2023 Alfa Romeo Giulia review - is it better than a 3 Series?

[@pauljames3896]

5.5 years and 42k miles in my Giulia Veloce, and it's been flawless. I still look back at it every time I walk away from it.

[@karlhinze]

I’m picking up a Speciale in a few days and I’m looking forward to not wanting another car for a long time!

[@jinsy_]

Hows the servicing and reliability? I had the previous 159 and it was up and down. Seems like Alfa is really reliable now.

[@pauljames3896]

@@jinsy_ Reliability has been great, but it was for my previous GT and 156 too despite reputations for dodginess. I've been lucky to have a decent Alfa garage nearby who serviced all my cars. The dealer network is what lets Alfa down in the UK.

[@pkr619]

+1, I have a 2018 Giulia Lusso models, 30K, no issues.

[@kouroshariane5045]

Almost 44k miles on my 2018 Giulia and no issues whatsoever and no issues servicing it. Lots of great Alfa specialists in my area.

[@anthonyhoward8223]

Giulia Veloce owner from new 2017. 38000 miles in and no reliability issues at all. A truly great car that handles superbly.

[@CreamCobblerFiend]

Nice, AWD or RWD?

[@Wolfson47]

Our family has had four newer Alfas, 2018, 2019 QV, 2021 and another 2019. None have had problems of any kind. The driving experience has been great.

[@MrSilus2000]

Do you prefer the Stevia or Giulia?

[@stanislas4990]

Great review. The Alfa Romeo is by far the most entertaining car of its category. It's a beautiful car with a timeless design, and it's fun to drive.

[@albertlira7443]

I must have an Alfa. The Giulia is too perfect, flaws and all. I fell in love with her the moment i saw her. Great video man!

[@lanerose20]

Very good video!!

[@andersbjrnsen7203]

me too...there is the slight problem of paying for one, finding a roof to put it under and actually using it(norwegian hill farmer, but with the local store 5 minutes drive away, not all that many ocasions fit for an AR through the year..) but I know I want one..

[@albertlira7443]

@andersbjrnsen7203 that would be difficult to justify, but i think as long as you accept that it would be limited use, it would be okay.

[@andersbjrnsen7203]

@@albertlira7443 there is always the possibility of going for a Stelvio, it would probably fill all the roles my current Subarus do, though a bit more fragile and less reliable. Its not quite the same though, a Giulia would be nicer🤷

[@albertlira7443]

@andersbjrnsen7203 a Stelvio Q4 would be a great car. I would love to look more into their dependability at this point in time as that transmission is used in so many cars and the engine is shared with the Jeep Wrangler.

[@WazzaG076]

I am 76 and have owned three rear wheel drive Alfa over 30 years, a Berlina 1.6, an Alfetta 1.7 and finally a Giulietta 2.0 (for 24 years). Only serious health problems forced me to sell the Giulietta. I regret it every day. There is something about rear wheel drive Alfas which is so special that if I recover I will buy a Giulia Veloce at the drop of a hat. Yes Alfas require regular servicing and are not perfect but not in a reliability sense. Yes they demand that you drive them with some concentration but then give you back such delicious feedback as a reward. They truly become an extension of your fingers and toes. And that exhaust note! Please at least test drive a Giulia before buying a German brand. If you are the right type you won’t be able to resist. I promise.

[@wpww3343]

A 76 yo should not drive a nearly 300hp car.

[@wardth1]

@@wpww3343 What an ignorant comment. Based on absolutely nothing. My father was still a superb driver until a year before his death at 85. Also he had never had an accident of any kind in 55 years of driving.

[@wpww3343]

@@wardth1 big X to doubt

[@costaspapacostas2238]

You missed the Alfa 75, i wish you to have and enjoy the Julia again.

[@costaspapacostas2238]

Giulia, sorry for the dictation

[@glennlindamood]

I got my dream car 2021 Giulia Ti in November 2021. 17,000 miles later, no problems whatsoever! Best car I've ever owned!

[@tonyeverett8635]

32000 miles in my veloce, not skipped a beat been driven hard as well only averaging 28mpg since I've owned it but puts a smile on mu face every time I'm on the country lanes handling is unreal.

[@TimRodieDrivesStuff]

Hooray! Now don't shout too loudly, I'd like to keep 2nd hand values down so I can own one one day...

[@GROUNDHOGRACING]

10 years of Giulietta QV (stage 2) ownership, never a problem and since 2022 proud owner of a giulia veloce Q4🥰. It's important to treat her well in my opinion: - always warm up the engine - always cool it down for a minute - change the oil regularly ..such a fun car, especially with a remap🥰

[@rhadiem]

Picked up a 2018 TI Sport and am loving it. Such a fun car to drive, and with the tunable knob you can switch from hooning to miserly gas mileage at the twist of the wrist. Steering is quick, the AWD version puts the 280hp down smartly, and my research has shown no meaningful reliability issues out there. It's just something I see people like you keep repeating, despite none of you owning one. :) Great car, highly underrated, and the red interior is 👌

[@gfusco2008]

I’m on my second Giulia with no issues. The first one I ran the hell out of for 30,000 miles no issues!

[@drivewithanam]

My Giulia Ti's have been awesome. No reliability issues so far, way better than any Merc or BMW it it's class.

[@_fantasticscenes]

No definitely not lmao

[@drivewithanam]

@@_fantasticscenes damn, what have you been driving? Let us know!

[@_fantasticscenes]

Let me re-clarify: Yes Alfa's are awesome. Yes they are more reliable than most are aware of. Way better than any Merc or Bmw in its class? FALSE. lol A Ti gets out classed all day. The only Alfa that outclasses the German's is the Quadrifoglio. But even that is in M3 and AMG C43 territory and the new M3 is no slouch. A Ti has like 280hp lmao So it sits right between a 330i and 340i. Wouldn't say it outclasses anything really. It's a great car. It's superior in handling that's for sure. Sadly, dealer networks are lacking compared to other European brands. Especially in the states. I've driven tons of cars and brands including Porsches, Bmw's, Mustangs, STI's, etc. Want a list?@@drivewithanam

[@drivewithanam]

@@_fantasticscenes hmmm I guess we look for different things in a car. I’ve driven Porsches, Mercs, BMWs, and a bunch of other cars too. I’d still pick a Giulia Ti Sport if not the QV over all of them.

[@_fantasticscenes]

It's a great choice if you live near a dealer for when things go wrong, and they will lol. I'm looking for the exact same thing you are. Doesn't change the fact that it's not the "best". Pros and cons ;) I was literally shopping for them this month and found out my local dealer is closing and the closest one is 3hrs away. I'd hate to have that commute when it needs warranty work done :/ There's some Bmw's I'm interested in though. May have to go that route. @@drivewithanam

[@Max-lk5ci]

Loved my first Giulia QV so much that I bought a second. Neither have ever had a single issue and have been 10-20K less than AMG/M equivalents when bought used. Giulia was my first Alfa and I'm a fan for life now.

[@TheLawwillboy]

I had one in 2019 and did 30k miles in it with no major problems. Oil cooler replaced under warranty. Dealer was fine with it. Just changed to a 2020 version and that has been just as good so far. Best cars I’ve ever driven.

[@nigelfisher3756]

Ah yes, Alfa Romeo….a sublime history associated with an historic badge. And the Alfa Giulia? That will be a car for the cognoscenti, the driver who knows what he’s looking for in terms of driving dynamics, panache and style. He’s the chap who cares little whether the out-of-sight plastics contain the odd rough edge, there aren’t enough cup holders on the dash and the, ahem, ‘infotainment system’ isn’t quite world beating. No, provided he has unlimited pleasure at looking at the car when parked, being inside the car and surrounded by a very pleasing interior and knows that when he puts his foot on the accelerator the car responds with classic Alfa Romeo driving character and ability, he will indeed know there could be no other choice. BMW, Audi or Mercedes Benz? No….just too common.

[@daviebevan]

I have always said, I'd have one of these over a BMW, even an Audi. Love them. Good Review btw🙏

[@hamishthegaelic]

Another great review….AND it’s an Alfa….what’s not to like 👍

[@Calvin1911]

2018 Ti Sport with 32k miles on the clock. Not a single issue so far! I love the driving experience and also the styling. Absolute master piece. Never got looks for 8 years in my 3 series and first day of driving my Alfa and I got s huge “I love your car!!” Scream in the parking lots. Felt good. 😅👍🏻

[@sunnysaenngarm5375]

What I appreciate about these cars is that you could option colored brakes and wheels from the QV model, something small but it shows that they don’t want you to miss out on not getting the QV model. The Germans don’t even offer stuff like that on their regular cars.

[@CreamCobblerFiend]

Germans would charge you for each individual brake you want painted

[@datshitcray]

BMW offers you painted brakes, M steering wheel, M belts, and M sport seats ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@wimcalant8425]

Design and Italy perfect match. Also under the bonnet. A car with a soul.

[@pkr619]

Love the trilobo headlights, it suits the front looks. this is a timeless design, will remain a seductive car even decades from now.

[@sawit_b4u]

just joined the family with the 2024 Veloce. couldn't pass up the deal and 1 month in loving it. still on our honeymoon learning each other lol. she is special!

[@mattlittlej]

Pity you didn't get the premium interior and sound package. Having more leather trim and the HK sound system make this a true gem.

[@jp11mralfa]

Have a 2019 Giulia. I replaced the radiator under warranty, but besides that it's a joy that I would recommend to anyone. Also I know from 2020 and up they're basically perfectly reliable

[@guydavidesko3064]

excellent review, one of the best saloon sports cars out there, as a gulia owner I definitely agree that the feelings this car gives is something else

[@stephenhopwood9787]

My 67 plate Veloce is on 55k miles, and the only reliability issue has been with the German Bosch battery system, shared with the BMW. Its a lovely car to drive. I find the autobox shifts a bit early for me, so use the paddles every day. As others have said, you can't help but look back when you park it and think how gorgeous it is. Do the same with one of the German alternatives and you think "which one's mine again" Edit -bought the Alfa after trying BMW M140i and M340i. They were too clinical and boring to drive. Totally dead compared to the Alfa which is in a different league

[@THEBUFUMAN.]

yes only in D it shifts good. @2100-2200RPM. A and N is ok on Autobahn.

[@pigeonpoo1823]

To me, this is the spiritual successor to the e46. I'm glad you like it.

[@TimRodieDrivesStuff]

That's about right actually!

[@szabomate9811]

I'm so happy that people starts to see, that the new alfa giulias are sooooo good. Great review!

[@TimRodieDrivesStuff]

Thanks!

[@ryanm.3681]

Great vid. I had a 2019 2.0 for about 6 months. It was a fantastic car. I wish I hadn’t sold it. I will have another one day

[@bobmarino350]

My Alfa has been bulletproof. It’s a 2020 and the battery finally died last week. And that’s it. It’s an amazing car and I would buy one again tomorrow.

[@lambrosstamos4494]

Yes, she is and painfully gorgeous. I only wish there was something like a Nitron suspension solution. Big brake kit, too.

[@martynh5410]

“You don’t really have to thrash the knackers out of it”. Couldn’t agree more! I just traded my 2018 Giulia Ti Sport for this same 2023 Veloce model. Well not exactly the same, my 2023 Veloce does not have the same new headlight or tail light style. It think in the USA we got screwed on that part. The rest of it looks the same as in your video. Anyway, nice review!!

[@davidfidanzi]

My experience: no problem with my first Giulia (2016), no problem (up to now 🤞) with my 2nd Giulia (2021), only fun and pleasure of driving 👍

[@leesalter2795]

Had a Giulia Veloce for a month now (2018 version) and it's hands-down the best car I've ever owned! Beautiful to drive, stunning to look at. A bit thirsty, but that's more my driving style in the honeymoon period I think,. Get one - you'll not be disappointed.

[@benchnorthants]

Looks Awesome I've a 330e my preference would be the Alfa ❤

[@mashudali8482]

I actually love this car - love the wordplay my friend!

[@Gilbert1641]

I have a 2017 RWD 280 HP and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. Bought extended warranty and never had to use it so far.

[@chuckkvi]

I have had 12 different cars and 4 different built cars and this car as stock... it an awesome car! We love ours and ours is AWD too.

[@paulwardzynski3265]

Lovely car. I would like to see a two hour cross country road test with you in the back seat.

[@TimRodieDrivesStuff]

Just so you can see me puke on camera? 😆

[@aguj10]

Better than any german smartphone on tyres

[@johnneal6954]

I drive a stelvio estrema,had a Giulia as a courtesy car,only a standard, but what a drive!! Having owned a couple of 3 series in the past,would definitely get one instead, of a 3 series?stelvio and Giulia are some of the best drives❤️

[@F4atsixx]

I’ve owned a 2019 Q4 since new and it’s been a dream. We own a Stelvio and GTV6 as well! Nothing like them…..

[@namesbinge3073]

Thanks for showing me the pillar, really helps me with the thought of the pillar.

[@DontPanicDear]

She share is a looker! Nice to see some big fixed paddles 🤓 House is looking lovely too Tim 😅

[@TimRodieDrivesStuff]

Thanks! I'm a big fan of doric columns

[@DontPanicDear]

Tidy bushes 👍🏻

[@jacekp8366]

I currently drive a 2002 330Ci with 280kkm on the clock, if I were to buy a new car now, it would either be a Toyota GR product or a Giulia. New BMWs are very capable but, in my opinion, soulless cars. We have a 2011 Giulietta too, love the steering, Alfas are underrated as hell.

[@Birmingham_racing]

These look soo good in red

[@TimRodieDrivesStuff]

Agreed. And blue. And grey.

[@darksideemt]

I have the same car but a 22 that we got last year and absolutely love it. It is so fun to drive and a great road trip car. I do love the new dash and head lights but if I'm honest you can find slightly used Giulias in the states for a big price difference over new and I think that is the better way to go. My only complaint that I have had with the year of having it is it has to have the worst paint I have ever had in a car. The amount of bad rock chips in the paint in just a year is very bad compared to any other cars I've had and it isn't even the nose specifically. I also wish it came with the older 5 hole wheels instead of those new ones as I'm not a big fan vs the old. Great review though and hope to see them grow more over here in the states.

[@litespeed65]

The Giulia is one of those rare gems that everyone loves.

[@arifazar786]

Brilliant car with an excellent presenter

[@markscars1069]

I just like the fact that it’s still got dials. I’ve never had an Alfa. Closest I’ve come is a Fiat Coupe 20V Turbo which I managed to destroy around Nardo back in the day (looong story). I need to scratch the itch at some point.

[@untruenorth]

You found some suitably pretty countryside in which to feature that pretty car and its pretty wheels. And the combo of hills and firing range reminds me of Yorkshire: spent a very lovely couple of days driving newly collected pork around there when we took our cat to be irradiated (long story).

[@ivangamer8022]

I have a 156 Alfa Romeo, about ten years i own it.. never had a problem. Never. The guy that had it before me had done all the work. This is the secret

[@alb7293]

Own a 22 guilia veloce and the engine has been replaced in the first 6 months. It’s a stunning and beautiful car but it has given me hell reliability wise

[@DonViToCRLNE]

Never heared of this problem with the engine in german Alfa forums or in general, seems like you were unlucky, sadly. Besides of that replacing an engine is nothing that is done only in Alfa.

[@misano_alfa]

Yes, it is.

[@richardadams3142]

Karmon hardon! Love it 😂

[@halfrousseau69]

Yes I'm in - enough of Audi etc. This is basically the last opportunity to buy a banging internal combustion engine saloon. Even Alfa say its next gen cars will be electric. Get in the queue.

[@radiogreenblue]

I bought a 2017 and drove it to 99,000 miles basically problem free. At 99k miles the "throttle body" light came on and since i need a saloon that can handle 3-15 hour road trips. I bought a 2022 VW Arteon and it's tech chimed me into oblivion, explains in part why Deiss the former VW CEO was fired last year (he couldn't get the tech right). Traded the Arteon in for a 2022 280 hp Giulia and am now at 9k on the odometer. I know the inner workings of the 280hp Giulia pretty well if you have any questions.

[@jflscenic]

What was it with throttle body? Was it expensive replacement?

[@radiogreenblue]

I believe the Service Throttle Body can mean one of several things. Not sure on mine but the car went into limp mode and couldn’t accelerate above 70 miles per hour. Now at 30,000 miles on my new Giulia with all going well

[@jflscenic]

@@radiogreenblue so u don't know what it was

[@Joeyk078]

Its looks so good

[@alechopkins6545]

Haven't owned an alfa, but one thing i can say about ownership of an alfa in Aus, not many places do Alfa parts as not that common in Aus, so if need alfa parts, try and souce international or go to the alfa dealer, where as lots of parts for BMW/Merc/VAG available aftermarket in Aus due to popular On a positive note, it is a very pretty car the alfa

[@Charliej]

Currently have one in the states, 2019 Giulia ti Sport. It has been a fantastic car. Definitely luxury and lots of fun to drive. I feel like more people need to give it a chance, its just so much more fun than a BMW or Mercedes. I have enough blandness in adult life, why drive it too?

[@rismul]

2016 QV… nearly 100.000 kms and flawless. ✅

[@whispjohn]

I have owned 3 Alfas, 2 156 models, a 2.4 diesel and a 2 litre JTS, both were fabulous cars to drive and the diesel was a sportwagon which I drove 45000 miles in 2 years until someone on the phone in his car, drove into the backend writing it off. The petrol one I did around 20000 miles in 18 months until I gave it to my daughter. The other was a 145 Colverleaf and a scream to drive and pissed all over GTIs of the day. I had a go in a diesel Giulia and it felt just like a BMW 3 series, which I had owned previously. I thought if I wanted a BMW I would buy one. I also thought that if I bought a Giulia I would buy this one, the 280hp model. I have driven high powered cars and enjoyed them too BUT it encourages one to go a bit too fast and these days that is stupid, too many speed cameras and too much traffic. I would lose my licence in a heartbeat. Alfa twin cam engines are simply brilliant, they developed them for many years and they are silky smooth for a 4 cylinder engine! Alfa made a great little car.

[@ned_10]

Sorry I can't tell you that the Alpha Romeo Guilia is unreliable, however, my 5 year old Guilia Voloce has never let me down. When I purchased it people said you would have trouble, Nah! It's awesome and I love the attention it draws and compliments from random strangers. Best car I have ever bought and my family don't want me to sell it!

[@warburgaby]

way better! 😍

[@spaniardsrmoors6817]

Where's the troll that comments made up Alfa horror stories and was such a "fan of Alfa" but wouldn't buy ever again?🤣

[@robertmessam103]

I like a car with a heart beat

[@jonathanl2748]

How does the all wheel drive feel, compared to the rear wheel drive?

[@tomstc]

Karmon Hardon 😂😂

[@TimRodieDrivesStuff]

Always!

[@DontPanicDear]

I have one now too!

[@colinrenfrew48]

So much prettier than a3 series. Rare too.

[@matteo7250]

I have an AR Stelvio, it’s the best suv

[@jamiljafri4841]

A-pillar appreciation post

[@rayphong313]

This model is 2024 correct? Cause ive seen 2023 models headlight are different

[@ioannisspagos5405]

No problems at all

[@ravington666]

3:33.......karman hardon sound system......😁

[@willoates1258]

15000 miles into giulia QV ownership and no issues whatsoever. However, as a daily driver it is an expensive waste! You cant use the car property; it returns under 20 mpg (and thats spending most time in Eco mode); and i am on my THIRD set of tyres on the front. But i love it so much. So maybe the Veloce is the sensible comprimise???

[@pcr8918]

Agree that if the base colour is desirable they will sell more.

[@1977alo]

yes

[@robc5955]

It’s the only 4 door saloon I bother to look at whether base or top quadrophoniccywonkydoo spec, I want one.

[@duncan1234]

a Karmon Hard-on sound system, you say? 😀

[@TimRodieDrivesStuff]

I literally can't say it correctly anymore

[@NoiserToo]

Such a beautiful car!

[@madontherun]

I think its looks great and you don't see many of them about. Btw styling is crap lately. I've got a basic C-class , but it need updating. This is high on the list. Hope to find a used with mega low mileage .

[@chebrneck]

BMW may be a little more refined and luxurious but can never match the experience of the QV. my 2018 QV is amazing.

[@DarkAnthraxx]

I wonder if the lights would swap over to older models

[@historymythslegends]

Not a single problem, 60000km. still have the original brake pads. Still the best car for those that like to drive.

[@ore0re0]

What's the color? Alfa rosso OR Etna rosso?

[@scottferris6309]

I can’t even imagine what the insurance must be on one of these.

[@nathanhurdsfield2177]

Is the house at the beginning Middleton Lodge?

[@MeijaJanis]

drove previous(2021Y) alfa with this 280hp engine: -slow 100-200 -can not turn off DSC to enjoy car in winter -slow gearbox -bad quality interior(could be better this time) -obsolete infotainment(could be better this time) +good steering +lovely design ==no competition to BMW in terms of speed and fun IMHO. Even Octavia RS was faster 100-200 than this 280hp Alfa for half of the price.

[@baronvonjo1929]

My town has one of the very few Alfa Dealers I personally have ever seen. I remember when this car was released they left several in the grass as advertising next to the road. Those cars sat for many many months as nobody bought a single one despite being on a very busy road. See a decent amount of the crossover they make.

[@apostolostvable]

Very easy answer: Yes

[@jamesterakazis6624]

I'm sorry dude but ANOTHER Epic Fail at 8:53 when you mention "reliability concerns" ... 2017 Giulia Quad 40,000 glorious miles and still flying high 2018 Stelvio Ti Sport 2 year lease 2020 Stelvio Ti Sport current daily ...just purchased off lease. These cars are not 1970 Alfettas with two piece head gaskets that used to blow up routinely. Let's put the cliché reliability nonsense out to pasture. Have you ever owned a German car ? Let me tell you my WONDERFUL UBER QUALITY GERMAN CAR EXPERIENCES M 3 Sub Frame Crack M 5 Rod Bearing Failure 911 IMS Bearing Failure S 5 Head Gasket Failures Bangle 7 Series ...Do I even need to explain ? Come on Tim....Kick up your game and don't rely on HEARSAY...you're better than that

[@timrodierides]

Corrrr blimey watch the whole thing mate

[@Kostas_Dikefalaios]

Anectodal evidence sure is something

[@craiggregory9917]

Nearly 2 years from new no one issue

[@recruitmentch]

The UK just doesn't value Alfa Romeo's. A 2019 Alfa Romeo veloce with only 15K or so miles on the club is available these days for less than 25K. That is a ridiculous depreciation value in less than 4 years.

[@qubedoo3289]

I still don't get why they keep trying to make a point about Alfa Romeo reliability. Since the 1990's untill 2020 I owned AlfaSud QV from 1983, Alfa 33 TI from 1988, aLFA 33 QV from 1990, Alfa 146 TI 2.0 TS 16v from 1994 on lpg , Alfa 156 2.0 TS 16V Sportwagon from 2000 on lpg , Alfa Giulietta 1.4 Turbo from 2014 on lpg. The alfa's from 1983, 1988 had rust and electrical issues. The alfa from 1990 no rust and electrical issues, maintained by dealer km 400,000. Alfa 146 TI, no issues km 450,000, alfa 156 chiptuned by squadra tuning, sweet engine fast and efficient 560,000 km., Alfa Giulietta no issues km 250,000. Other than normal maintenance once a year, tires breaks, exhaust I had no other problems with these cars, but all were maintained by dealer or Alfa Romeo Specialist garage. So tell me what are the reliability issues? And is it the car or you, trying to cut on maintenance for example. As a side note, the Alfa Romeo/Fiat engines were the best for lpg, absolutely no issues or loss of power. Try that with audi, bmw or other brands. Now that is quality.

[@bernymonty22]

Jap I can agree with you. On 156 a have over 530.000km 9 years ago and this car is still on the road. Then a owned for 7 years 159Ti and give it to my brother with 420.000km and now a drive Giulia for 2 years now and have 280.000km. I work in VAG service and I can tell you that this "german relaiability" is no where to be seen. From 2020 I think it is even worse.

[@lowemichael03]

Trust me this car handles way better than AB. MW. I haven't even looked at this video yet. I'm just comedy based on the thumb nail take it from a person that's been a b m w Is lover an owner sense 1989. I was involved in a head on collision 2 years ago where somebody totaled my car and the rent a car place gave me an Alfa Romero I fell in love with it, and I never drove a b m w ever again.

[@colossus_g]

Better than a 3 series? No contest actually. The 3 series used to mean something but these days it is the business man's (woman's) taxi. If you want something to drive and enjoy ... look elsewhere. The Giulia is a fantastic car. I have owned one for nearly 2 years without any issues. Goes great. Steering it through the Adelaide hills is an absolute pleasure. Having said that, I am not a fan of the new look. Previously (like my car) it had an organic look like an animal stalking you if you see it in the rear mirror ... now it looks like what? a Robot?

[@sasoperme]

Nice car but I had to go with 530xd touring. Alfa would be too small.

[@FrankMolin]

Yess.

[@CM.243]

I've got a M340i and frankly it's all a bit too clinical and accomplished meaning it's a bit boring. Had far more fun in my previous Golf R even if it wasn't technically as good a car. So if Alfa did a 3 series sized estate (as opposed SUVs) then .......

[@HarryRylee1]

34000 trouble free full grin driving.