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2023 AMG C43 4Matic + Aero Pack! First Look with Mr.AMG!

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Welcome back to RBR and to the first #AMG in the C Class series! Here is everything that makes up the new #MercedesAMG #C43 4Matic, and it’s not insignificant. I gave this car NO credit when it was released because it was dropping the V6 for a 4 cylinder, but holy hell was I wrong!! No one has actually understood what AMG have made here. It’s more of an AMG than the last one by a factor of 10!
But don’t worry, I’ll take you through all the changes AMG have made vs the previous model, and what clues this gives us to future AMG models including the upcoming C63 without a V8!
I’ll also show you both the sedan and the wagon in a real world setting, here at Affalterbach, the home of AMG and Driving Performance! So let’s dive deep into the new AMG C43!
I had a lot of complaints with the normal C Class, which I found to be neither sporty nor comfortable. With the C43, it seems as always AMG has tinkered with almost everything, which will mean a much improved car over the standard C. But that means lots to unpack here.
The BIG BIG news is the new Engine, but I’ll come to this last. First and more importantly of all is the chassis. The C43 features the AMG RIDE CONTROL steel-spring suspension with Adaptive Damping System - controlling damping at each wheel. We also have lightweight coil springs and stabiliser bars front and back. There’s a large Strut across the front suspension, and an aluminium sheering panel on the front which the predecessor doesn’t have - mimicking the use in the A45S.
AMG’s three stage steering is here, which gives variable steering geometry ratio depending on driving mode, from sportier to more relaxed. Far more crucially, we now have rear axle steering of up to 2.5 degrees.
Then we have the AMG 4Matic all wheel drive system, this is identical to the previous car with a 31/69 rear biased split. My only disappointment, would have loved to have seen a fully variable 4matic plus system here.
The AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 9G with wet multi-disc clutch - same gearbox as you’d find in the E63, which we found to be bloody good.
More obvious are the AMG Braking system, 370 and 320mm in silver. Of course the AMG Performance Exhaust system is here - and get’s more emotive in the sportier modes. They also added more sound into the cabin with “AMG Real Performance Sound”, and AMG says “The actual engine sound is picked up by a sensor in the exhaust system and fed into the interior for a particularly emotive sound experience.” Pretty cool!
First time we have had a 20” set up on any C Class sedan/saloon, previously only on rear of the coupe. Looks flipping amazing. 19’s available too as you can see on our Estate.
Now the engine. This M139L is HAND BUILT ONE MAN ONE ENGINE power plant! This is the first time we have had a “one man one engine” power plant in a modern C43, and this elevates the car well beyond the previous to a full-fat AMG, a relative of the A45 almost!
This M139L engine debuted in the SL43. And now here in the C43. Now the headline figures: 408BHP, 500nm and 4.6 0-60. Then an additional 14HP from the RSG - belt starter generator. This is the world's first series-production engine to be turbocharged with an electric exhaust gas turbocharger - technology straight from the Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team, that’ll later see use in the C63.
The M139 as we know from A45 is longitudinal here, and is a closed deck design engine with sophisticated cooling and coating strategies from F1 and AMG V8’s.
So, not a single thing left from the Mercedes Benz car. A more AMG engine with the one man one engine unit, vs the last car, and more AMG hardware too.
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@Andy-ft8jf
@Andy-ft8jf 2 жыл бұрын
I think that there is no point on buying a c43 or a c63 anymore. I mean you can just buy a c220 and add parts to it to look like a c63. The best part is that nobody will notice a thing as they both will sound like vacuum cleaners xD
@Daniel-dj7fh
@Daniel-dj7fh 2 жыл бұрын
Especially since the extra power you get is like not really usable. But I must say that the vaccume noise is a dumb argument, since all cars have pumped noise whether it's got an i4 or v6/8. Sure the v8 should sound better but if it's fake what's the point.
@Daniel-dj7fh
@Daniel-dj7fh 2 жыл бұрын
Also the only problem with getting a c200 or something, is that even that slightly specced will go for around 60k, plus the amg bodykit, a good suspension set, and wheelset and you're also probably at around 70-75k if not more.
@Andy-ft8jf
@Andy-ft8jf 2 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-dj7fh i don’t know where you live, but in the UK the base model c class starts from 32k lol and the max you can spend is 42k for a c220 d. Except from that, the sound that it makes is a deal breaker. You might not care about it cause it seems that you’re not a car enthusiast as you don’t even know the basic stuff about how much cars actually cost but it is called amg for its big ass 4 litre v8
@Andy-ft8jf
@Andy-ft8jf 2 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-dj7fh they could at least implement a v6 ffs
@Daniel-dj7fh
@Daniel-dj7fh 2 жыл бұрын
@@Andy-ft8jf They had one, and since Germany is going to save the world by slowly making ICE's unappealing to the people, this is the next best thing Mercedes could slap out before the ban on Combustion engine Sales around 2035. Taking into consideration that it takes around 4-8 years or something like that to develop a car/new model, the last actual ICE Mercedes might be released around 2035-7= 2027, or not. Lets say there is a face lift or new model every two years you might see another 2 more C-Classes which have a combustion engine in it.
@A5hTriX
@A5hTriX 2 жыл бұрын
No matter how you try to spin it, that engine is a massive downgrade. "4 cylinders & fake carbon fibre"... In a Mercedes that'll cost over 60k, f***ing jokers. Is this dude a salesman?
@f0rtunat010
@f0rtunat010 2 жыл бұрын
ambassador as he buys all their cars
@mattbarry79
@mattbarry79 2 жыл бұрын
He's doing reverse Jedi mind tricks - these are the 4-cylinder C43s you were looking for...
@Fiwek23452
@Fiwek23452 2 жыл бұрын
He called a 4 cylinder a real amg engine 😂😂🤦‍♂️
@idreeskhan8885
@idreeskhan8885 2 жыл бұрын
No if you watch his other videos he has been pretty critical of the C Class but he didnt have the balls to call out these AMGs in their home. But yes this engine is a sham, 2L has no soul, sound, or personality. We have come from the 6.2l to this??
@Drwezloka
@Drwezloka 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fiwek23452 my 45 will run any other amg.
@firewaffle1
@firewaffle1 2 жыл бұрын
I will buy a w204 c63 one day...no matter how much the insurance is
@Seppo2704
@Seppo2704 2 жыл бұрын
Same man. I wish you luck and hope that we both can fullfill our dreams one day
@davidnguyen1065
@davidnguyen1065 2 жыл бұрын
I rented one for my bachelor party and it is something on my bucket list to own! Good choice my friend.
@firewaffle1
@firewaffle1 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidnguyen1065 nice
@firewaffle1
@firewaffle1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Seppo2704 you too
@chrisarm3047
@chrisarm3047 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 you’re a legend bro. You’ll get one. Youre smart enough to have already worked out that’s pretty much the only thing that will piss you off about owning this car.
@rmr5184
@rmr5184 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, you are saying it's more AMG than it's predecessor but we both know it's not true! I owned a RS4, A45, CLA35, F-Type (the V6) and now a M340i touring and we both know that a 4 cylinder will never, I repeat NEVER, replace a inline 6 or even a V6 engine. Yes it might have more power with the electrification but it will never arrive at the way a 6 or 8 cylinder engine revs and at it's smoothnes. It's a pitty todays influencer and journalists can't just simply be honest and tell us the truth. Don't get me wrong! I love your content and I genuinly appreciate what you have done so far and what you are still doing but in my opinion this is simply going too far. Consumers are not dumb and eventually they will discover themselves when a product isn't what reviewers promised. Anyway thanks for the content and greetings!
@rmr5184
@rmr5184 2 жыл бұрын
@a pimp named Mdot congratulations on your M3! The looks might be controversal but the overall car is just spectacular! I replaced my CLA 35 Shooting Brake, which by the way was terrible (unreliable and incredibly bad build quality), with the M340i touring in March. So far I'm really impressed and I think I will this car for a long time!
@rmr5184
@rmr5184 2 жыл бұрын
@a pimp named Mdot what color is it? I actually had the M3 for the weekend when I ordered my M340i and it was spectacular! I really loved it!
@rmr5184
@rmr5184 2 жыл бұрын
@a pimp named Mdot nice choice! Both colors are stunning and the wheels as well! I ended up ordering dravit grey with black M performance wheels. Pretty sure you woll enjoy the car for a long time.
@amarsehic91
@amarsehic91 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like they didnt let him start it up either...wonder why :(
@mattbarry79
@mattbarry79 2 жыл бұрын
@@amarsehic91 it probably sounds like a Toyota Corolla.
@CanadianStig990
@CanadianStig990 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I don't really care about the hand build vs mass produce engine thing. I would still take the M276 V6 engine over whatever this thing is. This car is essentially CLA 45S with a C class body with some fancy first gen "F1 electric tech" that god knows how long it will last. Considering these small batteries are part of the engine, what happens when they wear out in like 5 years? Don't get me wrong I love the entry level AMGs, but I think the last gen cars will be more desirable, heck you can put a simple stage 1 ECU on M276 and it will give you 420 hp with zero issue. These 4 cylinders are already producing almost 100hp each, how far can you still push it?
@KC_Smooth
@KC_Smooth 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. As the owner of a GLC 43, I can’t tell you enough how the sound of the V6 puts a smile on my face every time I drive.
@ritseee
@ritseee 2 жыл бұрын
Stage1 with 466hp and 680newton… Good luck to do it with this “realamgonemanoneengine” And the sound…. Cmon… 😂😂😂
@eshay6161
@eshay6161 2 жыл бұрын
U just scream poor hahaha
@Fittednocap
@Fittednocap 2 жыл бұрын
Ppl really don’t think about what happens 5 years + down the road smh
@eshay6161
@eshay6161 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fittednocap hahaha if in 5 years ur still driving the same car, don’t get an “amg” lol just get a Toyota. U clearly can’t afford this lifestyle
@ChesnoidGaming
@ChesnoidGaming 2 жыл бұрын
From the rear of the saloon I’m getting Alfa Romeo Giulia vibes. Anyone else see what I see? 😅
@hs0988
@hs0988 2 жыл бұрын
Yea🤣🤣, didnt notice that till u mentioned it
@tdrxy
@tdrxy 2 жыл бұрын
It's disgusting
@ChesnoidGaming
@ChesnoidGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@hs0988 Knew i wasn't going crazy haha
@mkvB58KING
@mkvB58KING 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like they came straight off an Audi S3
@ahmedelgohary8208
@ahmedelgohary8208 2 жыл бұрын
Oh hell yea I clicked on the video thinking it’s a new Romeo till I read the caption
@mattbarry79
@mattbarry79 2 жыл бұрын
I've been happy with my W205 C43. This new one looks nice, but the 4-banger is a deal breaker. I'm not even sure what AMG means anymore. Weren't they supposed to be German muscle cars? How does one man, one engine make sense when they're slapping AMG badges on crappy EVs? Hard pass on whatever Mercedes is smoking these days.
@heysteve
@heysteve 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah looks like I’ll be keeping my w205 c43 as well
@magnustan841
@magnustan841 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if the C43 W205 burns rubber and give you that muscle car vibe like it’s big brother does. But i get it, what you aspiring to in this new generation of C AMG, is very different to the W205.
@oRicardoHetfield
@oRicardoHetfield 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, this "one man, one engine" is BS just to add to the price of it... too much tech on this one!! As a bmw guy and owner of an old e92 335i, i love the last C43 AMG coupe... all spec'd out it's just gorgeous inside and out... even the 4 door is beautiful...
@madmax1631
@madmax1631 2 жыл бұрын
It’s because of the German regulations they are fucking up gas powered cars same thing for bmw and Audi
@mattbarry79
@mattbarry79 2 жыл бұрын
​@@magnustan841 Yeah I wouldn't argue with you. An AMG should be ridiculous. The C43 W205 doesn't get there with its V6 and AWD.
@Scorpio1075
@Scorpio1075 2 жыл бұрын
MB can describe the pumped-in sound any way they want to... but it's still a pumped-in sound. I drove a CLA 45 with this "feature" and all it does is make the car sound like it has an exhaust drone! I hope it sounds more natural in this... and there needs to be a way to turn it completely OFF.
@michaelsinclair8041
@michaelsinclair8041 2 жыл бұрын
As a current W205 Coupe owner for the past 4+ years my decision to go to the dark side as been vindicated! Picking up the new M4 x drive in a few weeks. Will be extremely sad to see it go! This is not what AMG owners want!
@folienkiste6242
@folienkiste6242 2 жыл бұрын
doing exactly the same thing. no xdrive tho.
@arthurrivera09
@arthurrivera09 2 жыл бұрын
Wow you are going to love that m4 ! Make sure to do plenty of digs 😂
@idreeskhan8885
@idreeskhan8885 2 жыл бұрын
I am likely to go down the same route. Our enemy is the only one giving us what we want lmao.
@softroseforyou7457
@softroseforyou7457 2 жыл бұрын
What is wrong with this car? It is beautiful inside and out and has the latest technology and it is hand built by one person making it a true AMG. It is turbo electrified which means it will have no turbo lag off the line. Also it is a 4 cylinder which means it is going to get good gas mileage but it will still have good 0 to 60 times that will compete with the M4. Speak for your self. The car is giving me what I want. SMH LOL
@folienkiste6242
@folienkiste6242 2 жыл бұрын
@@softroseforyou7457 Its hard to compare a C63 with a M4 anyways. If you prefer luxury go benz, if you prefer driving dynamics go bimmer.
@christophergresco9677
@christophergresco9677 2 жыл бұрын
Nice looking car. Not sold on the engine tho. Ask Porsche what happened when they tried to go i4.
@Gx22
@Gx22 2 жыл бұрын
I despise all the roundness of recent Mercedes and AMG models. Bring back the rugged and sharper lines and corners. Car looks like an everyday Acura or Audi now. Boring AF.
@hassan_codes
@hassan_codes 2 жыл бұрын
Audis are more angled cars than Mercedes
@badejavuade6774
@badejavuade6774 2 жыл бұрын
The roundness of the EQ range is even worse.
@ikhoonyejelem2967
@ikhoonyejelem2967 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@futuretyrant2905
@futuretyrant2905 2 жыл бұрын
Idk this looks better than it’s predecessor to me in a lot of ways
@Andy-ft8jf
@Andy-ft8jf 2 жыл бұрын
@@conor7154 everything has been ruined…
@zeedustrakok
@zeedustrakok 2 жыл бұрын
I will say the C43 is a big disappointment. The C43 was more of a smooth high speed cruiser. I prefer a nice 6-cyl over a high performance 4, even if it is hand built. Without the lovely 6, I don’t see why I’d get a 4 cyl over an electric car. 20” might look nice, but I think I’d get a flat on those within the month.
@voycodin5042
@voycodin5042 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I’m probably gonna go the 340i route. I hear that 6 cylinder is almost as good as they get.
@Tential1
@Tential1 2 жыл бұрын
Why not wait for him to drive before jumping to conclusions....
@darvinmilevic7418
@darvinmilevic7418 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the price of gas can sway you
@mulamulelilumadi4717
@mulamulelilumadi4717 2 жыл бұрын
@@darvinmilevic7418 high performance 4 poppers are more fuel efficient in the real world?
@Lukerr239
@Lukerr239 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you think AMG thinks the same?! What "you like" isn't what the world demands.
@EndofDays213
@EndofDays213 2 жыл бұрын
Something doesn’t seem right 🤔 something tells me Mercedes wasn’t satisfied with your last review on their new w206.
@XMrRex
@XMrRex 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same opinion. This review seems to have some pressure from Mercedes, it reads more like a shitty ad than an actual review
@rmr5184
@rmr5184 2 жыл бұрын
We quite literally thought the same! How can someone who owns a G63 AMG a GT Black Series and who owned several proper AMG's in the past, say that this is 10 times the better AMG than it's predecessor?
@vanduong7168
@vanduong7168 2 жыл бұрын
Well said! Honest opinion! Cancel Culture beware lol 😆
@LemtemPoktui
@LemtemPoktui 2 жыл бұрын
From a mass produced engine to a proper hand made engine from AMG themselves, to me is a big improvement. People who say that it's a gimmick are probably the same people that think that their Daniel Wellingtons are awesome.
@Sai-qx2cy
@Sai-qx2cy 2 жыл бұрын
1. Front strut bar is on top of the 4 pot engine cover for easy maintenance 2. W206 C43 is around 200 lbs heavy than W205 C43, heavy is good 3. 0.1 second faster than W205 C43 4. 19" run flat tire is already stiff even on confort mode. 20" should be very comfortable 5. No physical buttons I can focus more on driving 6. Front grill looks exactly the same on every class 7. The complexity of electric turbo engine should be cheap to repair after broke down 8. The thick steering wheel fits every person's hand 9. Pump in sound is good to test out the bass of the speaker 10. Flares on the speedometer is okay because I never need to read it
@Cassp0nk
@Cassp0nk 2 жыл бұрын
Truth is lies. War is peace.
@KC_Smooth
@KC_Smooth 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing upgrades! Adding the rear axle steering is such a nice addition... That said with all these new features, I can't help but feel the annual maintenance and repair bills are going to be massive for this vehicle. Something to consider!
@33875
@33875 2 жыл бұрын
Added weight IMO
@nathanielordonez2257
@nathanielordonez2257 2 жыл бұрын
Mercedes starting to turn into Audi looking less and less aggressive even bmw is starting too but bmw still look mean so imma get me an m340i
@Mr.S550
@Mr.S550 2 жыл бұрын
I would much prefer less aggressive styling than BMWs upcoming hideous design language
@kunalmore5212
@kunalmore5212 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.S550 you will also find when that bmw just walks all over your Mercedes 🤣
@Mr.S550
@Mr.S550 2 жыл бұрын
@@kunalmore5212 Not on the track kiddo
@kunalmore5212
@kunalmore5212 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.S550 Really you think this Mercedes is a better track weapon ? I have my doubts.
@Mr.S550
@Mr.S550 2 жыл бұрын
@@kunalmore5212 not this particular model, but just in general
@philippebeinaerts
@philippebeinaerts 2 жыл бұрын
I still don't see why Merc had to drop the 6 while BMW can continue the M3 and M340i... But I have to say this C43 looks really good
@madmax1631
@madmax1631 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it looks good but you loosing a v8 monster and getting a Honda Civic that pops like Wtffff
@madmax1631
@madmax1631 2 жыл бұрын
Been looking the same for over 20 years now
@nalasrai
@nalasrai 2 жыл бұрын
Thats a fantastic Golf GTI with a great 4 Cylinder engine. Good job AMG good job👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@rmr5184
@rmr5184 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and I can't understand how someone which owns a G63 and several Black Series AMG, can say that this one is more AMG than its predecessor. I don't give a straight if the engine is built by one guy at AMG or is a mass produced one. I want a 6 pot engine. On M cars you also don't get the signature of the mechanic on the engine but they are still outperforming the competition.
@nalasrai
@nalasrai 2 жыл бұрын
@@rmr5184 and 100K for a 4 cylinder is madness
@Sims64340
@Sims64340 2 жыл бұрын
@@nalasrai Yeah, and way slower than a 60K$ Model 3 Perf. AMG 🤡🤡🤡
@jai2256
@jai2256 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual! You can wow this thing all you want but it's never gonna be the same. I had traded in my C63S but recently bought another brand new one 2021 paying over sticker. I plan to hang on to this one!
@jccole7092
@jccole7092 2 жыл бұрын
With the regular C300 in its highest trim creeping up above $55,000 with just a few options, this C43 will likely cost more than its main competitor, the M340, and be closer to the base M3 (G80) in its price. Not sure if this 4-pot, half-baked AMG will be able to compete against the full-blown M.
@madmax1631
@madmax1631 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah bro it’s mad expensive Mercedes’ is to much money for no reason even though bmw got the performance for less money
@i_am_adam9833
@i_am_adam9833 2 жыл бұрын
In Slovakia fully loaded C43 is 115k euros.Fully loaded M3 Comp is 130k with carbon seats,ceramic break etc.I think it's completly mental how much they want for this and I don't even want to think how much will C63 be
@madmax1631
@madmax1631 2 жыл бұрын
@@i_am_adam9833 yep I agree it’s fucking ridiculous and the m3 comp x driver can swap to rwd lol so it’s fucking insane what they are asking for
@KC_Smooth
@KC_Smooth 2 жыл бұрын
The rear axle steering alone seems like it adds a significant amount. I guarantee you you'll also feel the price hit in your service maintenance fees.
@madmax1631
@madmax1631 2 жыл бұрын
@@KC_Smooth lol 😂 bro your mad funny this comment made me die but it’s true
@twilson1973
@twilson1973 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. The C43 looks good, seems to be way more advanced compared to the previous model.
@ikraam19
@ikraam19 2 жыл бұрын
The exterior design looks good but the lack of a 6 cyl engine is a big miss and a deal breaker for me.
@Sims64340
@Sims64340 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly! Even an EV is better than a 4 cylinders
@kotomakosako
@kotomakosako 2 жыл бұрын
Of course now everyone is sugar coating it to save Mercedes's sale, the fact is they're going to lose buyers to BMW (who never gave up on V6 and V8 engines) and even Audi who's putting back V8's just like they did with the latest SQ7.
@OSINT_Skye
@OSINT_Skye 2 жыл бұрын
remember what naysayers were saying about electric cars at first...
@roarbahamut9866
@roarbahamut9866 2 жыл бұрын
BMW cant hold out for long either. Gonna be around 1-3 years max before they got no choice.
@k.b.7424
@k.b.7424 Жыл бұрын
Its the first car in the world with a turbo charger that’s electric from formula 1 cars tech, nobody gives a shit about the count of cylinders when you have that type of tech. Do you care about buttons on your phone that’s touch screen? Back in the day you wanted a Blackberry, where is it now?
@AwesomeMikers
@AwesomeMikers 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to be a great improvement over a regular W206. Really curious what driving experience does it bring and whether this i4 engine can keep up with M340i’s B58.
@kunalmore5212
@kunalmore5212 2 жыл бұрын
We will have to wait for it. But my money is still on the B58
@ashleydaniels1132
@ashleydaniels1132 2 жыл бұрын
@@kunalmore5212 as much as i hate saying this, so do i. but we will see i suppose, once the first test drives come out, we will know.
@kunalmore5212
@kunalmore5212 2 жыл бұрын
@@ashleydaniels1132 the problem with Mercedes is they claim to have higher power figures but they always lose to the “less powerful” BMWs
@deepblue3741
@deepblue3741 2 жыл бұрын
@@kunalmore5212 narrower torque band and weight
@ashleydaniels1132
@ashleydaniels1132 2 жыл бұрын
@@kunalmore5212 not always....but where BMW a lot of the time get them is in the weight. often being between 100 to 200 kgs lighter, and that helps a lot. we actually did some checks on a dragstrip to see the difference, and well, it does show, especially there. timeslips dont lie. oh, same driver to even out the data. nd yes, he was an experienced track/drag driver too.
@samtolhurst2045
@samtolhurst2045 2 жыл бұрын
Headlight and alloy design is very similar to the G80 M3
@paulshepherd5649
@paulshepherd5649 2 жыл бұрын
So glad they’ve blacked out those silver verticals on the grill. Only thing I don’t like about my C63
@donartejupi1918
@donartejupi1918 2 жыл бұрын
You can change the grill anytime mate
@GerryManning1
@GerryManning1 2 жыл бұрын
Get them wrapped if you can
@paulshepherd5649
@paulshepherd5649 2 жыл бұрын
@@GerryManning1 yeah that’s what I’m leaning towards. Dark chrome maybe. Just don’t like the black plastic look of a 3rd party replacement grill
@Shaggy12321
@Shaggy12321 2 жыл бұрын
It's either this or the new LCI BMW M340i as my next car... I just can't look past the 4 cyl engine in this, yes its as powerful as the 6 cyl in the M340i, but I bet its not as quick, plus Mercedes build quality isn't as good as BMW at the moment
@Kirill0
@Kirill0 2 жыл бұрын
I cant believe I am saying this but I am starting to like bmws more.. Been a dye hard mercedes fan for years
@fancycavegaming620
@fancycavegaming620 2 жыл бұрын
The m340i xdrive is only slightly exciting, but it beats this c43 by a mile.
@arthurrivera09
@arthurrivera09 2 жыл бұрын
More like 5 miles !
@zukosobuza783
@zukosobuza783 2 жыл бұрын
M3 is still my fav, but lovely interior
@DanielSadjadian
@DanielSadjadian 2 жыл бұрын
This might be the sweet spot of the W206 AMGs, as the next C63 is reported to weigh just over 2000kgs (with the same E-Performance P3 hybrid unit like the GT 4 door), so the C43 might actually feel better through the corners and it's still responsive and powerful enough to have loads of fun. Just a shame about the sound.
@matmul4850
@matmul4850 2 жыл бұрын
Over 2000kg 😳😳
@Danniboy344
@Danniboy344 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds been ruined by the EU limitations on all of the bigger engine models sadly.
@ashleydaniels1132
@ashleydaniels1132 2 жыл бұрын
@@Danniboy344 that is something a lot of people dont seem to get, its not Mercedes fault that the sounds and engine sizes have changed. yes they could go the BMW route too, but i think they prefer playing it safe than sorry. also mostly their EU standards are aimed further up the line than their competition is. in other words they dont have to do changes as soon as the others when green specs changes, they already comply, which a lot of the other guys dont. yeah a few years only, but they have to spend less on development then too. who knows...
@idreeskhan8885
@idreeskhan8885 2 жыл бұрын
So it will weigh as much as an SUV, look like a girls lip gloss and have an engine with no soul, sound or personality.
@idreeskhan8885
@idreeskhan8885 2 жыл бұрын
@@Danniboy344 Why and who made these limitations? They need to be called out.
@greg5143
@greg5143 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit surprised by that 0-60 time. A full second slower than the new RS3, despite the same HP. The AMG must weigh significantly more than the RS3.
@jgripen969
@jgripen969 2 жыл бұрын
Hybrids do weigh a lot.
@dorongrill7603
@dorongrill7603 2 жыл бұрын
One man, half an engine.
@deanj6019
@deanj6019 2 жыл бұрын
I'm kind of disappointed in the exterior changes except for the grille, it does look more aggressive and meaner and I like it. However the overall design of the exterior just looks like it's been downgraded imho, it will probably grow on me though. The interior and the whole technology behind it, AMAZING.
@G82Jesse
@G82Jesse 2 жыл бұрын
I've been close to pulling the trigger on a G80 M3 xDrive. I'm actually waiting now to see what the new C63 is like
@madmax1631
@madmax1631 2 жыл бұрын
na bro go with the g80 its an amazing car bmw will always have the better inline 6 cars and they handle and look amazing
@madmax1631
@madmax1631 2 жыл бұрын
an also every fucking mercedes looks the same since early 2000's at least bmw is changing it up and trying something new
@nino9975
@nino9975 2 жыл бұрын
Why not the RWD G80?
@madmax1631
@madmax1631 2 жыл бұрын
@@nino9975 the x drive is better because you can also make it rwd the car has a setting to do that
@IceFish.
@IceFish. 2 жыл бұрын
@@madmax1631 its not better its for people that cant handle a full rwd
@TheRealBobMarley
@TheRealBobMarley 2 жыл бұрын
What we wanted in the next gen c43: A less jerky first gear, No MBUX, too much glare, “new” aka old in a couple years technology ages cars badly 4matic + V6 Engine Race Mode + Drift Mode Am I missing anything?
@adams9727
@adams9727 2 жыл бұрын
2 doors
@TheRealBobMarley
@TheRealBobMarley 2 жыл бұрын
Coupe version will be released soon, my 2020 is 2dr coupe
@mattbarry79
@mattbarry79 2 жыл бұрын
More physical buttons, less iPad touchscreens! An inline-6 would have been ok too! Maybe some real exhaust tips? How about not reverting to comfort mode when you turn off the car? Launch control?
@bikingshaun
@bikingshaun 2 жыл бұрын
As a former C43 and GLC63s (now M4x) owner, I completely agree. It would have been so easy to make a good C43 W206, but this one ain’t it.
@mudalachirwa282
@mudalachirwa282 2 жыл бұрын
You get the doggy in the back of the wagon😂😂
@tokyomusing
@tokyomusing 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, this is the news I was waiting for. The w205 C class interior was very dated. This seems like the perfect inner-city AMG.
@amarsehic91
@amarsehic91 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always and Glad you have nice things to say about this one, it is a nice looking car but signature or not id still take the predecessor over this. Really hate the new dash being gloss and looking like an entertainment device instead of a driver instrument 😢
@vincentmotonya2859
@vincentmotonya2859 2 жыл бұрын
I wish AMG used the V6 for the C63 .I can't imagine a C63 whith a 4 cylinder
@AKhan.28
@AKhan.28 2 жыл бұрын
the estate looks dope
@Daniel-wp9yo
@Daniel-wp9yo 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I prefer this one over the old 43’s. It got cool options, nice interieur/exterieur. And the badge on the engine. Nice work!
@coreypatterson1386
@coreypatterson1386 2 жыл бұрын
He can't show us what the car sounds like🤣...don't worry, we already know it will sound like shit just like the new C63 that will be coming out soon with the 4 cylinder engine....you can keep the new C43 and the new C63 which will be coming out at some point....I will stick with my 2021 V8 C63s amg
@Andy-ft8jf
@Andy-ft8jf 2 жыл бұрын
Just keep it low milage legend. It will value as fuck in the future
@CorvusHyperion
@CorvusHyperion 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I am not ordering one this time. Who wants a 'super A45'?
@ElPsiCongroo
@ElPsiCongroo 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! When you do driving impressions, can you comment on how the turbo lag is mitigated with the electric turbo? Would the car react as quick as a naturally aspirated car, except with the turbo benefits of torque down low? And I wonder if existing cars with the M139 engine could be reworked aftermarket to include the electric turbo.
@philtrysstrongman
@philtrysstrongman 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I do like this but after looking at the rs3 I'm struggling to choose iv had 4 diffrent c classes and getting bored of the dash
@TreDaSpartan
@TreDaSpartan 2 жыл бұрын
I just pre-ordered a 23' m340 xdrive. Hopefully I don't regret it over not getting this.
@brianrasmussen2956
@brianrasmussen2956 2 жыл бұрын
4 cylinders! Are they ******* kidding!?? It NEEDS 6 cylinders, the sound is absolutely epic.
@6558393
@6558393 2 жыл бұрын
When you are watching c43 presentation and even journalist is afraid to turn on the engine :D
@ArthurTheSecond
@ArthurTheSecond Жыл бұрын
RBR never disappoints, the car with that 4 banger does 💀
@billymania11
@billymania11 2 жыл бұрын
Mercedes does make a straight 6 and assuming a single turbo, it's by far the simplest performance engine to manufacture and makes good power. The 4 is similar but will lack primary engine balance and long-term reliability will fall a bit short. The C class is for young gentlemen that are starting out and it's pretty nice. The sweet spot for me is the straight 6. The V8's are too heavy and too uneconomical. Your mileage may vary.
@JayzStuff
@JayzStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same. I've got the E53, straight 6, electric supercharger/turbo 48v system which has a lot of this tech already from 2 years ago. A platform that Mercedes seems to have given up on, and could have been great in this car.
@IanMBuilds
@IanMBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
6:23 Well we know that guy 😎
@harryszeto8292
@harryszeto8292 2 жыл бұрын
not that acceleration time matters a whole lot... but why is a 408bhp C43 doing 4.6s to 60 while an equivalent BMW M340i can do the 0-60 in 4.1s
@Andy-ft8jf
@Andy-ft8jf 2 жыл бұрын
Cause the electric motor as well as the battery pack are heavy as fuck
@misterdragzon
@misterdragzon 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair BMW quotes 4.4s when there have been sub-4 runs stock, so could be another case of manufacturer underrating
@Mr.S550
@Mr.S550 2 жыл бұрын
Weight is what’s holding it down, but i believe it’s still quick off the line
@Mr.S550
@Mr.S550 2 жыл бұрын
@@misterdragzon most definitely is, all German automakers underestimate their specifications
@rmr5184
@rmr5184 2 жыл бұрын
@@misterdragzon I own a 2 month old M340i touring and measured 4.2s on a cold day and with Bridgestone runflat tires three weeks ago.
@kevmagill5163
@kevmagill5163 2 жыл бұрын
TAKE MY MONEY!!!....estate in red black interior silver wheels....Your videos, the production and cutaways and details are the best in the KZbin world.. I look forward to every post you make. 5 stars, 10's across the board, A+, top marks!
@tailorofsoundpresentsshftm6467
@tailorofsoundpresentsshftm6467 2 жыл бұрын
Oh ye of little faith.. I knew this would be a hit.. Wicked review.. Jaw drop.. Can't wait for the drive..
@RemoveBeforeRace
@RemoveBeforeRace 2 жыл бұрын
Coming soon I hope! 😈
@odubble
@odubble 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! I have it’s predecessor, the 2021 C43 in Selenite Gray. Luv the car! Waiting to see the new C63. Looking to upgrade in ‘23.
@tadficuscactus
@tadficuscactus 2 жыл бұрын
The electric spool assist turbos are amazing technology.
@ianpark3872
@ianpark3872 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review as always!!
@waverleyjournalise5757
@waverleyjournalise5757 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the sweet spot of the line. I thought the c200 looked good but this is a whole new level, and it looks really smart. I still think they should have stopped the line here though, and end the line of the C63 without ruining its V8 heritage. But for a daily? I would 100% drive this.
@Account1746
@Account1746 2 жыл бұрын
This care clean af 🔥🔥🔥 will be a decent cop in a couple years
@freemanncube3402
@freemanncube3402 2 жыл бұрын
This does not have a chance against its competitor the M340i which is over a year old now.
@TejTalks
@TejTalks 2 жыл бұрын
Great tour, what an exciting new C43!
@walter.zikalala
@walter.zikalala 2 жыл бұрын
Very thorough review, always informative and professional. Just love listening to you!!!
@funda298
@funda298 2 жыл бұрын
£70k for a C43. Pure madness. Absolutely crazy money.
@stormking1973
@stormking1973 2 жыл бұрын
better than an RS3 though
@funda298
@funda298 2 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with my V8 wagon, cheers ;)
@johnguidetti5839
@johnguidetti5839 2 жыл бұрын
Saloon or coupe look much better than estate.
@funda298
@funda298 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnguidetti5839 all personal preference. Had coupe and now wagon. Wagon looks way cooler.
@johnguidetti5839
@johnguidetti5839 2 жыл бұрын
@@funda298 Nothing cool about an estate look like an old man or a hearse.
@funda298
@funda298 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnguidetti5839 🤣 again, personal preference. What car do you drive?
@johnguidetti5839
@johnguidetti5839 2 жыл бұрын
@@funda298 E400d coupe. “Estate cars are cool” but nobody can say why 🤣 generally curious.
@USConnexion
@USConnexion 2 жыл бұрын
Mr amg looks like he ran away from his wedding to review a car 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ogbenzel
@ogbenzel 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see a drive review
@collenmusemwa
@collenmusemwa 2 жыл бұрын
We were rushed to EVs before hybrids got a proper run.
@Cassp0nk
@Cassp0nk 2 жыл бұрын
These new Mercedes’ including project one are strong evidence that hybrid doesn’t work well.. all the weight of two drive trains.
@BorisBeer24
@BorisBeer24 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, many people hate the 2.0 4 banger, but for me being in Belgium, I honestly get excited about this new c43. Big v8s or even a v6 etc are so expensive in taxes, especially for the regular working person. So the 2.0 is very welcome imo.
@mxolisisivuku3079
@mxolisisivuku3079 2 жыл бұрын
this guy never disappoints when it comes to reviews
@asezangozo1914
@asezangozo1914 Жыл бұрын
This video made me wanna get one I am due for an upgrade from the previous model after my 1hour 30min test drive I find the V6 is more exciting and engaging than this pile of beautiful junk it's not worth the asking price I am sorry. I will put my money in the V6 upgrades like after market headers, stage 2 tune for gearbox and engine, a wrap and 20inch rivian wheels.
@Sideways_Singh
@Sideways_Singh 2 жыл бұрын
Looks really good compared to last gen. Makes me even more excited for the CLE55 or 63 AMG, hope it has no pillars and a fully opening rear and front window like previous E and CLK class.
@user-jf6fs7ko4j
@user-jf6fs7ko4j Жыл бұрын
Mercedes put a lot of good tech in this generation. Hand built engine is a nice touch and confirmed AMG status but I have to say the old c43 coupe age so well and it's a V6.......it's a keeper if you own it......
@slobodanmanojlovic6903
@slobodanmanojlovic6903 2 жыл бұрын
It is obvious that you have to fake your enthusiasm, especially with those seats and 4-cylinder engine, witch are no way near BMW M3 seats or i6 from M340i...
@michaelschneider-
@michaelschneider- 2 жыл бұрын
+1. Longtime subscriber from 8,200ft elevation, Vail, Colorado ... Man O man ,,,, you gotta show Luv for the estate chassis .. If only an estate C-Klasse would be available in America... Our neighbors in Canada are honored with MB estates of all likes... A sported-up 2023 AMG C43 Kombi would be a great daily driver .... Very nice overview!!
@santana9537
@santana9537 2 жыл бұрын
Probably would prefer this over the 63. Especially with the new e63 going in the same direction
@Driver20418
@Driver20418 2 жыл бұрын
Same i would take the C43 but i love more power so i will have to see about the new AMG C63. Im also disappointed that the AMG C63 will lose the V8 and use a 4 cyl hybrid instead and i also know about the next AMG E Class as well as there is a AMG E63 S Final edition coming soon which could indicate the last E63 S with a V8 before it follows the same direction of 4 pot hybirds
@santana9537
@santana9537 2 жыл бұрын
@@Driver20418 the thing I like about this new c43 is that it’s more amg focused aside from just the power which is something the m340i lacks. But saying that the B58 engine is glorious, definitely not something I can say about the new breed of AMG’s
@martinrockport2485
@martinrockport2485 2 жыл бұрын
Looks nice... but Mercedes-Benz UK will likely trim back on some of those available options... so I'll be surprised if we get those seats... or the rear wheel steering... or even those AMG 'Aero' and 'Night' Packs... which will be a shame because personally, I think an estate with those options would be very appealing. I'm also oddly looking forward to hearing what the new AMG C-class cars sound like. AMG cars don't often disappoint in the noise department. I remember how many people at the time said the 4.0 turbo V8s would sound pants against the 6.3 NA ones (and okay, they had a point) but AMG still got the M177 to play a decent bass line under full Wellington. We might be surprised by these electrified four pots yet...
@uzesgooner2336
@uzesgooner2336 2 жыл бұрын
Can't get Aero or night pack in UK so pointless.....won't sell
@Jdnicks00
@Jdnicks00 2 жыл бұрын
Smaller engine, bigger wheels?
@briananthony4044
@briananthony4044 2 жыл бұрын
That motor that drives the turbo has a trick feature. When not in use it can generate up to 4Kw that recharges the battery driven by the exhaust gases.
@gabrielgabes5074
@gabrielgabes5074 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely new this was coming, looks a bit better
@christiantan5341
@christiantan5341 2 жыл бұрын
I think I can forgive this car for it's 4-cyl engine. I must say that the old one sounds a billion times better, especially with the explosive upshifts. Still, it's quite nice.
@OverdoseOfLaughs
@OverdoseOfLaughs 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing editing, good job!
@mycokakar9066
@mycokakar9066 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing review Raz , some ray of light !!
@windwalkerby
@windwalkerby 2 жыл бұрын
19" wheels fit better in my opinion. Look great and I'm more than sure the ride quality would be much better
@Alex-ig7li
@Alex-ig7li 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Thanks man 😊
@newbwheeler9777
@newbwheeler9777 2 жыл бұрын
I’d take that wagon in that blue all day long!😍
@Kruse1
@Kruse1 2 жыл бұрын
Looks good. I wish they waited another generation to make the C63 a 4cyl hybrid.
@totom5095
@totom5095 2 жыл бұрын
All I can say is that AMG must be holding back for the full C63s , like the alloys style the seats but an AMG is about the driving, the real sound experience. I am very fortunate to have a S205 C63s and I am truly still sat firmly on the fence in deciding if the new generation with all the toys and tech added makes an impression on me.
@roarbahamut9866
@roarbahamut9866 2 жыл бұрын
I rlly want to see the coupes for the new C-Class. Mercedes coupes always been a treat to look at.
@mmdc8745
@mmdc8745 2 жыл бұрын
Now it will only depend on the price difference between the C43 and c63, what an amazing car
@Daniel-dj7fh
@Daniel-dj7fh 2 жыл бұрын
The wheels look really funky, contemplating if it wouldn't be that bit better if it weren't highpolished silver.
@Daniel-dj7fh
@Daniel-dj7fh 2 жыл бұрын
Black Chrome is nice. Spoiler abit too long imo, they could have molded the trunk lid into more of a real duck tail.
@TonyA4766
@TonyA4766 2 жыл бұрын
Well if YOU say it’s genuine then it’s genuine!! Can’t wait for the first drive!!
@AlexA-bx8jr
@AlexA-bx8jr 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. It's literally the first time the optics package has been shown. I think it's missing the rear flics and addition diffuser at the rear valence.
@Cedric2000
@Cedric2000 2 жыл бұрын
They are present on the german configurator
@AlexA-bx8jr
@AlexA-bx8jr 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cedric2000 Yes they are also notated in the dealer ordering guide. Just not included on this particular pre prod car
@rickzagor
@rickzagor 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh so I’m not the only one snooping on the German configuratior 👀 you guys have any info on the US 43 configurator?
@isaacghansahart3314
@isaacghansahart3314 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful design as always, I just wish they had maintained the amg rear lights from the previous generation
@stevenhadler9747
@stevenhadler9747 2 жыл бұрын
Lottery win then I will order one lol Lovely car !!!!!!!
@tadficuscactus
@tadficuscactus 2 жыл бұрын
I like this car. An AMG straight six would be really cool, but can't complain with this.
@Karto86
@Karto86 2 жыл бұрын
4.6 in AMG... this is 0.4 faster than my Hyundai and much slower than A45+ :( I hope Alfa Romeo will keep producing Gulia QV for the at least 5 more years :D
@Mr.S550
@Mr.S550 2 жыл бұрын
German automakers tend to underestimate their specifications, it’s well known by now
@G20T
@G20T Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t care for the sporty side of things with Mercedes’ but the luxury is key for the benzes
@effa114
@effa114 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why you’d buy the C63 now, frankly. 4matic+ and an even higher state of tune may make it difficult to justify the inevitable price gulf…
@36ama60
@36ama60 2 жыл бұрын
One man one engine will die in the future. They won’t do this with electric motors.
@tobycedwards
@tobycedwards 2 жыл бұрын
the "i just had an accident" comment made the video deserve a like haha
@JacK-yr8ri
@JacK-yr8ri 2 жыл бұрын
They should put an option to pump in sound through the speakers from the 6.2L v8 from the c63 into the car.
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