can't have it both ways.

[@KarvidSR]

On the Ham Ver incident, I think it's all on how Verstappen wouldn't make the corner in a controlled matter. And imo it was Ver who even made it all happen with the divebomb. Idk the telemetry and Palmer will probably post a good video.

[@matt_dobson0614]

@@gmarz9611 But imo (and I think this is the point OP is making as well), if Hamilton had left space for Verstappen to pass, the trajectory and speed that he had through the corner would have meant he ran Hamilton out of road on the exit. Listening to Katy read the FIA rule, it seems like that's what Verstappen has been picked up on and why he got a penalty. Fwiw, I don't think he should've got a penalty, pure racing incident for me.

[@kityhawk2000]

@@gmarz9611 According to the stewards the telemetry showed them Verstappen was going too fast to make the corner and this is their reason he got the penalty.

[@nono-mu9rw]

the way you just gloss over the fact that max said he knew there wouldn't be space but decided to do it anyway

[@KlavarRecordings]

He said he knew he would turn in and if he did Lewis would lose more so half expected Lewis would think the same

[@Euclides287]

Should Max find himself in a close championship fight with Mercedes next year, he better not count on Checo doing him any favours. Least of all blocking Hamilton again.

[@matiasbiondolillo5217]

I mean... last year Verstappen had to fight 2 Mercedes at every race while Perez was recovering from a P8 in qualy

[@emilioivanjimenezlopez5798]

@@matiasbiondolillo5217 And the years before he had to do that while his teammate never even stepped on the podium, and before that he was too busy crashing with his teammate, while in 2021 even with not too much consistency Checo was there when it was vital, and more importantly never said no to an opportunity to help Max, no matter what position he had

[@xyz-du2lh]

@@matiasbiondolillo5217 no bottas always let him through without resistance

[@gelmir7322]

I remember when Max was whining about not having an effective team mate that could help him everytime Lewis and Bottas doubled-team him. Checo only started last year in Red Bull driving an unfamiliar car which was notorious for being very difficult to acclimatize (as demonstrated by Gasly and Albon). Max found the team mate that he was looking for on Checo. And he repaid him with a petty revenge stunt.

[@gelmir7322]

@Martijn Hansen lol wtf Even Max and Horner acknowledges the fact that Checo contributes to Max championship last year. Hell thats practically the reason why they signed him in for another two years. Toto Wolf even admitted in multiple occassion that Perez going on a long endurance stints was a threat that disrupted Lewis pit stop strategy leaving him vulnerable to Max's overcut in races like Paris and US. Considering how close the championship was last year. Perez taking the first place in Baku while forcing Lewis to commit a major mistake which left him pointless could have the determine the championship even before Abu Dhabi.

[@baksatibi]

Nobody seems to remember that Checo was told by his race engineer if they are in the same positions at the end they will swap the positions back, so he just let Max pass him to chase Alonso and Leclerc. I'm pretty sure Max was told this too. This already have happened a few times this year at other teams, it's normal and drivers are expected to execute these orders without hesitation. It has nothing to do with what one driver did for the other.

[@TheUSDebt]

It does matter because Max would have passed Checo without team orders. It just would’ve taken one or two more laps

[@ArielGonzalez1]

max was told by horner (if i'm not mistaken, i was watching the race though) that if he couldn't pass alonso before turn 12, he had to give the position back... that's why the team were surprised too

[@janklas7079]

Checo did not 'let max pass'. Max simply overtook him.

[@foogattimcr8777]

Max fans are delusional

[@janklas7079]

@@foogattimcr8777 Well it's better to be delusional then to be a total whine ass because your fanboy lost 2 WC's already.

[@tanyasmith5977]

You picked my question!!! I'm in shock! Thank you! Only one more race with Seb and Danny Ricc.......its going to be emotional.

[@Scellie1]

It might be just me, but i was WAY more appalled by the audacity of Leclerc almost demanding Sainz give up p3 to him. THAT was in poor team spirit as well. I mean Leclerc wanted Sainz to give up a hard fought podium. All this drama and the only thing people talk about is "WAAAAH max was a bad team player" because apparently despite people bitching that checo was underperforming most of 2 seasons, Max only has checo to thank for his 2 WDC's. Because all of a sudden it's not the car, or the fact that there was always like 12 cars between max and checo.

[@Naindurth]

I agree 100%. I supported Perez because I speak native spanish as well, but really, Verstappen got sent to the back with damage, and a penalty and still managed to pass Perez. That's the whole problem, Perez is THAT slow really? wow

[@Yukari_MAiG]

I'm genuinely surprised (in a good way) Leclerc managed to get back to P4 despite that crash into the barrier.

[@mako4874]

The theme of the Brazil race was simply team versus team. Alonzo messed around with ocon and vice versa, Charles and Carlos and their controversial swap not swap. Max being a total jerk towards checo and finally the most polite of them all for actual first and second king Louis versus king George . it was a fascinating series of entertain battles this Grand Prix

[@tHebUm18]

Don't forget the Haas making the sprint grid sandwich with pole and dead last. 🤣

[@dani-mana]

Don't forget Stroll vs Vettel - "ok"

[@perfectfantasies]

alphatauri vs fia

[@Himmel.Himmel]

I remember seeing on Twitter photos of Lewis and George hugging after the Grand Prix and immediately underneath that was Max and Charles screaming at George.

[@josiahboatengmyrie]

I’m actually dreading Abu Dhabi I don’t need nor want to be reminded of what happened last year but I’m convinced that’s all they’re gonna talk about

[@lalalittle3900]

I doubt I'll watch it live. I don't have time to relive all of the nonsense from last year. I'll mute what I don't want to hear.

[@josiahboatengmyrie]

@@lalalittle3900 so basically everything

[@lalalittle3900]

@@josiahboatengmyrie Pretty much!

[@THFCJack1]

You couldn’t be more wrong about the max/Lewis incident. Max knew he was going to crash into Lewis (his words). Max didn’t make the corner himself and how many times did Lewis back out last season but you keep saying that neither back out when they’re in track together when apart from silverstone Lewis backed out every time last season!

[@koenarts8684]

And exactly that is what makes this an important move from Verstappen for the future. This way all can see that he hasn't changed his driving style in this easy season. So everybody knows he will still never back out and rather crashes than back out. This is going to bring him important points in the future when the championship will be closer. Just wait and see......

[@TheUSDebt]

Knowing someone will wreck into you is not the same as causing the wreck.

[@greenlantern7959]

Silverstone is exactly what Max did in turn 2. Going inside regardless of what the outside car will do. Lewis decided he was putting his car in that corner, and if max wants to turn in, so be it. Worked out for him, and it’s been the mindset ever since. Max has always been that way, and Lewis simply isn’t ever going to give him an inch ever again, if they wreck they wreck. Honestly could have penalized BOTH of them. Lewis knew full well that he was turning into a collision as much as max knew he was driving into one

[@patmath1000]

That's why he lost the championship. Not being able to defend the inside line.

[@chazzaswift]

I wonder if they will change their mind now the stewards released their justification as to why they gave max the penalty. Basically said that he tried to overtake in turn 1 by braking late, but didn’t manage to as Ham was still ahead. Meant he was going too fast into 2, didn’t try and brake and as he wasn’t ahead Ham is entitled to the racing line. Before this year, yes Ham would have had to leave room so would be 50/50 fault racing incident. But they changed it to stop them just divebombing with no intention of making the corner and then saying well we were side by side at the apex so I’m entitled to room. In the sprint George tried the exact move Max did but when he realised he wasn’t ahead in turn 1 and max was going to take the racing line, he lifted and got in the slip stream and tried again.

[@unthenner5519]

Fully agree. But I wouldn't hold my breath on these headstrong podcast types changing their minds!

[@winneyjr9861]

On a Monday?!! WOOOOO

[@powerofdreamx]

Max delivering Alonso level antics. Troll level 10 achieved.

[@bluedude6992]

It's funny when Alonso does it. It's disgusting when max does it

[@powerofdreamx]

@@bluedude6992 because el Plan 🤔🤫

[@areebsiddiqui758]

@@bluedude6992 Are you new to F1? Alonso just has a free pass to do whatever he wants. He could get away with murder and people would laugh it off. Just look at his fans somehow managing to put the blame on Ocon for Alonso literally driving into him in a straight line.

[@bluedude6992]

@@areebsiddiqui758 bro.. I'm not mad at you but read my comment again your interpreting what i said as completely the opposite from what I meant ....

[@areebsiddiqui758]

@@bluedude6992 I know exactly what you meant. I was being sarcastic.

[@thealmightyspoon957]

Something i haven't seen a lot of people say about the max/Lewis incident is the speed max was carrying on a compromised line, even with the space i don't think max is making that corner without contact, still borderline on the penalty either way

[@brianverduin]

I'm surprised they didn't notice/mention that. Max had so much speed into turn 2, you're right... there was zero chance he was making that corner even if Hamilton left him more space.

[@de4ds1ghtcsgo94]

Lewis still has to leave space. That means Lewis is causing it. Not max. If max punted him he should have gotten a DT penalty. But now it's fully Lewis fault.

[@thealmightyspoon957]

@@de4ds1ghtcsgo94 i agree lewis should have left more space, but at the same time if you're going for an overtake it has to be under control, going at the right speed for the corner max doesn't get along side and isn't owed space, definitely not full blame either way

[@chriscollins550]

@@de4ds1ghtcsgo94 Lewis doesn't have to leave space unless max front axle is along side Lewis front axle until then it's still the car infronts advantage and it's down to the car behind to make a clean overtake not the car in front. That's why max got the penalty for forcing a position and not avoiding an incident he could of avoided by yielding

[@daanbesselink]

@@de4ds1ghtcsgo94 it was just a racing incident, max could have backed of and lewis could have given max more space. Neither of them were willing to back out, so both to blame

[@hallamhal]

Ocon being nicer to Alonso than Max being to Checo - who'd have thought it!

[@Krishnakumar-wl7ih]

Haha... Alpine put an imaginary gun on the head of Ocon to stop him from being stupid. But, RB don't have the balls to do that to Max. Max would straight up leave RB if team would "order" anything to him.

[@klic4194]

The piece everyone seems to be ignoring with the Max/Lewis clash is the "under control" part of the regs. Max absolutely sent it and would not have kept it on the track with the speed he took. That's why the stewards gave it to Max

[@mikez2779]

not sure about you, but I am very uncomfortable with the idea of having some anonymous guy, sitting in a stewards room, and pretending he knows better how to drive a RB car than the bloke who won a championship title in it. Especially, this judgment is being done based on completely unclear and subjective rules - which means his ruling might be heavily impacted by his personal bias. Rules are supposed to be clear and here we got a penalty being handed solely based on an anonymous bloke saying this was too aggressive because he says so. you say he would not keep it on the track my question is - how on earth do you know? How many times we've seen Max was pulling moves that should not be possible?

[@kityhawk2000]

@@mikez2779 the stewards gave Max the penalty because they could see the telemetry and could see he took the corner too fast to be able to control the car. Whether or not you agree to that is up to you but they clearly explained their reasons

[@mikez2779]

@@kityhawk2000 which effectively means "anonymous bloke saying this was too aggressive because he says so."

[@sundaprograminglanguage8175]

@@kityhawk2000 mate, you just prove his point.

[@sundaprograminglanguage8175]

To be honest, I will blame FIA 100% for this incident because of the subjectiveness of their own rule. They need to make a lot more concrete and clear rule for basically anything. (especially the side-by-side rule. Adding word "significantly" within the "suppose to be rule" without any explanation about how significant is "significantly" is really stupid (same thing also could be told at "under control" part ). I even curious whether the one who makes this rule is mentally deranged.)

[@Timeforspas12]

C'mon Hamilton had the car ahead when they made contact.

[@BadTanLines]

I thought we don’t get these until Tuesday!! 😂

[@romster8469]

It was Latifi who gave Max his first title

[@ThatLaloBoy]

“It is not enough that I should succeed. Others should fail.” - Max Verstappen, Brazil 2022

[@divinedanni]

I think all podcasts should be recorded late into the night! This was amazing! 😂❤

[@slap_k_man1862]

dont know why but i find katie running to get a beer funny lol

[@salemsuljkanovic2067]

On a Monday?? Love that!!

[@ChristofferLund]

Best race weekend of the season deserves an earlier podcast release

[@Rodejong]

I'm 50+ and I will cry a few tears as well for Vettel! I am sad as well for Ricciardo leaving. I won't miss Schumacher and Latifi.

[@rishids98]

But he likes nutella 😩

[@HikrisDopl]

@@rishids98 that is true, very true

[@tsjawesome6289]

@@HikrisDopl perfect profile pic

[@nickhaines4000]

I love the quick podcast. But I like the original release time because it allows for all the info to come out before and can have a genuine discussion. Especially after a weekend like this.

[@MrPaulMerrick]

That Jingle was OUTSTANDING!! Well done!! 👏👏

[@NicheBurton]

Max just needed to remind everyone that he is the youngest in the grid... Mentally. A statistic he'll never lose, good job 'mate'.

[@d3al3rplays68]

Guanyu ZHOU is 2 years younger. Yuki Tsunoda is 3 years younger. George Russel is 1 year younger. Lando Norris 2 years younger. At least 3 are mentally younger and don't count out Stroll, he is about 10 years younger mentally.

[@yamanesgin]

@@d3al3rplays68 /s

[@thegrandplay1780]

Belittling the mental of a 2 time world champion and one of the biggest sport prodigies of all time because of an incident where he didn't let his teammate pass for 6th. I can not stress enough how ignorant you sound

[@yamanesgin]

@@thegrandplay1780 /s

[@jack_puffo4307]

@@d3al3rplays68 he meant metaphorically

[@jasonolexik1978]

If max says “I knew he wasn’t going to give me room so then we would crash” isn’t that him making the decision to cause a collision? And at the same time failing to complete the pass in a safe manner?

[@Dapper_Dad]

22:00 Matt just elated at the thought of Hamilton and Verstappen ruining each other's season for Leclerc's sake lmao

[@michaelg-l8786]

The end with Goatifi and his Nutella got me crying 😂😂😂

[@miosink]

No one talks about how good the tires looked on Hamilton car after the covers came off in the crash! Imagine transparent covers?

[@Bugatti024]

With the Max and Lewis crash, my only question is where was Max trying to make that move stick? He was going far too fast to make the corner cleanly regardless, was going to hit Hamilton even if he left him room because of his understeer going into the second part of the corner.

[@trixR4pimp]

The FIA release detailing the stewards' decision gives that same reason.

[@titancheat]

Russell restart left Hamilton vulnerable to max..bloody brilliant 👏. Seriously

[@Uglyweezer]

Yeah people aren’t talking about that but he 100% screwed him over on that start

[@brandonnarine2040]

Awww. Look at the sad Hamilton fan. Poor Hamilton can’t defend without a superior car. Your driver is dogshit mate 😂

[@xyz-du2lh]

verstappen not being able to overtake alonso..bloody brilliant. Seriously.

[@allaboutf1andstuff453]

How is Lewis coming under attack from Max George's doing?

[@Dam_Noir]

@@allaboutf1andstuff453 Acknowledging that Hamilton was caught napping on the restart would imply that he made a mistake. Some people believe Lewis is infallible, therefore it must be George's fault.

[@prohacvice9671]

As Matt said it was one of those daring tries coming round the outside..... Now Hamilton squeezed him. Ask yourself for real, if the people Verstappen race against would kind of force the issue the way he does, how many crashes would we have? Tired of people constantly giving him the benefit of the doubt. Yes he got squeezed, give Hamilton a penalty for that after Max has backed off.... No Max bulldozes through and that's supposed to be acceptable?

[@unthenner5519]

I agree. These incidents used to be called as 'sticking a wheel up the inside', 'half-hearted attempt', and 100% of the time the driver in Max's position would be blamed, for good reason. You can't just not brake for a corner and expect everybody to move out of the way, no matter what crazy line you're attempting to take.

[@JJfromIA]

The boys on the F1 announce team were completely dumbfounded and possibly offended for Checo when Max did him dirty, as were many of us. I genuinely thought Max had matured and really respected Sergio. What was I thinking 🤔

[@ArielGonzalez1]

max has always been like this... probably one of the reasons why ricciardo left too

[@fallenshallrise]

Max's behavior on track was a bit weird, super quick on those tires, but then getting on the radio and breaking the news that either his race engineer ordered the crash at Monaco or that Perez crashed on purpose, one of which is a race ban, one of which is a season ban. Truly bizarre.

[@panther9594]

Max is a 25 year old man with over 7 years experience but a brain of 10 year old who wants revenge

[@panther9594]

@@mikko3 It's hard to put a leash on a dog once you've put a crown on its head.

[@troyr3478]

Max is the younger grudge-bearing version of Alonso

[@allgomesareevil6121]

Or Senna

[@areebsiddiqui758]

@@allgomesareevil6121 Senna had his poor moments but he had principle unlike Max. He gave away a win to Berger in 91 to show appreciation to his teammate for his help that year. Max could never.

[@ekafebrianita]

it looks like he went that path... like at least Vettel was not this selfish when he was dominating...

[@jasonjansen9831]

@@ekafebrianita Vettel not selfish. You haven't watched a single F1 race have you?

[@oOGuArdeRKilVOo]

@@ekafebrianita MULTI 21 SEB!! MULTI 21

[@MegaTH1RT3EN]

Wee need all three of you on Sunday watch along, pleeeease!!

[@GabrielRodriguez-wh5ce]

great weekend even as a mclaren fan, idk if its just me but i feel like sainz preformance is underrated his pace was mad through the mid part of the race even if in the end he couldnt compete at the restart

[@Progcross98]

The moral of the Checo-Max story is: you can never fuck up at all ever because what if… you might have done it on purpose!?!? Sigh… imagine if Perez hadn’t crashed and Alonso brought out that red flag… maybe Max might have tried to slam into him or something as payback??

[@ekafebrianita]

it so scary that he hold grudges like this, looks like he ready to erupt any time!

[@MaioliRHCP]

Max would not have taken the corner within the limits of the track, just look at Sky's drone camera. He would be almost out of track in the end of that move. He was with half his car alongside Lewis, but tried to take the corner like he was alone on a qualifying lap that have gone bad in the first corner.

[@hotohori69]

Russell also had a water leak starting mid-way thru the race and they didn't tell him so he would keep going at pace and worry about it...but they didnt know if he was gonna make it to the end....

[@amrakunish5238]

ALO was very close to LEC, It was very risky to allow him to pass Sainz, maybe that was the reason for Ferrari.

[@JTLaser1]

Matt said himself that he “knew” they were going to crash. Max also said that they were going to crash, and you didn’t think it deserved a penalty? Yeah, “here comes Max, I’d better get the F out of the way!” So, why should we even show up to race?

[@ApaX1981]

What did he do wrong? He stuck it to the inside and got squeezed. Maybee he was to hot into the corner....but we never got to tgat point.

[@unthenner5519]

@@ApaX1981 That's like going into Montreal hairpin without braking then complaining that the others crashed into you.

[@ApaX1981]

@@unthenner5519 no it is not.

[@lynnroelke1688]

We will cry along with you Katy. Hopefully we will see them on the grid again some day, in some manner or another.

[@formula.meme.22]

Can't wait for the view in Abu Dhabi with Charles Leclerc......Safe Travels Matt and thx for the Tweet of the Week.

[@Drrolfski]

Even if proving is difficult, why Ferrari is not demanding a Monaco Q3 investigation by the FIA is beyond me. A possible disqualification of Checo in Monaco would have huge ramifications in the standings.

[@Milkywayboy]

I agree

[@missbond7345]

Ferrari was so busy in their blunders that they didn’t even think of this angle.

[@ArielGonzalez1]

i read on another comment that around that monaco, the red bull cars had a problem with the throttle and that max also suffered from it

[@BalanceXXV]

They are actually the ones who get the most benefit from Perez crash, and whatever happens after that is because of their own stupidity.

[@konigstiger3252]

Alonso crushed right after Checo. Wouldn't have mattered

[@sheld0nc00perpoker9]

That Verstappen fan grade is the best thing ever

[@stevelavergne2852]

As we now know, it was a bizarre sequence of events that led to Tsunoda not being allowed to unlap himself. The automated system worked as it should, but an unanticipated scenario screwed it up.

[@Gopher31]

Completely agree that a car stopped on or near track should be an instant VSC then deescalate from there as appropriate. So often we see a dangerous situation under yellow flags for seemingly ages before they finally call the safety car.

[@pinocchio4291]

I’ve always thought that most drivers are selfish and childish but Max blew my expectations out of the water. Somehow managed to be a worse teammate than Ocon

[@lorenzovanerven4610]

well whats your opinion on checo causing a red flag on purpose at monaco causing max not being able to finish his lap? that seems like a dick move to me

[@pinocchio4291]

@@lorenzovanerven4610 this is just a rumor. If it was confirmed to be true checo would be punished severely

[@Jonathan-mj1oe]

@@pinocchio4291 watch the telemetry, its pretty obvious. It also seems like almost every journalist inside the F1 Paddock new this already and wasnt anything new lol

[@pinocchio4291]

@@Jonathan-mj1oe if it was “pretty obvious” he would’ve been penalized

[@AbsoleteAim]

@@Jonathan-mj1oe Yeah because Checo would 100% risk his Gearbox intentionally for no reason...

[@andrigtmiller]

Max is still very immature. When you have been a formula 1 driver since your 17, and live in the bubble that he has lived in over the course of his career, it's not a surprise he is still very immature. This is an act that I would expect a 17 year old to do, not someone who is 25, and now a veteran of the sport. I think his life has been too insular, and he has had nothing but praise from his inner circle.

[@rakesh1pa2]

You can trim the podcast videos into small ones and a link to this one for who wants to watch full video in there descriptions

[@KingGeorge90000]

Drive to Survive gonna be spicy 🌶

[@wilseph1]

New specs for Katy Fairman.

[@DoggedJoe]

The Ham/Ver penalty was so clear cut, and I think most people are missing the point. It's not about the space being given or not, it's that Verstappen came in too fast and at an angle that meant he wouldn't have made the corner even if Hamilton wasn't there. He was only alongside because he fully compromised T2 by going super fast around T1. Going into T2 at a speed and angle that means you won't make the corner is dangerous driving. Doing it when someone else is on the racing line is absolutely terrible (ie. deliberately crashing into someone....). If anything the penalty should have been stronger.

[@JHydronix]

Anyway to get the video aspect of the podcast on Spotify???

[@andrigtmiller]

The way the stewards are interpreting the overtaking rule is that the overtaking car needs to have it's front axle even with the car they are trying to overtake. That's the way they are treating the "substantially along side" wording in practice. So, once Max lost that position he was going to be found at fault.

[@MajieB]

If in 2023 Checo starts acting out and ignoring the team etc hes gonna be in an Alpha Tauri faster then you can say Helmut Marko.

[@TheodoreMauros]

And who they get Devrys, Yuki or maybe Ric back? No way this is happening 2024 maybe

[@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm]

Oh, YT release already on MON? That was quick for an evening race. This weekend further reinforces my feelings, that we need to add Team rating too. Would be lovely to see how you'd grade RBC, Merc, Pranking Horses after this weekend

[@adamheddle430]

Talking about Abu Dhabi with checo. I was just wondering, imagine if you did race watchalong last season, it would have been hectic

[@WillowCreative]

ferrari explained they didnt want to risk giving up the gap to leclerc as sainz was under investigation for the sc incident for yuki. If he had gotten a 5s penalty and given up the gap to leclerc, ferrari would lose a lot more championship points to mercedes

[@tsjawesome6289]

My 3 word race review is What The FIA? This is mostly in response to them still not learning how to let lapped cars unlap themselves. I know it was a fault with the technical system when Yuki pitted but surely they can override it? It just seemed really stupid to have him stuck there when the cars ahead and behind him were able to unlap.

[@perfectfantasies]

him ending the race behind latifi was so unfair, the dude was like 40 seconds behind the whole pack

[@Desbugador]

Also, Hamilton closing the door on Verstappen, the FIA stating in the document that Hamilton did not give enough space, and still penalizing Verstappen, crazy

[@rdc5041]

For me the ham-ver crash was racing incident but I can see y max had the pen cuz he was going too fast to go tight round that corner and that’s what I’m thinking fia can see from telemetry and maxs interview backs that up. For me ham has to keep up this behaviour with max so that max knows he can’t just send it into half gaps and ham will get out the way like most drivers, and u can see this is starting as max said in the interview he knew the gap would close, so when there’s more on the line for max he would back out.

[@ribrob2798]

Magic Alonso!

[@joshuavandenbergh]

I tell ya what next seasons gonna be real interesting with teammate dynamics. Gasley, Ocon. Alonso who teammates with a payday driver who's dad owns the team. A possible rouge calros paired with verstappen. Then Mercedes young vs old.

[@kabuki7038]

"He screwed me, so I need to screw him back, that's unbelievable levels of pettiness" Tommy clearly never watched a solid season or two of NASCAR

[@kabuki7038]

@pc Didn't say it wasn't? Simply saying commenting on a driver being petty like that shows me Tommy isn't a regular NASCAR viewer. Fools will wreck someone for unprovoked for something they did three years ago.

[@andersonanthonyr]

I burned all my Verstappen t-shirts

[@Alex_Martin_]

On a Monday?!

[@tubadude07]

The song was epic

[@Razor921]

People forget that Alonso crashed almost immediately after Perez and would have redflagged the session anyway. Which knowing Alonso was even likelier to be on purpose than Perez's crash. The end result wouldn't have changed regardless of whether Perez did it or not, which makes the grudge even sillier.

[@joshn1678]

Exactly, these people have terrible memories. Checo isn't even smart enough to pull this nonsense, and he was only in p3, why would he risk destroying his car for p3?

[@anthonyfoster2784]

In Monaco Checo was only P3, could maybe stretch that theory if he was on pole. Leclerc the year before crashed and denied others from completing laps and look how that played out. Wouldn't have been worth it for Checo if he damaged his gearbox.

[@Spike-sk7ql]

22:20 Neither one of them needed to back out! They could have just left the damn space for each other, and they both would have made it through, and we would have seen a great wheel to wheel battle. It was shown possible to do that just a few laps later too.

[@BROWITT2010]

Yes Katy with the beer haha 🍻

[@ericrossoni]

Lewis: I’m so happy for Russell Max: F**k you Checo! Every man for themselves!

[@zulubunsen9067]

Okay, a couple of things. Apparently Verstappen's penalty was basically because the overtaking rules are just too strict and don't even take two-turn combinations into account. Yuki not able to unlap himself before the restart was because F1 completely automated the system to prevent an Abu Dhabi 2021 situation. But when he went for a pit stop at the start of the SC period he virtually unlapped himself somehow. The system then didn't allow another unlapping and race direction didn't bother to check if there any issues. Nice job there.

[@nickmanhota324]

What? Max was overspeeding into a corner could not make it stick did not have a racing line, steered into the racing line, hamilton only needs to leave enough room for 1 tyre on the track and one to the curb, max said he new they would crash but did not want to brake to stop han from winning in a interview, i don't know what to say about max apart from he is a POS to everyone and his team mate.

[@shohruhdavlyatov5602]

Bottas was stamped as 2nd driver for most of Mercedes time, but Lewis still let him thru when told... Max thinks hes bigger than the team.

[@Eline_Meijer]

Or...you are wrong.

[@syfax3697]

Drive to survive will be fire 🔥 🙌

[@pinocchio4291]

Maxs move on Lewis is literally the flip of what ocon did to him and max was ready to throw hands over that

[@Jonathan-mj1oe]

Yeah but max was probably not mad cause he made a "wrong" overtaking move, he was mad ocon made a move at all. He didnt expect ocon to make a move on the leader trying to unlap himself haha

[@Dam_Noir]

Ocon had no right to attempt that risky move when he was a lap down.

[@jagermanjenson3851]

Max further alongside and you know actually fighting for position. Ocon was a lap down trying to unlap, its totally different. 100% racing incident. I don't care what the stewards say. Max did some boneheaded, indefensible stuff yesterday but it wasn't for that move.

[@pinocchio4291]

@@Dam_Noir yes a risky move. So why did max try it. He knew he didn’t have the pace to actually keep that position and he knew Lewis wasn’t about to back out so why did he do it

[@Dam_Noir]

@@pinocchio4291 it's a risky move just to unlap yourself, not necessarily for racing position. That's also not taking into account that Ocon wasn't as far alongside either. I would prefer to see drivers attempt an overtake irregardless of any pace deficits, unlike you.