2023 Austrian Grand Prix Race Review | P1 Podcast

[@mattp1tommy]

This was filmed before the penalties were announced, we'll be discussing further in our Driver Ratings video tomorrow!

[@Senoedit]

choosing Haas for biggest loser even though they got 4 points, they may of not got a good race result, but I'd say that's a win for them, got a good distance ahead of alfa and Williams now

[@barryomahony4983]

If the drivers "can't see the white lines" (although not a problem for some like Max and Alonso) they should just put up TECPRO barriers at all the corners. They can't not see those.

[@SujeetRaj711]

Wanted to hear Matt speak more about biggest loser with +30 sec penalty 😂😂😂

[@anushdev2619]

yeah i understand that maybe charles might have held on to sainz DRS but if they both had worked together and extended the lead ...but by letting sainz through they might have gotten rid of risk of perez catching them..maybe it would have been a different discussion with verstappen, but its perez so maybe they couldve had 2nd and 3rd on podium

[@coldes97]

Since a lot of announcements and changes are made within the hours after the race maybe you should hold off on recording the podcast at least for a few hours or even the next day? So you'll be able to discuss it directly

[@geetsthenerd]

This podcast didn't go off the rails, it exceeded track limits.

[@bassix-vu5qd]

I loved the moment when Hulkenberg got a black and white flag for track limits a few Laps after he DNF'd.

[@sebastianradecki9406]

He did get black and white flag Everyone gets the point tho

[@QwoaX]

Stop, stop! He's already dead!

[@bassix-vu5qd]

@@sebastianradecki9406 correct, youre right, sorry. that makes it even better

[@Sheamu5]

Guess he should've parked his car in the middle of the track

[@ImDirtyDan]

I thought that I had seen that, but at the same time I thought it was my brain playing a trick on me, I mean just imagine being Hulk back in the garage watching along and he sees that pop up

[@andrewcurtis4568]

How the hell can Tommy say Hulkenberg was a flop? He got into Q3 in BOTH qualifying sessions and scored 3 championship points. Hulk had a great race weekend.

[@Miniduck9013]

He gets a 10/10 for me

[@NickyDusse]

insane tbh, hulk had a great weekend

[@zulubunsen9067]

His car gave up under him. That's just bad luck, not flopping.

[@leotimtom6637]

Last lap in Austria- Max practices qualifying for Silverstone.

[@chromaticsoundco.7664]

Literally - fresh tires, out lap, hot lap, back to the pits.

[@AZBCDEE]

First comment from crystappen fangirl not crying about Lewis

[@sarius7687]

⁠@@AZBCDEEfirst comment a hamilton fan not using cry in every sentence, oh.. nvm that’s not possible

[@philliptiestopl1511]

REDBULL HAVE TO BE STOPPED THERE IN A DIFFERENT LEAGUE IT'S GETTING BORING NOW

[@ssifr3331]

@@philliptiestopl1511 Stop watching and touch some grass.

[@Theforth09]

I'm here to listen to p2 with Matt and tommy. The race was fun fia chaos and happy checo did well enough.

[@Csks]

It’s sad that I felt the exact same way about Checo😂. Hopefully this swings back in the right direction and he can challenge max in some races but I’m not gonna hold my breath.

[@tigerchuu2148]

Norris was not keeping up with Sainz though, they even played the radio message where Sainz said he was looking to keep Norris within one second to give him DRS so he could potentially help block Perez

[@mamavswild]

Sainz has such excellent race IQ

[@jonasschiefer626]

I think track limits is okay to penalize drivers, but it should be done quicker so drivers can actually react to it

[@foobar8894]

Yes, that's really the major problem. If they can fix that, the current rules are fine. But they need to be able to issue the warning within a lap or two.

[@dennisbrannvalls1fan964]

Petition to rename F1 to “Keeping up with the Verstappens”

[@HAbarneyWK]

I mean, it wasnt too hard to keep up with Jos😂

[@randomidiot6278]

Should be not keeping up with the verstappens

[@duuudde12]

Or.. the race to see which 2 are gonna join max on his after race talkshow. But that's a bit long winded

[@RufusBoi2008]

Podiums should be re-named the max verstappen podcast with guests

[@JDYTC]

@@RufusBoi2008 Yes lol! But let’s give it a little bit more flair and use a part of Niki Lauda’s famous quote: *_The Once in a Century Podcast_*

[@joostprins3381]

Max waving on the straights to warm his tires and Charles coming closer to lose 3 seconds in the last lap.

[@Versatilty]

I think we need to have a guest appearances from Katy to referee the points each week.

[@YourLoyalDeserter]

@@justinthaim8879yes thanks. We want Katy.

[@LednacekZ]

Most memorable moment: Hulkenberg getting black and white flag after he quit the race.

[@randomyoutubecommentersecu7639]

FIA: sometimes my genius is quite frightening. You see...They wanted him to DNF by parking in the middle of the track so they can raise another red flag but they couldn't so they raised a flag for him for managing to go outside the track.

[@albertopeixoto]

FIA were sending black and white and penalty warnings with a huge delay. So he probably got that for going off a few laps before.

[@kareema7855]

Alonso and Hamilton pioneered these DRS games way back in 2012 🐐

[@christianlagioia]

DRS is so artificial hated it when it got implemented ..hate it more each year.. its like oh there you go have my spot without putting in any skills or effort

[@Brookler]

If they enforced track limits like this all the time at other tracks too then drivers would learn quick

[@chiva4life17]

If it’s 1 driver going over track limits it’s the driver but if it’s over half of the grid then it’s the track imo like just extend the track limits or put gravel it’s an easy fix again it’s my opinion you might think it’s dumb but I just see it like that

[@mihajlovucinic011]

@@chiva4life17 or they could just stay inside the track?

[@Brookler]

@@chiva4life17 if its one person stealing then it's their fault. If its like over half the people stealing then it's the shops fault 🙄

[@GloomGaiGar]

@@chiva4life17 Drivers like Alonso never had any track limits issues since FP1. Other drivers are simply undisciplined.

[@shu6037]

you mean favor redbull and aston and penalise others without giving warnings? we already knew that nothing new

[@seven4221]

They should make the kerbs thinner and a bit higher on the outer edge, so the outer tyres go over the kerb edge, before the inner tyres cross the white line. This way, if they go over the white lines, they are in danger of bottoming out and losing time.

[@SaurabhSingh-fv1xs]

I have cropped both redbull and Ferrari shirts and attached them together, I will wear it with Mercedes cap. I am pro jinxer, will jinx them all. Alonso 33rd in Silverstone. Let's goooooooo🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168]

Alonso 33rd in Singapore, you heard it hear 1st

[@voddermucker5502]

lol x2. But yeah, if theres anyone i´d love to see get one over on Max and win one this season, its Fernado.

[@ayanchoudhury6697]

And then you see Lando Norris win it out of nowhere......or maybe Hulkenberg :p

[@voddermucker5502]

@@ayanchoudhury6697 lol, I wouldnt get mad over that either. goodwill-factor is high for all 3. How about Bottas winning one in an Alfa, whilst Hamilton hasnt won 1 in 2yrs? I´d love to see that, just for the memes.😁

[@ayanchoudhury6697]

@@voddermucker5502 ooooh I will love it if Hamilton doesn't even get a podium in his home race and see the British media meltdown and the plethora of memes 🤣

[@noblegamer871]

Thank you for the contents!!! You guys are great!

[@Syrilian]

I have no issues with the penalties. Keep it on the track.

[@shu6037]

same if penalties were given properly. most of the drivers didnt know they exceeded until they were penalised.

[@erikvermolen8371]

@@shu6037 is this true? Weren't they all penalised during the race with the first timepenalty? But then only for the additional timepenalties to be announced afterwards? Which I agree that is still wrong.

[@shu6037]

@@erikvermolen8371 at first drivers should get warnings from race control. then black and white flag. then penalty. some drivers didn't get any of the above before the penalty. they just waited for them to exceed enough times to penalise before contacting. penalties after the race ended is a different topic.

[@BOKtober]

If you ignore max running away with the sprint and the race win it was an amazing weekend of racing

[@falcovg2]

What do you mean max running away with the race win? The gap with Leclerc was only 5 seconds

[@greatsageclok-roo9013]

@@falcovg2 I hope that's sarcasm... Just in case it isn't: Max made a last second stop onto softs just to get the fastest lap. He was 22 seconds ahead before that and could have gone to the end comfortably. He just wanted to flex.

[@SDGRTX1455]

🤡

[@daarom3472]

​@@greatsageclok-roo9013omg didn't you see LeClerc pushing Max HARD to let him grain his tires forcing him into a late pitstop?

[@daarom3472]

amazing season really, possibly best I've ever seen race-wise. Sure 2012 and 2010 were exciting due to multiple race winners but most individual races were snoozefests with 0 overtaking.

[@naurozearora7284]

I don’t know why everyone is saying Max won Austria in 22 ? It was Leclerc. Sky got it wrong and even you guys got it wrong.

[@jipgamesnl]

I know the sprint was good, but I may have a better option for the sprintweekends? What if we do a quilifying saterday, and do reverse grid for the sprint? So max takes pole for sunday, and starts 20th in the sprint

[@meson183]

Track limits issue: Solution 1, find a way to give feedback to the driver so they can tell how close they are to track limits. Because part of the reason is they say they can't see properly to tell for sure. Solution 2, for Austria, on turns 9 and 10, instead of putting in a full gravel trap, put in a 1 metre wide strip of gravel 1.5m outside the track limit and leave the rest of the area as run off.

[@Huusmaan]

Put grass or gravel right next to kerbs, no more issues with tracklimits.

[@youafruitcup]

Personally my favorite race weekend of the year

[@jacobbarton6689]

i think saint might… MIGHT… have had a better chance against perez if they didn’t double stack. i also feel like lando wasn’t that much if a threat to sainz (by the end of the race at least)

[@Cloxxki]

Do that Ferrari poll again, now that we know how much more naughty Sainz was with track limits to seemingly get close to Leclerc.

[@qyxgames]

Sainz only got over track limits when he had to push after his disaster pit stop. Still his fault, but he had the pace

[@Cloxxki]

@@qyxgames Alonso list time on his late stop as well. Didn't lose any laps. He did that on purpose, because drivers actually can.

[@davidyoung9392]

The next update of F1 '23 will add an extra setting for corner cutting stringency: Regular, strict and Austria.

[@RobertLewis85]

Omg the background music is finally gone! Thank you guys, I was hearing that music in my head for days after watching your podcasts. I'm a huge fan of your podcast.

[@geniferteal4178]

Put cameras on the car that view the track and can see when the car goes Out of bounds then they can notify both the driver and the spectators Right away before the next lap I think if you immediately know each time you go out of bounds. It would help the situation at least it could be dealt with immediately.

[@TheDutchStarWarsGuy]

Thank you for taking my question! First time that happened. What I meant with it is that F1 and whoever makes the calendar seems to feel a need to put more street tracks on there and remove great normal circuits like Sepang, Hockenheim, Nürburgring etc. And I think we can all agree that those circuits provide for better racing than the endless street circuits with walls where overtaking seems impossible. Also, Matt, might want to work on your Dutch pronunciation if you take another question of mine in the future haha

[@edlib1651]

That track limits discussion was fully on point. Rules are simple and clear, and if you don't respect them, you will be punished. I don't understand anyone having a problem with it.

[@rdspam]

The problem is with the timing. Finding out your driver has been penalized and your race finishing position has changed, after landing at home in London late at night, isn’t acceptable. Can you imagine a Premiere League match or NFL game having the score changed hours later?

[@edlib1651]

@@rdspam Dude, you are missing the main point. If drivers didn't go over track limits, stewards wouldn't have to do anything!

[@Perceptious37]

the best sainz could have done vs leclerc is sainz possibly could have prevented max from pitting for fastest lap

[@jasonjansen9831]

Wonder if Sainz is having nightmares about Perez intimidating him

[@seanfreimond]

With the new positions the Sainz point is settled

[@Cloxxki]

He seemed faster than LEC thanks to three DRS zones and a few track limit excusions every lap. So so so impressive.

[@DJarr216]

So, I actually heard something interesting yesterday. They could just put a gravel trap between turn 9 & 10 and solve the whole track limits thing, but, F1 isn't the only one racing there. While gravel or a wall is great for F1, the red bull ring is also used by moto GP. All the good options to stop track limits for F1 are actual safety concerns for moto GP. For motorcycle races, the current concrete runoff is actually the better solution. The argument then went further that non-permanent tracks ( monaco, miami, ... ), they can build stuff for a race, then take it down and make money by using the space for something else. A permanent racetrack can only make money by having as many races on it as possible. So it makes sense that they build the track to allow racing for as many categories as possible. Just look at what the pandemic did, no races took places, permanent racetracks suffered immensely. Rather then a gravel trap or whatever, the better solution probably is to change the layout of the track at turn 9. The pitlane entry for the red bull ring isn't ideal either. So maybe 2 birds, 1 stone?

[@MFitz12]

Or run a street race like wall around the outside of 10. Problem solves itself quickly I imagine. If you give the drivers the room they will use it. Don't give them the room and they won't.

[@ezb77]

There should be a way to immediately make the breaking of the track limits visible to the viewer and the teams. Race Control couldn't keep up policing the violations. Or not even noticing them at all. That's what bothered me most. As a viewer I want to have the warning handed out seconds after it happened - not many laps later or even after the race... This would also be better for the driver, so he can adjust his driving style. I guess Hamilton and others collected a couple even before they knew they were doing it...

[@VanskyAlleria]

Funny. Tommy went for Carlos, biggest good surprise, but after the additional 5 sec penalty, he's only in 6th. And poor Ocon with his 30 sec of penalties.

[@shak1635]

Sainz stuck in pits behind teammate and 2 slow stops : poor him Stroll stuck behind Alonso and VSC ends while hes waiting : hes shit The constant Stroll bashing is insane, from the beginning of this channel

[@Jonah-Hosein]

To solve the track limits issues i feel you can take 3 different approaches. 1. Make the white lines wider so they're easier to see both from the drivers POV as well as cameras offboard. 2. Don't widen/thicken them keep them the same size as they are now but move them behind the red and white rumblestrips. Thus widening those areas of track by a car width, Improving racing room as well as flow for the drivers, all the while improving the penalty situation. 3. Install gravel traps, which as stated in other videos is dangerous and hampering for moto GP who share these tracks with F1.

[@shu6037]

they just need to police it properly and apply penalties almost instantly. giving every driver an official would be enough i think.

[@Halsning]

Carlos would not have been able to catch Max, but he was quicker than Charles during the entire race, without DRS - it's okay if they want to race as a team, but I will patiently wait for the moment where Carlos is infront of Charles, and if Charles is quicker they better have the same approach they had this week. If they want to have a first and second driver, the one that has been having better results and fewer mistakes (and is higher up in the championship) should be number one, not the other way around. Also, have fun at Silverstone!!!! We'll be watching ❤

[@voddermucker5502]

Either Carlos is underrated, or Charles is overrated. IMO Carlos has proven Charles is by no means the clearly the better driver.

[@Halsning]

@@voddermucker5502 Don't get me wrong, I think Charles is an incredible driver - but like you say, I do feel like Carlos is underrated. We've seen multiple times how he comes up with better strategies than the team, he's so smart and really really talented. And I feel like this season he's been better than Charles, who has made some really stupid mistakes. That's why I feel like it's not fair to always put Charles above Carlos.

[@timplett1]

Maybe just do some simple fact checking before making statements like "Carlos was faster the ENTIRE race". Just scroll back through the live timing and look at the gaps between Carlos and Charles throughout the race. Carlos lost out at the first pit stop, he came about a little over 6 seconds behind with a few cars between. From there he closed to within 5 seconds of Charles by the time he cleared the other cars, at which point Charles slowly but steadily pulled away from him. That trend continued throughout the race, there were some times when Carlos was faster, but also times Charles was faster. And end of the day, Charles was faster overall while actually staying on the track, so...

[@voddermucker5502]

@@Halsning Then we´re pretty much on the same page. I saw Carlos was a very talented driver from year 1 at torro rosso. He just had the misfortune of being overshadowed by an even bigger talent. PS: Sorry, but the avg. toddler can come up with better strategies than Ferrari... thats not much of a flex, lol 😉

[@Halsning]

​@@timplett1 Oh I'm very informed, thank you. You can't look at the gaps without any context. You can't compare Charles' race to Carlos, from the moment he was P2 he had a comfortable gap with Max and Checo, he could manage tires, he had CLEAN AIR. Of course he was faster, he had no one bothering him, why do we think Max has always such a big gap with whoever's second? Cause he's just chilling, clean air, better aerodynamics. You should also go and check every single time the track limit was exceded, because F1 were only checking turns 9 and 10 (you'd be surprised with how many drivers exceded the track limits and got no penalty whatsoever). It's unfair to say Carlos had more track limit penalties when Ferrari screwed him (twice) and he had to risk more to balance the time he lost in that god awful pit stop. Let's not forget what happened to him in Q1 and he still managed to finish P1 with just one time set. Carlos has been better so far this season, which is why it annoys me that he's always considered second.

[@mgers75]

The drivers werent out there trying not to break track limits. It a very tricky corner, Weirdly cambered, wind, turbulence, etc. The just need to take a sledgehammer to that secondary curb and replace it with grass or gravel. If they did that the curb would only be 3/4th of a car width and the grass/gravel would slow them down before they crossed the white line

[@rdspam]

The problem with track limits is enforcement. You can’t tell a driver many laps later that you have 5 violations. It needs to be detected and enforced very quickly. Adding 30 seconds for violations at 9pm isn’t acceptable.

[@SGstylerSG]

Have to agree on the ferrari situation carlos was the whole Race 5 sec behind charles after he got screwed same pace from both

[@chrisclee6693]

Really happy with the Track Limits violations. A long time coming and drivers are finally being policed properly.

[@derdude6139]

im with you the driver should be able to drive within the track but they should get punished faster so they know that it was worng and can correct that in the next lap not dont say anything and then give them 4 penaltys afterwards if they get the penalty in the race they drive more carefull buty why should they if they dont know it was a penalty

[@rurikvan]

So Carlos was driving behind Leclerc like Norris behind Carlos? Norris was there 'cause the drs, Carlos was showing himself in the breakings and was well under .5 sec most of the time...

[@drewrip]

Not to mention Carlos also kept Norris within DRS range to use as a defense against Perez. Unfortunately, Norris made a mistake and Perez got by him quickly. Matt has never given Carlos praise at Leclerc's expense though so nothing new from this channel

[@aberamagold7509]

HEY MATT, You probably know this, but in one of _Pit Stop Podcast's Freddy Hunt shorts_ they made him do the fastest lap challenge on their SIM. His time of 1:06.236 put him right below you.

[@gameofender4463]

Ocon went to Narnia and back in the race 😂

[@voddermucker5502]

yeah he was having a proper go at offroading , together with yuki, who was under the illusion he was still in that monstertruck. but in all fairness, any car looks huge at his size.

[@LilGril10]

Estie Bestie getting 30 seconds of penalty, Matt is curse working.

[@Mextreme666]

Why don't they place some tecpro barriers to prefent tracklimits and take it down after the race to please the Moto GP and all other track users. I think that might be the cheapest, quickest and easiest solution, in my simple mind. I must be wrong because I don't have a university degree.

[@knutpohl339]

The problem about policing track limits is not the act of exceeding track limits by the drivers, it's the point where race stewards don't manage to keep up with what is happening on track, give out a warning for track limits to a DNF car and dish out a handful of additional penalties after the race has finished and just upon protest of a team, ultimately changing nearly the entire race classification.

[@carocajiao]

Maybe Sainz would not have catched Verstappen, but he would've been the one on the podium. He lost when they gave the order to stay put, and then with the put stop stack.

[@Roguescienceguy]

The FIA is doing a good job for once so other than the speed of execution I have no complaints. Equip the cars with an extra sensor around the wheel arches and that could be fixed pretty quickly.

[@jaredsowder5760]

We need an update on the points for each!

[@cpthf3535]

regarding Verstappen not falling for the DRS chicken, it does help him the fact that he fell for it 3 times in bahrain 2022

[@spawnofapathy]

I think another thing affecting the Aston’s at this point of the season is upgrades are rolling out through the field. Some cars are getting them and doing better, some cars haven’t got them yet and might look worse by comparison. I think it will shake itself out and level off in a few races. I hope the sprint shootout was the turning point for Perez to get back to his potential. He should be in P2 waiting in the wings for Max to make a mistake or have a bit of bad luck so he can take P1. Just like the first several races this season.

[@BringbackHamVerBot]

Tommy is unhinged in this race review. Fearing for Matt’s safety. 😂

[@jbinaus1897]

Track owners can't just add walls or gravel everywhere and 'runoff/rejoin' is always better than the alternative. All classes rely on tyre grip, but F1 cars particularly rely on under floor downforce. So progressively remove the subfloor downforce behind the kerbs so there is no lap time advantage in 'accidentally' running wide........ 1200 times! If the floors are so sensitive, it must be possible to make a surface 'porous' enough to mess up F1 subfloor performance while other classes would hardly notice the difference - and if it happened to improve track/runoff drainage in that area as well.......

[@HenriquePereira-en9su]

Even if I like Leclerc a lot, Carlos has been so much more consistent. 2 great drivers for Ferrari. They just need to reach the next level, on the playing field of Verstappen, Hamilton and Alonso

[@LucasMueller18]

How do you know they aren’t? The Sf - 23 so how bad how it slides the rear is very loose, I don’t blame Sainz and Leclerc for crashing and loosing race positions. Cause Deg is just not there anymore. I think there is no way of telling

[@Fry_tag]

If Sainz had not fought Perez that hard in the end, he might have been able to stay in front of Alonso, even with the post race penalty

[@TheWookiee1977]

I love the purpose built circuits, but street circuits have their appeal. I don't typically watch NASCAR, but I watched the Chicago street race, last night & I actually enjoy it. I did; however, think that Indycar or F1 would have been much better around that street circuit. Especially since I was a wet/drying race. I think Jenson Button finished 20th.

[@Pedro285]

NASCAR was brilliant. I hardly ever watch it but .. wow. Fantastic racing, action everywhere, and history made with SVG winning on debut. Hard to beat ..

[@daniwalmsley611]

The problem with saying "oh sainz wouldn't have been any quicker they'd just be in a train again" is that if carlos couldnt make any head way on verstappen then they could always switch back... "if carlos was quicker then he wouldve just overtaken leclerc" he was given team orders not to attack, it wasnt just we wont tell charles to let you by, it was you will not overtake We saw with lando how good the drs was, so it is entirely possible that carlos wasnt faster than leclerc, but leclerc was struggling with rear grip on the first stint and carlos was only margginally slower on the later stints so its possible that carlos was quicker

[@fullymad2000]

put a moveable concrete or tecpro barrier on the exit of turn 10. Remove it for moto GP races. job done

[@rachelkoiks]

Hulk himself wasn’t the flop but had a flopped result because *HAAS was the biggest flop.*

[@kyl3dr]

You should just make a rule that guessing max for pole, winner, biggest good surprise, etc, not allowed this season

[@erikalvarez4516]

Next time there's a controversial corner the drivers should have a meeting and agree to exceed the limits every lap. I mean in all fairness I get it for safety they don't want to put big curbs or gravel traps or a wall there but it's the highest level of racing You got to have something. I mean don't get me wrong it's nice to have I run off at turn one compared to several cars getting beached in gravel and out of the race before the race even starts, but there has to be something. Perhaps more gritty surface that will give them extra grip to hang on and stay on the track but at the same time it would quickly eat up their tires as punishment. But I think the only solution that would fit everyone including MotoGP racers and other types of race car series is to modify the turn. Either put a chicane in there like Spain used to, open up the angle or tighten up the angle where drivers can't take it full out from turn 9 into 10.

[@zulubunsen9067]

Hulkenberg didn't flop in the race though. His car gave up but up to that point he was still going strong.

[@apophisstr6719]

I can't believe there're actually people defending drivers going over track limits, I mean, seriously?

[@cberns4]

The biggest complaint is not the track limit penalty. It’s not getting the penalty during the time of the race. If a driver can’t tell they are barely going over the line and not getting warnings. That is the issue

[@Barfyman362.]

What’s the record for most laps led in a row?

[@abbzsolo205]

I miss Katie she would balance things up

[@BunzingJeeper]

Lets be honest. Carlos got screwed. It should not be argued that he wouldn't have been able to catch up with Max. You don't know what will happen in the race and he was obviously quicker and could have pressured him more at that moment in the race...

[@markskate_24]

That's a fact. Max was crazy in Austria, but they should have tried the swap to see at least if it was true that carlos was a bit quicker. Anyways, Carlos got screwed by that first pit stop, so really sad for him😔

[@syndicategaming1668]

Max was clear of everyone. It’s true to a certain extent that you can’t predict what will happen, but saying he had a chance is taking it to an extreme level

[@markskate_24]

@@syndicategaming1668 exactly, I think there was no chance, purely because that car is a second per lap faster than anyone else, but I think the swap between the Ferraris would have helped Carlos to deal with those time penalties

[@timplett1]

​@@markskate_24alternatively he could've stayed on the track and not needed team help to deal with the penalties?

[@voddermucker5502]

@@timplett1 i could argue that... but dont wanna, lol. thumbs up for everyone but OP - Carlos pressuring Verstappen? I want whatever drug OP is having!

[@markeschen]

It wasn't good, but it was hardly the worst double stack of all time. Remember Bottas and Russell in "Sakhir" in 2020? Tires went onto the wrong car.

[@knutpohl339]

It is really a pity that you so often form an opinion and voice it so strongly without having a deeper look at things. Makes me really miss Chainbear dearly. For example, Lando did not "hang on for dear life" to the DRS when following Carlos, Carlos took it a notch down to keep Lando behind in the DRS range to hamper Perez progress. It was pretty obvious from a look at the live timing, and Carlos himself said so on the team radio. That is also the story behind the tow truck meme. (As mentioned by quite a few in the comments) That you two are still oblivious to this background info tells several podcasts post race tells me that you are dishing out content without doing any research in between. Which is a pity, because I like you guys - your style is very entertaining. If you'd evolve beyond the oblivious fanboy approach and towards thorough analysis, P1 would be awesome.

[@KarvidSR]

"just stay within the lines, they are the best drivers in the world". Tbh it says more about how bad the rule/track is. If only 2 o the best drivers IN THE WORLD managed to be inside the rules the whole race says a lot.

[@RurouTube]

I don't mind the track limit penalty. What I don't like is that the warning came too late. Normally you got a warning and doing it 3 times gives you a black and white flag. This time a lot of drivers ended up either already very close to the limit (as in getting black and white) or just a sudden 5s. How can you adjust your driving if the warning didn't come at a timely manner? And of course the driver can be very conservative at a certain corner, but I rather see drivers pushing than trying to be safe. Yes, if there is a wall they will avoid it, but a wall is very easy to spot vs a white line in relation with the tires. In Austria, I don't think it is a case about driver abusing the white line. They know that they are going to be penalized when going off too many times, but it is simply hard to do without an immediate warning because there is no wall as a cue, there is no surface difference as a cue, and during a battle, a driver obviously will push more, thus the likes of Max and Lec who is not really battling, they can pick and choose their line a bit easier. For Yuki, I think it is compounded by the fact that he is short. In previous years he also often times making those line infringement. The visibility on current cars is simply more worse and combined with him being short, he will have a harder time dialing his driving in relation to the lines. It can be done of course, but he will probably have a bit harder time vs others, especially on a track like Austria where a lot of drivers were also exceeding track limit AND it just happen that it was a sprint weekend and the condition from Saturday to Sunday was different, thus less practice time, less lime to adapt to a dry track. Perfect storm for tons of track limit infringement.

[@twigsagan3857]

The amount of times that I hear: "Ferrari doing Ferrari things" is mindblowing. And the worst part is that we ALL know what that sentence means. However since they don't seem to understand or do anything about it, to me, means they don't have a working internet connection in Maranello.

[@MrnXdK]

@18:00 Perez extended anyway in turn 1 during qualy

[@johnnychimpo7539]

They need to extent track limits on this track. It the drivers can use more of the track then let them all do it. It’s better for everyone

[@jeanpaulceulemans9973]

100%

[@BishoyWilliamFahmy]

Let us share our predictions please as Fans and driver ratings!

[@ehiracheta]

RocketpoweredMohawk should be your referee for points!

[@VHBEngines]

Max knew he was 23 seconds ahead of leclerc. Pretty sure he was watching the board while he was driving

[@JackieSussex]

The Go max podcast !

[@InfinteIdeas]

You should start picking the Pole/Winner among non-Verstappen drivers to make it more interesting

[@InfinteIdeas]

Hulkenberg doesn't get a flop, he scored points in the Sprint

[@claylmao]

haven’t seen the Matt copium come out that hard since we moved over , NO Carlos wouldn’t have caught Max BUT YES he was faster than Leclerc and both can be true 😂

[@GloomGaiGar]

But he was faster only because Leclerc was towing him. Honestly, both could have just towed each other and slowly crept up on Max. It was worth a shot.

[@derkaiser2274]

Umm no, Sainz can keep up with Leclerc and looks faster just because of drs. if they swap same thing will happen. Fred Vasseur also mentioned they already had a discussion to maintain the position before the start of the race.

[@noahdommaschk]

Can you guys show the championship standings from the predictions? Its the only championship battle we have 😩

[@hermanfinkelstein5039]

Keep enforcing those track limits and eventually they figure it out. If drivers keep getting penalties left and right drivers will start behaving

[@adamtarnowski343]

Just put another line a car's width after the white one an make it out of something that punctures tires. Also, if Carlos was quicker he wouldn't end up like 17 seconds behind Charles and Charles wouldn't be on front row, I'm sorry but a 100% agreed with Matt, it was that triple DRS.

[@preethasjenarthan5411]

Not that he had to wait 5 seconds for Leclerc to be done with his pitstop, had to overtake 4 cars (was in a battle several times and Leclerc with no one) had the 5 seconds penalty (his fault) but really?? Easily can explain his gap and perhaps if he was given the lead, all that rushing to catch up and make stupid mistake’s would’ve been less. I don’t excuse Sainz for the penalties but it is what it is

[@andrewcurtis4568]

Regarding Max going for the fastest lap - last time I checked F1 is a POINTS competition and the goal is to try to win as many points as possible.

[@shu6037]

18:37 drivers didn't get the warnings as they should have from race control before penalties. they didn't know they exceeded that many times until they got the penalties. this isn't on drivers. it is purely on stewards. you being alonso fan showing here. not surprised.

[@tonTeufel]

Tommy has to give that point back for Sainz after he got those post race penalties

[@elaldo2382]

Is Tommy keeping that point for Sainz as a positive surprise after the extra penalties were announced?

[@ultramariogod]

I'm guessing for the next predictions, if there is a sprint race, you will have predictions for both the sprint and Sunday race

[@stevens8744]

"Come on both of us" - Matt 2023

[@415s30]

Albon said it was mainly the wind that caused them to go over.

[@jkliao6486]

The problem with the track limit saga is that they lack the proper tools to enforce it, be it better system to identify and process the infringement, or be it more people looking at this. What they are doing is trying to achieve sth with a far more backward system that it can't handle it, just like how we need proper PC to run modern games.

[@Mountain-Man-3000]

Calling Tommy Michael Masi??!! SICK BURN 🔥

[@pronoob5591]

Love your videos