2022 Trek Roscoe 8 Test Ride And Review | Try Before You Buy!

[@NiftysGaming]

Hey Matty i just want to say thanks for showing me the world of mountain biking you've been such an inspiration on my journey to become a better rider thanks so much.

[@MattyActive]

Thank you for the kind words, it means a lot. I really appreciate you guys being here supporting and watching the videos!

[@PatchyAdam]

Have the same bike myself had its 1st ride yesterday loved it handles like a champ even in muddy conditions. As far as the brakes go they get better once there worn in

[@thembp4sho]

I had a Marlin 5 and recently got a Roscoe 7 and loving it. Awesome video bro 👌👍

[@jimjr4432]

Love your videos. I've got an older model, NX, tires have smaller knobbier. Oh, mine is a 27.5. Love the dropper post. Now mine over lots of bigger than baby heads sized rocks, seems to bounce me a lot. I'm 5'10" and 79 yo now and really love it. OK, as to the 29er vs 27.5, I would respectfully disagree. My 29er's always feel very high, while the 27.5 is so much more nimble, corners so well and does not seem to fight me with inertial. Now that could be just be me at my skill level, but I'd say that 27.5s would be better for folks who have not developed turning skills to much. Oh, and on the trail I drop the seat post about an inch for the trail, then descending drop it more. Blessings, although this is too late for lots of viewers.

[@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862]

We are looking at getting 3 x Roscoe 8s with new frames. For our community hard tail bikes for at risk kids to rent for free that don’t have bikes👊

[@eggzackary1]

The Roscoe 6 still has the old geometry from the previous generation. The Roscoes 7,8 and 9 all have the new geo.

[@simonsays5979]

I ordered a roscoe 9 on 5/21/22 and got it 6/1/22. It is sick, definitely gonna take a little getting used to because the head angle is 4 degrees less that my other bike, 2019 giant fathom1 29er. According to my LBS, I am the first in Idaho to get one, I can't wait to get it on the trails

[@zzubuzz]

Paused at 3:08 to comment about that. I took my new FX out on it's first ride ever yesterday, I brought along Allen wrenches to make adjustments to the saddle height. I had to stop no less than 10x to slightly raise it:) Yes, it's a "feeling" as if it is too low, because I look at my knee in the down position and it's just slightly bent. Maybe I'm just not used to the dramatically more upright position compared to the road bike I've been riding since '91.

[@64beanm]

Hey! Thanks for the MTB short recommendation! I was due for a new pair, so I bought the pair you recommended and I liked them so much, I ordered two more pairs. By the way, my Roscoe 8 should be showing up any day now! Keep up the great videos!

[@guyver626]

Glad you listened to us and waited to try a M and hopefully a ML soon. The R8 is a nice bike. The brakes are decent. It’s the same brakes as my 2022 fuel ex8.

[@Nightkrawlr8]

Just picked up the m/l yesterday in ft Collins this is the bike!

[@williamroberge3696]

I'm a m/l but on this bike I just bought the XL and it fits like a glove

[@minihoog9327]

I picked up my 2022 Roscoe 8 after waiting 9 months for it! It's an awesome bike. Once the brakes bed in they're plenty strong. In my opinion Trek really didn't cheap out much of anywhere, A lot of companies would have thrown 2 pot brakes, and a smaller front rotor on there to pinch pennies, not to mention the stock Bontrager hubs on the 8 and 9 are really nice compared to most stock hubs. It would have been nice to have a nicer fork at the price of the 8, and I would have sacrificed the GX groupset to upgrade the fork, but the Rockshox Gold 35 will do for a few years before I decide to upgrade it.

[@MattyActive]

Nice! I’m glad it was worth the wait! What size did you get?

[@MrJebus76]

I completely agree with the fork, for $3200 au would've expected a Revelation at a minimum

[@marcusmcfall8167]

I'd reccomend a marlin 5 to most people who are just starting out. The bike is easily upgradable (or tradable) if you outgrow it and the gear set on the 5 is better than the 6 if you want to use it as a reliable commuter bike or to go bumming around town with friends. The 6 and up are great for beginner to intermediate riders because of the 1x but they aren't nearly as versatile as the marlin 5 with the 2x drive train.

[@kwaktak]

As somebody who came from a 26” hardtail that was one size too small I’d say go with a 29er in your proper size. If you’re between sizes then go toward the smaller size. As a beginner who wants to ride trails but also have something that will serve you on walking trails or commuting I’d say go with the Marlin 6. I don’t think even the current ‘22 Marlin 5 (which I recently bought my son) is really trail ready. You need that 1x with a clutch. You can always upgrade the fork to a Roxkshox Judy solo air for at least $200.

[@gcygnet8817]

I think a trek roscoe 6 is beginner friendly due to pricing and its easy to handle. Compared to a marlin, roscoe 6 gives more confident going down over small bumps and jumps. Big 29 wheels are less easy to manouver at lower speeds and beginners usually go a bit slower.

[@dannyturner7967]

Just put my deposit on this bike today. Same color in medium, that black turns green in direct sunlight. I am coming from bmx into the mountain bike world

[@MattyActive]

I love the color! My wheelie bike is the same color. I’m excited for you!

[@focogringo8182]

I have a 29er Marlin 6 & 29er Excaiber LOVE trek. Your new bike looks sick man congrats👊

[@kenetics1344]

Bike shops are only trying to sell the roscoe 6 to get rid of all the old stock frames. Wheel size is not as big of an issue as geometry and the fact that the roscoe 6 has 141qr.

[@glitchman3194]

I would like to see you try the Roscoe 9. You can put 29 inch wheels on your Roscoe 7. I have a 2019 Roscoe 8 and put a 29 up front to try out the mullet setup. I feel it makes it way better at jumping. Thanks for sharing. Enjoy the ride

[@MattyActive]

Thank you! Nice! I should try that on my 2021 Roscoe 7

[@ac-noco370]

Matty, don't know if you're still looking or you'll see this in time but there is an M/L Roscoe 8 at Trek Broomfield according to the Trek website this morning

[@thethoughtmaster]

I told you the sizes but if your knees are hurting you can get a shim and longer seat stem.

[@tracyellis7281]

What's Good Mat Act i also want to thank you for your very helpful and thorough information about the black Mtb scene.I just recently purchased a Roscoe 8 and I love ❤️ it keep it going your boy 🔥 Hot Shoe 24

[@mattj6676]

When they changed the geometry, they made it a totally different bike, so the distance from the handlebars to the seat feels different same with reach to the pedals, the length of the wheelbase, etc.. It's possible even that neither size will feel as good to you as the one you have, so it's good to try them all. You might need to go to a different kind of bike, or even changing the neck or handlebars can make it feel better, it's a matter of a few centimeters that we're talking about here, but it definitely matters as you know from experience. For the new rider, it depends on what they really want, if her idea of mountain biking is riding the paved trails out in the parks, then the cheaper bikes work better, if she really wants to ride offroad, or if she rides with other people who already do off road trails (which means that's what she'll be doing mostly) then buy the best bike you can afford and grow into it. Women have different needs for bike size, which is why Giant offers the Liv make and Trek has so many different sizes on the lower scale to fit women better. Bigger tires do make rollover easier, but the bike tends to feel bulkier and less nimble and if you're 5'2" weighing 100 pounds, the bigger bike and wheels might feel uncomfortable. Everyone is different, the best advice for her is to ride lots of stuff before buying!

[@MattyActive]

Yea I guess I forgot to mention she was about 5’9-5’10 I’m guessing. She made the Roscoe look small with the 27.5 and size M lol.

[@1911Zoey]

Holyyy. That's a beautiful hardtail! Glad you got what you wanted.

[@kenetics1344]

Should've brought the old roscoe along and did a back to back ride feel.

[@snowman22ism]

I still love 27.5 in wheels. 29s are nice but 27.5 on a hardtail is fantastic

[@jeffharbelll9091]

Just my opinion. Unless you have a long torso for your height, I would stay with the medium based on that saddle height....if that was your actual saddle height at the beginning of the video. I've read that a significant percentage of mtb riders purchase bikes that are too big. All only my opinion. Great videos!

[@winnguyen443]

Still learning about seat tube angles and head tube angles, and reach measurements. Do you think a longer stem would work if someone felt a bit cramped reach-wise on a bike that otherwise felt ok.

[@julianrime8544]

@@winnguyen443 I would try to test ride the next size up, just because a short stem is optimal nowadays

[@julianrime8544]

It has a dropper post and based on that being the low position I would defiantly go a size up!

[@marcusmcfall8167]

@@winnguyen443 don't get too caught up in the numbers and what people on the internet say. Ride as many bikes as you can and choose the bike that you feel the most comfortable and capable on. There's no need for any extra stuff

[@keithbell8960]

29er is definitely more forgiving and easier to ride, especially for a beginner

[@JeffRevell]

The difference in size between the M and M/L is only about 1/2'" of seat tube length. I find that it's not really tha much of a difference and most of that is negated by where you have your dropper post set to. If it's feeling a bit small you can always raise that dropper a little to give you the length in the climbs. The reach between the two is almost negligeable so I don't know that you will really notice any difference between . Perhaps it just needs a different stem and bar setup.

[@dillonmckenzie5526]

I had made trhe mistake in buying a roscoe 6 and wanting to upgrade the rear hub, only has 120mm travel 10 speed cassette. i brought the bike out on trails immdiatly not knowing i could have a 30 day return. please dont make the same mistake i made will be loosing about half the money maybe a little more for when i trade this bke in to either get another hard tail ether roscoe 8 or 9 or the fuel ex line up for full suspension. im pretty disappointeds with my buyu not gunna lie i wanterd something more but being a complete newb and my impatients made me buy not a bad bike but not the one i wantedd so i was able to do upgrades. ps great vidss i watch you here and there. keep up the great work.

[@Manwichman]

You right. Use the stop signs as there is no rewind in the world... Only in here

[@ortegaortega1076]

Hi brother great video just a quick question what is your height am 6ft or 180 is it good for me a size medium please let me

[@HEYDJ]

Thanks for this video! I think I missed this part, but may I know what your height is?

[@MattyActive]

I’m 5’8

[@mattj6676]

You know, you made me look at the bike range, and I have to say for the '22 model I kind of feel like the 7 is the best deal. I had no idea the 8 is pushing $2400! That's a good bike and all, but man for that money you can get a LOT of hardtail. Frankly you can get a decent amount of softtail too... I also prefer the Shimano drivetrain on the 7 personally, though the one on the 8 is still very good of course. You're basically paying $600 for upgraded brakes and a definitely better but not that much better fork. I'm not sure you'd really be able to tell the difference if you rode them side by side, aside from the different noise from the drive train. I know you're not really into doing bike mechanic stuff, so it probably makes the most sense for you to buy things the way you want them, but I really think in that price range you can shop around and get something you might even like better.

[@switchthis6511]

Something else to consider is the rear hub. The 8 and 9 come with a rapid drive 108 point hub, while 6 and 7 do not.

[@saahilshaik9024]

i see what youre saying but i do have to say, theres a lot of stuff better about the '22 8 from the 7. For example, apart from the better drivetrain and the significantly better fork that you get on the 8, you also get a rear hub with 108 point of engagement. That is a very big deal to a lot of people and make a way bigger difference than you would think. If you've never tried it, you'll never be able to tell, but it is night and day difference. Also, you get 203 mm rotor in the front and 180 in the back with the 8 and 180F/160R with the 7. The brake caliipers are also upgraded on the 8 from 2 piston the 7 to 4 piston on the 8. and though its not much, you lose a pound of weight. i think its just higher quality components. but youre absolutely right, the roscoe 7 is the bike to get for a lot of people.

[@mattj6676]

@@saahilshaik9024 you’re right, I just think the 8 is overpriced, you can get the same or better with different brands if one is willing to shop around

[@bryanmiller5692]

@@mattj6676 what bike are you getting for the same price that's better than the r8? Elaborate

[@jerry2968]

I felt like I was 20 feet in the air the first time I wrote a bike with 29 inch wheels

[@davidleemann7395]

That beard is on point! Roscoe is the way, new, old, the only thing that matters is Roscoe. Haha!

[@damianpiotrowski7944]

It looks nice, but I have a feeling trek cheaped out again on the bike. They slapped on an NX shifter and NX cassette with the standard HG hub driver instead of the actual GX stuff. Yeah its only a cassette and shifter, but It would have been nice to have the actual GX groupset since the GX shifter feels god-like compared to the NX. The brakes also are not the greatest. They are 4 pistons but they dont use the servo-wave tech like the deore, slx, xt... use which comparing the power and initial bite the stock brakes completely loose out on. Aside from that the rotors are great since they are metal pad compatible and the BB is threaded for once! As for the price, its not bad, could have been better but with the current bike and part situation its reasonable.

[@matthoyle2344]

See even more expensive bikes than this using NX shifter and cassette. You have to pay a fortune for a high spec bike

[@llongttower]

it has 4 piston brakes i cant see that being bad... maybe they werent burnt in?

[@MattyActive]

Not bad brakes at all, just thought they would be a little better considering the price

[@llongttower]

@@MattyActive ohh that makes more sense! Do you think its worth it? Im really looking into 2022 roscoes, 7 or 8 specifically not really 6 or 9... they just seem nice and hardtails are really my thing tbh.

[@MattyActive]

@@llongttower I think it’s definitely worth it. I’ve always had good experiences with my 2021 Roscoe 7 and these new models are way better

[@jacklee9699]

Lucky Love it 😍 Sick.

[@vahni]

Man you should have a contract or sponsored to TREK for you too doing this many trek bikes.. keep it up.. 👍🤟👍🤟👍

[@MattyActive]

Haha thanks! Maybe someday

[@simonduffey22]

@camaroglory Does this bike sound like angry Bees when you are not peddling? Is this normal??

[@marcmilne9228]

The Xcaliber 8 is a great option too.

[@bryanmiller5692]

That's an xc bike not a trail

[@andrewross219]

Short people struggle with 29ers. Depends on her height. Roscoe is way more fun than a marlin. If they can afford it Roscoe is much more exciting with plenty of room to grow.

[@MattyActive]

Yea I forgot to mention her height. She looked about 5’9-5’10. That’s why I mentioned 29. The 27.5 looked small on her lol

[@fortgreeneprojects1]

I have a 2017 Trek x caliber 9 and it's in immaculate condition. What's the difference between the Roscoe and the Xcalber 9? Peace and love Brooklyn NYC....

[@joseoliveira8805]

X caliber is a XC and roscoe is a tail bike due to 140mm fork

[@fortgreeneprojects1]

@@joseoliveira8805 I thought the Xcalber was a hardtail? Also how many mm fork does the Xcalber have compare to the 140 mm fork Roscoe?

[@bryanmiller5692]

@@fortgreeneprojects1 it is a hardtail but for cross country. The Roscoe is a true trail bike.

[@donnovicki9771]

Good looking bike for sure.....

[@Cmc7799]

Those are 4 piston brakes. Marlin is 2

[@323johnnybravo]

If she’s short and wants something easier to maneuver and a bit more agile I’d say 27.5. Otherwise you’re right 29er is much better at everything.

[@MattyActive]

I guess I forgot to mention she’s pretty tall. I’m guessing 5’9-5’10

[@323johnnybravo]

@@MattyActive 29er all the way !!

[@nickelcityrider5431]

If that lady is looking at a Roscoe the geo on the 6 is the same as 2021. So… I’d be looking at and am looking at Roscoe 7 or 8.

[@ricoromero8681]

That’s a sick looking bike! I’m telling you though, for the money, check out a Santa Cruz Chameleon, at least before me you buy, just to be sure. And when you do buy, maybe not from Wheatridge. Those guys were just kind of jerks to me. Love your videos!!

[@switchthis6511]

The Chameleon is a nice bike, only issue I have is the price. Santa Cruz increased the price by $200. $2599 for a bike with SX drivetrain and recon fork, yikes!

[@michaelmcclure3383]

Maybe they're thinking 27.5 plus is more stable than 29" for beginners.

[@MattyActive]

That’s definitely a possibility

[@jakebeaudrie]

@@MattyActive Maybe they're thinking the handling of the 29 might be more sluggish than a beginner is anticipating? But I don't know if that outweighs the "rollover things better" factor.

[@bulkleyoutdoors]

They call that color matte black olive but it just looks black to me, did it look green in person?

[@MattyActive]

Yea I actually have a bike that’s the same color. I always think it was black before I got it and turned out to be more green. I think it’s still a sick color in person!

[@dannyturner7967]

Inside with low light black is dominant color, outside in bright sun it is a deep olive green....really cool...

[@bulkleyoutdoors]

That is cool, it was between this and the nukeproof scout for me. Just ordered the nuke proof, we will see if i regret it. I would have gone for this but the closest one was 13 hours away and my LBS couldnt get one until November. 😬

[@masondorn9750]

Is the color more green or grey/black

[@MattyActive]

It’s like an olive green

[@kellylongmuir3175]

What hub is that? Want to upgrade my R6

[@MattyActive]

SRAM GX

[@alanlau4941]

I'm 5 foot 9 with inside leg of 30 inch. I'm on the cusp of Medium or ML. Which should i go for?

[@MattyActive]

I would go with the M/L if it were me

[@alanlau4941]

@@MattyActive thanks for the reply! I''m saving up for a new bike and I'm deciding between a Roscoe or a SC Chameleon!

[@bryanmiller5692]

@@alanlau4941 I'm the exact same size as you. Get the medium

[@sethrich5998]

@@bryanmiller5692100%. I’m 5’10 and 30.8” inseam. Originally got a M/L and the seat had to be set all the way down to fit and body position felt just enough too stretched out to not have great control. Turning felt awkward/sluggish. Traded it in for the M and it’s a completely different bike. Way more confident whipping it around corners and taking a precise line.

[@glasssgarage6803]

Is the roscoe 8 worth it?!

[@MattyActive]

Definitely!

[@camaroglory]

They are just trying to sell a 6 that no-one will want. She won't know the difference.

[@jbet65]

What kind of mtb review is that on urban streets

[@50whatnomadtravelnursemtb5]

I mean for a beginner they probably wouldn’t know the difference between tire sizes. I’ve got both a 27.5 and 29er bikes, to me there really isn’t that big of a difference between them by just comparing wheel size. And I just came off of riding a 26 in wheeled bike only 2 years ago. I kind of miss my old 26 inch mt bike, to bad it got stolen!

[@onpointpmcllc2682]

How tall are you?

[@MattyActive]

5’8

[@onpointpmcllc2682]

@@MattyActive im 5’-9” and got a M but kinda think I needed a M/L

[@saahilshaik9024]

the specialized helmet lmao

[@Swisha90s]

How tall are u? In cm

[@hikers012]

Just change your stem length.

[@cliffsangelsphotography]

I notice you always gravitate towards Trek. I understand that they have budget hardtail, but have you considered other brands with hardtails? Commencal, Marin, Chromag, etc make amazing hardtails. And that helmet doesn't look like it fits properly. I'd recommend a different size or a brand that better accommodates you.

[@MattyActive]

Yea I definitely want to check out other brands. Treks are just the easiest to get in my area and I hate ordering stuff honestly lol

[@shaymtbrider7244]

Over priced

[@type-r609]

That’s a mountain bike! Not a road bike! Useless bike review!