2023 Hilux GR Sport VS 2023 Hilux Rogue // DETAILED COMPARISON + Which One Should You Buy?

[@seacaptain888]

Ive had 2 Hiluxes, currently own a 2 litre Raptor, going back to a Hilux the GR Looks awesome and with toyota quality win win.

[@NorthOz]

Can’t blame you, that sounds like a smart move

[@rubytuesday1345]

Totally agree. Bought my GR at the end of last year and love it. More power than anyone needs on a public highway. If you want to go into the desert, take a Ranger. If you want to get out of the desert, take a Toyota.

[@BU683AR]

Driving a raptor is much more comfortable than in a hilux, Camera quality on hilux came from stone age, its blurry af.

[@aucklandtoday9847]

The wider track of 15mm will come purely from the wheels. Track is measured from centerline of wheels so I'm guessing the center of each wheel sits 7.5mm further out

[@NorthOz]

Spot on. I think you are correct 👍

[@simmo6035]

The 2.8 has been putting out 550nm and 165kw in overseas markets for sometime. I wouldn't be worried about longevity in the GR. Toyota specifically designed the grill with a lot more air flow to aid with cooling.

[@NorthOz]

That’s good to know about the reputation overseas with the tune. I understand that they designed it that way for more airflow but it looks ugly in my opinion. A hood scoop or cone filter would do the same thing without the ugly front. In my opinion.

[@simranbanga5467]

How nice is the location where you are mate. Peaceful and quiet 🤐. I am happy with my Wide body 23 Rogue too as no point changing to GR when they bringing all new shape hilux in couple of years. Hopefully in the new shape hilux they make cab and bed bigger and wider so it’s not tight fit for passengers and bed can be useful

[@NorthOz]

Thanks mate! I live in cairns, it’s been raining a lot here so it’s beautiful this time of the year. The new hilux will be based on the new global chassis which is shared with the 300 series from my information. That may be worth while upgrading as they will have a lot of new tech (which not everyone will want). It will definitely kick Ford out of the race for the top spot but I think Ford may take the top selling vehicle for a couple of years. This won’t happen until 2025 apparently

[@richardwalsh5570]

GR sport is not worth the $$. You have heaps of power and yours is spot on. You are right about the tune. More reliability with our specs. More power equals heat which equals wear. I reckon the track will end up the same as yours for parts sharing. Your Rogue looks mint.

[@NorthOz]

Hi Richard. For sure. I completely agree with everything you said. What do you think of the styling of the GR? To me it looks like a base model hilux with fender flares thrown on it. I thought they could’ve made it a bit nicer with a roll bar and Rogue style tailgate

[@Notsure00700]

Heaps of power?..????😂😂😂😂😂 what compared to a Prius? 😂😂😂 under powered rubbish! Buy a real Ute from the states!

[@peterstankov73]

Mate be content with your Rogue. It’s a great looking Ute. It’s got what most would want in a new Ute and it’s going to take you most places that you’d want to go. Sure some extra power/torque and a bit more height is always useful but I think the telling factor is going to be how much more will you need to spend to get one.

[@NorthOz]

Absolutely. And for an extra $5-10k I don’t think it’s worth it at all. It actually looks like a cheaper model in the lineup from that rear shot I showed. What are your thoughts on the look of it? Maybe it’s just me haha

[@ጽጽ]

Damn that location looks amazing, 2023 is looking good with these consistent uploads

[@NorthOz]

Thanks legend! North Oz is gearing up for a big year on KZbin 👍 What do you think of the GR?

[@ጽጽ]

@@NorthOz yes sir 2023 is looking good for sure with these North Oz uploads, in terms of the new GR I was surprised they didn't put a new more powerful engine in there since the competition is getting ahead, here in SA we already had a GR making the same exact numbers 165kw and 550nm from last year, but I have to say it looks good and aggressive compared to the one we have here, but for you guys in Australia the GR is just a facelifted rogue with a tune so its literally the same car, but me personally I don't care about the power the raptor makes, the hilux can literally handle everything with its current power, bro keep up the cinematic views in the videos it makes the video 10x enjoyable to watch 💪👌

[@peterward9755]

The gr sport in Thailand has ventilated disc's front and back uprated suspension and the exterior is different

[@NorthOz]

Interesting. I know the gr sport has been around in the European and Asian markets for a number of years. It will be interesting to see if they get this same model overseas

[@mwat22]

what exactly did they change to widen the rogue's track and is it something the aftermarket sector can do for those of us in regions which may not get these rogue and rugged X hiluxes we mostly get the regular SR5 and probably that GR that i told you about

[@NorthOz]

There is a bit that goes into it. Bigger diff (I believe), longer control arms, mounting points for rear shocks. This won’t be offered as a kit however, there are some companies that offer a wide body kit and suspension overhaul for the sr5

[@mwat22]

@@NorthOz i believe there are some companies in SA that can do this so all one has to do is drive 3800kms to Jo-burg. that bigger diff might be an issue and i think that's to cater to final gearing and torque multiplication to drive bigger wheels probably

[@jamespavier1624]

Your Rogue looks better, wheels and grill look better and you can get it tuned if needed. Best of all is you have it now.

[@NorthOz]

Spot on! I think the rogue is a more luxurious and sensible trim. The gr sport looks a bit childish and like they took the SR and slapped some paint here and there. No hate to the GR but compared to the rogue, the value isn’t there… and like you said, I have it now 👍

[@commonsense-grs]

NO, the GR is just a slightly tarted up version of yours, could add these extras for little cost. The GR should have had a high powered V6 petrol or the 3.3L turbo diesel from the LC, properly slightly detuned version anyway.

[@NorthOz]

Absolutely agree. I won’t be upgrading to the gr sport. I think the rogue looks a lot nicer 👍

[@mattyoz0]

@@NorthOz lol. You've got to be joking. You would swap it in a heart beat if it didn't cost you any more money.

[@michaelkiely3632]

Hey mate. Thanks for your videos. Curious to know if you have looked into aftermarket suspension for the rogue? I have the same car and cannot find anywhere that have released aftermarket suspension for it. ARB told me OME is still in the hands of designers and no word on how long it may be. Would just like to know what you may have heard. Cheers

[@NorthOz]

I haven’t heard anything yet. I have spoken to a few owners who are using parts from past hiluxes like springs for lifting the front. I am not sure about official kits just yet but I will be looking into it in the next 3-6 months so I’ll share what I find out 👍

[@michaelkiely3632]

Thank you mate. Yeah definitely keen to find out so a video on that would be great when you eventually find one! In the meantime I’ll keep hunting. Cheers

[@themotorguy]

Rogue suits me better over the GR. I like the look of the rogue better, plus the tray cover with carpet is nicet

[@NorthOz]

I agree. Definitely a nice trim and the Rogue will look nicer on the road in my opinion

[@TheEkubebe]

Bro, im trying to buy one, what do you recommend, the rouge or the adventure?

[@NorthOz]

Hi mate. The rogue is the top of the range here and we don’t have the adventure. Is that similar to our rugged x?

[@TheEkubebe]

@NorthOz I guess there are different models for different regions, here in Nigeria we get the gr sport, and adventure

[@BuffaloBuffalo-uc6zp]

What country is specified on the VIN number to indicate where it was built ?

[@ps9652]

Love this video have you driven the GR Sport yet?

[@codyshann]

It sucks to know that what you bought which was supposed to be TOTL of Hilux was not anymore the TOTL in 2 weeks. The added HP and Torque were the selling point and the all-new grill and bumper and all-terrain tires were an added bonus that makes Rogue, SR5, and SR ....... OLD! I'm stoke with the Rogue and I'm planning to buy one if it arrives here at our place but after seeing your vid, and knowing there's a GR Sport lurking around the corner, I don't care if it takes months but I'm gonna wait for it. BTW, your Rogue still rocks man. It's way cooler than SR5. Cheers!

[@NorthOz]

Thanks man! Luckily I knew what the gr was going to be like and I would still buy the Rogue over the gr given we can get it 6 months sooner than the gr. There’s always going to be something newer and shinier but I’m actually stoked with my truck and I think it’s the trim to buy 👍 Good luck with the purchase and I hope these videos help you make a choice 😊

[@codyshann]

@@NorthOz Keep posting videos man. It really helps. Btw, Rogue and GR-Sport got a wider stance than a standard hilux which I really like.

[@raysalter6456]

I like your rogue with the tonneau cover and the protective carpet😊😊 does your tonneau lock??? Thanks

[@NorthOz]

Thanks mate. Yes it does with central locking

[@kimzor1989]

Do you think if Toyota are going to release a Rugged X with Rogues wider track and would you still choose the rogue over rugged x

[@NorthOz]

They won’t be releasing another rugged x at this point in time. The rogue and gr sport is all they have announced and given it’s the end of the n80 model lifespan, they won’t introduce a new trim until the new hilux arrives in 2025

[@alexbarquin9]

Comfort and ride dynamics compared to the Prado? All people are raving about Prado's comfort level. I personally love a car with stiffer suspension and good cornering dynamics (less body roll). Nice choice on the colour. That's what I would have picked if i were to order one today.

[@NorthOz]

Initial thoughts are the Prado is a softer ride but that has pros and cons. The body roll in the Prado was very high even dangerous and this hilux corners on rails. Way better on winding roads but there is more cabin intrusion in the rogue. Road noise is quieter in the rogue

[@billmurray3505]

Hi iam from the uk don't seem to be able to get the rogue over here we get the invincible x do you know if there's any difference in them. billm. Or should I get the gr sports.

[@NorthOz]

Hi mate! Interesting. I’ll have to look into that. I’d say it would be very similar but the invincible x might not have the new suspension of this truck. Does the gr sport you get look similar to this? Thanks for watching and subscribing 👍

[@mikha007]

@@NorthOz and the hilux mako from nz.

[@brenndoloco]

Toyota need to update that 2.8L turbo diesel engine, they've been milking that engines capacity for quite some time now. But I think they will soon find that they are falling behind in terms of technology and power, still a great reliable truck nonetheless, well just have to be patient to see what they come out with in the next few year.

[@NorthOz]

Good point. I like the engine but using their 3.0L v6 platform would be a logical move for the next hilux and Prado

[@brenndoloco]

@@NorthOz 100% agreed. Excited to see what's to come next. But a V6 diesel 3.0L in the next platform would make the crowd go wild. The Hilux deserves more power, at least in the top of the range models. Toyota is known for carry over engines in models. They've also done that in the Lexus vehicles aswell. 🤷

[@nethaneelrondal9448]

How about the leafsprings

[@NorthOz]

Still the same as the rogue

[@TheRdwyer]

What about a locking differential.

[@NorthOz]

I believe they are the same on the gr and the rogue. Standard factory rear locker 👍

[@TinyGhost42]

Is this the australian Legolas?

[@NorthOz]

Haha I dunno about that one 🤣

[@babeyoulove1883]

In my understanding - Toyota is in the process of developing a new generation of Hilux. When they launch the generation the GR version should get proper stand-alone features ( Such as engine, suspension &, etc). I think Toyota is just testing the waters to see what people think of the path they are in. I think we will see the new-gen in a year or two. I think your purchase is perfect. Love the color. You can always wait for the next new thing - Meaning you could not buy anything in life.

[@NorthOz]

100% agree. There is always something new around the corner and I’m stoked with mine. Yes, a few years from now the new hilux will be here so I think Toyota will be quiet for a while until that arrives 👍

[@rd6416]

I agree completely. If you second guess your every purchase you will spend a lifetime with nothing. Enjoy your new awesome ute! I know I will be. 😊

[@DEKarting]

The GR will be a top seller I think, look at the new Raptor. I think the next gen Lux GR will be a bit more beastie like what ford have done. Agree with an earlier comment Cairns is looking gorgeous!

[@aucklandtoday9847]

What if the "new" hilux is a disappointment. I've ordered a 23 Cruiser. (Not called Rogues here in NZ) in the back of my mind I have that line out of Mad Max in my head " last of the V8 Interceptors"

[@babeyoulove1883]

@@aucklandtoday9847 That is a true statement... I am sure you will enjoy your new ride mate...

[@gstar1309]

Exactly what I needed to know as I'm about to buy..

[@NorthOz]

Excellent! I’m glad it helped. This is the information I would’ve had wanted if I was making up my mind too 👍

[@gstar1309]

Definitely was helpful.. I love the red in the rogue, I'll see how the GR looks and is priced when it arrives in a couple months then get one or the other .. either way I'll be happy as they're both great Utes.. Thanks again for your video, Im now a subscriber.. 👍

[@NorthOz]

@@gstar1309 Thanks for subscribing and good luck with your purchase

[@sundayswithsummer]

Bought the 2022 Rugged X and Im happy with it. I like the way you compare the 2 vehicles. I should have waited for that 2 vehicles but it would probably take me another year to get it. Anyway, Im looking forward for your future videos. Already subscribed to your channel. 😊

[@NorthOz]

Thanks for the sub legend! Listen, I think the rugged x was a better proposition than the gr sport. You made the right choice for sure 👍

[@sundayswithsummer]

@@NorthOz your very welcome. Please continue to make more of these videos. If you can also subscribe to our channel. That would be fantastic. Cheers!

[@NorthOz]

@@sundayswithsummer absolutely! I’ll check out your channel too 👍

[@sundayswithsummer]

@@NorthOz Thank you so much. More power to your channel.

[@michaels4948]

Mate love your new rig the way it is and not sure increased power and torque figures make any difference when you just want to get our out there in nature and see our beautiful country. I would prefer to spend the extra dollars on fuel and camping adventures. Love your channel by the way!

[@NorthOz]

Absolutely Michael and thank you so much for the nice comment. It’s a cool truck and I’m looking forward to taking it on many trips. I’m very happy with my Rogue and I made the right choice for me. Thanks again and I can’t wait to share more vids with you 👍

[@user-by6qb3tb5k]

Thank you for the video; all very good points and agree with your comments.

[@NorthOz]

Thanks mate 👍

[@ChingChungAnn]

if GR version doen't put any new stuff on its Infotainment system like Ranger, then I think it is best to stay with rogue.

[@NorthOz]

To my knowledge, it’s the same on the inside. I agree with you 👍

[@bollemaneats1303]

I miss the Prado content :( cuz I am now saving to purchase one ...still driving my Prado 2002 TX

[@NorthOz]

More Prado content coming soon, don’t worry 😉

[@bollemaneats1303]

@@NorthOz Nice!!! Also Greetings from Suriname… small country northern of SouthAmerica

[@sassall4284]

Both of these new trucks are pretty sweet tbh

[@NorthOz]

Couldn’t agree more 👍

[@rayk6253]

Extra track width may be may be wheel offset both are great looking utes love your colour choice to

[@NorthOz]

Spot on ray. I think you are onto something there 👍 The red is really nice and both utes are a step in the right direction for Toyota for sure

[@craigelliott2524]

GR sport…. Just for the torque and power…. Rear track could be additional wheel offset I reckon. Same diff etc.

[@NorthOz]

If you like the look go for it. For me, I like the look of the rogue better but the gr sport will have an appeal to a market for sure. True on the wheel offset that may be how they got that extra track

[@HLsab]

Happy to be corrected but think the 2 tone roof on the GR sport is optional extra , roughly $1000 extra. Rogue for me . 👍

[@NorthOz]

Yeah not sure. I’m a bit removed from that now but my pick would be the rogue

[@timfreeman2603]

I think the SR5 wheel track front and back isn’t same and yours is likely the same increase as GR. It’s not 100mm out like the 79 but maybe 10-15mm.

[@NorthOz]

Hi Tim. I can confirm the sr5 has a smaller wheel track than the rogue but the gr has a wider track than the rogue. As one commenter said, it could be in the wheels with a more negative offset rim. I don’t think they would re-engineer a whole axle and diff assembly etc just for the gr

[@timfreeman2603]

@@NorthOz SR5 isn’t equal front to back. Rogue & GR are equal front to back and equal with each other.

[@stackstradingllc]

Been watching your videos, I think I will be getting the gr sport here in jamaica.

[@NorthOz]

That sounds great! Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine

[@danielscott8170]

Great video bro, I’ve got 23 rogue blacked out. Just wondering, would I be able to get a Toyota snorkel installed after purchase? Also when you get dual battery system and roof rack could you make more videos Also are you gunna put a bullbar on 😁

[@NorthOz]

Hi Daniel! Thanks for the comment. Absolutely on the snorkel. Ask your dealer and they should do it for you no worries. Just do it next time you take it in for the 1-3 month checkup or the next service. I have more build videos coming up but they only move as fast as my cash flows haha. The dual battery goes in soon and I’m contemplating a bed rack system until I get a canopy. I’m not a fan of bullbars (I made a video about that) so I won’t put one on this build. Wheels and tires will be next I think and then a few little things after that. I have a build plan video coming out soon so hopefully you get some ideas from that 👍

[@danielscott8170]

Sweet keen as mate, what you’re doing in great and your video quality and content are spot on 👌

[@Kruse1]

Looks like pretty much the same thing but with a tune …except you have it now.

[@NorthOz]

Exactly my thoughts. Except I think the gr sport looks cheaper without the roll bars and carpeted tub. The black roof also is a cheap look in my opinion

[@kurttrevail4130]

Are you trying to convince us or yourself that YOU SHOULD’VE WAITED FOR THE GR BRAAA 😜 Nah jokes mate they’re both awesome vehicles with their pros n cons great vid mate respect 🙏👍🏽

[@NorthOz]

Haha thanks mate! Luckily I don’t like the look of the gr so I dodged one there 😅

[@Jimmy_Saf]

Your rogue is mint mate

[@NorthOz]

Thanks legend 👍

[@genghiskhan344]

The GR side rails are ugly but are designed to take the whole weight of the vehicle

[@NorthOz]

Absolutely correct. My point is that you can buy Australian made rails that have checker plate and trunk kick outs for a lot cheaper than the $5-10k premium the GR sport is going for. Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad they added it but with limited foot hold space and an ugly design, they could’ve done better

[@eliaselia1977]

The rogue electric tray is 4k worth alone why would I buy the GR it's naked compared to the Rogue.. Yes some definition items stand out but not worth the extra dollar's .

[@NorthOz]

My thoughts exactly. In my view, it’s a lesser product for more money

[@devo7428]

Don't worry. Rogue or rugged x it doesn't matter. Both are behind the latest offering from Ford. Hopefully the new hilux in a year or so will catch up. These models are just band aids for now.

[@NorthOz]

Absolutely right but definitely a step in the right direction. Not everyone wants a Ford (including me as the video on Thursday will explain) so these offerings from Toyota do have an appeal to certain people

[@devo7428]

@@NorthOz yeah true. If you want reliability and good resale stick with Toyota.......

[@nesertema4583]

I think you forgot to mention the top-secret new monotube dampers (KYB?) the GR Sport will get. imho they will by far not be at the level of the raptor fox suspension. but aaanyhow, maybe you could convince your dealer for a swap mid 2023 ;-)

[@NorthOz]

The top secret suspension must be so secret that they didn’t include it in the spec sheet haha. You are right, the suspension won’t be as good as the raptor but it will no doubt last longer and be more reliable 👍

[@gordondkrbavac6861]

‼️ Disc brakes on the back also on the GR Sport. ‼️

[@NorthOz]

Good to know thanks mate 👍

[@user-dm8qf3ph5f]

The fender flare design needs to be redone

[@NorthOz]

What about it don’t you like? I quite like the ones on my rogue. It does stick out a lot but it makes very aggressive looking

[@NasTimeAdventures]

Don't tease yourself like this. You got an awesome rig. You can have better if you want it and for less.

[@NorthOz]

Spot on! I’m stoked with my Ute and I made the right choice just like you said, for cheaper too

[@fadikhater8495]

It’s the roller shutter for the Toyota hilux rougue it’s waterproof

[@NorthOz]

Very true and can hold a load too for extra storage

[@mervdavis8985]

Mark you said it yourself Toyota is just trying to catch up to the ford raptor stay with what your got till Toyota bring out a total new hilux like ford did other wise its Toyota dressing up old hilux

[@NorthOz]

Couldn’t agree more. If anything it looks cheap and it could never match the raptor for features and fun. The rogue is cheaper than the raptor by $15k so if people want a fun reliable truck, go with that. Otherwise, get a Ford or wait for the new hilux like you said

[@garageblitztv3215]

“Just take it to a shop to get tuned” … could I very humbly suggest that you might also want to mention that you would void tens of thousands of dollars worth of engine, transmission and drivetrain warranty. I suspect that the Toyota engineers should know what they are doing and you are covered, and If you want more power and torque the extra $10k for not just that, would ultimately be worth it … admittedly, the past DPF issues were a major cock-up, possibly at the hands of internal bean counters and not the actual engineers!

[@NorthOz]

I’d say you are right. My point exactly. The extra power for warranty exchange is not a good one at all and these vehicle have plenty of power despite what many people say

[@garageblitztv3215]

@@NorthOz 165kw and 550nw from 1,600 to 2,800 RPM with 90% of total total torque just off idle, should make the GR a very pleasant drive in most situations, with so much useable torque where you need it and I think that’s what they are aiming for … just a little more to hit that sweet spot. On paper at least, the GR looks more usable and less stressed than the diesel ranger V6. The Ranger needs the 10 speed auto because of its “peaky” and fleeting torque just to win bragging rights to highest figures. I totally agree that these are not “race cars” and if that’s what people want, than just buy a Supra and take it to Ray Hall in Cairns 😉 or buy a TRD Hilux or Raptor. Anyway, I certainly don’t think you make a mistake buying the updated Rogue, it looks great and should be a reliable rig for you. Looking forward to more videos - cheers 🍻

[@yeahmate94]

The tyres on the GR are all terrain

[@NorthOz]

Nice 👍

[@pogz2021]

You buy the wrong one it's conquest ahahaha the GR sports the rem is solid and it has red seatbelt and interior all is red

[@mickmcmurdo4495]

hay the new Rogue and the GR Sport are what the new Hilux v6 and the GR Sport look like the Toyota Tacoma TRD PRO

[@NorthOz]

Really? That’s cool. I hear the tacomas are a similar sized truck to the hilux

[@mickmcmurdo4495]

Hi there l think you need to do your home work the new 2023 Rogue and the 2023 GR Sport in Australia the only thing that Hilux GR Sport 2023 have over the Rogue 2023 is the motor and the front look.

[@mickmcmurdo4495]

Hi there l want you all know the new GR Sport is Rally Inspired design as well the grille the the lettering of TOYOTA is known as Heritage Grille that is on the TRD PRO models in the USA Toyota

[@mohdruslihussain7965]

GR and the Rogue are still trailing behind the Raptor and the Wildtrack.....the journey is still a long way to go......😆

[@NorthOz]

True true. But I’d trust a hilux in a trip around Australia every time 👍

[@ra_redesignautomobiles]

Imagine putting a 2JZ on that gr sport

[@NorthOz]

Bro! Could you imagine! Even the engine from the supra would’ve been awesome. That would blow the raptor out of the water!

[@ra_redesignautomobiles]

@@NorthOz i was thinking that. I was like “ why wouldnt they install at 2JZ inside of this? “ that engine has beaten alive and yet refuses to die even with speed mods, that will be hella quicker when it comes to baja, add with engine tuning and 2JZ Gr hilux will slay anything on its path :D

[@NorthOz]

@@ra_redesignautomobiles 100%!

[@obiwan2906a]

The rogue looks heaps better. The GR has too much going on. For the money I'd buy the rogue

[@NorthOz]

I agree. The gr looks like a stripped down race version which is not what I want in a tourer. Thanks for commenting and subscribing 👍

[@johnnumbat9782]

Better to hold on to your partner as you walk to the wedding altar and not glance to the dolled up lass sitting in the pews Mark - I think the lifted GR and chunky tyres looks a bit too bogan for my tastes - the Rogue is much better looking and value than a ‘sporty’ model - keep the Rogue and enjoy the marriage - a lot of folk can’t even afford an SR model.

[@NorthOz]

Couldn’t agree more! Thanks mate 👍 I love my new truck

[@hantusmostert]

check out the BRANDT BRV from South Africa.

[@NorthOz]

Will do! Thanks mate 👍

[@travis8180]

This whole vid is just your disappointment that the GR sport is better lmao

[@georgeguansing5131]

Is this Toyota's gemic to cover the costing blunder just after unveiling the Toyota Rogue?😂😂😂

[@NorthOz]

Possibly?

[@Paradoxical124]

Koenigsegg got 600hp out of a 2L 3 cylinder, Toyota could of done more.

[@NorthOz]

😂

[@chandamusonda6883]

Toyota is just trying to play catch up with the Ford. They lack anything innovative, Toyota have released 3 different variants in 3 different months and nothing is different or has changed from 2016 till now. Just minor differences here and there. In my opinion it's just the last kicks of a dying horse. I don't think it's worth the money.

[@NorthOz]

Depends if you want to stick with the brand. The new hilux coming out will be competitive once again but until then, Toyota are trying a few things to fill the void

[@robbierolly453]

Can't get 1 b4 2025

[@NorthOz]

Probably. Most waiting times are around 6-12 months depending where you are. I got a pre allocated dealer car so I waited 6 weeks

[@minko2533]

Cope harder mate. You got the wrong lux

[@NorthOz]

Haha not in my opinion. And I won’t know that until I drive it. Plus, I get mine a year early 😉

[@jujugrim8677]

Ur hilux is great, but the GR sport is better, plus they got rid of that Mexican mustache urs has.

[@NorthOz]

Haha each to their own and it’s a good thing Toyota give their customers the choice 👍