2023 DAIWA EXCELER Analysis and comparison with 2023 LEGALIS

[@TTangOutdoors]

I absolutely agree with your observation with the 23 Fuego. I tried spinning them at my local Cabela's and I was blown away by how smooth and light the turning was, like turning a Vanford... But the new Exceler looks way better than the Fuego. I'm very impressed with the upgrades on my 23 Exceler 2500. Daiwa nailed it this time.

[@oceanoadriatico]

Bro ahahahahaha

[@kennywarren8087]

I bought the 2500 2 weeks ago and it is absolutely outstanding! Out of the box, shifting the reel in my hand up/down/ around and the reel handle never stopped. It rotated on ot's own weight, flawlessly. I like it as much as my Ultegra's of which I own 3. I feel lucky to have it after watching this.👍

[@ifishcatfish]

that is indeed lucky

[@TackleAdvisors]

Not sure how heavy handled an sluggish the exceler you have is, but mine along with all that I've handled (probably about 50) didn't exhibit this...Same goes for the Fuego (fegl23) I have been fishing the exceler with .6 PE and slow rolling super hydrodynamic lipless baits. I like it over the new certate (jdm 2500 sdh). Grease on the shaft will absolutely gum up a reel and make it sluggish, also too much grease under the oscliation gear will add to it. Combine that with "stay put" lubrication in shielded bearings and voila....all of a sudden you have a heavy handled, sluggish feeling egg beater. The exceler and fuego's are phenomenal values. I like them over the miravel. Flooger and others are just results of whatever tech the chinese factory has available. At least daiwa / shimano are in house designs.

[@ifishcatfish]

First of all, great to see you again! We should do some kind of video together sometimes.. Now on the the reel - yes, the oscillation gear had some grease, that i removed, if that grease makes touches the frame when its turning its gona add resistance. However I cannot reconcile your report on no resistance on your Exceler with my own observations. Daiwa had 2 more excelers at iCast with exact same resistance. Also several people reported the resistance on their reels to me a few months ago, before i even did this review, so they have not really been biased by me. One gentleman just told me that even his 2500 has too much resistance, and another said the new Regal (same reel) has the same resistance. Maybe u bought a batch that was assembled where the Japanese legalis was assembled, but the reels out for sale right now are pretty tight, and not in a good way.

[@gabrielvasquez-chan7504]

My brotha, when are you going to start making more videos? I thought you said you were gonna make a comeback! I need info on that ‘24 Certate. Have had it in my cart for a while now. By the way I have a new 2000 Exceler and I also don’t feel any crazy stickiness/resistance.

[@quanloikid1]

We're all waiting for your videos again!

[@fadelover123]

@@gabrielvasquez-chan7504 Please do not buy any modern diawa reels... Every single high end daiwa MQ reel ive bought went to shit faster than any other reels ive owned. Most recent and last high end daiwa purchase was a Certate 19 lt and it felt worse than my Fuego LT after 2 months of fishing, hell it felt worse than the low end penns, I sent it in for service and paid $60 for a new gear set just to have the same issue a few months later. Same thing with a Saltiga BJ 4000 after a single day of wide open albies. I dont care what they did to the gears on the new model certate, im CONVINCED these new high end daiwas are made to fail and get sent in for service. I finally managed to sell off my certate and im absolutely positive ill never purchase another modern daiwa reel again. Ive switched exclusively to shimano and will not be looking back, my twinpower FDs have been absolutely abused for the past 2 years and still feel nearly new, and these new FE twinpowers feel even nicer.

[@owk6405]

wow tackle advisors is here...When will you start making video

[@dexterrobinson4065]

I’m a Shimano guy, but I watch these videos because the information is presented expertly, which makes it interesting 🫡 Keep it up sir!

[@ifishcatfish]

If this is what Daiwa plans on selling in the USA, i will start recommending the new Sahara over the USA models of Legalis. Sahara is heavier, but the rotor spins like NOTHING

[@sammyvh11]

@@ifishcatfish I have been using Saharas last 10 years I'm happy with them. Great review sir!

[@ReelFilmVideos]

I've had this issue on a Shimano Soare BB and on the 23 Vanquish. There is a very thin shim between the main gear and main bearing. This shim adjusts the fit between the main gear and the pinion gear. I used a fine diamond sharpening stone to remove 1 to 2 thousandths from the shim and the reel was perfect. No free play and no resistance. The fit is so precise that overtightening the screws in the reel body can add resistance.

[@ifishcatfish]

they started using wave shims there and behind the oscillation worm. Perfect fit without need for perfect shimming. Wave shims are great

[@Sambuddd]

Absolutely beautiful reel imo, have mine paired with a 7ft TFO Trout-Panfish rod that I found at a local shop marked down to $35 and love that combo for float fishing crappie and have also had some great fun twitching little wacky worms for smallmouth with it too. How weird that your example has so much resistance as mine feels the same if not better than my 2023 Legalis, handle spins super freely just from tilting the reel and stuff like that. It *is* just a guess but what other comments are saying about bad lubing seems accurate to me on instinct.

[@ifishcatfish]

maybe

[@highthai7]

The 2020 was beautiful as well

[@kutaboveperfection]

I hand picked all my Daiwa spinning reels at my local tackle shops and don’t have any problems with ease of reeling or fluidity. Yes! Once the reel breaks in the handle can loosen up some on the Daiwas, but that doesn’t bother me so far. I have both the older Exceller 3000 and the 2023 Exceller 3000, both feel smooth like butter. I Think the US reels have a quality control issue that the JDM’s doesn’t. So for me I only buy what feels the best in my hands and thus far I haven’t been disappointed 🙌🤙

[@davidrauschenbach6871]

Very interesting, always like your breakdown’s. Thanks Mr Trenton for sending in your reel. Perhaps after hundreds of catches it will feel different. Who knows it may feel fine now to you. Have a great weekend!

[@ivanvedris9636]

great video i was looking forward to! I recently bought a new fish rod (major craft crostage 732s, 0.6-10g) at a discount. I needed a new reel, so I bought a legalis 2000d 2023. The color scheme looks great. out of the box, I also noticed that it has a slight resistance. I also have legalis 2000 from 2020 and I can say that the older version is much smoother than the new 2023 version. it will probably work out a bit during fishing. in my opinion, the only difference between legalis vs exceler (in europe) is the color of the reel and the fact that exceler has a screwin handle. eh yes, the new legalis has a more powerful sound clicker : D. I will take a risk and put up Duel the one (PF (Polyethylene Fusion) LINE Patent P., and then I have the ultimate horse mackerl machine! thanks for the video, cheers!

[@5wisher5weet]

Riveted knob is an immediate “no thanks” for me

[@johnthefisherman]

thanks for the overview , great content as usual

[@fishingtimeletsgo598]

Thanks for the comparison - it is weird that the reels are identical and one has more resistance - I have not seen the new Fuego’s yet might have to check them out.👍

[@ifishcatfish]

definitely, especially if u want to use it in salt occasionally

[@paksusulung903]

I have 2 sets of the latest Daiwa Fuego LT, 2000D and 2500D, they are light and smooth. I've used it on saltwater and it's still good. it is cheaper than the exceller model sold in my country. Worth it to buy because its has Magsealed bearing.

[@ifishcatfish]

which country r u from?

[@paksusulung903]

@@ifishcatfish Malaysia 😁

[@CrcrcrcrCrcrcrcr]

Interesting. My exceller feels incredible the handle spins just by rotating the reel it's super smooth

[@ifishcatfish]

where did u buy it?

[@bosconian91]

My C2000S Vanford, which was purchased in Osaka, had terrible resistance. It turns out that the screw that holds the rotor to the frame was too tight. I loosened it a little and now it's so much better! I purchased 3 reels and only one was this way. So, it could be just an issue with the assembly.

[@ifishcatfish]

i have seen the same thing with a different reel. By the way in my installation instructions videos, if u watch them, i tell people not to overtighten that nut

[@mdgeist472]

You mean the nut that holds the rotor to the pinion gear? Yeah that would be the primary adjustments.

[@slyarsenal]

In Australia, we have both the Exceler and Legalis, but the Legalis comes with a through-pin handle. It seems the Japanese model that you have comes with a wind-on handle

[@ifishcatfish]

i dont think any legalis made in the last two years somes with through-handle. You are probably talking about old models. What color is the Handle?

[@MikHej-z9m]

Hi! I have the same “issue” with my Legalist 2023 from Europe (Spain i think. I’m from Sweden and the Daiwa Sweden don’t import the 2023 model) My handle knob i rivet to. But no issue with tightness/resisten. I will modify my anyway, hate my T-handle on the 2500!

[@ifishcatfish]

good info - thank you

[@jimpeterson3806]

This is the same resistance I experienced with the new Regal. Ended up purchasing 2 more of the older model Regal's before they disappeared

[@ifishcatfish]

yes! And the older generation has some great discounts right now

[@jimpeterson3806]

@@ifishcatfish my last reel purchase for awhile will be a new Ultrgra. Mine went in the dirt twice after tripping on the trail and spent 30 seconds on the lake bed after flipping my kayak. It still functions but probably has the same resistance as a new Exceler..

[@ifishcatfish]

@@jimpeterson3806 I will take that kastking you have over this exceler that was sent to me every time

[@jimpeterson3806]

@@ifishcatfish love that on my 7' Presso as a float setup! 👍👍

[@Sticky_White_Stuff]

The resistance is just high viscocity grease they pack in all bearings. It takes some time to break in, and even when it does, it will never feel as free as a reel with low viscocity grease or oil on the bearings. Shimano does the same thing with their baitcasters, and its pretty annoying to get an aldebaran, and it feel like you're turning the handle that weights 5 pounds.

[@ifishcatfish]

is this opinion or u have some proof? That would match my own speculations too, but i would love to get some proof, not just speculations

[@TackleAdvisors]

Never change your avatard......ever!!!!

[@Sticky_White_Stuff]

@@ifishcatfish Lots of people complain on the baitcaster side of shimano reels. I ordered a brand new aldebaran mgl 30 like 2 weeks ago. Received it, and it was the reel that you had to put the most force into to turn the handle. It was so annoying i had to see what's up, so i strip it completely, and every single bearing was filled with ultra thick grease, something i've never seen from daiwa (i mostly buy daiwas or old shimanos which didn't have this annoyance). Its grease 100%. I assume they do this for two reasons. Firstly, it dampens the sound a bearing will make, and secondly, think grease will last longer. Since they don't expect you to ever service a reel, it makes sense, but if you service your reels yearly, its so stupid.

[@Sticky_White_Stuff]

@@TackleAdvisors 😆😆where the hell are the vids, bruh. unless you work for the cia, there's no way you can't find time to cover the new juicy and overpriced as hell 24 steez.

[@Sticky_White_Stuff]

@@ifishcatfish Not sure what happened with my last comment, it disappeared. But yes, its from experience. I bought an Aldebaran mgl 30 about 2 weeks ago, and uppon arrival, the handle had so much resistance i myself thought there was some kind of an issue since i am used to daiwas and older shimanos that never sufference from this. After disassembling it completely, and testing all the bearings, its the damn grease, its much thicker than normal, and there's more of it than before. I assume they do this for two reasons. Firstly, it dampens the sound of every bearing, making the reel more silent. Secondly, because shimano doesn't expect their customers to service their reels, they put a thicker grease because it'll stay on friction parts for longer than a low viscocity grease, keeping the reel "smoother" and more silent for longer.

[@Денис-р5о3з]

There may be extra adjusting washers on the main gear. My friend had this on the previous generation of Exceler. The solution is to remove the excess washer; you need to take the thinnest one so that there is no large play in the handle.

[@ifishcatfish]

theoretically this is possible, but that assumes such GLARING INCOMPETENCE on the side of Daiwa, that the probability of this being true is pretty much zero. All reels are like that, and the new Regal is like that too. I just can't believe Daiwa engineers don't know how to shim

[@Денис-р5о3з]

@@ifishcatfish Since the housing is not precision-made, manual adjustment of the main gear backlash is necessary. It is understood that the assembler must install the required number of shims until the backlash is eliminated, but not clamp the main gear to the point of heavy rotation. But apparently Daiwa does not spend money on assembly, limiting itself to installing the same number of washers in each reel. Just yesterday I received a 21 Twin Power XD that had heavy knob rotation and play in the main gear. I replaced the washer in the knob with a thinner one, rotation became easy. A washer will have to be added to eliminate play in the main gear. The reels are not manufactured perfectly and are not assembled perfectly. You just need to come to terms with it.

[@ifishcatfish]

The problem is that in my case i put it back with the same shims and the reel freed up significantly. So the theory you are describing doesn't fit. Also, adding shims to the main gear can only reduce axial free play, but not radial. A reel of the caliber of Twinpower will never have axial free play, i dont care who assembled it. They do have radial free play, but there is nothing you can do about that with shims.

[@sausagefingers385]

i did this with my 1000 S Legalis (5.2:1 Ratio) Brand new condition: 3 washer (2 thin washer and 1 thick washer) i feel the drivegear touching the pinion when i reel them After removing 2 thin washer: so smooth...there's no feeling of the gear touching, just a little bit actually, like it's 90% gone

[@wasdwasd-u1m]

hey I found you when you were rating the best rods and reels for ultralight fishing. I wondering if you could do the same for lures. And maybe explain when and where to use the different Lure types. Been loving your videos

[@danspanos]

I have a 2500 Exceller that has the same resistance issue. I was also shocked when I tried to change the knob to a smaller size, and realized I couldn't. I am going to take it apart, and either try to clean the bearings, or replace them. I wonder if you order an Exceller handle from Japan (Plat may carry them), if it would come with the removable knob? I'm guessing so, but I will email them to find out. On a side note, the Legalis 2000 I ordered from Japan also has resistance. Not as much as the Exceller, but it's no where near as smooth as my size 1000 Miravel (Probably the smoothest spinning reel I own). Maybe they overgreased it as well?

[@ifishcatfish]

that is bad news about the 2500 size Exceler, but out of Japan i have received nothing but good feedback. Which exact model did u order? Give me the letters

[@danspanos]

@@ifishcatfish Exceller LT2500D-XH, and Legalis LT2000S-P

[@ifishcatfish]

@@danspanos i have that same model man... it feels like empty.. it is phenomenal. This is all very confusing

[@danspanos]

@@ifishcatfish I know you have the same model. It's the one you told me to get. I'm thinking they might have some QC issues going on in their reels under $100. It's the only explaination I can think of. I guess I need to open them up to see if they are severely overgreased.

[@ifishcatfish]

Maybe send it to me... im curious now. I have received nothing but amazing feedback for this reel.

[@ronfrederick9983]

I bought my Legalis after seeing your reviews. Purchased it on Amazon however it was shipped from Japan and took about a month to get Because of that I couldn't read instructions which are pages of. Not sure but seems like it had parts diagram but everything was in Japanese.

[@ifishcatfish]

how was the reel? Is the knob removable?

[@Sticky_White_Stuff]

And as an idea for a vid, you should clean all the bearings on the reel with a lot of resistance, put some oil instead of the original grease, and then try the reel. You will see how insanely more free they'll feel, and you could tell others what to do cuz as i've said in my previous message, lots of complaints in the baitcaster side, but for some reason nobody that i've seen was able to find the problem. Probably because most don't open their reels, and just use what they buy.

[@ifishcatfish]

maybe i will get one daiwa and replace every single bearing with ceramic, just for kicks : )

[@Sticky_White_Stuff]

@@ifishcatfish Already done this with baitcasters, they become way too noisy.

[@ifishcatfish]

depends on the location. If it is a high speed location, like inside the rotor nut of the Vanford, you can't put ceramic because it spins too fast and u will hear the noise. But u can put them on the main gear and on the locomotive gear and that won't make any noise. Same way if u put ceramic bearings in a knob u will never hear noise, just because u have to spin fast to hear the noise.

[@Sticky_White_Stuff]

@@ifishcatfish I ran dry cermic hybrids, not even full ceramic, and it was significantly noisier than standard bearings. I have no idea how it would be on a spinning reel, but after having replaced all 7 internal metal bearings to ceramic hybrids, your could absolutely hear it more than standard, and even more so when the reel is under load. But at the same time, turning the handle was the free'st i have ever felt on a reel.

[@ifishcatfish]

Maybe some of them spin pretty fast.. On a spinning reel it should be fine. Actually if u zoom in this video, u will see that i have a ceramic bearing under the locomotive gear on my reel : )

[@kenjif123]

Do you have any new twitching baits you like?

[@ifishcatfish]

black larvaZ.. thats pretty much it right now, since the trout magnets got shrank.. : ) I saw some chinese worms were pretty good but dont know the name.

[@helterskelter156]

The new Fuego went away with the removable knob. Also, they went to a two piece, non-“air” bail. I personally don’t like air bails, but the riveted knob pisses me off. Having said that, I kick the snot of my new Fuego and it performs great! Very smooth to spin, nice action on the bail flip, and great sounding spool clicker. However, the drag is quite choppy. I wish it was a bit easier to dial in the drag resistance, instead of going either too light to “stop dead in its tracks” .

[@ifishcatfish]

what size reel are u talking about?

[@helterskelter156]

@@ifishcatfish 2500 The old 2500 Fuego that I had, actually came with an air bail and a removable knob.

[@troutaholic8834]

Victor could you please look into testing Scheels brand fishing reels. They are made by Daiwa and they seem to use different features from multiple reels in designing their reels for Scheels. The pricing is better than reels with “ Daiwa” stamped on them. The quality seems to be there. I enjoy your website and learn from your content.

[@ifishcatfish]

they are just old models of daiwa, just like bass pro shops sells old models of daiwa under theirr name. THere is no difference i features, only color. Price is not even better, if u compare them with the old models of daiwa, which are discounted right now

[@LaviniaTortuga]

Makes sense. I tried to call Pure Fishing to find out if they are ever going to again produce the 6 ft 6 “ Micro Series Rods. Like most American corporations these days, they kept me on hold for five minutes, listening to terrible musical. All designed to tire the consumer out and make them go away. With me , I made it to leave the message in the voice box phase and they will call me back. Of course, they never did.

[@ulanglegang]

I agree with your assessment. I dont understand how they managed to make the new generation U.S. Legalis LT family have more resistance than even the cheaper Regal LT but they did. And man is it disappointing because the carbon silver and chrome with black accent looks amazing. I would actually say, from what I have seen, I would prefer the new Sedona FJ, it has a similar color scheme (but with gold accent for some insane reason) but feels much more like the Sahara. At any rate, why is Diawa wanting us to pay more money for the new Air Bail design when it doesnt even improve, and maybe worsens startup inertia?

[@gregor13atho25]

Hallo, ist exceler ersatzspule kompadible mit legalis haus? Wegen silber farbe? Danke deinen hilfe. Welchen silber handle kompatibel mit legalis 23 lt 1000

[@ifishcatfish]

All parts in Exceller 23 and Legalis 23 are THE SAME. They are not 'compatible', they are THE SAME. U can take any part of one reel and put in the other.

[@gregor13atho25]

@@ifishcatfish danke.🙏 Silver handle zum legalis 23 lt 1000?

[@anthonymcfarland3563]

I have the 1000 size. Mine is smooth and I don't find the start up or resistance being heavy. I do have a Shimano Sahara which I fine to be slightly lighter.

[@ifishcatfish]

Hmm.. 1000 is just a different spool.. I don't know, maybe u got lucky..

[@leighj8885]

I bought a Legalis LT1000 from amazon about 6 months ago. So you are saying that my reel is not legit because I didn't order it straight from Japan? The box does not say where it is made.

[@ifishcatfish]

what color is it? If u bought it from US amazon you probably got the older model. New model is not even sold here

[@hrcivic]

Please show us step by step how to remove the automatic wire bail spring. I've done it to my older reels but this one seems different and more complex. Also do you know if the line roller is the same shape and dimensions as the older model? Thanks

[@ifishcatfish]

No, it is different. I have both the old and the new at my tackle shop

[@hrcivic]

@@ifishcatfish its different?? A compare of both would be helpful. I have a spare sic line roller from my previous exceller and i hoped i could fit it

[@ifishcatfish]

i already have installation videos for both reels, just search for them

[@shughart7]

There's an AFTA2023 video on KZbin where the daiwa Rep explains the legalis has a hexagonal shaft which attached the handle to the main gear, vs a screw on handle for the exceler.

[@ifishcatfish]

is Legalis even sold in USA? I know its sold in Europe, and , yes, with the old hex handle..

[@shughart7]

@@ifishcatfish it was posted by DaiwaAustralia a year ago on KZbin for reference

[@danielwutfisho]

​@@shughart7Yeah the JDM has the screw in and australia has the 'screwed over' reel 😂

[@natebonebusta]

How was the Exceler drag sound compared to the Japanese Legalis drag sound? My Japanese Legalis reels have excellent drag sound.

[@ifishcatfish]

@@natebonebusta same. Samenline roller bushings. Everything same but resistance and handle

[@miaz8885]

Hello sir Just asking, do you think a shallow spool is really necessary to cast further? Is using backing line bad? Asking this because I can't find any shallow spool for Daiwa reel except for the gekkabijin X lt (the cheapest gekka)

[@ifishcatfish]

shallow spools do not cast farther, not sure who told u that but its not true. The only benefit is there is less line to put on the reel to fill it up

[@miaz8885]

@@ifishcatfish thanks sir Your advices are better than any other fisherman I've ever met! legit, trusted and reliable

[@robert3278]

Witch reel is better this exceller or shimano stradic fl ?

[@ifishcatfish]

different purpose reels, they are not alternatives. This is freshwater ultralight reel. Stradic is heavy duty saltwater reel

[@desislavgospodinov5309]

I bought a Daiwa 23 Legalis (not the jdm version) but a 2000s-xh. It's not even with a screw on handle. So basically if they are the same parts, comparing the non jdm legalis with exceller, the excellor should still be the better product.

[@ifishcatfish]

where did u buy this reel?

[@desislavgospodinov5309]

@@ifishcatfish Europe more specific Bulgaria. Came up with schematics and everything at first i thought i was getting scammed xD.

[@ifishcatfish]

@@desislavgospodinov5309 that is good information. Very disapointing though... But i have to recommend the same thing for Europe that i recommend for USA than - buy the Fuego, or buy the Legalis from Japan.

[@desislavgospodinov5309]

@@ifishcatfish jdm is like +1 tier of quality. Bought a jdm okuma itx-cb 2500 i was very pleasently surprised, compared to a dissapointing okuma ceymar hd 1000 i had bought a year ago.

[@pedrinho32286]

Hello Sr, from where did you order the japonese Legalis ? I would prefer the Fuego for saltwater ( have have another 2 from 2020), but the new ones in Europe are all extra fast. I want a normal one 5.2:1 or less. This is like a extra fast disease . People nowadays only buy extra everything. Probably they believe that they get more for the same price. At least in Europe I can’t find a 5.2:1 Fuego in 2000 size.

[@ifishcatfish]

i agree extra fast is disease but don't give recommendations where to buy to avoid liability. People get reel with noise and they blame me

[@pedrinho32286]

@@ifishcatfish I understand. Thank you

[@Draznesht]

are you happy with the new LEgalis?

[@ifishcatfish]

yes. As a matter of fact i just got another offer to sell it yesterday, but i wont. I won't even sell my 2017 legalis

[@Draznesht]

@@ifishcatfish 2017 is the best design of the legalis i think

[@ifishcatfish]

@@Draznesht im not sure why u say that. The new Legalis is lighter, less intertia, and other than aesthetics its better in everything

[@isavkov]

How did you get Legalis with one piece handle? My Legalis 3000 has one of those folding handles that I really don't like.

[@ifishcatfish]

I just talked to another bulgarian, u can find his comment below somewhere... Seems like the reel sold in Bulgaria (and all of Europe) doesn't even have the screw-in handle. My recommendation is the same - if u want one of these reels, buy the Fuego, or order the same reel but from Japan. Daiwa keeps playing these shenanigans pissing everybody off, but i suspect there may be a backlash from it..

[@101dragonsthe]

Got mine on ebay for 80 bucks ship from Japan. Only took 3 days as they ship dhl. Just make sure you get the one with gold handle and year 23 model. I also got the ceramic bearing for knob and line roller bearing from ifish

[@saltylawaia8958]

My 3000 exceler feels just as good as my Stradic fm and ballistic mq.

[@ifishcatfish]

yeah, i don't think its a problem in the big models.. Stradic FM has pretty good resistance too though, not the best comparison

[@bert1234]

Strange finding Victor. Diawa USA needs to step up their quality control.

[@ifishcatfish]

I dont think this is QC. All reels are like that

[@hennievanzuuk227]

I have exceller 1000 lt, verry,verry smooth.

[@ifishcatfish]

they are always smooth, all of them. Thats not what this video was about.

[@Anti_ZionisNKRI]

5 second intro i already Laugh😂. Tq

[@yep.fishing]

Thankfully they are not charging much more for the exceller. I wonder how much variation there would be between exceller if you had say 5 of them. I know with Chinese reels it can be a crap shoot. Selling reels that are more or less the same with different names and prices just seems disingenuous to me.

[@ifishcatfish]

some people here say their exceller doesn't have resistance. I don't know but the ones i saw were bad. Either way that reel is a bad deal even if u don't get the resistance.

[@armandorjusino]

Coffee and a reel review, well Japan waiting shipping time and a Fuego it is then, thanks for the advise.

[@ifishcatfish]

yessir!

[@AmirEpal1]

SLP works is watching. hehehe

[@chemareasalbaticiei]

I will never buy again daiwa reels with rivited knob... i own a legalis from last year and i already have a free play in the knob and i cannot adjust that because is rivited...my next update it will be stradic fm 2000s....i have the C3000 fm and i love it.

[@ifishcatfish]

yes, when its new u don't think about it, but a year later it can bother u bad

[@FISHALLDAY-d9d]

Typical Diawa and Shimano, charging more money for the exact same reel. This is unacceptable.

[@ifishcatfish]

they do both make 5 models out of 1 reel.