2022 TM en300fi First Impressions

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@virginianguyen9
@virginianguyen9 2 жыл бұрын
It's great to see an in depth review of the TMs. Beautiful bike.
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Stay posted I'm working on a followup video as we speak 👍
@neim78
@neim78 2 жыл бұрын
Finally an actual review of this bike! So hard to find solid info on the 22 TMs did yours just arrive? My dad is still waiting on his 300. He lives in Washington too
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
I got mine a couple weeks ago from Franks Motosports in Bellevue. Going to be riding the next couple weekends so should have an update review in a couple weeks as well.
@neim78
@neim78 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to more content on! Hoping my dad gets his soon. He ordered through Bosarts Offroad in Portland.
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
@@neim78 just rode some slow technical single track yesterday, the bike was amazing. The low end is superb. Suspension is a little stiff for slow stuff but eats up faster hits and bigger drops. Will upload a follow up after I finish editing 👍
@neim78
@neim78 2 жыл бұрын
@@dtr_downtoride Did your bike come with a manual? Do you know if the dealer needed to do any ECU updates to it? Just went and picked my dads up last night! What beautiful machines!!
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
@@neim78 no manual and the only thing the dealer said about the ECU was that it was a new one for 22
@matthewdipadua3463
@matthewdipadua3463 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2021 TM 300 EN Fi from BGR Moto last year, I had shipped to me in August. Was only able to get a couple quick rides on it. However initial thoughts are the bike is Amazing,. I ride in NH so waiting for the mud season to close so we can get back out.. Great Choice on TM
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
Just got home from a 40 mile poker run on Saturday and a 100 mile desert race on Sunday (The race is called Desert 100, it's in Odessa WA) the bike ran amazing, but the suspension was definitely stiff. Very happy with it so far 👍
@roostafish961
@roostafish961 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2021. I had all the same trouble. Adding a switch to turn the ECU on before you cold start your bike helps everything. My bike starts easier cold, starts in gear now every time, and doesn’t reset the power valve every time you shut off the bike.
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a video on how to jump/hot wire the ECU so it always has power. Did you watch the same video or do you have a link to another procedure?
@roostafish961
@roostafish961 2 жыл бұрын
@@dtr_downtoride no, I watched the dealer hook his computer up to my ECU to flash a new map and I said to myself, “self, that right there will solve a lot of problems.” And it did.
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
@@roostafish961 you planning to post instructions for the rest of us TM rider? 😆
@roostafish961
@roostafish961 2 жыл бұрын
@@dtr_downtoride I tried to post a picture of a simple drawing here. I couldn’t. I’ll happily email or text you one though.
@roostafish961
@roostafish961 2 жыл бұрын
The short story is to rig up a switch and supply ground and +12v to the red and black wires of the diagnostic port. I bought a connector (a bag of them) and have a neat little plug. Have done handlebar switches and rocker switches with this setup. I’ve sent them literally all over the world. I encourage people to build their own, but I’ll send you one for $45. We both live in the PNW, we should meet up and ride.
@sublime929
@sublime929 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same bike, picked it up March first. Haven't ridden it much yet though. Dave at Get Dirty Dirtbikes aka Cross-Shop is the TM distributor for the US. He's an excellent resource, parts shipping is two day FedEx (for the US). Some things aren't out yet since the bike is brand new redesign they had to be made then of course the shipping from Europe to California. We all know what the shipping has been like recently.
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I got most of my after market parts from Dave 👍 he shipped them very quickly.
@kevindwyer3742
@kevindwyer3742 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing more! Just got a 2020
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
Got another video in work. 👍
@Rieju-Sherco
@Rieju-Sherco 9 күн бұрын
I own the 2023 TM EN 300 carb bike, I think these bikes are the fastest 300 I have ever own!!
@cavanon
@cavanon 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing TM Racing content. How do you compare the fuel consumption with other brands?
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say it consumes more than a KTM/Husky, but not substantial more. With the large 3 gal tank I can ride for quite a while. I think the tank design makes it look like it's dropping faster than it really is since it drops down behind the cylinder.
@rippinaroundeverywhere9249
@rippinaroundeverywhere9249 2 жыл бұрын
Wondering how she clicks into neutral while running?..asking for the down hills rest the arm situation?
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
It finds neutral much easier than my Beta 390RR-S 😆 I hit it a bit more often up shifting too though. Not bad though.
@rideonenduro4700
@rideonenduro4700 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet bike!! Those TMs look so damn nice. Good choice👍
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Really happy with the choice so far!
@briantoddcorey
@briantoddcorey 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review - I have the same bike and my only real regret is the difficulty getting parts - speaking of, where did you get the pipe guard from? Thanks
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
The pipe guard I got from Get Dirty Dirt Bikes. It's for the 2021 but was able to get it to fit. I agree about parts. My bike has actually been in the shop 3 month waiting for a new wire harness. They sent the wrong one from Italy so had to wait for the correct one...
@boerplaas388
@boerplaas388 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful bike. TM produces awesome bikes.
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and couldn't agree more. Just wish their decals stayed on better 😆
@vasilisdedes5100
@vasilisdedes5100 2 жыл бұрын
It's a nice machine, enjoy it my friend!
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I hope to put a lot of hours on it 👍
@kylejc8642
@kylejc8642 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video! Are you giving it any throttle when you’re trying to start it? All the e-start 2t bikes I’ve rode fire right up with a little blip of the throttle.
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle, I've since increased the idle a bit, and noticed that it has no real issue when warmed up now. I've also adjusted my midwest lever a bit more too. You make a great point though as my brother has a TE300I and has said the same thing about his TPI. I could also be doing it subconsciously now too 😄 took it out for some slow technical riding and it did great, going to ride the D100 this weekend in Odessa WA. I'm excited to see how it does 👍
@kylejc8642
@kylejc8642 2 жыл бұрын
@@dtr_downtoride Right on! I have a few buddies that will be heading out there as well. Good luck!
@TheHemiphil81
@TheHemiphil81 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, I am interested in buying this bike and wondering how it would compare to my beta 300 rr.
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
I was on the fence between getting this TM and a 22 Beta 300rr Race Edition. The Beta wouldn't be available until June, so the TM was an easy choice. I really want to try the new Beta out though. Rick Larsen seems to really like his 21.
@williamferri3982
@williamferri3982 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input on the TM. I’m up here sitting on “the fence”. TM or Rieju?
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
The Rieju will definitely be a bit heavier. Everyone that rides this bike talks about the how smooth the motor is, and how linear the power delivery is and how it feels light. I would love to try a Rieju out to compare.
@williamferri3982
@williamferri3982 2 жыл бұрын
@@dtr_downtoride yep your right, I did read that somewhere. I always seem to put weight up top when I consider knobby tire rides. Looking forward to future info. on the TM. Thank you.
@Bastardchief
@Bastardchief 2 жыл бұрын
What elevation do you ride at? I just had a dealership tell me they won't order the FI 2T models because they have issues here (western Montana) also have you looked at the mapping possibilities for freezing temps, sand, high altitude etc?
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
So far most between 500-3000. The higher elevation trails are still closed around here. My understanding was the new FI bikes have temp, and air sensors in order for the ECU to make its own adjustments. I suppose at extreme elevation it could still be an issue. The nice thing about TMs are the ECUs are unlocked so you can change the mapping pretty easily. I haven't looked into mapping changes myself though, as it runs well.
@newmanonymity
@newmanonymity 2 жыл бұрын
I am in the same spot you were prior to your purchase! I want one, but am hesitant. Are you running a mix of race gas? Since you actually have a manual, does it list the primary and 1-6 gear ratios? I have been trying to get this question answered with no luck. I even have an email out to Ralf, the importer. What are the sprocket tooth counts? How would you compare the counterbalancer effectiveness to the Husky/KTM? I wonder if your battery was not quite fully charged when you brought it home and that was causing some of the issue. I do agree, more cranking amps are needed. Thank you for any and all help you can provide.
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
The manual I have I downloaded from TMs website. I don't think the official 2022 manual is out yet. My dealer said race gas was not required unless I was running WOT a lot. It sounds like many TM owners run premium with between 1/3 to 1/2 race gas. I added some VP Racing octane booster to my premium. We'll see how it does 👍 As for the battery, it's well known that the stock battery does not like the cold, it is extremely small and light though, but with less CCAs. Might keep the lighter battery for the summer months. I'll have to count the sprocket teeth. KTM might be a little smoother, but honestly it is very smooth and the power is strong but very linear. Both my buddies with TE300is noted the same thing when they rode it. I'll try to answer your questions in the next video. I appreciate your comment!
@newmanonymity
@newmanonymity 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I did figure the manual wasn't out since dealers can't answer the gear ratios question either. Was hoping you had that unicorn though! Edit: I figured out the gear ratios. For those that may care. Primary is 19/57, 1st is 13/30, 2nd is 16/26, 3rd is 19/24, 4th is 20/21, 5th is 18/16, and 6th is 23/18. Secondary is whatever sprockets you have. I used the parts microfiche to piece this together.
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
@@newmanonymity nice, stock sprocket is 13 and 49 also 👍
@cavanon
@cavanon 2 жыл бұрын
@@dtr_downtoride Nice to see TM 2022 content on KZbin. KTM or Husky are bikes 'ready to ride' TM's are 'ready to race' machines that's why they are more aggressive. Another thing to notice is the quality of TM is top notch. TM for example uses Excel rims while KTM or Husky you only see this type of rims on Billy Bolt Husky or Mani KTM and for normal consumers they just sell standard rims. TM all have a kick starter for example. Is your TM FI or carburetor?
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
@@cavanon my 2022 TM en300FI is the TBI fuel injected model. I agree with you concerning the performance and quality of TMs. I'm very impressed so far.
@castormotocenter1774
@castormotocenter1774 2 ай бұрын
A power valve , existe alguma coisa que possa fazer , a não ser o botão? Tipo uma rele automático?
@ktmkeith13
@ktmkeith13 2 жыл бұрын
I just got my first TM EN 300 it’s a 23’ model. Just picked it up today. I love the hand guard’s you have . What brand are they ?
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think they are just cheap Tusk guards with the stickers pealed off. The bar clamps are from a set of Acerbis though, as they gave more room for cables and clutch.
@samtoshner8002
@samtoshner8002 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't know you had a review up! Get him Daisy you tell him!
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
🤣 Daisy doesn't have a problem with any bikes, it's just when im riding. She was perfectly fine at the D100 with people riding all around. She's just protective of her dad I guess 😆
@mitchellpaterson7062
@mitchellpaterson7062 2 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about installing A capacitor to make starting a little easier that’s if it hasn’t already got one installed ?
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm going to steal the one off my Beta. I've noticed that as long as the bike is above 50 degrees F, it doesn't have any issues starting at all. Still going to install the capacitor though 👍
@mitchellpaterson7062
@mitchellpaterson7062 2 жыл бұрын
@@dtr_downtoride Yeah give that ago but it sounds like it could be an issue that needs to be addressed through a map update haven’t heard of the older TM TPI Doing this
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellpaterson7062 the mapping seems great. The only cold start issue it has is the starter free spinning when the battery is too cold. As for starting in gear, I rode like 5 hours on Saturday and didn't have any problems starting it while in gear. I think the main problem was that my Midwest clutch lever has a little drag when the bike/clutch fluid is cold. The clutch plates themselves probably need to wear is a bit too. Bike now has 7 hours on it.
@stangindude99
@stangindude99 2 жыл бұрын
How is the clutch pull? Is it a light clutch or stiff? Selling my te300i to get one of these I think
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
Jesse, the 2022 uses a 10mm and is a little on the stiff side stock. I've installed a Brembo 9mm master cylinder with an ARC clutch lever and now it feels great. I heard the the 2023s will come stock with the 9mm Brembo. The Stock 10mm with an MME lever feels pretty good as well, that is what I had prior to the 9mm.
@LedZep1616Fan
@LedZep1616Fan 2 жыл бұрын
Does this TBI system have the oil pump like in KTM's TPI? Or do you just pour premixed gasoline straight to tank? How does TBI work exactly?
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it has an oil pump. They moved the oil reservoir from the frame to a tank under the seat for 2022. I think they go with oil pumps on fuel injection as the oil can build up and plug the injectors. The oil reservoir lasts a long time though.
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
TBI (throttle body injection) have the fuel injection located where a carburetor would be. TPI (transfer port injection) has the injectors mounted on the head. TPI burns cleaner to meet EPA requirements, but lacks the low end power of a carburetor. TBI is kind of the best of both worlds, no jetting and good low end. Hear talks that KTM will switch to TBI as well, not sure if it's true though.
@HalfHourOfPower
@HalfHourOfPower 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it doesn’t idle high enough
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, the manual says to turn the (choke) knob to increase the idle. I've turned it a couple clicks, so it is idling a bit higher, but if I'm not mistaken, this knob is just richening or leaning out the fuel mixture in order to change the idle speed, Like on the KTM and Husky TPIs, this makes me a little hesitant to turn the knob too much. I'd prefer to not lean it out a bunch in order to increase the idle... is my understanding incorrect? Please let know if you have experience with TMs this is my first 👍
@neim78
@neim78 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there is a similar mod to the TPI husky/ktm bikes where you put in an idle screw. We did that to my buddy's 300 TE
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
@@neim78 I'm wondering the same actually. I adjusted the fuel mixture just a bit, and it is idling better. Would still rather have the idle mod screw like on the TPIs though.
@brucemorrison3563
@brucemorrison3563 2 жыл бұрын
Did you have to pre order this bike?Price not including tax?
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
I was lucky was at the dealer trying to decide if I wanted a Beta 300rr race edition or a TM, he dealer said that he had 2 TMs that had just arrived, one was spoken for but the other was available. Waiting for them the uncrate it and assemble it was painful. I think it was $10,800 before taxes.
@newmanonymity
@newmanonymity 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a '22 300en carb version. I didn't order it. A dealer about 2 hours away had it. $10,450 before taxes, with some add ons.
@sammyscrap
@sammyscrap 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Seems like it has a very smooth low/mid. Those MME clutch levers are hard to get perfectly dialed. I've noticed the one on my 701 seems to readjust itself over time. Probably needs more loctite on the adjustment screw.
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
The power is very linear on the TM. It is very impressive. I think this is most due to it having an electronic power valve vs a mechanical one. The power valve mapping also changes based on the gear the bike is in, which is very cool. As for the MME, they are a little finicky and the engagement point moves a bit depending on the temp of the bike. The set screw can move like you said as well.
@samtoshner8002
@samtoshner8002 2 жыл бұрын
@@dtr_downtoride yup definitely crucial to only adjust the engagement point when the bike is fully warmed up. That's really cool about the electronic power valve and gear based mapping - pretty advanced stuff, especially for a smaller brand like TM. No more swapping colored springs!
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
@@samtoshner8002 right!?
@jcsquared1111
@jcsquared1111 2 жыл бұрын
Is this TBI?
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride Жыл бұрын
Yes it is, the 2022 was the first year of TBI.
@tracybossola8351
@tracybossola8351 2 жыл бұрын
How's the weight compared to a Sherco or Ktm?
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
From my research prior to getting the TM, the Sherco is the heavier of the bunch. Husky might have it beat by 2 or 3 lbs, but the TM comes standard with a Kickstart as well. It feels very light though.
@mitchellpaterson7062
@mitchellpaterson7062 2 жыл бұрын
Supposed to be a little bit lighter but more balanced as to how much that is not sure lol
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellpaterson7062 I really like the way it feels in terms of balance. the TE300Is feel stubby to me for some reason. Was really lean towards the Beta 300rr Race Edition, but didn't want to deal with another carburetor. The terrain/elevation here in WA is all over the place and none of my friends want to wait for me to F with jets 🤣
@deltonecattivouaz
@deltonecattivouaz 2 жыл бұрын
A very beautiful bike
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@karolkorus7169
@karolkorus7169 2 жыл бұрын
Clutch pump 10mm?
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, brembo 10mm, but I put a Midwest Mountain Engineering clutch lever on it. The lever reduces pull weight and makes the engagement point larger.
@neim78
@neim78 2 жыл бұрын
I have noticed some drag with my Midwest lever as well. I have it on my 21 Sherco 300. I figured it was out of adjustment but maybe that is normal?
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
@@neim78 yeah a tiny bit seem to be normal for them, did the same with my Beta as well. You can probably adjust it out so there is none, but like my engagement point further in.
@mrvolts9262
@mrvolts9262 2 жыл бұрын
desert 100 was dusty af
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it was! Did one loop one the Ironman on Saturday and the full race on Sunday. Only brought one extra filter for the weekend, big mistake. My brother's bike gave up at mile post 70 due to all the dust.
@carloscantori4114
@carloscantori4114 2 жыл бұрын
Buena moto dos tiempos no sabe manejar no sabe acelerar mas ENDURO LE FALTA
@brianp9503
@brianp9503 2 жыл бұрын
Poor beta , on the old list .
@dtr_downtoride
@dtr_downtoride 2 жыл бұрын
Right? The Beta has been a great bike. We'll see how the TM holds up, it's got big shoes to fill.
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