2023 Bike Industry Madness: Should You Buy?

[@PeakTorque]

If your current one doesn't creak and fits well, don't change it. Risk a world of pain!

[@samspade1418]

I'll give you one better. If your current bike isn't earning you money, a new one isn't going to start doing so and that means an extra - what, five if you're lucky? - seconds saved on any ride is a pretty expensive example of consumer gullibility to "marketing over-hype".

[@teknonmy7210]

Mine was both of those things and more. Now I have to move internationally and couldn't keep it. Onwards and upwards to blowing more money on disc brakes and a ----ing D-shaped seatpost.

[@lunathedog3924]

@@kenlua6064 no

[@Formula369]

Specialized Tarmac SL6 rim brake is the last great rim brake bike made. With mechanical Ultegra and a set of winspace Hyper wheels, it will compete with any $15000 bike out there, and you can service it yourself! And at $3500 for the complete package, the value is off the charts.

[@RevelCris]

Sold my emonda and doing this exact build

[@DaveCM]

I have hydraulic discs and electronic shift and I can service it myself

[@Formula369]

@@DaveCM still hear of too many buddies not being able to shift because of a dead battery. I’d rather have increased dependability than a 0.00001” faster shift.

[@fitzgibbon01]

@@Formula369 overall di2 has been so much more reliable in terms of nailing every shift every time. Not much to set yourself a reminder to charge the di2 once a month or something

[@fitzgibbon01]

I do agree the sl6 rim is a very nice bike

[@beelzking]

I can't believe 6~9k is mid-range right now, these bikes pricing is just way too over inflated.

[@davidepetroni3137]

I've been cycling for almost 2 years, coming from the running world. Considering 6000 the start point of ''mid-range'' piece of kit still amaze me. Once I was complaining about 200 dollars shoes, now 160 euros tyres looks like a cheap solution for my bycicle. I still wonder if the all cycling market is under drug or all the components really value that much. I just know my google search is going more and more in Aliexpress... One day I already know I'll give it a try. I consider myself above average moneywise in Europe. I have no children, no family and I am an airline pilot. Still, 6000 euros is a lot for something that is so fragile everytime you use it. Help meeee

[@Junyuancreme]

I went for a buy from aliexpress. farsport air venti 56 wheels at around 1400 grams for 1200 bucks. elves falath pro disc (with stem fork) for 890 bucks (even had a beige no labelling design which i can posca or acrylic design later). bought it cause i had a freight coming in and wanted to take advantage of cheaper shipping costs that way. i knew that 2023 would bring a new model with uci approval but it would have been more expensiive for me. as for groupsets, well. i am waiting for prices to drop from excess and buy a 105 rotor and other parts (not yet decided) or wait for sensah to release their hydraulic disc brake version. but as you said, 6,000? hell nah.

[@michaelmechex]

@@Junyuancreme if you like the 2022 Falath then getting it was a good choice, there are some pics of the UCI approved 2023 version and it's a completely different bike and a bit weird looking in my opinion

[@gregorycanizzaro1701]

I Love my Ican Wheel-set 40 aero disc 240 DT Swiss. The wheels are true out of the box. Best bang for the buck

[@Junyuancreme]

@@michaelmechex It does look different on the computer design than on the actual frame. there are a few unboxing marketing videos from malaysia it seems. my only doubt for the 2022 frame is what RobbArmstrong mentioned that it reached a certain speed and stalled compared to one of his friends bikes at a descent; which usually meant that the aero part would be optimized in the newer version along with the engineering redundancies. but anyways, my ramblings. -_-

[@AdamEwart]

The explosion of the cost of 105 has to be the biggest cock up to come out of cycling in 2022. In my view, this will set the growth of cycling (the attraction of newcomers looking to buy a bike for whatever motivational reason they may have) right back on its haunches. No longer can someone walk into a shop to buy the "I want to get into cycling, but I don't want to spend a heap of money" first bike. All of a sudden, the $2000 option has become $4 or 5,000. Unless that person opts for a pos Clara group. All of a sudden, when lined up beside the cost of living in general, buying a pair of joggers, or spending $40 a week at the gym becomes a very viable fitness and mental release option. Just my thoughts, but cycling really has now become the exclusive domain of the upper middle to high income set.

[@Fordworldrallyfan]

More like the lower UPPER class 'income set'. 😉☹😡 When not even all that great (considering all of their problems, extraneous noises, etc.) rides out there can co$t $20K+ USD, it has gotten TOTALLY out of control, and yes, WILL kill the sport as a choice for those seeking fitness, unless they love the 'rolling Rolex/Patek Phillipe' status show-off aspect, or just cannot do said running or gym workouts due to injuries/etc.

[@AdamEwart]

@@Fordworldrallyfan my issue is how the elite bicycle pricing will affect the grassroots, Kmart type bikes. How long before your $400 Repco becomes $700 or 900?? Those kinds of dollars will cause many families to question whether Jimmy having a bicycle for Christmas really is a good idea. Like anything, stuff just gets more expensive, but it seems to me, bicycles are on a whole different curve entirely...

[@AdamEwart]

@ArbitraryInfluence the situations at the department stores you speak of is exactly what I'd meant with regards garden variety family/kid bikes. My reference to doubling in price was more aimed at the extra cost in owning the new 105. The inference being, where you had the option of Di2 in Ultegra/DA, 105 was always the very affordable option on a reasonable frame. Now 105 is worth three times the price, the cost of that affordable bike has just blown right out.

[@alexp247365]

Just pulled my SL3 out of retirement. Add new brake pads, new chain, new bar-tape. Rides like a dream.

[@TheMASDrummer]

Sl3 dura ace gang, rise up

[@2Calam]

Sworks sl4 here....plebs. 😅

[@fidel_cyclingaddicts5167]

Discovered cycling in 2020 during the pandemic summer. bought a brand new Cannondale CAAD12 2019 105. Great bike ( on my indoor trainer) last season 2022 I bought a trek emonda sl7 with sram force.. i do 2k miles a year as im a full time dad and employee so my teo bikes are more then enough for what im going to be doing. cant wait till 2023 season.

[@sventice]

Interesting video. I'm beginning to suspect that the marketing people who work for major bike brands don't actually know their market very well. I've been looking for a new endurance road bike lately, but have noticed that my 3-year old, alloy, completely suspension-free gravel bike with road wheels & tyres is about the same weight and rides more like a proper road bike than most of the newer endurance road bikes I've been looking at. For the moment, I've pretty much decided to just keep using this one as my go-to "road bike" and replace components as needed.

[@jarrodfife242]

I ordered a BMC frame SLR01 because they’ve had no issues and is a climbing bike. My Aeroad loves to creak in the saddle post and I’ve had it with it. I’ve had to clean and reapply carbon grease to it four times. So ordered the new frame set and will just swap all the parts over to the new frame.

[@mrmotomoto]

Walmart used to sell an in-house brand frame road bike with top end components for a reasonable price. It was cheaper to buy it and strip the components than to buy them separately. May have to see if it’s still available

[@troycollett8540]

You could also score a bargain on a 2022 model that your local bike shop will be keen to move

[@yoeddy0420]

I would definitely like to have an episode on the custom bikes that you said deserved its own. I am a big moots/titanium custom build bike fan and would love to get your tae on it all. Good stuff!!!

[@djiembefolaDan]

New sub here. Glad I bought a few new bikes right before Covid hit. Mostly Lynskey ti bikes with 105 and GRX groups, bought extra chainsets for experimenting with 1x and 2x. Saved a ton of money compared to now. Loving Ti bikes and learning to be my own mechanic. Bought extra alu wheelsets for road/gravel/singletrack use on my Lynskey GR300. Favorite setup is 650b x 47 gravel bike; can ride comfortably on most surfaces in rural northern New Mexico. Not a racer , just an old endurance guy. Cheers.

[@robertlight2370]

Hmm, aero frame with dropped seat stays, no fancy seat tube stuff, room for 28mm tyres and a small gap between the front tyre and the down tube - sounds like my 2017 Wilier Cento1. It’s a bit heavier than a 1kg frame, though.

[@Apex820]

I have 3 bikes now with over priced upgrades. I won’t be buying any new bikes for a long time. It’s just a good thing my wife doesn’t know how much all of it cost! 🤪🤛🏻

[@MeMurphy10Feb]

Thanks for the perspective….. back to the planning board 😂… the constant planning board

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

If you are after trickle down mid range propel... Buy the mid range propel. What's the defy got to do with it? (sorry)

[@slpproductions]

Or a TCR. The Defy's a very different animal - an endurance bike with some offroad capacity, not a straight road/race bike.

[@Cheesyfruitball]

Excellent video with great insight into the Asian brand market bikes, specifically. Thanks Chris! Just subbed as well. I don't know if it's just me, but I find your speaking cadence incredibly refreshing on YT. I feel like everyone is always trying to maximize every single second and therefore talk much faster, but it's very nice to NOT have experienced that here. Cheers and Merry Christmas!

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

Thanks for the sub!

[@RevelCris]

What did u mean for the wait 2-3 months for the Asian brands ? New molds coming out ?

[@TheGeddes1]

I think you’ll find he means they are the exact same manufacturers that the likes of Factor use for their frames, and once they’ve shipped a bunch to the likes of Factor they’ll start slapping their own labels on the same frame and sell it at a third of the price.

[@discbrakefan]

@@TheGeddes1 It’s not the same layup, just a similar mould

[@rayangelopalad6205]

You have a great channel chris miller. We need more of your videos. 💯

[@arnebollensen1017]

I got the Look 795 light of 2017 with a Campagnolo Super Record 12s mech. groupset. Campagnolo Bora Ultra 50 clincher wheelset . VISION METRON HANDLEBAR. SELLE ITALIA SLR CARBON BOOST DALLARA SADDLE size S. 6.5 kg : SINCE LAST YEAR ! NO DISC NO ELECTRONIC BLABLA. That's what it is. Regards from Germany. ❤🙂✌

[@jamesgage03]

I would also be very interested in a Custom bike review! No. 22 Bike Company, Baum, Custom Moots vs the bigger brand/cheaper titanium offerings like Ribble CGR etc.

[@GeneVilleneuve]

I so want a new bike and all the bikes I want are around $15k. As a father to two teenagers… it’s hard to justify but videos like these can at least help me dream. Great channel ! ❤

[@ronitdebnath]

Caad13 rim brake or disc brake, Contend SL, Emonda ALR all the bike most of us need. The premium alloy category.

[@DanTuber]

$9k should NOT be mid range..."if you know what i mean".

[@Max__apex]

2-3 k is mid range

[@DanTuber]

@@Max__apex in today's market that's budget entry level.

[@Unwavering137]

What's a reasonable amount of money to spend and expect a high quality, moderately spec.ed road bike that performs well and doesn't break the bank? I am sure that means many different things to many different people, but last time I checked, I don't have gobs of money shooting out of my ass. Anything over $3500.00 is one hell of a lot of cash to drop. I can get a decent bike for less than $2K. It won't have disc brakes or electronic shifting, but that's fine with me. Shimano wanting us all to pony up $1900.00 just for their entry level performance Groupset alone is apeshit crazy. I can get a mechanical shifting bike for that. If I spend upwards of $5K I want lots of bells and whistles. Why has the bike industry tried to jack-up prices for new bikes into the stratosphere during a recession?

[@ehrenfull]

​@@DanTuber I don't agree. A Tarmac SL 6 Sport 105's MSRP is 3500 and now it was possible to get it on sale for 2700ish € . Spec wise it would be more or less mid range to me, great carbon frame, performance geo etc. Maybe the group set would be considered upper entry level but the whole package is mid range to me. There's still some great entry level bikes for around 1k€, Canyon Endurace 105, Rose Pro SL 105, I think once you step up into carbon frame territory you enter "mid range"

[@Fordworldrallyfan]

@@DanTuber Not even. At this rate, that will be budget DEPARTMENT store range soon! 😡😡 These manufacturers really do want to see LESS and LESS people in the sport, going by their BS. There are only so many multi-millionaires (or above) on this planet, do they really think that they will get every single one of them on a $35K+ USD bike simply through 'status symbol' marketing?!?!

[@zacharymorford1846]

Thanks, fun to hear your perspective. I'd love to hear your thoughts on buying a higher-end road bike used.

[@anthonyrizzuto309]

Fantastic info Chris concerning the bike BS industry. This is why I’ve been holding off for a few years. The transition to disc brakes don’t sit well with me, I love my rim brakes 2015 Campagnolo Chorus group on my 2015 Focus Cayo. So the last few years have been looking for custom build. So I’m still sitting on the fence line regarding cost. Cheers Anthony

[@timtaylor9590]

hambini isnt sure about those dropped seat stays, but either way its not a big gain

[@ducman748996]

Colnago C64, Campagnolo Super Record Mechanical Groupset, Meilenstein Lightweight Clinchers, 23c tires, Colnago R41 carbon cockpit, this is how I future proof, the industry will push anything and everything….

[@Fordworldrallyfan]

If it is a RIM brake C64, it is hard to say that you have "future proofed", given this industry's assholic compulsion to make any and ALL rim brake wheels/rims vaporize off of the face of the Earth, as if they never existed at all for the last 120 years!! ☹👎👎👎👎😡

[@ducman748996]

@@Fordworldrallyfan so true, but, with the amount of disc brake riders that see my bike, hear how silent it is, feel how light it is, see how beautiful it looks, and see how simple it is to work on I have a feeling enough will get sick of the downsides of discs and the industry will flip again like rim brakes are “new” technology and the masses will follow… 👍🏽

[@2362marshall]

was looking at at de rosa idol for a second year junior rider , any input ?

[@Karollenart]

In 2021 I bought Canyon Ultimate CF 7.0 + custom climbing wheels (1300g). With Assioma pedals it weights 7.7kg. Rim breake. It costed me only 2500 euros. Now, if I would like to make a step forwerd I would need to pay 5 or 6k euros to get 7kg disc breake with DI2... (e.g., Ultimate SLX 9.0 with ultegra). Don't know when this happens :) I would really like to build my own bike with rim breake ultegra di2, but I don't know if it is worth it? (I mean buying parts separately...)

[@ArteUltra1195]

I honestly would not buy a rim brake bike anymore, and my current bike is a Canyon Ultimate 6,6kg rim brake bike.. Weight is the least important factor by bar, I will take better braking, wider tyres, more part selection and better resale value any day of the week

[@krisbowditch827]

Yeah I’ve seen a second hand rim brake trek emonda di2 dura ace 6.3 kgs on bike room for 2k .. for me that’s a real light weight race bike 👌

[@Karollenart]

@@ArteUltra1195 yeah, if I decide to buy a complete product from a shop, I will be forced to go disc, and this is not a bad thing after all; you are right, weight don't matter that much... (unless we get 9kg trek for 5k euros or something haha). I would add to your list that with disc breakes one can safely go with carbon wheels and latex tubes...

[@SherazChoudhary]

I built a Winspace SLC Rim Brake with Hyper 28mm rims and Ultegra Di2 (rim brakes). Great bike and since I built it myself, I know how to service every part and know it was well built to my specific taste! Building yourself is a challenge but it is also fun!

[@neilmckenna236]

Great catch up Chris and interesting topic. I am AGONISING over a new bike 🙈 doing my head in!!! Have a great Christmas 🎄 😀

[@banjo7127]

Future proofing was my biggest motivation when I got my new main bike in September - disc, integrated cables, mildly aero, electronic groupset and dropped stays. I had to compromise on the groupset but I got a 45% discount on the bike and Chorus Mechanical turned out to be nice and pretty lightweight so no big deal. I’ll just upgrade to Super Record in a few years once it’s properly wireless. Looking to get 5 years out of the frame until it becomes outdated.

[@robinjcaesar2578]

Is winspace a good bike to go for ?

[@mark_nz]

I just got a 2022 defy advanced pro 2 - love it. Yes its a touch heavier than the 2011 tarmac pro I came from - but I don't notice it tbh!! Spend $5k more to save 1kg on the bike, or just don't be a guts and eat less pies :)

[@EryPrihananto]

Yow I still ride my bike from 2012, and it enough for me

[@richardmulligan2540]

Same here….my 2012 Allez is just fine for me….I’ve looked online at prices for new ones but good lord….it’s just not worth it to me

[@hectorkidds9840]

I'm considering buying a new bike in 2023 to get something with ultegra mechanical and without fully integrated cables before these real world bikes are squeezed out of the market. Maybe a TCR for me. But maybe second hand, Giant do better than most at selling to people who don't ride, so lots of bikes sitting in garages for two years then getting sold after 200miles of use.

[@adamholliday3391]

Bear in mind that Colnago reached out to Hambini and explained that the new bike wasn't an aero bike and gave their reasoning for their design decisions. It's in the pinned comment of Hambini's video.

[@Markioe]

Is he talking about the ICAN A9 at 6:57?

[@Konzuug]

Should I buy 80mm deep wheels or is that just for flexing?

[@kpizzle1985]

Would like to see you ride and rate a Strada

[@leeharding8306]

If you have a bike that’s working ok I would keep it. Lots of new ones are worse than the ones they are replacing and heavier. Lot’s of new ones are poorly designed and need a recall or a thing shoved down the steerer tube so it doesn’t snap. Lastly the prices have gone up much more than inflation and it’s now a joke. The cycling industry has shot itself in foot and basically taken the piss out of it’s regular loyal customers and they aren’t happy. Especially as the new stuff is flawed and heavy. I can see a huge slump in sales coming.

[@luzikedy1]

Can anybody explain what Chris ment by “if you know what I mean” regarding Ican and Factor Ostro and why would I regret not waiting 2-3 months?

[@joedoe1455]

They break after 2 to 3 months

[@FlorianAbrahamson]

SEKA looks really intersesting also Winspace, seems hard to get in europe though.

[@Carlosediaz543]

Road bike got stollen a couple years ago had a i guess these days vintage CAAD12 with mechanical 105 and rim breaks. Brought it for 1,500 US Dollars and that was the best bike i've road and seen yet compared to anything in 2023 so i think plan moving forward at least for now it so custom build. Entry level and mid level road bike are stupid expensive. Don't get me started with specialized. The Allez is 1800 US Dollars for Tiagra and Ridiculous really outages in my opinion. I would have loved to see the Allez in a rim break version . Mechanical 105 is really all someone needs, especially now in 2023. Found that because of this shift in the market Canyon direct to consumers pricing is competitive very competitive. it seems that if you want a quality road bike in the 2,000 - 3,000 price point you need to build it.

[@SebastianR92]

2024 version comming soon? 👀

[@quantumdecoherence1289]

To think that you have to spend upwards of $3k to replace your bike annually is a good idea is just insane. Bike manufacturing marketing is total bullish*t. I have a 2005 Madone I've been riding and it still rides as good as day one with just upgraded components.

[@jamessankey01]

Nice one, thanks for that. Also thanks for the reference to Hambini's video on that colnago.

[@morganconey4814]

Tiagra is long overdue a refresh and it seems logical it will move to 11 speed. This will ultimately see the demise of 8 speed when Claris and Sora eventually gain a sprocket as well.

[@jacks23sparrow]

Under 2000 dollar Which one i buy Endurance road bike

[@aubreyxengland]

to that last point, full custom > off the shelf 10k road bike, any day & all day. It’ll last you longer and save you money in the long run, versus buying the “new next model” from xyz brand, year after year.

[@U.s.e.r.3493]

Full custom for $10k would be a bargain if you can get it. Would think $15-$20k+, minimum

[@aubreyxengland]

@@U.s.e.r.3493 that’s definitely true - some kind of compromise would need to be made to get in that price bracket. Maybe if we’re only talking framesets, or rolling chassis, then that’s another possibility.

[@cjohnson3836]

@@U.s.e.r.3493 Depends on material. Ti sure. Steel you can get custom starting around $3k US for frameset. Although that can go down significantly if you source internationally; See guys like Marino in Chile.

[@OldDavo1950]

All of this while interesting, disc brakes leave me cold. I dont need the BS braking performance. I dont go down hills like Nibali. So would like to see more rim brake options, and less of this intergration nonsense. I like to do my own bike maintenance, and alot of this fancy stuff is aimed at keeping bike shops in business and keeping the punters in the dark.

[@whizler]

4:23 My Giant Defy Advanced Pro 1, with its Advanced-Grade Composite carbon frame, Ultegra Di2, SR 1 36 carbon wheels is 9KG+?? Certainly doesn't feel like it...

[@Dali6266]

Thoughts on the Winspace 1500? Reviews seem to be positive & looks great. Thinking of doing my owe build with high end Shimano di2 group set.

[@jimbeam4683]

7:05 sounds like you should wait 2-3 months for a new model or something along those lines.

[@Dali6266]

Mmm! Yep May be a good idea to wait a few extra months 🤔

[@thetinusnl8834]

Excellent video, great info. I changed my priorities for a new bike that I planned on buying. Thank you very much, Australian Wilco Kelderman.

[@comedyman112]

So where's the low end? 2k usd?

[@gregvassilakos]

Watch your video with Michael Pryde again. The dropped-seat-stay design is not for aerodynamics. It's purpose is to add compliance to the frame to soften the ride.

[@user-d32658]

Keeping my 6 years old Emonda Durace which weighs 6.4 kg and looks great with the rim breaks. I couldn’t find anything which is better sofar. Besides that, I paid €3500 for the Emonda. Similar 2023 bicycles would cost me 4 times more, completely insane!

[@toshman696969]

Interesting take, I have a couple of custom dtc bikes and I am trying to decide on a gravel bike and it's so wierd because everything I see is same shit....was looking at moots actually

[@uknowbass]

Check out Burro bikes - custom titanium gravel bikes

[@rangersmith4652]

You'd be doing very well to shop for used bikes in 2023.

[@nationsnumber1chump]

I want a cervelo Soloist pretty bad

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

You should get a good one not a bad one. Unless it's a woman for a few hours

[@normanderson01]

I just bought the Ultegra Di2 version and it's Flippin amazing. Fast, comfortable, glides over chatter and just looks badass.

[@breathestrongcycling3672]

all todays "flagships" are tomorrows "wouldn't be seen dead on it"....hardly a place to spend big. Custom framesets would make more long term value for money sense.

[@michaeldance5734]

Enjoy your vids Chris Merry Christmas mate 🎉

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

Thanks, you too!

[@benjaminwolf9801]

Just going to buy a campy mechanical groupset, winspace wheelset, and a velobuild frameset. Done and dusted. I don't race and not a KOM contender.

[@discbrakefan]

For me the value of the frame is more about the ride quality and comfort than the outright speed. I actually think the frame quality matters more if you don’t race.

[@benjaminwolf9801]

@@discbrakefan a custom geo steel or titanium bike would be lovely. Maybe switch our the winspace wheels for some bomb proof hunt superdura aluminum wheels.

[@tommyfreckmann6857]

I'd check out a Colnago C40. Excellent frame quality, inside and the actual ride quality.

[@davidcole6893]

the stand alone price for 105 di2 Is extremely expensive but there seems to be some attractive offers for the complete bike . The same applies to Sram Rival.

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

I haven't gotten a new road bike since 2018 ha ha ha 🤣 I don't like disc . I did get cyclocross bikes but no road 🛣️ I don't like the idea that they had to rebuild bikes around the brake system.. It's as if you had a brake system and you wanted to create a bicycle around it. That's exactly what they did. So they needed to make the fork much stronger. The frame much stronger which added weight They needed to widen the rims widen the frame to allow for a wider foot pad because the system is too strong where it's placed. The centrical force is too much so you need a wider foot pad for it to work or it will slip.. They knew this and this is why they had to create a whole new bicycle because they wanted to push disc break These are not road bikes. They're basically gravel aerobikes.. I don't understand why they don't give us the option. Because they know that the consumers just going to choose the rim brake over the disc brake because that's exactly what was happening when they had both.. I saw this first hand because my friend has a bike shop so I saw who was buying what..

[@Max__apex]

Legend ….. me too. Got a 2nd hand giant 105 and keeping for 5 years. Cost 1k

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

@@Max__apex best way to get a bike is the way you did it.. you can find tuns of great quality rims and parts for nothing. I'm looking to build an old bike or find one already built..

[@Unwavering137]

That's right. I do not need disc brakes and electronic shifting. Give me a mechanical Ultegra/Chorus level road bike with rim brakes for $2K-3.5K and I'm happy. I also don't need carbon wheels they brake like crap with rim brakes. I rarely ride in the rain anyways. I'm not getting soaked for $5K plus for a new decently specc.d bike. Consumers need to put their foot down and say no to bicycles that cost as much as a decent used car. I don't have a team sponsor that will foot the bill for a $10K plus bike.

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

@@Unwavering137 I like carbon rims they don't bend . I like the way they stop. I feel you have way more control over the bike with brakes that don't stop that good. The harder you squeeze, the more the bike will stop. I have electronic shifting and it works really good but charging i forget . Mechanical shifting is good no need to spend more unless you just like to have the best I guess.

[@Fordworldrallyfan]

@@Unwavering137 A good deal of these current bikes co$t MORE THAN I paid for a NEW (performance hatchback) car not even six years ago!! 👎👎😡

[@sepg5084]

I'll build a new bike once the prices come down and parts availability come up.

[@laingy2009]

Hoping winspace upgrade their range before uk summer

[@universe-juice]

Good solid video!!!!

[@wendysuperfan1014]

thanks Chris

[@zachlowry3078]

I don't get how or why people think its always better to invest in lighter bikes, higher end groupsets, etc etc. As if the tool will make you faster. Perhaps all that money could be spent investing in their base fitness and eating well and then they wouldn't need to compensate for poor fitness with a $15,000 featherweight bike.

[@feins]

How bout Gusto Bike they are cheap, they had their sponsor pro con team and seems quite popular in Japan. I can’t find any review or wat ever for this brand.

[@2112bigd]

Should you buy a new bike? Yes - you should always buy a new bike. n+1 baby!

[@czeckson74]

so sad that DEVEL rim to EUROPE is nearly impossible :-(

[@kidkarbon4775]

Pure butter titanium feel 🤣😂

[@carboncrank2250]

Boycott and tank the market. Buy from the private sellers if you need anything. Show big Corp the consumers can still be in command.

[@MRAlexzocktify]

3000$ for 105?? I could go online and buy 105 di2 for 1250€ right now. I think that price is quite fair, although i would appreciate it being just 1000€ in the future.

[@steveduong02]

Yup. Just bought a 2023 Cervelo S5. It is a significant refresh and excellent performance aero bike. Check it out on my video.

[@VineV-Dutch]

And.... What about budget bikes for beginners?? Also big volumes in that category. You've dropped the ball

[@2Calam]

Can someone explain why you won't regret buying the Chinese bike but then you will comment?

[@davezor21]

Keeping my 2017 Emonda SL6 rim brake 6.77kg - can’t stand all the new disc brake heavy junk for 10k - good bikes have come and gone!

[@super8hell]

I think we should stop saying "invest" when we really mean "spend". You're not going to earn a dime selling your 1 yo Dogma.

[@JakeZimmerman7]

Where is this Ican doppelganger? Should be out soon no?

[@mfolquet]

Avoiding your biased bloated opinions, if you know what I mean.

[@rhysashpole]

Just cross out Scott with how bad their distributor is in Australia 👎. Nothing against the shops, just the distributor

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

100% agree

[@paul_hd1875]

Your mid-range assessment is completely off. IMO, a non racer... group rider... or soloist has a plethora of options that still provide a ton of value, given the current state of the industry. There are lots of SRAM Rival, Ultegra and 105 builds that fit the bill quite perfectly. Although I doubt your subscribers take your word as gospel, it should be mentioned your upload is a very narrow minded opinion.

[@aaron___6014]

Good thing I bought a few backup 10 and 11spd groupsets before this shit show of innovation that is electric hydro disc crap. It's not that it doesn't work well, but rather they are expensive, complicated and disposable.

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

Sound good!

[@lucarusso7915]

bravo

[@savagepro9060]

First

[@savagepro9060]

My 2023 build? -->> Velobuild vb-r-218. That thing is wicked, kinda reminds me of Pinarello F. I WANT ONE! Hambini gave it a thumbs up . . . with a gloved hand!😉

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

You don't even ride No bikes. Stop your bull crap. 🤣

[@greg4318]

Not a chance…….

[@chrisstrider]

Buy later in the year when the overstocked overpriced doesn’t sell…..

[@siriosstar4789]

NO!

[@recyclespinning9839]

just silly

[@orlandogodoy3233]

No.

[@tipkeri7923]

No

[@556WalkemdownTorrents]

[@josephdunbar2105]

NO! Let the bike brands suffer a little like they made us suffer!!!,!!