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@powerwagon3731
@powerwagon3731 Жыл бұрын
Love my 2022 Beta 300rr. Oil injection and I didn’t need to do anything to make it Colorado street legal. I put on a FMF muffler/ spark arrester, Fastway pegs, Kobel link, skid plate, disk gaurds, Seat concepts wide seat, Bark Busters and mounts. Now I have a perfect bike for this 61 year old 5 ft 6 intermediate rider. The carb works perfect from 8k to 13k foot mountains too.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Awesome, great choice.
@bbarker5766
@bbarker5766 Жыл бұрын
I thought 2 strokes were not allowed to be made street legal.
@randybarr8886
@randybarr8886 Жыл бұрын
i have a 2022 beta 300rr that is plated in Nevada. Feels like I am cheating
@jcsquared1111
@jcsquared1111 Жыл бұрын
I have the 2021 Beta 300RR and I love it, also since they aren't moving nearly as many bikes as the big brands, it is fully plateable with the addition of blinkers. Having grown up on 2 strokes with several chases on the street under my belt in the late 90s it is truly and awesome feeling ripping past law enforcement on a fully legal 2 stroke
@lukefish7562
@lukefish7562 Жыл бұрын
Don’t let em catch ya dawg! 🏍 💨 🚔
@WillPower46
@WillPower46 Жыл бұрын
I bought the GASGAS. It's a blast to ride. Amazing to think not one Japanese brand makes a 300 2t.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Right?! Enjoy the GG
@joeblow5037
@joeblow5037 Жыл бұрын
Carb All day, every day. Glad to see the 2 strokes back 😁
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Braapp ✌️‍💨
@dirkdiggler3009
@dirkdiggler3009 Жыл бұрын
My advice is to buy what your riding buddies have, and buy from a manufacturer that has spare parts in your area that are usually available. That way you can all build up a spare parts inventory and share it amongst each other when stuff breaks. What they didnt talk about is seat heights. If you are short the Beta has a lower seat height. They also didnt mention the KTM group suspension is subpar out of the box and will cost money to get it working properly.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Great points.
@panic-revv85
@panic-revv85 Жыл бұрын
I'd say buy what you can afford and what you're comfortable with. Do your research and get the right bike for you. KTM suspension has gotten much better over the years, but is still prefer kyb. Most riders will revalve and spring to suit anyhow so I wouldn't give the edge to anyone.
@johnhewitt1096
@johnhewitt1096 Жыл бұрын
I wont buy what my mates bought as they all got KTM and they all havng problem.
@panic-revv85
@panic-revv85 Жыл бұрын
@@johnhewitt1096 same
@dirkdiggler3009
@dirkdiggler3009 Жыл бұрын
@@johnhewitt1096 Oh I see. They like to smile.
@Natedoc808
@Natedoc808 Жыл бұрын
Yup, I’ll take the beta. My 2016 300 race has never overheated and the engine had tons of power but is very usable. The map switch does clearly help in slick conditions
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Solid choice!
@aaronphillips2728
@aaronphillips2728 Жыл бұрын
Composite subfram is why I'm changing brands completely. Absolutely love the 2022 te300i but the sub frames are 500$ break easy and on back order
@francescoporcari8597
@francescoporcari8597 Жыл бұрын
Still missing the TM...
@rookietrucker1240
@rookietrucker1240 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone ever review a woods bike in the woods of the east coast? Not everyone lives in the desert.
@smward1126
@smward1126 Ай бұрын
We need a 2024/2025 with TM, REIJU!
@Jimmy_Watt
@Jimmy_Watt Жыл бұрын
Disclosure that I own a 2022 GasGas EC250. The whole BrakTec vs Brembo being better is something I've sampled (my buddy has a 2022 GasGas EX300 with Brembos. I've raced my bike a lot over the last year, and never felt any fault from BrakTec components. It is a real world non-issue. No fading, good modulation. These brakes aren't inferior to anything.
@williamcrotts7054
@williamcrotts7054 Жыл бұрын
You have the wrong price on the KTM. You have the 6day price. The KTM is cheaper than the Husky. Come on guys.
@craighoffman6876
@craighoffman6876 Жыл бұрын
A riding buddy has the TM300, it is one gorgeous machine. Have taken a few quick spins on it, the KYB suspension, particularly the fork, is notably better than my 300 XC.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Great looking bike.
@BERZERKER888
@BERZERKER888 Жыл бұрын
And good luck finding parts that don’t take 6 months to get from the factory…
@craignicholson1788
@craignicholson1788 Жыл бұрын
I have the 21 GasGas. Which is practically the same as the 23! In my riding group I get to ride the Husky and KTM variants often and had 8 KTM 300's myself. KTM gets a lot of flack for selling 3 different bikes that are basically the same thing. In practice they all feel very different. I chose the GG because the ergonomics fit me best and its the most playful to ride with a perky motor. Complaints on the brakes are valid, they could be better. At the end of the day I bought the one that suited my riding best and was the best fit out the box. My thinking on the less premium bits was I upgrade suspension on every bike I buy and spend money on bike protection regardless. So why not buy the cheapest one? Looks mint too...something about red.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Well said for sure.
@louisdoucet1498
@louisdoucet1498 Жыл бұрын
One and done with Ktm,now three betas and very happy.
@CheradenineZakalwe
@CheradenineZakalwe Жыл бұрын
why you are testing 3 different color KTM-s. Should have added TM Racing, Fantic or Rieju(real GG)
@ogmK4rl
@ogmK4rl Жыл бұрын
because these days Ktm has a monopoly on dirt bikes.
@CheradenineZakalwe
@CheradenineZakalwe Жыл бұрын
@@ogmK4rl Jes, but no need to cement it further, unless paid by KTM
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Couldn't get our hands on those brands in time for this test. There will be more to come!
@aarynmurphy7174
@aarynmurphy7174 Жыл бұрын
Kinda like saying can’t compare a Cadillac to a Chevrolet because there both own by GM
@CheradenineZakalwe
@CheradenineZakalwe Жыл бұрын
@@aarynmurphy7174 Not really. The differences are very minor. I wish they would make three different bikes under KTM. They took Husky and Gasgas names, ditched their tech and selling still KTM bikes with very minor mods.
@innerfire-graham9016
@innerfire-graham9016 Жыл бұрын
The Beta race edition is by far my choice.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Nice
@jpesicka492
@jpesicka492 Жыл бұрын
Same suspension as the Sherco but I agree. Either Beta or GASGAS.
@robh3267
@robh3267 Жыл бұрын
It's funny you did your testing in California where every one of those bikes can not be registered to ride off road but you can still purchase them, a stupid law that they have no way of realistically enforcing, as previously mentioned you can't go wrong with any of these bikes they are all amazing right out of the box.
@donniemcfarland-r7b
@donniemcfarland-r7b 10 ай бұрын
California sucks.
@Lefevreremodeling
@Lefevreremodeling Жыл бұрын
My gas gas ec 300 is perfect. Could use a lil more power. But I'm happy with it. The brakes are not an issue for me. They work just as good as my 250sx. At the end of the day you can't go wrong with any of these smokers
@donniemcfarland-r7b
@donniemcfarland-r7b 10 ай бұрын
All great bikes. I like the Beta
@cyclenews
@cyclenews 10 ай бұрын
Nice choice
@jonnyhumphreys9133
@jonnyhumphreys9133 Жыл бұрын
You didn't mention Beta's 6mo warranty compared to 1 or 2mo for the others. Also looks like y'all avoided the muddy and wet conditions. KTM and Husky have been plagued with exposed sensor issues in these conditions. Very important details, in my book.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Great point with the warranty info!
@danhopkinson2811
@danhopkinson2811 Жыл бұрын
@Jonny Humphreys KTM give a 30 day warranty, and it's not worth the paper it's written on. having owned one I found dealer help and care to be awful. I recently visited a bike shop here in Australia where the owner told me a guy brought a Beta in with a broken crank case which is seriously expensive to replace. he was the 3rd owner of the bike, it was a few years old and it had over 250 hours on it. they enquired with Beta and they sent out a pair of crank cases free of charge under warranty. that's seriously impressive in today's industry
@jonnyhumphreys9133
@jonnyhumphreys9133 Жыл бұрын
@dan hopkinson that's why I went with the Beta. Local dealer is amazing, and so many stories of them sticking behind their products even after the 6mo are up.
@danhopkinson2811
@danhopkinson2811 Жыл бұрын
@@jonnyhumphreys9133 that's the difference aye. I had a issue with my tpi that was electrical. my local ktm wouldn't even plug the diagnostics in for me because I didn't buy the bike new from them, even when I had the bike in the van outside the shop. they also played stupid when I mentioned al the sensor faults and common issues, just acted like no one had ever mentioned it before. great support hey!? A friend of mine also had a 300tpi sieze at 12 hours old, KTM wouldn't even cover it under warranty. after a lot of back and forth between him, the mechanic and KTM all they offered was a small discount on the parts he'd need for a rebuild. still had to pay for them and fork out for the labour. as much as I liked my KTM they really do let themselves in the dealer department. KTM don't care about their customers
@jonnyhumphreys9133
@jonnyhumphreys9133 Жыл бұрын
@@danhopkinson2811 I follow Megs Braap. She had the same issues with her new Husky tpi. Sad. Standing behind your product goes a long way!
@andrewschmitt5792
@andrewschmitt5792 Жыл бұрын
I chose the Gasgas EC 300 over the others. It's attributes such as linkage sway arm, spring forks, silver wheels (which most don't like but I do) and it costs less. Came close to the beta 300 but part available worried me. I love the bike, it pulls so well down low but has plenty of high power. Definitely a tractor and you can be quite lazy of a rider or go all out with a few changes to the PV spring. Even the green spring has almost too much power and I find the bike to be way more than I need. Either way it's amazing on trails in stock form, best mods is a lower cut seat, skid plate, hand guards, etc. Really amazing and yes I am somewhat of a new rider but this bike is forgiving compared to older two strokes
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@AndrewC.McPherson-xf5zw
@AndrewC.McPherson-xf5zw 5 ай бұрын
2 stroke enduro bikes have been the boss for offroad since the days of the IT, KDX, and PE. Power plus range. Some models had 20lt tank plus reserve. '84 Yamaha IT 490 was a beast.
@AndrewC.McPherson-xf5zw
@AndrewC.McPherson-xf5zw 5 ай бұрын
23 liters = 5 gallons.
@AndrewC.McPherson-xf5zw
@AndrewC.McPherson-xf5zw 5 ай бұрын
Super cool man. Need headlight to get back to camp after evening fishing.
@AndrewC.McPherson-xf5zw
@AndrewC.McPherson-xf5zw 5 ай бұрын
Traded my KDX 200 with a friend for a ride on his Honda XR 200 R, a few times. He liked my kdx. It did not compare.
@teamflanneloutdoors5631
@teamflanneloutdoors5631 Жыл бұрын
Shame the Rieju was not included. Love that motor and new platform.
@tonyrichengod9280
@tonyrichengod9280 Жыл бұрын
No RIEJU?? HERESY! And let's be honest: 3 of these bikes are essentially the same girl in different dresses...
@dismemberizer827
@dismemberizer827 Жыл бұрын
Beta outperforming w. sexiness 🤩
@sharonpowrie6268
@sharonpowrie6268 Жыл бұрын
it s a shame the T M and Rejiu and Fantic not there
@ComonSava
@ComonSava Жыл бұрын
Sherco 300 se is the best bike I’ve ever ridden. Where I ride in the Rocky Mountains, slow and methodical while maneuvering through rocky single and double track, you just can’t beat the stability and linear power.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
That's awesome, it was one of our favorites.
@derekdreke4990
@derekdreke4990 Күн бұрын
They do look sweet
@commantrosexetlos4700
@commantrosexetlos4700 Жыл бұрын
Sherco is a photomodel..sick looking bike
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 9 ай бұрын
Now we can come back to this debate and without a doubt the 2024 KTM 300 XCW TBI and the 250 XCW TBI bikes are the absolute best on the market. The KTM XC 250 and 300 TBI bikes are right there and are the best straight out racing bike on the market. Whether you'd like to admit it or not, the proof is everywhere, period! They sell 100 to 1 bikes compared to all other manufacturers and they still have the least amount of repairs or failures, and consistently win more races hands down. It's hard to be on the top because everyone wants to knock you off.
@Dva_gasa
@Dva_gasa 8 ай бұрын
It is not very hard when you buy out all your competition.
@stevemccurley1707
@stevemccurley1707 7 ай бұрын
Yeh right highest catastrophic engine failure, shatted pistons KTM made in India
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 7 ай бұрын
@@stevemccurley1707 KTM two strokes are not made in India and are more reliable than your momma.
@stevemccurley1707
@stevemccurley1707 6 ай бұрын
As long as they don't go bankrupt in the meantime
@patricksorrell4278
@patricksorrell4278 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see you try the rieju 300 pro. I ride one in the desert and the single tracks of idaho and it's impressive.
@Rieju-Sherco
@Rieju-Sherco Жыл бұрын
So much agreed!!! I own the 22 six-days 300 model, SUPER fast and does everything you want it to do!
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Nice, we'll add that to the list.
@pdjam1121
@pdjam1121 Жыл бұрын
Nice review. I am loving my 2023 GASGAS EC 300. Taken it to Colorado the past two years and it's an absolute blast
@brucemorrison3563
@brucemorrison3563 Жыл бұрын
Now lets see a TM vs Rieju test. Please and thank you.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
On our list!
@UltraSS-nj8kd
@UltraSS-nj8kd Жыл бұрын
Hard to argue with those results ktm 300xcw for extreme enduro and beta (200re) for fun factor weekend warrior (have both) would love to try a sherco though. Need a 23 350 4t offroad bikes comparison next. 👍🏻
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Nice fleet
@juliomaciel4766
@juliomaciel4766 Жыл бұрын
You forgot the TM
@stonedeadoutdoors189
@stonedeadoutdoors189 Жыл бұрын
Where is the gas gas replacement rieju
@KyleMicena
@KyleMicena Жыл бұрын
Where’s the TM?
@utahdesertrider1806
@utahdesertrider1806 Жыл бұрын
I’m a. Beta rider but I agree with you. 100% I think TM is a great bike. I’d consider one, without a doubt.
@vikingd3727
@vikingd3727 Жыл бұрын
I'm looking at the Sherco se factory but all are great bikes can't go wrong with any of them.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Stinginroger93
@Stinginroger93 Жыл бұрын
KTM vs KTM vs KTM vs Beta vs sherco
@Superdisco199
@Superdisco199 Жыл бұрын
but thanks to loose manufacturing tolerances they all feel different 🙂
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
lol
@DAVINCIEVO
@DAVINCIEVO Жыл бұрын
Poor shoot-out. And the Rieju?
@teamflanneloutdoors5631
@teamflanneloutdoors5631 Жыл бұрын
Where's the Rieju?
@weirdo1083
@weirdo1083 Жыл бұрын
Thats what i was thinking.
@killerballs
@killerballs Жыл бұрын
Same
@bbarker5766
@bbarker5766 Жыл бұрын
And the TM.... they wasn't sent the bikes probably.
@Lawsy388
@Lawsy388 Жыл бұрын
TM and Rieju would have been nice in this... I opted for the Sherco this time around come with quality parts and heaps of fruit from the showroom. The bike is seriously awesome just eats up the gnarly stuff like it's nothing and is super punchy when you open her up. 10 hours now. My favourite colour has definitely changed from Orange to Blue 👌
@rx2ride259
@rx2ride259 Жыл бұрын
So much Braktec hate. MY 22 TE has them and so will my 23 TX. They work just fine. I had a 19 KTM 500 as well so Ive had the Brembo as well. All work great. Braktec is the gold standard in trials and work killer on my 21 TRS Raga Edition. Don't let the Braktec hate sway you.
@marcmoloney9310
@marcmoloney9310 Жыл бұрын
300 Tm all day
@woodsrider117
@woodsrider117 Жыл бұрын
As usual Betas 6 month warranty never gets mentioned. 1 year warranty for the street legal 4 strokes.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Great note
@davidawaters
@davidawaters Жыл бұрын
And, depending on the state, 2 stroke Betas seem to be easier to get a license plate for (possibly due to wording on the certificate of origin). We have 4 of them plated.
@thomasknapp7236
@thomasknapp7236 Жыл бұрын
Sherco also comes with FMF Gnarly pipe.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Good point
@JohnCalderwood007
@JohnCalderwood007 Жыл бұрын
Dang, no TM 300 en? Electronic power valve, TBI, kick starter, map switch, etc.
@MichaelLee-vk9fy
@MichaelLee-vk9fy Жыл бұрын
What about TMs???
@warrenstemphly5756
@warrenstemphly5756 4 ай бұрын
Really, isn’t the GasGas, Husky and KTM just the same bike in different clothes?
@JakeandOwen
@JakeandOwen 3 ай бұрын
Are they really that close? Would you buy a gas gas over the ktm?
@liv0003
@liv0003 2 ай бұрын
No , KTM and Husqvarna are pretty close but gas gas is not
@patbateman6729
@patbateman6729 11 ай бұрын
Congrats, Love my Sherco se250 factory, and it fits me so much better than the KTMs I had.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews 11 ай бұрын
Right on, that's a great bike!
@MichaelSmith-pg6gi
@MichaelSmith-pg6gi Жыл бұрын
Awsome test. I'm really surprised at how well those Shercos do in hard enduro.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Us too! Thanks for the view
@blakehymer424
@blakehymer424 Жыл бұрын
KTM was the best bike I ever owned. Ive had CRs KXs RMZ KTM was bar far superior
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Nice
@twowheelpilot
@twowheelpilot Жыл бұрын
Carb all the way!!!
@harrypeterson9287
@harrypeterson9287 Жыл бұрын
Have fun tinkering with it. At least you've got an excuse when you get whipped up on by a 4 stroke.
@1tokeover
@1tokeover 2 ай бұрын
Why would you want a carb when you could have fuel injection?
@cHaotix210
@cHaotix210 Жыл бұрын
How about tm en300?
@MudFarmers
@MudFarmers Жыл бұрын
KTM-Husky.......GM-Buick[soft ride],Pontiac[sporty ride],Saturn[economy]......They all ride different(maybe same assemble building/management/company)MONOPOLY begets poor dealer attention to customers?-Interesting Thank you for the test -been a follower since 70's
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@benmartin6476
@benmartin6476 Жыл бұрын
I had the 2022 te300i Hated everything about it I love my wife’s beta And ordered a TM racing 300en
@woodsrider117
@woodsrider117 Жыл бұрын
Beta wins.. It’s got the best choices of everything… and a carb and a warranty and looks the best
@BERZERKER888
@BERZERKER888 Жыл бұрын
Well… owning a 23 300 RE and a 2023 300 XC (TBI)… the KTM , aside from the front fork , blows my 300 RR away…
@brannonmeador1792
@brannonmeador1792 Жыл бұрын
@@BERZERKER888to each their own I guess but those bikes are not better than a properly tuned carb I hate the new ktms
@E63s_Scott
@E63s_Scott Жыл бұрын
Apart from a serious bar, peg vibration I can’t escape on a long enduro day and to me a weird attack riding position at speed, I’ve never took my hand off before mid trail to shake out numbness I’ve especially never took my feet off to shake them about either (300rr)
@rickyanke9407
@rickyanke9407 Жыл бұрын
Fun if there was updated versions of kdx,IT, and PE 300s to throw in the mix.
@chrisvids1820
@chrisvids1820 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. We had an old KDX250 way back when. I was only 15 when I rode it. From what I remember, it had nice a nice lugging bottom end, at the expense of top end(our rm250 was much quicker). Very smooth bike, and low maintenance costs. The biggest con for me was I got a NASTY head shake a couple times on that bike. Scared the poop out of me. I also used to ride that bike on a track before I could even touch the ground. It was much easier for me to clear the jumps compared to my yz80. Of course, it's one of the bikes that I wish was still in the family. Fortunately, I have a 1996 KX250 that I've refreshed. It's an absolute joy to ride.
@NotElmerKeith1
@NotElmerKeith1 Жыл бұрын
HEY! You forgot my KLX300R!!! Just kidding, but I actually love that heavy slow pig!
@jordanfreak8514
@jordanfreak8514 Жыл бұрын
Brotha glad you love that bike but it is nowhere near these bikes lol
@NotElmerKeith1
@NotElmerKeith1 Жыл бұрын
@@jordanfreak8514 .....well, it is much more quiet!
@thunderbolt9043
@thunderbolt9043 Жыл бұрын
@@NotElmerKeith1good way to take that
@harrypeterson9287
@harrypeterson9287 Жыл бұрын
How dare you talk about Rosie O'Donnell that way!!!
@NotElmerKeith1
@NotElmerKeith1 Жыл бұрын
@@harrypeterson9287 ....and yer mom...
@nicktuttle9483
@nicktuttle9483 Жыл бұрын
‘Old School PDS’ HaHa you have that backwards kids. KTM developed PDS as an evolution to linkage, by replacing the rising rate linkage with a position sensitive shock they were able to save weight, gain ground clearance and simplify the motorcycle.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Correct, it's their way of having no link but technically linkage is newer "tech" than non-linkage (PDS)
@nicktuttle9483
@nicktuttle9483 Жыл бұрын
@@cyclenews Yes but since The PDS System was an evolution of the linkage system, (Ktm had linkage before PDS) and is vastly different than the actual Old School non linked dual shock setups from the 70’s that you are comparing it to, so calling it old school is misleading at best. Whether or not it was a step forward is be debatable, as it obviously has some disadvantages for closed course racing…
@Lightnin42
@Lightnin42 Жыл бұрын
Love my 23’ Beta XT 300 ..
@anthonybencic9937
@anthonybencic9937 Жыл бұрын
me too ngl
@michaelwendler5589
@michaelwendler5589 Жыл бұрын
I could of bought whatever I wanted, and I ended up with the Sherco 300 SE Factory. Tough choice between the Beta 300rr Race, and the Sherco... Both are awesome bikes. KTM isn't even in the running for me.
@americandirtrider7662
@americandirtrider7662 Жыл бұрын
In riding both of them, I think they are both awesome. But I totally agree that Sherco is the slow technical rock crawler and the Beta is the open country race bike.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
great choice.
@Andy-wo9bm
@Andy-wo9bm Жыл бұрын
Elaborate
@americandirtrider7662
@americandirtrider7662 Жыл бұрын
@@Andy-wo9bm Which comment you are requesting elaboration. Mine, or Michaels?
@Andy-wo9bm
@Andy-wo9bm Жыл бұрын
@@americandirtrider7662 I wanted to hear his reasons why KTM was not even in the running if for different reasons than Warranty like others say.. But for you: how has the Sherco clutch held up, I hear they don’t last at all?
@beworevisietuning1264
@beworevisietuning1264 Жыл бұрын
Next year the New Fantic 300 a real game changer👍👍🤝
@geoffbybee7125
@geoffbybee7125 Жыл бұрын
Forgot the TM woulda let you borrow mine
@Rieju-Sherco
@Rieju-Sherco Жыл бұрын
Yes, read my comment
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
We should've called you!
@prestonthomas9406
@prestonthomas9406 10 ай бұрын
Are the weights given at the beginning of the video wet or dry. I have a 2019 KTM 300 XC-w and the dry weight specs say 221 lbs..
@cyclenews
@cyclenews 10 ай бұрын
Weights are all fully fueled.
@TeamStruggleBunny
@TeamStruggleBunny Жыл бұрын
Would have been good to have the TM in the mix.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Unable to get our hands on one in time.
@TeamStruggleBunny
@TeamStruggleBunny Жыл бұрын
@@cyclenews Friend of my has one, strong running bike, clutch pull is harsh though lol.
@frankmclaughlinsubscribe
@frankmclaughlinsubscribe 9 ай бұрын
How many Tm dealers in the states?
@markadobuilds9484
@markadobuilds9484 Жыл бұрын
Where’s the Rieju 300 Pro?
@user-se7vt5ow4e
@user-se7vt5ow4e Жыл бұрын
Best 300 of the bunch.
@Rieju-Sherco
@Rieju-Sherco Жыл бұрын
YES, ready my comment
@planktoncheated1819
@planktoncheated1819 Жыл бұрын
Just curious to know why the TM EN 300 was left out of this
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
We weren't able to get one from TM in time for this test.
@MR.TOYBOX
@MR.TOYBOX Жыл бұрын
@@cyclenews Should have tested the ktm 300 xc as well as the other bikes in the test. One more would not have hurt. Then you could have at least had one tbi bike in the mix.
@mrhasnohand
@mrhasnohand Жыл бұрын
No TM?
@edouardchalaron857
@edouardchalaron857 Жыл бұрын
Lol unbelievable
@garyindi
@garyindi 8 ай бұрын
My friends and I are pretty split down the middle with Betas and KTMs, we’ve all switched off on each others bikes and you really can’t go wrong with either. We still give each other crap though of course lol
@billmoore7133
@billmoore7133 Жыл бұрын
Where is the TM 300 that's the top one on my list and its not here???
@Rieju-Sherco
@Rieju-Sherco Жыл бұрын
What happened to the other two? Rieju and TM ktm, fake gas/gas and husky are almost the same
@simoncleland704
@simoncleland704 Жыл бұрын
KTM wins even with the average explorer fork that everyone seems to upgrade ? Wheres the TM EN300?
@ivnepe
@ivnepe Жыл бұрын
They did want to compare the TM becouse will win the contest Best bike
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Жыл бұрын
All great bikes - they got it right, KTM is the best IMO. The other bikes are right there by an inch...and better than KTM for other riders. We are lucky to have such great two strokes when environmentalists are trying to kill them all.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
You got it
@lw3918
@lw3918 Жыл бұрын
Hell 3 of the 5 are the same bike.
@jorjimaco5331
@jorjimaco5331 Жыл бұрын
Pick your colour shoot out… ???
@lw3918
@lw3918 Жыл бұрын
@@jorjimaco5331 I've got a KTM 300 XC-W. Poor choice on my part. It's a terrible desert bike.
@boerplaas388
@boerplaas388 Жыл бұрын
tm racing ????? rieju???? Where are they ? 😂
@joshuavanzuydam5044
@joshuavanzuydam5044 Жыл бұрын
​@LW You bought a Hard Enduro Machine for Desert riding. You should have ATLEAST gone for a 300xc. But probably a 450xc or 500 xc would have been best
@lw3918
@lw3918 Жыл бұрын
@Joshua Van Zuydam I know. It was a bad purchase. I watched a guy and he was riding in areas similar to mine and was praising that bike. I hadn't been on a 2 stroke in almost a decade and it sounded awesome. Bad move. Should have stuck with 450X's.
@gregtheos9309
@gregtheos9309 Жыл бұрын
Why on earth do you compare weights of bikes with a full tank of fuel? It penalizes the manufacturer that designs a larger tank and discourages them from...well, designing larger tanks. Most of us want a larger tank. In the end, the consumer loses.
@915fatty
@915fatty Жыл бұрын
Probably because most people ride the bike starting with a full tank of fuel.
@helmandtigers
@helmandtigers Жыл бұрын
Beta 300 all day long 😎😎
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
NICE👍👍
@paulcates7854
@paulcates7854 Жыл бұрын
Needs a TM included. It's a fine bike with all the good stuff. Even the carb models still work great, if not better in ways...
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Thanks, we couldn't secure one in time for this test.
@donniemcfarland-r7b
@donniemcfarland-r7b 10 ай бұрын
TM makes good stuff
@MTBFreeks
@MTBFreeks Жыл бұрын
All this KTM but I wonder if these other companies would have pushed the 2t technology like KTM did for several years when every other brand was walking away from them. Should be grateful for the persistentcy of KTM of supporting us woods guys through thick and thin
@matthewbuyak4827
@matthewbuyak4827 Жыл бұрын
No tm? Sheeeeeesh
@frostedjedi
@frostedjedi Жыл бұрын
Should've tested YZ250x with these just for fun
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Definitely, that and the KTM XC
@TheKitchenTechnician
@TheKitchenTechnician Жыл бұрын
I just bought a new 2023 Beta 300RR. I’ve had four WR 450’s over the last seven years and still have one. I was looking for something lighter and two stroke. I agonized over buying the YZ 250x for some time as it was thousands of $ cheaper but…no six speed, no starter, no battery, no counterbalancer etc,etc. The Japanese manufacturers are, or should I say, DID, miss out on the HUGE enduro market. Unfortunately it’s - 29 here in Kingston Ontario this February morning making riding season seem very far away at the moment.
@felix-ve8jk
@felix-ve8jk Жыл бұрын
I wish my '22 300XC came with the headlight and taillight/plate holder. I've got the aftermarket kit but it's just more work for me
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@nathansciacqua1030
@nathansciacqua1030 Жыл бұрын
Looks like he dropped the Husky Lol All great bikes. Prefer the carburetor, like the hit. Rather have the KYB suspension too. Great video.
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@crazidirtbiker
@crazidirtbiker Жыл бұрын
I was gonna ask where’s the TM but looks like everyone already did.
@jurdegraaf6660
@jurdegraaf6660 Жыл бұрын
Tm?
@tulliofreitas32frix75
@tulliofreitas32frix75 Жыл бұрын
Tm 300????????
@dakotanewman4443
@dakotanewman4443 Жыл бұрын
It'd be nice if there was more then just 3 different bikes (the other 2 color options don't count), you don't see TM or Rieju very often
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Thank you, we couldn't secure either of those bikes in time for this test.
@ridered7394
@ridered7394 Жыл бұрын
But which one has the comfiest seat?
@nils0n239
@nils0n239 11 ай бұрын
ktm, husqvarna seat is legit a plank
@donaldgrant9067
@donaldgrant9067 Жыл бұрын
Glade to see someone testing the 2 strokes, they have always been better for off road riding. But dam 10 grand? Only the rich can afford them, but I guess that is off road has become. Only for the rich. You know it was us working class kids and the poor that started this. It wasn't you rich kids. But as usual we get pushed out by the cost going sky high, then you rich don't get shown up by the working class, because we don't have anything to lose.
@MudFarmers
@MudFarmers Жыл бұрын
looks like its part of the global clean air act...higher price=less bikes especially the smokers
@k2HiKauai
@k2HiKauai Жыл бұрын
Can’t compare the TM 300 EN. Only one with aluminum frame. 😂
@chadanderson2486
@chadanderson2486 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the YZ250X. Easily upgradable to 300cc when the bore wears out. The yz will spend much less time in the shop too.
@superg8018
@superg8018 Жыл бұрын
I prefer steel framed bikes. More comfortable to ride. KTM, Sherco, and Beta all know what they're doing.
@lw3918
@lw3918 Жыл бұрын
In 2016 I got rid of my faithful 450X for a 300 XC-W. I ride in the Mojave desert. This was a huge mistake. Should have got a new 450X.
@donniemcfarland3160
@donniemcfarland3160 Жыл бұрын
All great bikes ! I love my beta 300rr race
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@northernmichiganadventuree7476
@northernmichiganadventuree7476 8 ай бұрын
Y’all screwed up. The Beta 300 Race Edition is more along the lines of the “X” bikes whereas the 300 RR fits more into this category. Plus you left out Rieju, TM, and GPX. These shootouts are dumb if you don’t include all of the players in the game. How can you choose a winner when you don’t have a full field?
@rickywoods3101
@rickywoods3101 7 ай бұрын
They chose the most popular brands, why would they choose unpopular bikes? If these companies want them to review their bikes then they need to send them the bikes for free. Plus those bikes are not near as available, along with parts in the u.s. If you don't like this review go buy all the bikes yourself and do a review of them!
@jdirt1982
@jdirt1982 Жыл бұрын
Does maxima have a astroglide equivalent???
@unzy429
@unzy429 Жыл бұрын
Mr pro 300 2-stroke rieju more bang for your buck
@dosstheboss100
@dosstheboss100 Жыл бұрын
Wish kawasaki would come back with kdx300
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Right?!
@dosstheboss100
@dosstheboss100 Жыл бұрын
@@cyclenews with factory smart carb and e start
@MTBFreeks
@MTBFreeks Жыл бұрын
If I am not mistaken Yamaha is dropping a 300x next year should be FUCKING Epic!
@Marine450x
@Marine450x Жыл бұрын
@@MTBFreeks they will sell a butt load if they do. Honestly I do not understand why Yamaha of all the jap bikes haven't seen the tea leaves here & offered a 300x type as this segment has proven to be popular. And I'm sure it will be 1 to 3k $ less than any of the Euros.
@jeff40
@jeff40 Жыл бұрын
Kawasaki never made a kdx-300. Just a 200 & a 220 but no 300cc. 2-stroke.
@moerockha625
@moerockha625 Жыл бұрын
Thats one sexy GasGas, screamin eagle 3.
@bradleyaustin2369
@bradleyaustin2369 Жыл бұрын
Its a tough choice between the Sherco and KTM for me
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Both great options.
@1tokeover
@1tokeover 2 ай бұрын
I friggen love the AssGas bikes.
@jakegorman7121
@jakegorman7121 Жыл бұрын
WHY NO TM???
@lukefish7562
@lukefish7562 Жыл бұрын
Uhhh, ya gotta go with what ⚡️BB57⚡️ uses! 22 Husky Te300i Rockstar and love it. 🏍💨
@cyclenews
@cyclenews Жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong!
Big hidden differences between KTM 300XC and XC-W
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