2023 Honda Passport Vs 2023 Honda Pilot - Which Is BETTER?

[@VehicleVisionary]

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[@JDM417]

Passport over the Pilot. Reasons: 1. J series engine in the Passport is bullet proof and it still has vtec. 2. No roof water leak issues on the Passport unlike the Pilot. 3. Trunk space and don't need a 3rd row.

[@katydid594]

What’s the deal with the pilot roof leaks? Haven’t heard anything about that.

[@ranmangolf]

Bought the Passport today after debating whether to buy the Pilot. Didn't need the 3rd row but wanted something more roomy than the CRV. I think we made a good pick

[@curtisgriggs2054]

How do you like it. In the market for one

[@ranmangolf]

@@curtisgriggs2054 Overall, I like it a lot. PROS: Solid feeling doors and solid construction, the seats are comfortable with lots of leg and head room in the front seat and reasonably as good in the backseat. It drives smooth for an SUV, lots of cargo space, the back seats fold down easily, great power and speed, love the aspirated 3.5 liter engine with NO turbo which wears out engines. Stayed away from hybrids which will most likely need a new battery $$$ in ten years. I got 24mpg on the hwy on a 500 mile drive over the weekend, and at long low consistent speeds got 27 mpg. Had good traction on unplowed snowy streets. CONS: There are some things I would change for Honda: Bring back the gear shifter instead of push button transmission. The technology has some good stuff but I'm concerned about long term how well all of this techno stuff will hold up in 12 years. It's on all cars now. Good towing capacity but haven't used it yet. OTHER: I found that the Tuxmats fit perfectly on the vehicle and protects the carpet better with additional coverage with great looks. Hope this helps

[@atvchicz400]

is the passport easy to fit in a tight parking lot?

[@ranmangolf]

@@atvchicz400 I would say that it is harder than parking a midsized sedan in a tight parking lot but it is not nearly as hard as parking a full sized pickup in a tight parking space. The rate of ease depends on what you are used to parking. I have no problems.

[@atvchicz400]

@ranmangolf thanks for the reply! I did have a f250 extra crew cab with 8ft bed sitting on 6" suspension lift and 37.5 tires. So I am used to really big vehicles. But ur input did help me. Thank you! I do plan on test driving the passport!

[@vikes7384]

I picked the Passport. Didn’t need the extra seat and it’s not quite as big. As for the redesign, it was all new to me so that wasn’t that much of a factor. I actually like the Passport info screen location better. It’s less visually obstructive. Both are great vehicles so either will make purchasers happy hopefully for many years. Great review!!!

[@jimc4839]

Passport fits in my garage. Has a ton of cargo space for my needs. Lots of visibility.

[@ZaadiaW]

That's my biggest question, whether the Pilot fits easily in the garage. I like both, but love the 3rd row option

[@jimc4839]

@ZaadiaW Maybe test drive one home. The passport is wide, so the beeping in and out of my garage is annoying.

[@bobbie4053]

I bought a Honda 2022 Passport Trailsport and I love it! I had leased a Honda CRV and it was too small for us. Being truck drivers, I needed more room! I pack for a semi truck. I pack clothes, food, water, drinks, blankets, sheets, pillows, boots, crockpot, coffee pot, etc…because we’re gone weeks at a time. The CRV was cramped and was filled from second row on, but the Passport, I never touched the second row. I have plenty of room in the back. The CRV would fish tail even in water but the Passport being wider base never did that to me in rain or snow. I love how the Pilot’s look but don’t need the third seat. As for fuel on the Hwy I get 28, yes 28 with regular unleaded. I even took a picture of it! City I get 23. I love my car❤❤❤. I love the way it drives. Coming from a semi to Passport it doesn’t feel like a toy car. It feels like a tank! I feel safe and secure while driving 😊

[@carynmcentee6725]

Even though the Passport hasn't been redesigned, it is still the one I'd pick

[@oneblach]

I like the interior of the Passport much better.

[@raedsamradli759]

I like the Passport much better… just got my 23 passport traded in 2019 … I test-drove both pilot and passport.. picked the latter!!

[@specialk4002]

I’ll take the Passport with the Pilot design. Hopefully in ‘24.

[@dcjohnson2490]

I've been saying this since the 2023 Pilot was released!

[@almassengale]

Give me the Odessey with this infotainment and the 360 camera!

[@chriscline4292]

Let’s just hope they keep the V6 engine.

[@edkronholm9054]

Prepare to be disappointed... no Passport upgrades to justify the cost in 2024. No engine upgrade, no 10 sp transmission, no improved Infotainment screen, no towing upgrade... meh! And really...no real guarantee that any of this will be done in the 2025 model either. Might as well bite the bullet and get the Pilot if you need a Honda SUV right away..

[@VMXGroove]

The Passport is way better. In particular, because of the the VTECH engine. More sporty. Tried and true.

[@cathyg1099]

Yeah, I don't trust that new DOHC engine.

[@ak4939]

The passport looks better to me. But I don't need the 3rd row either.

[@andyhuang7526]

Yup, I still have the Honda odyssey ! 😂😂😂my other opinion is the Toyota Tacoma 4x4 off road !

[@Midgiemoon]

Agreed! I like the 2 row set up. I have digs now that the kids are grown!

[@dadoo985]

Time to update Passport

[@dadoo985]

@@andyhuang7526 u thinking 24 Toyo Taco also?

[@andyhuang7526]

@@dadoo985 , yeah, just waiting for my sister to return the money she borrowed from me !

[@elizabethshimada7809]

I have a passport exl 22 and I love it. A few quirks I’ve encountered with and a few recalls but I love it! The cargo area is great since I don’t need a third row and the seats are so comfortable. I like the look of both and would take either. I’m getting 24.6 for the pp with mostly highway driving 😊

[@Channelofdk]

I debated and ended up with Passport. Glad I did works for me. Love the extra room in back the passport has. Only thing was a visual thing the pilot embedded logo on back tailgate I liked better.

[@epic7002]

I would go with the Pilot for its modern look

[@dalecesafsky4506]

Hate big sunroofs to break in hail, leak,cook means the interior as well as less cabin intrusion in an accident on Passport!

[@user-wi4xp9od4c]

You just saved me hours at the car lot. This was very informative. Thanks!

[@fivecrosses9040]

I like the passport dash infotainment better, being below the dash. I like the spare being protected as well.

[@mealsonmymind4460]

Just bought the passport elite in matte gray. I’m in love!

[@michaelnaglejr.7594]

I love my Passport Elite. I wish I had the digital instrument display in the Passport

[@esp9sram]

The gauge cluster in the new pilot is identical to the 10th Generation Honda Accord LOL! A new pilot is slower to 60 MPH by 1 second compared to the last generation. It is also heavier and gets 1 mi per gallon less. Me and my wife both own Hondas but I could not be more disappointed with the Direction they are going in. Hell they're even going to stop making their lawn mowers starting this September. Watch out Honda Kia and Hyundai are coming after you. Just one more thing I forgot to mention the passport sounded quieter inside to me.

[@panplayer]

Kia and Hyundai are coming for Honda?? Lolz!

[@MikeM-vz8xi]

23 Pilot EX-L, and while I would have liked some of the higher trim features, I'm extremely happy with my purchase. I don't like the design of the Passport, otherwise it seems to have a lot of great features as long as you like the way it looks.

[@timkasten7177]

Have had 2023 Honda Passport exl for about 6 months now and absolutely love it!! I pull a 18' aluminum boat around and up north and it pulls just fine... Didn't test drive the pilot but looks nice also!!

[@RondoSki6475-YT_Channel.]

And I also saw that the the Passport carries the new Ridgeline's front facia!

[@xchinadoll12]

I love the redesign model, reminds of the early 2000’s pilot

[@cassiocm]

Excellent video. Thank you! Just subscribed

[@jlev9019]

I went through all of the gear ratios between the Passport and Pilot and the differences. For slow rock crawling the Pilot is better. For towing (which what I was looking for) I think the Passport is better. More highway tow range RPM gears vs HP and torque. Even though the Pilot has a towing mode I don't think that overcomes the gear ratios. The Pilot sort of wastes two lower gears if not heavy into the off roading. I like the tach on the Pilot way better but not a reason for me not to go with the Passport. I didn't need a third row seat either.

[@VehicleVisionary]

Thank you for sharing! That is helpful information.

[@21Piloteer]

Passport, while not as long, looks a bit larger dimensionally than the Pilot.

[@sansin6250]

The Passport should be a 35k to 40k vehicle.

[@edkronholm9054]

...especially with its dated electronics... great engine, but no 10 speed transmission either...

[@LeadfootLou]

I SHOULD be a trillionaire. 😀

[@frankyancy1347]

We love our 2023 Passport Trailsport, our 2000 mile trip to National Parks in Utah was great, avged 25 mpg.

[@xsej4223]

Passport + pailot = AIRPORT

[@RondoSki6475-YT_Channel.]

I think I would call the Passport a 2-row Pilot!

[@edkronholm9054]

yeah... from 5-6 years ago...

[@xpressh51]

Great review on the Honda Passport and Pilot. Either one depending on your personal preference.

[@JM-pf5qc]

Thank you for your detailed video. God Bless

[@mrutube5880]

Just took delivery of the pilot black edition...

[@edkronholm9054]

And? ...first impressions?

[@michelb.8953]

I'd pick the Passport for my needs. Like it better for many reasons.

[@dcholcomb1239]

Just purchased '23 Passport. Love it, except .... has anyone else had an issue with the wireless charger for your iPhone? Dealer said (after the purchase) that it was a known issue and wasn't sure Honda could do anything about it? Surely, I'm not the only Honda / Apple consumer, or is this a rare combination. Thanks for any help, or any suggestions for connectivity (I have attempted three different phones, with and without case, orientated in various ways, but keeps turning on for 2-5 seconds then failing). Thanks.

[@21Piloteer]

We have a 23 Elite. Don't care for the wireless charger either...same issues with Android phones. We just use a cord, no muss no fuss.

[@brianmorrison6637]

The wireless charger is super slow

[@BackDoor_Adventurer]

Had the 2023 passport as a loaner while my Pilot Trailsport needed some dealer TLC. Yes i notice that charging pad not only has awkward position, it also doesn’t always work and when it does charge. Its awful slow.

[@bxp1696]

I feel Honda needs to make seats more supportive, longer seats or an extension, and improve the acceleration, and please bring the shifter back.

[@Ecuador006]

Id go with Acura Mdx

[@ryanb8736]

Exactly.

[@mackone249]

The 2023 Pilot exhaust tip are fake. Exhaust mufflers are downward facing...😮

[@V3N8MOUS]

Nice video but you forgot to mention that the 23 Pilot has a timing belt which needs to be replaced after a few years whereas the Passport has a timing chain and doesn't need it. That'll factor in when you have to pay more out of your pocket to replace the timing belt at a dealer.

[@FullTwisting]

This is not correct. The Passport has a timing belt. The owners manual manual on page 564 indicates replacement may be required at 60,000 miles when used frequently in temperature extremes.

[@fredmoss4540]

That's totally not true. The Pilot, Ridgeline, Passport all have timing belts. Unless you do alot of driving or towing it's not 2yrs. It's 100,000 miles normally. I have timing Belt in my 2000 Acura 3.2 TL. We have timing Belt in 2007 Honda Ridgeline. It's been replaced at 222,000 miles.

[@jeaninevarndell5832]

The J35 V6 uses a timing belt not a chain

[@kesha1402]

@@fredmoss4540how do you know when need’s changing? Before it breaks

[@fredmoss4540]

@kesha1402 Recommend Mileage Interval. All Honda vehicles use to run on Timing Belts. My 1980 Honda Prelude that I purchased new 1980. I owned it 15yrs. I had Belt water pump replaced. They were 60,000 mile interval then. My 1990 and 1994 Honda Accords had Timing Belts never got to Mileage interval on 1990 before trading in. The 1994 I was just at 60,000 mile interval before trading in for 2000 Acura 3.2TL I still own this vehicle at 24yrs next 106,000 next week. The Belt was replaced at 11yrs old by time. They changed Mileage interval to 100,000 miles. This is unless you tow or drive in extreme temperatures. I had it changed once because low mileage and car set for 2 yrs then 1yr in lifetime. It's up and running again. We have 2007 Honda Ridgeline Pickup Truck. Timing Belt replace several times by dealership and independent. Ridgeline 17yrs and over 227,000 miles. Most all Honda/Acura vehicles use to have Timing Belts. Pilot, Odyssey minivan. Passport SUV. Acura MDX standard model. Not sure about Type S. Just a tried and true engine design. Timing Chains can have problems as well.

[@floydgungl916]

Tom, you didn't use your turn signal when you.merged by that semi! Lol, it's all good, cause you male the best in depth car reviews, and you always show the finer points of each one.... SERIOUSLY, thanks much!

[@user-ud2wl7fo9c]

I'll take the passport cause it's a 2 suv row

[@dr.baotran8448]

Thank you, for the comparison. Both vehicles are nice but I think the Pilot is a winner...

[@VehicleVisionary]

You're welcome! Thank you for taking the time to watch.

[@andyhuang7526]

All 2024 models are supposed to be on the market in October?????

[@BethSJ]

The passport reminds me of the first gen pilot front end

[@user-bq2sw9zh8g]

I have the passport and love it. I can't find the switch for the steering wheel

[@fentsch]

I’ve had two Honda CRV EX-L both brand new 2005 & 2015 looking for a bigger suv 6 cylinder,I do not like turbo or hybrid vehicles the problem is Honda still hasn’t come out with the 2024 Passport edition hopefully the same engine upgrades has the 2023-2024 Pilot . Come on Honda it’s October 9th what are you waiting for .

[@LeadfootLou]

You’ll have to wait longer. They may never upgrade the engine on the passport to justify the extra $5,400 that you pay for the Pilot.

[@thebutterman2232]

An employee told me 2024 is the last year for the passport. That it was getting replaced by the fully electric prologue coming in 2024/2025 (edit: I incorrectly put 2023 but meant 2024 lol)

[@meynp4337]

We picked the 2024 Passport Black edition, just last week.

[@VehicleVisionary]

You might want to tell that employee to come watch some of my videos on the 2024 Passport. 😂

[@johndelson6015]

Pilot all the way.... Passport is nice tho.

[@brucetyler8846]

The rectangle exhaust would’ve looked better on the passport

[@LeadfootLou]

Don’t have any kids so I’d go with the passport although you did kind of discourage me when it comes to the engine on the passport

[@ryanb8736]

Why? The Vtec is the better engine. They dropped it due to emissions regulations. Be happy you still have Vtec.

[@sybilbaran5755]

Wish you had mentioned model of Passport whether it is Le etc.

[@allenschneider1847]

Are the two cars the same overall length?

[@georgevillanueva7696]

I’m going with the PILOT 😊 GREAT VIDEO THANKS 😊

[@VehicleVisionary]

You're welcome!

[@ld4974]

Has Honda fixed the idle-stop issues noted in the class action lawsuits?

[@bosoxbeliever04]

So competitively speaking, can someone provide data for this: The difference in cargo space between the Passport with the back seats upright vs the Pilot with the third row folded down, but second row still upright? Wife and I have a Passport Elite and run out of room to store baseball gear in the back. Curious is the Pilot with third row folded down would provide more.

[@joes3689]

Better late than never. The measurements I found show: The Passport has 41.2 cu ft, and the Pilot with the 3rd row down has 48.5 cu ft. hope that helps.

[@ryanb8736]

Lots of roofs leaking in new Pilots lately.

[@larryjohns8823]

Well they wanted a bigger hole in the roof! You didn't expect it to leak did you😅

[@chriswilliams1024]

Both suv's look good

[@kirstenveneziano1205]

I just purchased a used 2020 Passport, so I'm stuck with the older design. I like the redesigned dash features of the 2023 Pilot. I've owned Toyota Camrys for the last 30 years and find their dash features sleeker than the 2020 Passport. I bought the passport for towing a teardrop trailer and really like the two-row configuration because of the dedicated cargo space. I don't want or need a third row. Toyota doesn't make a two-row vehicle that I was satisfied with, so I started looking at the Hondas. The one thing I'm not happy with on my Passport is my ability to reach the foot pedal. I prefer to sit higher in the vehicle so I can see over the front end, but when I do that, I can't comfortably reach the foot pedal, so I have to lower the seat. I'm 5'4", so not unreasonably short for a woman. Considering how many women drive these vehicles, you'd think they would have a better way of dealing with height differences. Otherwise, I find the car to be comfortable, a little less quiet than the 2020 Pilot I test drove, and not quite as quick on acceleration, just like your video comparison, so not much has changed in three years. I have the Elite model, and my husband considers it a little stubby in appearance, although I don't mind the appearance; I really like the black 20-inch rims. I hope I find the same reliability with the vehicle I'm used to experiencing with my Toyotas. I'll go on my first tow in a few weeks and hope to have a good experience.

[@chardmb]

The Pilot is better in almost every category.

[@tinhinnh]

pilot would look better without body-colored c-pillar

[@cowscanclimbtoo]

Until Honda gets around to making hybrids default across their entire SUV/cross over line up consumers are naturally going to gravitate towards the Rav4/Highlander/Grand Highlander. I recently decided to pass the Crv hybrid because of lower spec numbers after having been a loyal honda owner for over 15 years

[@sjhanksaz]

2WD only tow 3500 lbs right?

[@edkronholm9054]

yes

[@seinundzeiten]

the Pilot is the best...the new V6 engine is the best...the naturally aspirated engine is superior than any type of turbo-charged -hybrid engines-you know those coming out from Toyota

[@hp-fx9pv]

Passport sales suck and value dropped like crazy after a couple of years! Can’t understand why Honda hasn’t updated the Passport yet, it would totally increase sales. If you want a bargain, get it now and make sure you want it for many years, because when 2026 Passport finally comes out, the value of the ones prior will be horrible…like some KIAs.

[@dalecesafsky4506]

Pilot too big and I’d leave sunroof out if I could.

[@21Piloteer]

You can on the LX trim. Sport trim too I think.

[@fredmoss4540]

Drive a Ridgeline it's longer.

[@almassengale]

Also the EXL.

[@dressedtochill]

Just give us the pilot with two rows, chop the back and stick a spare tire like back in the day and call it a day. Whats the years of wait for, did you have that many spare OG pilot engines lying around to repurpose?

[@johnnyowens5276]

Should've showed the same color.....

[@meynp4337]

The pilot drives like a truck. My wife feels she can handle the Passport much easier, so we picked the 2024 Passport Black edition, just last week.

[@charleshamilton9274]

How timely. I just bought a new Passport Elite. It had some serious design flaws; e.g., that ludicrous push button gear selector and the teeny-tiny sunroof. The Pilot was just too damn big. I really wanted HUD and a panoramic sunroof offered on the Pilot but I didn’t want or need a vestigial third row seat. And both the Passport and the Pilot should come with a standard full size spare tire. I know every time I get in the Passport and use that godawful gear selector, I will have to add a dollar to the swear jar…

[@larryjohns8823]

What's the bad with the button shifter? My guess is you have to look to shift. You comment are welcome as I am shopping and have not looked at the Passport yet.

[@21Piloteer]

Why did you buy it? lol

[@LuisGomez-tz6vq]

Yeah ijust got my passport ..and yes I'm having problems with the wireless charger..

[@charleshamilton9274]

@@21Piloteer - Mainly because it wasn’t a Chevy. LOL.

[@charleshamilton9274]

@@larryjohns8823 I liked it despite its design challenges/deficits. My local Honda dealer (Schomp) has a great reputation and the Passport is rated very reliable by the automobile press. I also like that there were at least 15 Honda dealerships here in Colorado, ensuring relatively easy access on road trips should I need service. 🤷‍♂️

[@innerpeacesocal7100]

Why does the passport look so old and outdated in the inside?

[@stevendphoto]

Poorly planned comparison... should have WAITED until you can compare both models in WHITE! NO NEED TO BLAME AVAILABILITY!! ALSO: Why in the world would you film a dark vehicle at sunset?????? AGAIN: Why not wait and film during the day???

[@stevendphoto]

@@eloquent-nuance Well perhaps you have much lowers standards, and that's fine with me..

[@stevelou3476]

Poor mpg no one cares?

[@cyfielding2620]

I care. So I probably won't do either.

[@islandknight6105]

They use regular gas so that has to be considered.

[@Bestoftherest222]

Both look far to alike.