2023 AMG C43 vs BMW M340i vs Audi S5 // DRAG & ROLL RACE

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@johnmorrison8351
@johnmorrison8351 Жыл бұрын
B58 belongs in the engine hall of fame
@slscamg
@slscamg Жыл бұрын
If the B58 is the last generation of I6 petrol engines from BMW, they can rest easy knowing they will forever have the greatest I6 engine ever produced
@josephhooks1292
@josephhooks1292 Жыл бұрын
@@slscamgthe s58 is better than the b58 though
@JacobTheGunNut
@JacobTheGunNut Жыл бұрын
@@josephhooks1292 Also drastically more expensive
@nonexistence7986
@nonexistence7986 Жыл бұрын
​@@josephhooks1292S58 has bonkers power and response but B58 in a daily type car like the X3, X5, X7 and other sedans makes it a bit of a sleeper and it has more than enough power with solidity and smoothness
@josephhooks1292
@josephhooks1292 Жыл бұрын
@@nonexistence7986 I never said b58 is bad. Just that the s58 is factually a better engine lol.
@Tanner_Teves
@Tanner_Teves Жыл бұрын
Man the M340i is just the king in that category, not sure why someone would pick anything else.
@1v1qsns
@1v1qsns Жыл бұрын
Seriously. Audi looks nice but why drive a worse car?
@wristoww
@wristoww Жыл бұрын
I regret selling mine. I’m in a 540i now and it’s also excellent and plenty quick, but doesn’t have any of the drama the M340i had. Maybe next time I’ll upgrade to the proper M3 Comp
@marwanmalek2147
@marwanmalek2147 Жыл бұрын
​@wristoww really? Im just about to do the same.
@pkennethv
@pkennethv Жыл бұрын
the hatch truck design (for putting in larger objects) is a major selling point of the S5 for me (not that I have one)
@ARentz07
@ARentz07 Жыл бұрын
Out of those three, I'd go BMW. But I've been rather happy with the IS500 so far.
@florianhaffner3910
@florianhaffner3910 Жыл бұрын
The BMW M340i is such an awesome car. The engineering, the design, the badge. Close to perfection
@spiff56747
@spiff56747 Жыл бұрын
Why no manual tho
@Juuzo
@Juuzo Жыл бұрын
F30 340i has some manual versions aswell.
@heinman6250
@heinman6250 Жыл бұрын
It’s only real flaw is that other than acceleration it isn’t all that exciting to drive
@pipikakachu
@pipikakachu Жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 and i love it… i would love an M5 but i feel great with what i have…my pockets too 😂
@encorrre3664
@encorrre3664 Жыл бұрын
I agree, everything looks perfect on paper but its just boring to drive.
@spewp
@spewp Жыл бұрын
What a bummer. Peak Mercedes really was the 6.2L C63. The 2014 - 2020 era of C, E, GT were marvelous wonders as well. Mercedes has lost their way again. As a Mercedes customer this makes me immensely distraught.
@paganizondasroadster1660
@paganizondasroadster1660 Жыл бұрын
You’re not alone
@NYM348
@NYM348 Жыл бұрын
They announced they’re going back to 6 and 8 cylinders in 2026 so I’ll be happy to see a fair fight between the m340 and c43 in 2026 I have a m340 on order. Maybe I’ll spring for one if they do that in 2026 but I’m more of a bmw fan I just like to see the big German 3 pushing each other
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 Жыл бұрын
Well you should be glad that the 4-cylinder AMG complaints were bad enough for Mercedes to reportedly get into talks about bringing back the V8 in the C63 and E63.
@fierymaelstrom
@fierymaelstrom Жыл бұрын
@@NYM348 unfortunately confirmed at the recent Monterey Car Show to be sticking to the current 4cyl for the Cs and 6cyl for the Es into the future. Makes me happy I grabbed a V8 before they're gone but also sad the way it's all going...
@chamaldealwis9
@chamaldealwis9 Жыл бұрын
@@NYM348 mercedes spokesperson denied that rumour being true
@AndreMTM
@AndreMTM Жыл бұрын
Wow as a previous c43 owner, Mercedes really dropped the ball with this generation. Looks and performance wise
@numbers7905
@numbers7905 Жыл бұрын
I owned one as well and wouldn't touch the new one. How can the new inline-4 be heavier than the old V6?
@awandepercival4299
@awandepercival4299 Жыл бұрын
Mercedes is just fucking up everything evn the new GLE63s they crap compared to the first gen GLE63s evn look wise it jst bad only g63 n a45s are still good cars as for the rest im not sure
@cy2086
@cy2086 Жыл бұрын
@@numbers7905it’s all of the “f1” technology
@MrMlbfan6
@MrMlbfan6 Жыл бұрын
@@cy2086 what f1 tech lollll that’s marketing honestly f1 doesn’t have launches lol
@sanchaynarain3532
@sanchaynarain3532 Жыл бұрын
@@numbers7905the hybrid tech is to blame for that serious weight gain…
@sthabiso_mkhize
@sthabiso_mkhize Жыл бұрын
The M340i is just a beast🔥🔥
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 Жыл бұрын
BMW FTW ///M POWER ⏩⏩
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
BMW POWER!
@N54htmare
@N54htmare 9 ай бұрын
@@boondockbwoy14B58 is not M power stop it 😂
@cameronmyers7435
@cameronmyers7435 Жыл бұрын
It is a good video when Carston isn't quiet the whole time. 😂
@jespermeisel9799
@jespermeisel9799 Жыл бұрын
We all love Carston, but he is the editor, so he has alot work on his table. It wont happen alot.
@TheBreakfastLover
@TheBreakfastLover Жыл бұрын
Carston is the unsung hero of ThrottleHouse. Their production quality is the best of all the automotive KZbinrs.
@chrism869
@chrism869 Жыл бұрын
yes indeed
@TheBasher-_-
@TheBasher-_- Жыл бұрын
He talks? I thought he was a selective mute 🔇 😂
@MemeguyBryan
@MemeguyBryan Жыл бұрын
And he doesn't talk much so if you know, you know 😂
@skunkmakgakga
@skunkmakgakga Жыл бұрын
the BMW M340i is a monster 👻
@NguyenNhanQKhanh
@NguyenNhanQKhanh Жыл бұрын
😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
@skunkmakgakga
@skunkmakgakga Жыл бұрын
@@NguyenNhanQKhanh 🤔🤔🤔 and then?
@NguyenNhanQKhanh
@NguyenNhanQKhanh Жыл бұрын
@@skunkmakgakga AND I HATE BMW!😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
@Youcallthesebagels_
@Youcallthesebagels_ Жыл бұрын
And monstrously underrated 😂, they should be sued for falsifying data.
@NguyenNhanQKhanh
@NguyenNhanQKhanh Жыл бұрын
@@Youcallthesebagels_ Mercedes is lose, I'm so very sad!😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@Slick_Nick
@Slick_Nick Жыл бұрын
The b58 is just a masterpiece, just on another planet. Then you tune the thing and put a few grand in mods and it's damn near as quick as the M3 lmao
@xdomi313
@xdomi313 Жыл бұрын
not with the 8hp51
@Person-cv9dj
@Person-cv9dj Жыл бұрын
Yeah with software alone you can get it to like 500hp however the m3 with software alone can get to 700hp
@Slick_Nick
@Slick_Nick Жыл бұрын
@@Person-cv9dj oh yeah once you tinker with the S58 it's over lol
@nima6150
@nima6150 Жыл бұрын
I saw a German KZbinr remove the limiter on the M340 and he hit 319 Kph on the Autobahn which is mind boggling considering it’s technically not a full M
@MrMlbfan6
@MrMlbfan6 Жыл бұрын
@@nima6150 autop correct ?
@PlayafromtheHimalayas
@PlayafromtheHimalayas Жыл бұрын
Ordered a m340 in January and received it in May. Ordered the M performance exhaust 2 days later and loving it. Such a fun car. The suspension is definitely on the sporty side so if you want it a little more plush, order with the adaptive suspension.
@Qooleys
@Qooleys Жыл бұрын
how much was it? And where did you get it? Got my 23 M340i in February but needs to sound more aggressive and louder
@myemailiscool
@myemailiscool Жыл бұрын
@@Qooleys the M performance exhaust makes the car a *lot* louder, tbh sometimes i wish it had a more chill mode but that's like maybe 5% of the time lol. it was $2500 USD from BMW, though i added it to the order so didn't pay any install fees.
@PsychicMedium4747
@PsychicMedium4747 Жыл бұрын
I agree 10000000000% especially compared to those two idiots from Straightline Yuri and ? Whatever his name is….I cannot stand them. Thomas and James are TOP NOTCH
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
​@@Qooleysthe 2023 BMW M340i reportedly has 630bhp.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
​@@myemailiscoollouder like NASCAR GEN 4 car?
@blackfish4674
@blackfish4674 Жыл бұрын
Already know m340i ftw without even watching...
@KeketsoMarange-gg2ri
@KeketsoMarange-gg2ri Жыл бұрын
Obviously duhhh
@cameronlotter1392
@cameronlotter1392 Жыл бұрын
Ew, we found the bmw fan child 🧒
@ohkeipham
@ohkeipham Жыл бұрын
Facts
@M4Kendall
@M4Kendall Жыл бұрын
Beeeee58 baby
@josephhooks1292
@josephhooks1292 Жыл бұрын
@@cameronlotter1392he was right though 😎
@lasings6738
@lasings6738 Жыл бұрын
Keep the M340i content coming. Great video!
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
Amin.
@illuminatidestroyerbear2231
@illuminatidestroyerbear2231 Жыл бұрын
Throttle House is by far the best car review channel on the interwebs.
@diddlybow3891
@diddlybow3891 Жыл бұрын
💯
@travisfandrich4904
@travisfandrich4904 Жыл бұрын
Carwow is pretty damn good too!
@WDKNGBigDips
@WDKNGBigDips Жыл бұрын
​@@travisfandrich4904Carwow has really great videos too and are very consistent but the host is way too cheesy. TH easily takes it over carwow.
@0LLy796
@0LLy796 Жыл бұрын
Do not know why you feel the need to compare these channels. You set yourself up for pple to comment and set you straight. Do better
@thenumber102k
@thenumber102k Жыл бұрын
@@travisfandrich4904no hate to carwow but he just reads the brochure, throttle house actually tell us stuff that car guys care about from testing them in different conditions
@MrMlbfan6
@MrMlbfan6 Жыл бұрын
Amg really has drop the ball lately
@NVIDIAGeekify
@NVIDIAGeekify Жыл бұрын
yep, none of their cars win against the competition.
@roger4880
@roger4880 Жыл бұрын
Last 10 years, not lately.
@MrMlbfan6
@MrMlbfan6 Жыл бұрын
@@roger4880 no the 212 was amazing
@lvi8430
@lvi8430 Жыл бұрын
thank the governments people vote for, AMG kills the V8 little by little and now we’re stuck with 2.0L toy engines ‘cause of “regulations”
@ReggaeGandalf86
@ReggaeGandalf86 Жыл бұрын
The E63S W213 was awesome too.
@haoji5910
@haoji5910 10 ай бұрын
After test-driving both glc43 and sq5, I ordered a X3M40i in January and received it in April. B58D is so much fun to drive.😆
@MyRealName
@MyRealName Жыл бұрын
I don't know how the others sell anything with the m340i in the same market..
@Raven77844
@Raven77844 Жыл бұрын
Because not everyone likes BMW's. Lol. I think each car has its own merits.
@MyRealName
@MyRealName Жыл бұрын
@@Raven77844 Yeah I guess, but it's objectively so far ahead right now that you don't need to love BMWs to see that.. And I don't see merits in this Mercedes, other than the badge. It has nothing else. Audi always feels good, though, if you don't care about dynamics that much.
@Raven77844
@Raven77844 Жыл бұрын
@MyRealName every driver values cars differently in terms of performance, features, brand, interior/exterior esthetics, etc. When you get to luxury performance vehicles, I find it's the sum of its parts that dictate buying decisions.
@MyRealName
@MyRealName Жыл бұрын
@@Raven77844 I agree, I mean not all people are going to buy the same car, obviously. All I'm saying is that it must be difficult for other manufacturers to compete with this package, because BMW is the best sum of its parts, by far. Doesn't mean everybody is going to like it, of course, as you said..
@Raven77844
@Raven77844 Жыл бұрын
@MyRealName lets face it. All 3 cars were pretty close in terms of performance. We're not talking about drag racing these cars on a daily basis. These cars are developed for daily use on normal residential streets. Its performance is sufficient for normal daily use. If you need your car to be bragging rights for the fastest in this segment, then BMW is it. It all comes down to personal choice. Eg). I think Audi has the best interior ergonomics and esthetics. Its performance is pretty good. It doesn't need to win drag races, but quick enough as a daily for me. These are my criterias, which is why I bought my S6 over the M550i. Every owner has their own criteria of their ideal car that suits their needs. These YT reviews looks through the lens of 1 perspective...the KZbinr. Its their opinion and thats it.
@blackhammer5189
@blackhammer5189 Жыл бұрын
Wow that M340i it's so quick 🔥
@mattspeer01
@mattspeer01 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2023 X3 M40i with the B58 and the thing goes like a bat out of hell, such a good engine. When MB announced the new C43, I knew it would be a flop even with the “better” numbers. BMW is still king.
@justinbernardo8240
@justinbernardo8240 Жыл бұрын
bmw produces more hp with the b58 then merc does on the new c43. Bmw underates it. Its pushing more like 425hp.
@nat29sal
@nat29sal Жыл бұрын
I have 23 M340 too and I love it!!
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 Жыл бұрын
@@justinbernardo8240 BMW is just the better ride at the end of the day..all the other brands can do the same an underrate their cars which I'm sure they do
@Mr.Lambert777
@Mr.Lambert777 Жыл бұрын
Same here. I have a 23 X3M40i, that thing is a beast!! I have the black sapphire, w blk shadow pkg, 20 in jet black rims on hi performance YOKO non RFT with the sports rear diff.
@DMCarReviews
@DMCarReviews Жыл бұрын
I have a 22' X4 M40i with 76k miles. I raced many fast cars. It does very well against much higher hp rated cars. Big thanks to the eBoost too! I easily beat my friends 2023 S5, especially in the higher speeds.
@S8ER
@S8ER Жыл бұрын
It's strange to me that they took the worst parts of F1 and tried to market them as positives.
@questionyourself718
@questionyourself718 Жыл бұрын
Right? 😂 too many people get blinded by "f1 tech". Whereas not all f1 tech is desireable for a street car. Did they make sure to put the right f1 tech inside? Lol
@nashanthename1886
@nashanthename1886 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I hear "F1 technology" it automatically means to me that the car drives and acts like shite
@arsh_07
@arsh_07 Жыл бұрын
​@@nashanthename1886also weighs like a semi 😂
@cs1375
@cs1375 Жыл бұрын
The real worst part of F1 has been gone almost 2 years now, Michael Masi. After that blatant bad call, I couldn't watch F1. I tried last season. This year, I haven't seen a race at all.
@nashanthename1886
@nashanthename1886 Жыл бұрын
@jak-gm7zg I'm Christian :)
@macaron3141592653
@macaron3141592653 Жыл бұрын
You know I'm actually impressed by the Audi, it should lose terribly here but it doesn't. It kept up pretty well. I like the car alot and like Audi's, especially now that they're the last of these brands to keep physical controls for everything.
@snakeeyes9246
@snakeeyes9246 Жыл бұрын
The next gen is due soon. This platform of cars is pretty old.
@Phobos123
@Phobos123 Жыл бұрын
100% and I am shocked that nobody mentions it in the comments or even dares to bash Audi. Having almost ~50hp and being the cheapest it was 1-1 with new Merc and a bit slower than BMW.
@Carwithoutengine
@Carwithoutengine Жыл бұрын
I wont get a car just bcoz of its physical controls, though i agree that audi is pretty good
@Robin-sf3gk
@Robin-sf3gk Жыл бұрын
@@snakeeyes9246 Will they bring another A5? thought they'll ditch the 2 doors
@-matt
@-matt Жыл бұрын
@@Phobos123its only about a grand cheaper than the m340, not a crazy price difference. but yes, it is an old platform that should have faired a lot worse…performed amazing
@NomadJedi
@NomadJedi Жыл бұрын
I'm a BMW guy, but it's crazy how close the Audi was to the Merc with that power deficit.
@tommolewis3105
@tommolewis3105 Жыл бұрын
It’s because of how much heavier the Mercedes is with the motors and batteries, but adding more power to compensate adding more weight? Makes no sense. Mercedes dropped the ball here.
@tedarcher9120
@tedarcher9120 Жыл бұрын
You can get another 100 hp out of that audi with a simple remap, while Mercedes engine will just explode with a tiny bit of tune
@tommolewis3105
@tommolewis3105 Жыл бұрын
@@Zenan466It has an electric motor, it’s not the same “hybrid” as in a plug in Prius, but it is a hybrid.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
​@@tedarcher9120what about 120bhp with Mapping 8?
@DTFFP
@DTFFP Жыл бұрын
@@tommolewis3105 It's just a 48V mild-hybrid system with an electrified turbo. It isn't anywhere near an active hybrid system like the one the C63 will have. It's got a small electric motor that assist the ice in a very limited form, and a battery to feed that and the electrified turbocharger.
@JacobHall1601
@JacobHall1601 Жыл бұрын
B58 is such an outstanding engine
@TheLastRide88
@TheLastRide88 Жыл бұрын
The M340i is legendary. Had the 2020 M340ix (AWD) and it was the best car I ever owned. I now have the x3m but hands down the M340ix gave me absolute excitement.
@b1gd312
@b1gd312 Жыл бұрын
I drove an M240i and M340i back to back, the 2 was much more fun agility wise with same power plant.
@jrlane567
@jrlane567 Жыл бұрын
@@b1gd312different chassis and 2 door. Same motor
@tricktreat688
@tricktreat688 Жыл бұрын
@@b1gd312which year M240i?
@blazesmooth5573
@blazesmooth5573 Жыл бұрын
there is only one generation of the m240i@@tricktreat688
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
​@@tricktreat6882021.
@_.crzzyy._
@_.crzzyy._ Жыл бұрын
m340i is king, the b58 is unstoppable.
@iwhineTL
@iwhineTL Жыл бұрын
Mercedes "Pure AMG, Hand crafted, F1 technology C43!" BMW "I don't even think about you.." Good ole B58 FTW. 😆
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
True.
@MegaRetr
@MegaRetr Жыл бұрын
The M340i is just a beast
@StealthGamer_45
@StealthGamer_45 10 ай бұрын
the m340i is just amazing!
@MrQuashu
@MrQuashu Жыл бұрын
As a owner of M340i I can just say it's best all rounder You can buy.
@nathanwright4967
@nathanwright4967 Жыл бұрын
The M340i is my favorite Beamer right now. Perfect blend of performance and luxury, and WAY better looking than the current M3/M4.
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 Жыл бұрын
Same...and with a few minor aesthetic mods it becomes picture PERFECT...front lip, small boot spoiler..subtle side skirts, and you can upgrade to quad exhaust with a lovely and modest diffuser 👌🏽😍
@blazesmooth5573
@blazesmooth5573 Жыл бұрын
m3 looks much more aggressive and sharp
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 Жыл бұрын
@@blazesmooth5573 No arguments there..the M3 is def much more BOLD and agressive and viciously in your face in a subjective way which I honestlty do find appealing..but what we're talking about here is a mixture of classiness and sportiness with a nice dose of classic BMW lines....
@Audikeeef
@Audikeeef Жыл бұрын
That output in that BMW is crazy
@01gtbdaily30
@01gtbdaily30 Жыл бұрын
Even with the C43 being close on performance off the show room floor they aren’t leaving much on the table for tuners if they are already pulling 400 hp out of their engine. If you took all three cars in for a dyno session and quick tune I’d imagine the BMW and Audi would get much quicker .
@Xenon0000000000001
@Xenon0000000000001 Жыл бұрын
The same engine gives 421 hp in the A45S and it looks like a stage 1 tune will get you up to around 460, so it's not bad. If you want to go much higher than that, I'd imagine it would be much easier with the BMW (I've no idea about the Audi).
@MrMlbfan6
@MrMlbfan6 Жыл бұрын
@@Xenon0000000000001remember they can easily make 500 plus with the b58
@Xenon0000000000001
@Xenon0000000000001 Жыл бұрын
@@MrMlbfan6 With a quick tune and no other mods?
@musclecarenjoyer
@musclecarenjoyer Жыл бұрын
⁠@@Xenon0000000000001the audis are in between the two ive seen anywhere from 480-500
@ak_sprite
@ak_sprite Жыл бұрын
Going to need a downpipe and a little bit of ethanol.
@hardykornfeld1733
@hardykornfeld1733 Жыл бұрын
If my B9 Audi S4 died today, I’d probably get the M340i. That won’t happen soon as the S4 has had zero unscheduled repairs in its first 57,000 miles. My main gripe with the BMW is iDrive 8 which we have in our i4. That interface is okay for a BEV but not a sporty sedan. The Audi cabin is superb and the dash can be configured with a proper central, round tachometer with digital MPH and gear position in the center.
@baoquoc3710
@baoquoc3710 Жыл бұрын
The M340i is truly everyone's "sweet darling" of German performance car apex
@CanadianMax
@CanadianMax Жыл бұрын
If my b9.5 S4 died today, I would take public transport till the new S4 arrives next year:)
@carsandcovfefe
@carsandcovfefe Жыл бұрын
There won't be a new S4. S4 and S5 are being consolidated into one S5 model@@CanadianMax
@CanadianMax
@CanadianMax Жыл бұрын
@@carsandcovfefe yeah, I read the same but all still rumours.
@blazesmooth5573
@blazesmooth5573 Жыл бұрын
@@carsandcovfefe Doubt it knowing there's the new rs4 comp
@JesusSanchez-ql6zr
@JesusSanchez-ql6zr Жыл бұрын
I just got my M240i and that engine is underrated. I put a new exhaust and intake this engine is a beast. It just launches and pulls
@daxiongBaoli-xu8in
@daxiongBaoli-xu8in Жыл бұрын
Try bm3
@utb8536
@utb8536 Жыл бұрын
Do you regret xdrive on it?
@daxiongBaoli-xu8in
@daxiongBaoli-xu8in Жыл бұрын
@@utb8536 🙃
@mustafaalattar775
@mustafaalattar775 Жыл бұрын
crazy how good the Audi is keeping up considering its an older generation compared to the other 2 especially the mere
@chrisjames4711
@chrisjames4711 Жыл бұрын
So happy I have a (2019) C43 from before they put a 4 cylinder in it. It's still not beating the M340i in a race, or on the track... but I'm never racing anyone, or on the track, so it's absolutely quick enough, agile enough, and sounds impressive enough for me to have a lot of fun and show off too. I saw people in the comments wondering why someone would ever buy a C43 over a M340i. Honestly I test drove them all, and instantly fell in love when I was behind the wheel of the C43. It sounded best, looked best (especially the interior), had a panoramic dual sunroof unlike the others, and the features like adaptive cruise control were available on a lot of used ones - I looked a LOT of used M340i's and couldn't find not one with adaptive cruise control, so that was a deal breaker. They're all dope cars to me. Well, not anymore since AMG went 4 cylinder lol.
@yvescormier408
@yvescormier408 Жыл бұрын
This! I also have a 2019 C43. It’s fun AF to drive. The sound from the performance exhaust still makes me smile every time. Too bad they are making the engines smaller all across the board.
@chrisjames4711
@chrisjames4711 Жыл бұрын
@@yvescormier408 every single time lol 💪🏾
@themercedestraveler9566
@themercedestraveler9566 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Had the 2020 and now 2023 c43. Still wouldn't go for the m340i. Test drove them twice, and just like throttle house said years ago, it just feels like a 330i with more hp. It wasn't enough feeling for me to pick over the c43. Both times.
@CK-ct6eo
@CK-ct6eo Жыл бұрын
Totally agree...I have my 2018 C43 as my daily and so much fun. I also drove the test drove a 340 and 540. They are great but just weren't as fun. Interior in the 43 is much nicer in my opinion
@horismainza7808
@horismainza7808 Жыл бұрын
Thomas's faces just before reaching the finishing line added a couple of Horse Power😂😂😂😂
@horismainza7808
@horismainza7808 Жыл бұрын
@jak-gm7zg I am a christian mate and that's that
@Edusaab
@Edusaab Жыл бұрын
it will be interesting to do a comparison of the current C43 VS old c43 to see how it goes, considering the buzz is going around on the matter...
@themercedestraveler9566
@themercedestraveler9566 Жыл бұрын
I think the comparisons have been talked about already many times.
@AYO_KO
@AYO_KO Жыл бұрын
They’re both bad😂
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
​@@themercedestraveler9566what about comparison between C43 vs KPGC110 vs Amuse S2000 GT1?
@DTFFP
@DTFFP Жыл бұрын
It's already been done, the old C43 is faster
@thembalethudube3274
@thembalethudube3274 Жыл бұрын
All 3 are decent cars, but the M340i has the X factor. Thanks for an interesting comparison guys🙂👊👊👌
@nickpurdy69
@nickpurdy69 Жыл бұрын
Oh it comes with twitter?
@483SGT
@483SGT Жыл бұрын
It's not an xdrive tho
@chrisburry8147
@chrisburry8147 Жыл бұрын
@@483SGT yes it is
@ChR0nos_7734
@ChR0nos_7734 Жыл бұрын
@@483SGT I think you can't have M340i with RWD. Maybe you could in F30, but all G20 M340i's are xDrive
@DownsJones
@DownsJones Жыл бұрын
@@ChR0nos_7734 In the US you have the option of RWD
@2tx722
@2tx722 Жыл бұрын
I like these 2 guys. They're brutally blunt & honest. They give you raw, & even shocking facts, opinions, & results of testing💥🔥🎯🎯!
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
Agree.
@KJMGarage
@KJMGarage Жыл бұрын
I work for a place that might sell that car with the three points and I got the chance to drive it and everything he says about is 100% accurate. Bring back the V8s
@Abc1987
@Abc1987 Жыл бұрын
Feeling validated for getting the x3 m40i. It ended up being nearly same price but in USA much faster delivery than the m340i
@Mr.Lambert777
@Mr.Lambert777 Жыл бұрын
Same. I ordered my x3M40i back in October..received it last dec as a 23 model. I love it.
@1bojanbojan
@1bojanbojan Жыл бұрын
M340I the best looks, sound, interior….B58 FTW
@B58luja23
@B58luja23 Жыл бұрын
In the building
@heinman6250
@heinman6250 Жыл бұрын
Not interior
@mk2001c
@mk2001c Жыл бұрын
I’d still take the S5. Best looking of the bunch.
@snakeeyes9246
@snakeeyes9246 Жыл бұрын
My dad had a 2021 model in Turbo Blue. It's awesome. Great looking, practical, and drives very well.
@leonardyoung2126
@leonardyoung2126 Жыл бұрын
Feels so damn good to watch this after you just bought the new LCI m340i
@PastGear
@PastGear Жыл бұрын
The Audi is by far the oldest vehicle here. When they release the next iteration this will be a very interesting race... can't wait to see it!
@CanadianMax
@CanadianMax Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@yousufzahid6949
@yousufzahid6949 Жыл бұрын
Rumors also have it that even the S-Cars will retain the V6!
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
​@@yousufzahid6949my thought also exactly.
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan Жыл бұрын
The Audi S5 is still a good car to consider because I love the sportback design, and the V6 still sounds awesome in that car.
@troya.8094
@troya.8094 Жыл бұрын
S5 still surprisingly performed well enough but Is the 2023 S5 not out yet??
@adamvolasko225
@adamvolasko225 Жыл бұрын
I would really like some telemetry data with 0-60 and 1/4 mile times in these shootouts. I'm a bit shocked these new C classes are so poor, its almost like the engineers collectively agreed to make the car junk to force the higher ups at Mercedes to bring back the V8!
@nirfz
@nirfz Жыл бұрын
That won't happen, they rather scrap all ICE engines completely than doing that. (and sadly rather kill the company) The fuel consumption over the whole sold modelrange dictates them to "lower theoretical fuel consumption" and they are going the way the former CEO steered towards and the current doesn't want to stray from. Mana strange and bad decisions in my opinion in the last few years from the Mercedes management.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
It wont happen.
@SaintGambrinus
@SaintGambrinus Жыл бұрын
It’s a shame about the new C43. The previous generation is such a fun and engaging daily driver.
@themercedestraveler9566
@themercedestraveler9566 Жыл бұрын
I have both 2020 c43 and new 2023 c43. I actually think the 23 c43 is a lot of fun. The steering and handling is loads better then the 2020.
@Boguardis
@Boguardis Жыл бұрын
how so?@@themercedestraveler9566
@seanphan2373
@seanphan2373 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I have a 2023 M3 and a 2023 C43. I did test drive a M340i as well. I love the speed on the BMW 100%. Though, BMW lacks interior in my opinion. The 2023 M340i and the BMW's new long tablet infotainment is going to be such a played out thing. Even the 2024 Hyundai Sonata is going to look like a BMW. With that said, yes BMW is faster but not by a ton. I think Mercedes did a great job at making a comfy car first and performance second. For a 4 Cylinder, it sure doesn't feel like it. Feels like it pulls harder than the M340i I test drove. (but on paper it doesn't). @@themercedestraveler9566
@bolivarjrmatos1803
@bolivarjrmatos1803 Жыл бұрын
I still like the Benz !!!
@jeefthebeef-21wrx
@jeefthebeef-21wrx Жыл бұрын
Each generation of this trio that they race just confirms which car I'm getting next 😂
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 Жыл бұрын
BMW all the way my brother
@vedranilic2271
@vedranilic2271 Жыл бұрын
​@@boondockbwoy14Audi all way just because BMW looks like shit
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 Жыл бұрын
@@vedranilic2271 Sad to know the facts my boy?
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan Жыл бұрын
As much as I love the Audi S5, there is no denying the monster that is the BMW M340i. That thing is just quick and ferocious when it comes to performance. The B58 3.0L in-line 6 should be praised. The M340i is still the king of the compact luxury sport sedan no questions asked. Why get an M3 when this is all you need?? I would still consider the S5 for sure, but the C43? It’s hard to want it when it has a 4-cylinder, it’s a hybrid and it’s just kind of disappointing. It’s not horrible but just not what AMG is and should be about. There’s just too much engine technology that it makes the M340i and S5 seem like the Toyotas of the segment, they’re more reliable for sure. It’s also the tuning. BMW and Audi are using the same ZF 8-speed but BMW makes it feel almost like a dual clutch and the ratios are super close together to ensure the power is there. It’s still good in the Audi S5 but not quite as quick I would say. Then with the C43, there are so many gears that it almost feels like ZF’s 9-speed where there a lot of delay to ensure you can get passing power. Combine that with all the tech, the transmission will be too confused on where to put down the power.
@rickzagor
@rickzagor Жыл бұрын
Had the 43 for a few months. I don’t understand all this slander. I love it. I didn’t want the fastest car. I just wanted a quick, luxury, sporty daily
@PsychicMedium4747
@PsychicMedium4747 Жыл бұрын
I love these two a million times better than those other two knuckle heads Yuri and his side kick…cannot stand those two. I love Thomas and James….so professional.
@853massey
@853massey Жыл бұрын
4 cyl for that class? Quite never, ever. Bummer. Great video as always!
@jdavidblais
@jdavidblais Жыл бұрын
I remembered an old throttle house video about a 2018 GLA45 and tomas seem to had a freakin good time !! First gen was awesome btw !!
@dlevi67
@dlevi67 Жыл бұрын
"You technically podium'd" - I was rolling with laughter.
@Jwdude123
@Jwdude123 2 ай бұрын
Traded my AMG C43 for a BMW M340ix. Never looked back. Legendary B58 inline turbo 6.
@jiggerkandola9400
@jiggerkandola9400 2 ай бұрын
Good boy
@anxiousengineer
@anxiousengineer Жыл бұрын
I love my m340 more and more each day!
@teej5619
@teej5619 Жыл бұрын
You should! It's a very good car and it looks good as well. Coming from a hard core VAG fan, but I love how far BMW has come with how great the cars are to drive... I just wish across the lineup they looked a lot better, because otherwise they're pretty much perfect
@teej5619
@teej5619 Жыл бұрын
@jak-gm7zg Sir, this is a Burger King.....
@Scorpion-king-c8q
@Scorpion-king-c8q Жыл бұрын
I have the 2024 SQ5. I have Owned quite a few BMWs prior. My inclination towards S5 is due to better comfort and interior. Same reason to pick SQ5 over x3 m40i. Performance wise we are talking under half a second.
@seinsmeld13
@seinsmeld13 Жыл бұрын
I had 2 previous S4s a 2013 and a 2010. Both great cars with spectacular engines. I miss them.🥶
@Black-nf3tx
@Black-nf3tx 9 ай бұрын
I have a 2016 s4 with 102k miles and love it. Only thing I want to change is to make the supercharger a tad bit louder
@isaacbenjamin389
@isaacbenjamin389 Жыл бұрын
I love my M340i. For my daily driver its currently the best.
@0brand0brand34
@0brand0brand34 Жыл бұрын
B58 is legendary. Why ANYONE would spend their hard earned on anything other than the B58 is a mystery. People who know, are chuckling to themselves.
@MrBionicMonkey
@MrBionicMonkey 10 ай бұрын
Safe to say I’m glad I bought a M340i last month 😅
@alexjaspard6135
@alexjaspard6135 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos ! Keep going
@Quickshiftclub
@Quickshiftclub Жыл бұрын
This video is out! It was great to see this race live. BMW is still king!
@basithph8958
@basithph8958 Жыл бұрын
M340i easily best premium compact sports sedan on the market
@DPCcars
@DPCcars Жыл бұрын
Great points made in the comments! 👏 As someone who's passionate about cars, I gotta say-the B58 engine is a masterpiece of engineering. But let's not forget the M340i. It's the yardstick in its class for a reason-amazing blend of performance and luxury. On the other hand, I share the sentiment about Mercedes losing its touch. Best Mercedes for me was undoubtedly the C63 with the naturally aspirated 6.2L V8 and I currently have the pre facelift 2009 version. Raw power paired with German engineering-what more could you ask for? The 2003-2020 era was a golden age for the brand, and it's disappointing to see them veer off course. As a Mercedes customer, it feels like they're neglecting their roots, opting for tech gimmicks over pure driving exhilaration.
@awaisakram8573
@awaisakram8573 Жыл бұрын
An important detail to mention is that the Audi is like 9% cheaper than both the Beamer and Mercedes shown in the vid and was basically neck and neck with the most expensive car in the vid. If you’re a bang for buck kinda guy, there’s only one pick.
@Chris-jt4ux
@Chris-jt4ux Жыл бұрын
lmao no, it aint.
@sanchaynarain3532
@sanchaynarain3532 Жыл бұрын
B58 inline 6 FTW 👑👑
@joep4224
@joep4224 Жыл бұрын
Great video gang.
@shaheens9837
@shaheens9837 Жыл бұрын
Everything considered, that M340i is one of the best BMWs on sale
@spicysnowman8886
@spicysnowman8886 Жыл бұрын
I'd argue it's the best
@matt1980420
@matt1980420 Жыл бұрын
1:44 "And uhh, I'm pretty sure the transmission and the engine speak 2 totally different languages"
@Cizzoe
@Cizzoe Жыл бұрын
i have a choice to buy all of these but out the door price was 80k for the M340, 66k for the C43 and S5 wasn’t happy with it, so didn’t ask, ended up buy a TLX Type S and honestly can’t be happier
@DanDan-tt6gv
@DanDan-tt6gv Жыл бұрын
Great buy, for Acura lasts if well taken care of, and parts and maintenance is cheaper than the counterparts. Sadly, the TLX looks amazing, but it is slow.
@Cizzoe
@Cizzoe Жыл бұрын
@@DanDan-tt6gvyeah it’s a slow boy, but i been looking around and with a TB, DP, Stage 1 tune and intake, you can drop that 4.9-5.9 seconds ( depending which model you got ) to 3.5 which is good enough for me haha
@Cizzoe
@Cizzoe Жыл бұрын
@@DanDan-tt6gvand i love the daily aspect of this car, sport Plus fucking amazing, Confort even BETTER, even with the harsh road of nyc i be as comfortable as a E class
@DanDan-tt6gv
@DanDan-tt6gv Жыл бұрын
Good for you man, that Acura is gorgeous, and 0-60 in 3.5 is awesome! I want to tune my X7 so bad, but voiding the warranty is a big issue. My husband has the ‘20 M760i so that satisfies my cravings for having a fast car, when I am able to take it away from him ;-). I was going to get the M5 comp, but I have to haul kids around, so…
@Cizzoe
@Cizzoe Жыл бұрын
@@DanDan-tt6gv if ur issue is voiding the warranty, then don’t do it, wait until it’s over, cause i work at benz and have friends that work at bmw across the street, BMW is WAY more expensive to maintain, it’s crazy 😭 but if you already got some fun cars to drive, keep the x7 as the daily M5 are the ONLY bmw i’ll ever buy, i don’t even like bmw and i can a great car when i see one, after this tlx, im trade it in and put some cash down and get myself a E63s, i need one of those in my life 🙏
@dnzry2218
@dnzry2218 Жыл бұрын
That S5 is almost 7 years old now with that generation and still pulls up quite well.
@lucatheecreator
@lucatheecreator Жыл бұрын
and with “just” 350 ps it keeps up. that’s amazing
@moneymagazyn
@moneymagazyn Жыл бұрын
revving the c43 made me laugh lol
@themercedestraveler9566
@themercedestraveler9566 Жыл бұрын
He's just messing about or canadian spec is different. American spec sounds awesome, search youtube for vids.
@koinu5811
@koinu5811 11 ай бұрын
@@themercedestraveler9566previous gen c43 sounded awesome. this new 4 cylinder sounds horrible no matter where the car is from lol
@B1SQ1T
@B1SQ1T Жыл бұрын
I been waiting for another video w the M340i 🔥
@B1SQ1T
@B1SQ1T Жыл бұрын
@jak-gm7zg allahu Akbar..?
@dinosestito4582
@dinosestito4582 11 ай бұрын
I went to Budds BMW looking at a 2021 M2 and I left as a new owner of a 2024 M2. Seeing it in person and right up against the 2021 M2 sealed the deal plus i wanted something that could be a daily driver which the new M2 is more capable.
@vindevhunta4905
@vindevhunta4905 Жыл бұрын
Pre lci 340i Previous gen v6 c43 Audi looks sleek inside out
@darkzmith3732
@darkzmith3732 Жыл бұрын
We can revisit this when and if Audi ever changes the s5
@imkirbo3094
@imkirbo3094 Жыл бұрын
We already knew what was the superiour luxury sports sedan before even watching it 😂
@ginco_bnz
@ginco_bnz Жыл бұрын
Yep, it’s the Benz.
@Tm0n3y762
@Tm0n3y762 Жыл бұрын
@@ginco_bnzdid we watch the same video ?
@ThatsCrazy12354
@ThatsCrazy12354 Жыл бұрын
@@Tm0n3y762lolll
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 Жыл бұрын
Lol so true 😂😂
@heinman6250
@heinman6250 Жыл бұрын
Id just buy the W205 C43. Most fun to drive
@edgarmkrtchyan7254
@edgarmkrtchyan7254 10 ай бұрын
That Audi A5 is so elegant , classy not for everyone
@ruiqianren9405
@ruiqianren9405 Жыл бұрын
As a 2017 c43 owner, the new c43 is the only one of the three I won't consider
@CK-ct6eo
@CK-ct6eo Жыл бұрын
Yup...hold on to your 2017 as long as you can
@CanadianMax
@CanadianMax Жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always. Kudos to that end-of-life Audi for hanging with the big guns. Lol @ Audi claiming 349hp
@dewaynesummers8105
@dewaynesummers8105 Жыл бұрын
The M340i is in a class if it’s own. I can’t wait until I tune mine.
@pkt1213
@pkt1213 Жыл бұрын
I would still buy the S5, particularly if I lived in the great white north based on price alone. Best looking car of the bunch. All 3 are fast, we get it. 😀
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 Жыл бұрын
Looks are subjective though boss man..the M340i to me is the sportier sharper and more sleekest looking but another might say dif 🤷🏽‍♂
@reeceatkins5560
@reeceatkins5560 Жыл бұрын
They sound incredible for how numb they are. B9 s4 and s5s are grenades. For the love of god do not ever buy a 3.0 turbo Audi unless you perform every service to a T and are still ready to spend 20gs just in case.
@Modular.Acumen
@Modular.Acumen 9 ай бұрын
Nothing can beat a BMW for the performance section.
@Skeppyberry
@Skeppyberry Жыл бұрын
can't wait for the new gen S5
@C-M-E
@C-M-E Жыл бұрын
AMG and Factory Compromised aren't words you typically hear in the same sentence, but couldn't agree more. You'd think they were aiming for the Taxi market and that's as far as they evolved the model. On the plus side, you've got a wonderful Field of Dreams drag strip motiff going in this one. _If you race it, they will come_
@jacobrev6567
@jacobrev6567 Жыл бұрын
Finally I been waiting for Throttle House Drag race this year
@ErwanYTube
@ErwanYTube Ай бұрын
I'm a proud owner of a 2019 C43 AMG coupe, and I wouldn't trade it for this newer C43 gen! The V6 sound, the exterior and interior still stand far superior. Mercedes is going down...
@ry-i-am3698
@ry-i-am3698 Жыл бұрын
"Because winners don't look back"...😂The merch/T-shirts these guys could come up with is endless
@thomasburns3345
@thomasburns3345 Жыл бұрын
The b58 is an all-time great. I have a f30 (prior gen) 340i MPPSK with the same transmission and very similar motor (m340i is a TU variant of my car’s) and my experience was that it was ahead of the s4/s5 and prior-gen C43 at the time (for speed, I personally think the Audi had the best interior, looks and tech). The s4 hasn’t changed materially and this c43 seems worse. My point is this: BMW is about a generation ahead of the competition, and now Mercedes appear to have miscalculated on their rebuttal. Audi, ball is in your corner. I hope for Audi to present a true contender, as much as I love the 340i, and how good the m340i is (I test drove). That’s how it keeps improving and winning is by being pushed by competition and it seems Mercedes whiffed. As a former Audi S4 owner (B8.5, I loved that car) I do wish the b9 was a little more exciting to drive. ea839 is a fine motor, but it doesn’t tune as well (you can hit 500 crank with two mods on f30 or one mod on g20 B58 powered cars once tuned for that mod) and the b58 has a lot more character. My main criticism of the m340i is weight, it’s 350 lbs heavier than my RWD f30. When test driving the m340i, it felt too similar to what I have already. (355 claimed vs 382 claimed, they’re both lies 😂) but 350 more lbs means it was close to a draw. I’d like to see Audi compete there as if they were closer in speed or tune-ability it might be the better car. Make a sportback S car with nearly 400hp (or dare I dream, over?) with that interior and tech and styling and you’d probably win me back. As long as it tuned well too. Currently the ea839 has too small a turbo to do much with sadly. Im happy to see these two knife fight into oblivion since it means we get better cars for it! Also Mercedes, the best course of action is to recognize that you failed the market (rather than the market failing you, it’s not that people don’t want sports sedans) and find a way to get a six back into your vehicle! It should be cheaper to make a high powered 6 and traditional auto than an insanely juiced 4-pot coupled with an electric drivetrain and that auto on top. Also less failure points… cheaper, faster, more reliable. I’m no car wizard but seems easy… Man I rambled. Love this segment of vehicle. Thanks for the content gents.
@utb8536
@utb8536 Жыл бұрын
True
@robsnow2099
@robsnow2099 Жыл бұрын
SPOILER ALERT!!!!! M340 wins! (Haven’t watched) I do love the S5 interior, oldie but goodie!
@9ine-69
@9ine-69 Жыл бұрын
That s5 looks gorgeous
@KarimMarei
@KarimMarei 9 ай бұрын
The 4 cylinder Mercedes is heavier than the 2 others that are 6 cyl?
@skylineownzful
@skylineownzful Жыл бұрын
340 whiped the floor with the c43. Cant wait to see the g80 eating that c63 as well. Well done Mercedes, you literally build that 2 cars that no one wanted.
@teacherarmflab
@teacherarmflab Жыл бұрын
I'm actually kind of glad that the Audi performed the way it did. I like the Audi brand way more out of all the German cars just because of the looks alone. Now that I see that it can compete with the other 2, I can't wait to see what the 2024, twin turbo, 444 HP making S5 Sport-back has in store ! I'm actually thinking of buying it in all honesty when it does come out regardless though lol.
@vikdrives
@vikdrives Жыл бұрын
I bought a c43 back in June and had the same reaction to the jerky transmission around town. I had to go in and they reset the transmission because apparently there was some weird software glitch on my car. Not sure if that would have made any difference in the race but I love my car. (definitely do wish they had just kept the 6 though)
@bartoszmiki6774
@bartoszmiki6774 Жыл бұрын
This is why you test drive a car first and wait for some reviews and read on forums.
@vikdrives
@vikdrives Жыл бұрын
@@bartoszmiki6774 I did test drive it. The one I test drove didn’t do it which is why I knew something was wrong when I picked mine up. No issues since
@Andy090216
@Andy090216 Жыл бұрын
I was deciding between C43 and 340i, but MB could not get me a car for test drive, so i've ordered 340i. Was bit sad since i like the C43 design more, but after all those reviews i saw for C class since it came out.... I do not regret ordering BMW, switch to 4 cylinder was a huge misstep for mercedes 😂
@vikdrives
@vikdrives Жыл бұрын
@@Andy090216 I understand why they did it and I don’t mind it in my daily driver because I have a v8 in my fun car. Truth be told, I don’t share the same enjoyment of the 3 series that everyone else seems to for some reason. It just felt disconnected for me. I feel like if it’s going to be your only car and you can’t live with the sound of a 4 cyl, go for the bmw but the 4 cyl definitely doesn’t deserve all the hate it’s getting
@paganizondasroadster1660
@paganizondasroadster1660 Жыл бұрын
@@vikdrives a straight six would be okay. What’s. A turbo 4 going to do?
@deathmark1940
@deathmark1940 Жыл бұрын
This bmw better looking and its fast
@pahul9449
@pahul9449 Жыл бұрын
Old c43 was never faster than the m340i. But it had sound, it was dramatic and fun. But now there’s no reason to pick benz over bmw in this category
@FULLSENDBRETT
@FULLSENDBRETT Жыл бұрын
Yeah, not like it took this video to confirm it. The m340i is as close to perfect as you can get. Not only is it by far the best looking car in its class, it destroys all competitor. The best sports car you can buy for the money.
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